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BS: A house! A house!

Rapparee 11 Oct 03 - 12:50 PM
Tinker 11 Oct 03 - 01:28 PM
annamill 11 Oct 03 - 01:31 PM
GUEST,pdq 11 Oct 03 - 02:44 PM
Stilly River Sage 11 Oct 03 - 06:25 PM
Rapparee 11 Oct 03 - 09:19 PM
GUEST,Rapaire's Secret Santa 11 Oct 03 - 09:34 PM
Stilly River Sage 11 Oct 03 - 10:11 PM
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Deckman 11 Oct 03 - 10:34 PM
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Amergin 12 Oct 03 - 01:11 AM
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Stilly River Sage 12 Oct 03 - 11:05 AM
Rapparee 12 Oct 03 - 12:46 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 12:50 PM

Mine'll say a lot about me, all right!

"Looky here! Those paperbacks are so old that they're all tatty. Slob!" "The 'Psychopathia Sexualis' -- well, we know what sort of person HE is!" "And here -- both 'The Fifth Gospel' AND 'The Acts of Jesus' right there next to 'Lamb'! Blasphemy AND heresy! Let's burn 'im!" "Wait, wait -- he's got 'Get Tough!' and 'Instinct Shooting'. Let's think this over a bit." "Nah, he's also got the Bible, the Book of Mormon, 'Doctrines and Covenants', the Bagadha Gita, Lao Tzu, and other sorts of books -- and here! Copies of the 'Anarchist's Cookbook' and the Constitution and Karl Marx and the Declaration of Independence and the 'Federalist Papers' and the writings of Thomas Jefferson! Git the rope boys, we got ourselves a Commie Atheist Anarchist Pervert!"

And this is before the music books chime in (pun intended).


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Tinker
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 01:28 PM

I am so jealous of the new shelving!!!! All of the above would easiy find a comfortable home with like minded bindings somewhere around here, but my husband is not a libriarian. He works on Wall Street so we add the business management, economics, oh and 15 or so translations of the Art of War...

This old Victorian with nooks and cranies doesnot lend itself to long stretches of shelving, but we are definately working on it... Good luck.

Kathy


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: annamill
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 01:31 PM

Rapaire, a house like that in New Jersey would cost half a million. I think it would cost that much in San Diego too, wouldn't it Amos?

Nice job, Rapaire. Best of luck and much happiness.

Annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 02:44 PM

In coastal California cities, the house would cost about $85 per square foot.: 4400 sq. ft. (add says this, not 4200) X $85= $370,000 for structure; Add $240,000 for a lot (that is 1/4 acre in the burbs) and you get $614,000. That does not get you a view of a golf course or landscaping.


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 06:25 PM

I have a friend who built some wonderful shallow bookshelves calculated to just fit paperback novels. And frank as she is about reading, she put them where they needed to be, in the bathroom. :) The shelf is where they won't get wet, and it isn't like they're read cover to cover in there, but it was a good use of blank wall space!

I agree with some of the calculations above. Even here in Fort Worth where we have some of the lowest housing prices in the nation, I predict that you still couldn't get that much house and that location unless you put down a $100,000 more than you're paying there.

SRS

(The ads are coming up for golf vacations in Ireland now--interesting!)


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 09:19 PM

I just got back from a 5 and half hour long home inspection. I'm exhausted.

Basically, the place is in pretty good shape. The roof is at the end of life (EOL) and so is the water heater. There are some settlement cracks to be taken care of, and there is evidence of old termite infestations without treatment (none active were seen). The gas furnace needs to be serviced, the chimneys swept, and GFCIs installed outside and in all areas near water. The kitchen stove exhaust fan only goes into the attic, as do the bathroom exhaust fans (this was okay when the place was built, but not now). A couple of toilets are loose and may be leaking, and the master bathroom shower needs to be recaulked and regrouted. Some flashing has come off and birds have gotten into the attic.

Radon monitoring is going on now and will finish on Monday. Nothing like buying a house and finding that glowing in the dark makes lightbulbs unnecessary.

In short, nothing money won't fix.... And some of it needn't be done now; even more is "monitor and take action if warranted."

I AM going to have the stump of a satellite antenna and its attendant wiring removed for the backyard -- or I may just modify it and turn it into a vertically oriented spud gun.

Sorry gang, the hot tub was removed a long time ago, the pool table's gone, and they're taking the gun safe.

