Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Midchuck
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:40 PM

I like Alice's idea, also bigchuck's. 'Tho the place bc is thinking of wouldn't be big enough unless a lot of people brought tents.

By the way, there is good beer in the US. Lots of it. It's just mainly made by small breweries, that don't advertise nationally the way the big dishwater operations do.

Peter. (who saw people in the UK drinking Budweiser! For Gawd's sake, why?)

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:43 PM

I have just read my last post here, in this thread.I think the keys on my keyboarf are too close together!

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:45 PM

Jonh, I thnki that shlkdu hve read 'Kybard'.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: bill\sables
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:50 PM

You must excuse John in Hull It is late and he is probably pissed.
Bill

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:50 PM

this is goinf off topic, who is going to Ameeica?

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:56 PM

Bill is righjt, I been drinking beer.john

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 07:57 PM

I'd like to point out that I am at least as pissed as john, and my typing is prefect. And you're right, I'd love to go to the colonies *ahem* the former colonies, but unfortunately have little to offer in the way of practical or considered opinion, for a change. But FWIW, count me in.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: WyoWoman
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 08:07 PM

I vote Yes, and I vote East Coast, U.S. of A. I can figure out a way to get meself up there, for sure. Although Alice's idea of Montana would certainly provide an experience even only a few Americans have had. But much as I love that region, New England would be easier to reach and probably has a higher concentration of Mudcateers, yes?

Maybe by then I'll actually be able to play the guitar at the SAME TIME I sing, and in FRONT of PEOPLE!!! Whoo-hoo!

We can start making little 'possum doodads now to sell as concessions, along with the usual kissing booths and foot-rub booths and Oh-my-what-are-you-going-to-do-with-THAT booths.

ww

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: brid widder
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 08:08 PM

possibly...hopefully....maybe even probably...any chance of a lift John?

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 08:16 PM

I''m too pissed to drive, sorry!

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: alanww
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 05:35 AM

I can vouch for the fact that there are some great little homebrew pubs in New England, which serve English-type ale. And the fall is rather spectacular! I seem to recall a wonderfully-tasting porter in a little pub somewhere in Vermont (once it had been allowed to warm up a bit!). I was there on a morris tour with the Chameleonic Morris Men in 1999 and the local morris sides (and folkies generally) were very hospitable. We had a great time and were there for 10 days - you would need to plan for at least a week I think.

Ale, ale glorious ale, served up in pewter it tells its own tale!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Mooh
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 06:24 AM

My choices would be Cape Breton or Newfoundland, not too large an unban centre (if at all), I'd actually like to travel though southern Ontario would be oh so convenient.

This is a great idea!

Mooh.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 06:33 AM

I'd prefer somewhere along the East coast... I like the East coast areas some real nice places - loads to see... Florida....erm... YUK!

Sorry that's a personal yuk, not meant to be contraversial, but that's what I think...

East coast is fairly reasonable (flight prices) to get to too.

E

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Tone d' F
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 07:10 AM

I'm game and will proberably bring ferret and Jon A just make it somewhere hot.

Lousiville KY the United Parcel Service's International hub sounds warm do we travel with or in the parcels

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Fortunato
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 11:13 AM

Camp Ramblewood in Darlington, MD. Click here

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Llanfair
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 11:27 AM

I don't care where we go in the US, as long as we go and meet lots and lots of our American friends.
Cheers, Bron.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Troll
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 11:39 AM

Take it from the troll,folks, you DON'T want to be in Florida in the summer.
Trust me on this one, OK?

troll

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: DougR
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 12:58 PM

How about we all move in on Kendall in Maine? :>)

DougR

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Amergin
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 01:20 PM

Sounds like a grand idea, Doug...and maybe if we are lucky we get to meet lots of the colourful folk up there...like this one guy (I wonder if Kendall knows him) by the name of Gordon Bok....anyone ever hear of him?

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Alice
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 02:46 PM

Maine sounds good. Kendall, are you ready to be invaded?

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Noreen
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 03:36 PM

You've got time to build that extension as you always intended, Kendall...

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 05:52 PM

We Ducks don't do hot so Vermont sounds great but much as I love Mickey Mouse I could not cope with Florida (went at Easter once and that was bad enough!)

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Diva
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 06:00 PM

I don't do hot either......so I'm with the Ducks

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Snuffy
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 07:33 PM

Couldn't we take over something like Mystic Seaport for a week in the early spring?

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 09:57 PM

Camp Ramblewood is the closest thing to West Chester, PA, home of Max and the Mudcat server. Near Philadelphia. Also close to Washington, DC, which is probably the biggest conglomeration of Mudcatters. Third weekend in October! Fall colors are incredible then. (You'll invade the FSGW Getaway.) It'll cost somewhere between $130 and $150 per person for the weekend, including all meals and a bed in a group cabin. (Your travel expenses are extra, but nearby Baltimore has cheap flights to many places.) Camp's overnight capacity is almost 500, and with daytrippers, the numbers can go into the thousands. (They're planning a BIG folk festival there next May.)

You can practice by coming next year and the year after, if you can afford it, or save up your travel dough for 2006.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: MMario
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 10:03 PM

and it would be worth every penny!

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 10:22 PM

Getaway sounds good Charlie, how much is $150 in proper money?

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 10:32 PM

Not sure what you consider proper money.

150 USDollars = 168.316 Euros = 105.260 UKpounds

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 10:37 PM

Thanks Charlie, UK pounds are proper money, Britain has decided not to use Euros!

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 10:38 PM

Nope.........If we can pull this off at all, it'd be a Catter function. Let's sat we pull 150 Catters......The actual FSGW schedule and all will be boogered up beyond recognition. Besides, a lot of folks are going to be getting together in everchanging "packs" and I can see some unfortunate situations developing.

Then again, I'm probably wrong. Skip it.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 08:10 AM

Agrees with Troll...

Florida - summer...

PHEW! 100+ in the shade!!! nuh uh!

Not for me. Done that, wilted for over two weeks. Double nuh huh!

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: MMario
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 09:05 AM

'spaw - a lot of FSGW folks are closet catters anyway - it would work.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: pattyClink
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 09:10 AM

I'm with Deda (Maine or Nova Scotia or PEI)or bigchuck (Adirondacks).

Wild horses singing folk songs could not get me to Orlando!

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From:
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 10:52 AM

I vote for East Coast US..Philly sounds great..the main thing is to be near airports that have good flights...getting to Canada can be pretty expensive...if it was a bit more toward Boston, people who wanted to go on to Newfoundland or Maine could find flights, ferries, etc...well, from Portland to Nova Scotia there is a ferry. And having something easy to get to from an airport is also important.....flying from Germany say and then havingt to rent a car and drive a few hours might not be fun with jet lag. mg

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 12:03 PM

Midchuck said:

Peter. (who saw people in the UK drinking Budweiser! For Gawd's sake, why?)

Because they don't like BEER, that's why!

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 01:23 PM

What time of year,? Easter is about the only chance I would get, unless it goes on in one of the half terms, but then it becomes a midweek meeting. Last week in August is reasonably sound.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 02:52 PM

Bratling wants to come, so do I!

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 03:01 PM

Troll is correct - Florida is HOT in the summer. I like the Philly idea. Anywhere up there in October would be a riot! And the Fall colors are incredible as I recall.

I think this would be a good idea.

Steve

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: SharonA
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 05:25 PM

Eric: If it's to be in the Philly area, it probably shouldn't be the last weekend in August, since that is the weekend of the Philadelphia Folk Festival. The local folkies will be flocking to that as well as putting up their friends from out of town, and the non-local folkies will be either camping out at the Fest or clogging up the local motels, so it might be hard to find a place to stay in the area that weekend.

Actually, I'd vote for September in the Philly area: the weather is less likely to be terribly chilly, and the local folk scene is "between" the summer festival season and the regular autumn-spring concert season. June's nice, too.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Burke
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 06:01 PM

I like the Adirondack idea myself, but it should probably be closer to a transportation center. Think that would mean Boston, NYC, Philly, or DC. Berkshires? Catskills? Poconos?

How many people are teachers or students who would need a June-Aug. date rather than something earlier or later?