I forgot to mention the books on business, computers, humor, literature, poetry, quilting, pottery, quilting, novels, quilting, domestic architecture of the US, military history, feminism, philosophy, libraries, and did I mention quilting? I'm looking forward to seeing some of my books again -- some have been boxed for three years. It'll be like renewing old friendships.


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: GUEST,Rapaire's Secret Santa
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 09:34 PM

A party? At Rapaire's house in I-dee-ho-ho-ho? Whoopee, let's all go!

Happy House-HO-HO-HO!


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 10:11 PM

I think a party is called for as soon as he's in the place! One of those virtual ones, where we can dig up the yard as we bring in the equipment and it won't show the morning after.

The electrical work can be expensive, though if it is just changing out the ground fault breakers that's not too bad. I have to deal with some ventillation problems in my house also (better vents from the bathrooms so the ceiling doesn't fall in from condensation). And my kitchen fan is supposed to vent outside, but the pipe is a tad short. I have a collar thing to put on it (now that the attic is cooler again) that should solve any vent problems there.

I'm crossing my fingers that I can keep the squirrels out this year. And you be careful in an attic that has had birds. Histoplasmosis is a real health hazard around dried bird and bat guano if there is any to speak of.

Too bad about the hot tub. You could mull a lot of cider (and several Mudcatters) in there on a cold winter night (the night of the party, of course!).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 10:15 PM

Well danged, Rapster! Two kitchens? Man, that's gonna be hard to top but me the the Wes Ginny slide rule is gonna get workin' on it.... We think we can squeeze three into my 2600 ft. house if I can learn to sleep stanndin' up and If I send the P-Vine to the YWCA... But to have three kitchens??? Well, that's a no brainer since you got two...

Awww, jus messin' wid ya'...

Congrates...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Deckman
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 10:34 PM

Hey ... Rapaire! I know that you are thrilled with your new house ... and all. but I guess that someone has to break the BAD NEWS to you. You've just signed 11 teen million papers, right? On the lower right edge of page 1,333, did you notice the FINE PRINT? You have now given permission for ALL of the telemarketers in ninteen countrys to call you, 24 hours a day, for the next next 17 years! Welcome Home! Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 11:05 PM

Yep, except Deckman missed some of the smaller print. Actually, you have signed off on telemarketers to harrass you for up to 50 years after yer, ahhhh, death. Sorry... Brings new meaning to "Rest in Peace"...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Melani
Date: 11 Oct 03 - 11:51 PM

Congratulations on your new abode! The painful part, of course, is that here in the SF Bay Area, the price you paid for your red-carpeted palace might get you a roofless doghouse in a bad neighborhood. Oh well. Enjoy being a homeowner!


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Amergin
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 01:11 AM

so...when can we move in?


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 02:15 AM

Wow, you couldn't buy the land here for that price. Good for you!


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 11:05 AM

Here are a few handy sites to get you started thinking about the work and furnishings in the new house:

http://www.ikea-usa.com/ (Ikea)

http://forum.doityourself.com/forumdisplay.php?s=3c452f0189733b9afd52b08b4423c033&forumid=92 (DIY)

http://www.hometime.com/

http://www.homephonewiring.com/

http://www.dirtdoctor.com

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 12:46 PM

My mama didn't raise no stupid kids -- I'm gonna let the professionals do the hard stuff like 'lektrisity an' plummin' an' re-roofin'. They got the tools an' ekspurteez an' I don't. (Besides, I'm kinda tired of running up and down ladders, hurting myself, doing the job over and over 'til I get it sorta right, and cussin' a blue streak all the while. I can think of lots of other things to do that don't involve the "heavy lifting".)

We'll probably get the flashing and bird intrusion fixed right away and leave the re-roofing until Spring. It's a cedar shake roof, and I'm thinking of replacing it with a metal rook in shake pattern. Then I'll probably be dead or elsewhere before I have to think about it again.

The termite treatment will be done right away tool.

I want to replace the current electric cooktop with a gas one -- better heat control during cooking. (The second kitchen can stay as it is -- it works, it's all electric, and I probably won't ever use it.)

I'm also thinking of replacing the 40 gallon water heater with a tankless unit -- a bit more expensive, but tankless units come in both gas and electric and have a LOT going for them. Any suggestions or experience in this area would be welcome.

I'll also get the chimneys and flues swept and inspected.

Toilets and plumbing repairs are on the top burner too. The inspector recommended pulling the carpeting off the deck so that the wood can dry out and water doesn't accumulate under the carpet. Deckman, the wood is moisture stained, but seems solid (they used to have a hot tub); the railing is only 30 inches instead of the now-required 36 high.

Bobert, the "wet bar" area is really a kitchen but without a stove. It's got a double sink, cabinets, and a place for a fridge, so the house really has 2.75 kitchens. The area looks like a small kitchen, not like any wet bar I ever saw.

Behind this wet bar is the store room.

A word about LDS beliefs as I understand them (and I'm not Mormon).

You are to keep a year's supply of food and water (or better yet, more) stored for your family in anticipation of The Coming. Thus, many houses in this area have "Mormon Storerooms." The second kitchen is so that you can take in another LDS family if they fall onto hard times, helping your fellows out in their times of trouble. *NOTE: If I'm wrong here I'd appreciate having any LDS or jack-Mormon 'Catter correct me -- my books are stored and I'm going on memory and hearsay.*

I think that I'm going to turn the storeroom into a workshop. There's a nice pantry in the kitchen, and I agree with Mark 14:32 anyway. (See? I've even read the Bible! Also a bunch of other books, good and bad.)


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 01:07 PM

I still haven't finished unpacking and I moved in last Thanksgiving. But I do love having my own house.

Enjoy it, Rapaire. And don't be a fool. Invite them all over for a party - just don't mention that it is a Work Party. Feed 'em pizza and beer and let them get the work done. Maybe even the moving if it you play it right.
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Amos
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 01:08 PM

Rap:

Just FYI you can add an on-demand tankless heater without removing the existing HW tank.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 04:35 PM

Am engineer friend of mine has sung the praises a particular hot water tank that is gas and solar. I will ask him the name and specs. At one point I almost moved to NM where I would have had propane and planned to put in such a tank. In my Fort Worth home I don't have gas, so am using standard electric.

If you can afford the initial outlay, the gas/solar tank is very inexpensive to run, I think it works out awfully close to free.

Roofs are one of those things that scare a lot of new homeowners, and consequently it's an area where "investors" can make a big (fake) point when they sell houses. Have you seen the ads "we buy houses" and for ugly houses, etc? There is an exchange where the house is bought way below market, a few cosmetic changes are made, and then they try to sell it for full value. I kept stumbling onto those jokers when I was house hunting. The trick to identify their handiwork was to find a way to view the attic (and they will make it inaccessible if they can). If you look from outside and see composition shingles and from inside see the old shakes, you know they slapped a cheap roof on top of the shakes without properly removing the shakes, putting up planking and felt and such and then applying the shingles. It sounds like you have a pretty good idea of how to approach this with a very durable shingle (I've seen some of those around here--they really are solid).

I really enjoyed looking at houses and how they were built when I was house-hunting. You learn a great deal about how to actually care for the one you ultimately buy. My realtor was new, a school teacher changing careers so she could spend more time with her small children. We enjoyed our outings and we had a bit of a role-reversal during the search. She knew how to fill out the forms, but I taught her about some of the internet searches and a lot of the architectural things to look for. I made sure I had her act as a buyers agent. You get a lot more information that way.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Deckman
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 06:07 PM

Rapaire: about the deck railings being 30" high. Two thoughts ... It's a little unusual for the house sale to go through without these being brought "up" to code (all puns intended). However, you could have signed a waiver on this. In reality, I wouldn't worry about it UNLESS you have little children that might want to start climbing on them. If that's the case, PM me and I'll give you some ideas.

About the carpeting on the deck: This is usually a serious concern. Most people put carpeting on an outside deck to hide uglyness or rot. Either way, they usually CAUSE rot to happen soon, as the carpeting traps the moisture on (in) the wood. If you can stab a screwdriver INTO the wood at all, you've probably got a problem. Again, feel free to PM me for advice.

Congrads on your new home. Exciting, isn't it! Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 06:37 PM

"Feed 'em pizza and beer and let them get the work done."

Ah, Sins, the problem is that my wife and I can't just let folks eat frozen pizza and swill Budweiser. Nope. Not in a place where I can get things like semi-ready pizza (Poppa Murphy's) or something like Annies (local -- how about dried tomato, fresh basil, roasted garlic, roasted sweet peppers and chicken sound?). As for beer -- I was past the beer coolers today: Fat Tire. Alaska Amber. Wasatch. Provo Girl. Polygamy Porter. Black Butte. Fire House 7. Sierra. Wienhardt. Others too numerous to mention.