Here's a 2006 Calendar.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Allan C.
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 09:02 AM

It seems to me that if there were folks coming across the pond (expecially for the first time) to the U.S., they would want to have access to other nearby attractions in order to do the tourist thing when not at the gathering. Reasonable proximity to an international airport could be an important factor as well. As much as I would want to see such a gathering happen in the western part of the States, (knowing that there are 'Catters out there who are quite nearly as geographically separated from eastern U.S. folk events as the 'Catters in the U.K.,) I think that Ramblewood seems to fill the bill. It has lots of sleeping space, seems to tolerate tent-campers as well, has a huge central meeting area, large-enough dining facilities and plenty of "break-out" areas for workshops, etc.. Besides, the grounds are really quite pretty.

Another consideration is that if we were expecting any sort of commercial support from music-oriented companies, they would be more likely to support something that is located not too far off the beaten track. The Getaway has so far been a rather un-commercialized event; but something like what we are considering might need to have more involvement along those lines to help subsidize costs.

Autumn is generally the best time for any such gathering because the temperatures are usually more tolerable and rain is less of a possibility (I think) than it is in spring. Besides, as has been pointed out, the whole area is really quite beautiful at that time of year.

If we planned to hold the international gathering just before the annual Getaway, some of the visitors might possibly be able to stay over for that (unless, of course, the two events were somehow combined [hint, hint]).

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Cllr
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 10:24 AM

What if some high-up European politoco mudcatter develops fascistic, imperialist tendencies?

What are you insinuating? and what do you mean If?

Cllr

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 10:58 AM

touché, my honourable friend... are you volunteering for this excellent plan of mine then??

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 11:56 AM

I'm still stuck to school holidays whatever the time. The main summer break-I'd never get leave of absence from the Mrs and kids- gettting to the states will be a hard enough job-they all want to go!(Also can't get time off school!) I'm not one for tourist things unless it's Civil war sites. Looks like I'll never get there.

Unless I'm not working then, having won the lotto!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: DeanC
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:14 PM

If you want to seriously consider this idea then you need to think about the following. You will have to reserve someplace by putting up some money and guaranteeing some amount. It's not clear to me that Mudcat can do that on its own. For that reason you may wish to more seriously consider the FSGW Getaway at Camp Ramblewood as the vehicle for this gathering. FSGW already fronts and guarantees the cash. They also provide insurance, a sound system, and lots of logistical support for the event. I don't think FSGW would mind at all.

Camp Ramblewood is with a couple of hours of Washington, Baltimore, and Philadelphia (only about an hour from West Chester, PA, the home of Mudcat) and 3 to 4 hours from New York. That gives people plenty of flight options with reasonable drives to the camp. The only real downside I can see to using the Getaway is that it is during the school year, and those of us that have kids might find it a little more difficult to deal with that. There is plenty of room for kids, and they have as good a time as the adults according to my son.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: annamill
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:16 PM

I wonder where I'll be and what I'll be doing 6 years from now?? I hope to be in La Jolla, Cali way before then...

Well, where ever I am, I'll be there. I think Ramblewood is a great idea and we should set up a Getaway 2006 fund to help our friends who wouldn't be able to get there otherwise, get there. If we start now, we could have a pretty penny by then.

We would need a collector, and an investor to increase any monies collected. A pro if possible. Of course we could just throw it in the bank and get 2% or 3%.

Many more could be there.

I would like to have the gathering separate from our FSGW meeting though. I would like to see it all Mudcatters.

Great idea that has been thrown around for about two years now. Let's do it!

Love, Annamill

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:21 PM

Well Dean, as I just posted on the other thread about interaction problems, I don't think it's worth the risk to the relationship.

The two events might work out within some time proximity of each other or not. But judging from the responses on the other thread.......I still think it's no a good idea.

Sorry Allan.......But then again, my track record for attendance at these things is pretty gawdawful so maybe I need to keep my mouth shut........too late for that...

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST,Noreen
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:01 PM

annamill, I wonder where I'll be and what I'll be doing 6 years from now??

thinking back with happy memories of the previous year's Mudcat World Gathering, I hope! *grin*

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: annamill
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:11 PM

Tee Hee! Me too, as well as floating in a cool ocean in February enjoying the heat from a warm sun. California dreamin'.

L.A.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST,Noreen
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:36 PM

*sigh* Maybe we'll all come to you then?