You see, what I haven't mentioned and am in fact just starting to realize is that here we can get the BEST of Seattle, Portland, Denver, California, Mexico, Canada. For instance, you want coffee? -- just name your poison! Kenya AA, Blue Mountain, pure Kona, Folgers....

Hell, at the store today (Fred Meyer's, and Krogers hasn't completely ruined it yet) I bought some linguisa. This doesn't mean much if you're from Fall River, Mass. or the Cape Verde Islands or Portugal. But -- and understand this! -- I'm in Pocatello, Idaho, a town of about 50,000 people, and I was able to purchase packages of a sausage most folks have never heard of! The beers listed above are just a bare scratching of the surface. Yeah, I haven't yet found Creative Grains' Toasted Pecan Grains, but there's fresh hummus in the stores.

But heck, if anyone wants to come by AFTER we have moved into the house -- well, bring your instrument(s). I'll buy Budweiser just for you, but you'll have to give me notice so I can buy it (and clean up the place a little).


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: GUEST,Rapaire's Secret Santa
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 06:55 PM

I'll have to come before the middle of November because things get a little busy here at the North Pole late in the year. I like my pizza with EVERYTHING on it!


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 07:08 PM

Okay, SS, you asked for it. How about a nice sausage, onions, ham, motor oil, triple cheese (provolone, parmesan and limburger), black olives, pigs' knuckles, basil, oregano, drisheens, garlic, anchovies, lead sugar, chorizo, tripe, and pineapple deep-dish pizza? In a nice tomato/jimson weed sauce?

All washed down with Moose Drool????


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: GUEST,Rapaire's Secret Santa
Date: 13 Oct 03 - 03:58 AM

Sounds delicious. But please leave off the black olives. And do they have salsa in I-dee-ho-ho-ho? Also some Skyline Chili? Can I drink my favoite Yorkshire tea with pizza?


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Oct 03 - 09:12 AM

Dear SS:

Yes, there is salsa here. Do you prefer fruit-based, legume-based, corn (maize)-based, vegetable-based, or tomato-based? I haven't seen any potato-based...yet. Does your taste run to mild, medium, hot, scorching, incediary, or hellish?

Once your identity is know, I shall send you a local speciality: a tripe 'n' lights and lentil pizza, topped with a five-way and cooked on a mashed-potato crust in a genuine mud oven! Combined with a big bowl of son-of-bitch stew (and only if your bowl has the marrow gut!) and washed down with Pluto Water direct from French Lick, Indiana (just ask for a "bottle of imported stuff") it's a treat for Man and beast. A complete meal AND one guaranteed to help you loose weight!

Being poor now, I'll have to send you the pizza by parcel post, so it might take a while to arrive.

Sincerely,
Your Humble And Devoted Servant,
Wazhizname, you know, your Santee, the guy lost in the Idaho wilds....


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Oct 03 - 10:32 AM

Eeeeyyyewwww! Better watch out or your red rug will be multi colors of puke!


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 06:19 PM

Termites. And a jury-rigged electrical system so bad that the electrical inspector disconnected a half dozen of the breaker (14 gauge wire on 20 amp breakers). And some other things.

Whatthehell! It's just money....


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 06:53 PM

Get them to fix some of that stuff, or have their insurance cover it before you close.


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 07:04 PM

You betcha they're gonna pay for at least some of it! Now the negotiating starts in earnest.


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 08:10 PM

When I bought my house I learned from the former long-term renters (10 years in the place) that the air conditioner/heater was on it's last legs. The repairman had told them it wouldn't last another year, and this had been reported to the owner. But the owner hadn't lived in the house for a long time so wasn't obligated to divulge any of this. When I presented them with a hefty bill for repairs and upgrades they accepted my lower offer, and I convinced them that since I didn't want to pay for the new heat/ac out of my pocket, they agreed to give me back $7500 at closing. I financed the higher amount so I wouldn't have to take out a separate loan, but they gave that back to me and I turned it over to the heat pump contractor. It's a long term item for the house, so it made sense to finance this in that manner.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Oct 03 - 12:27 PM

We realize and accept that we're going to have to pay for some things -- after all, NO house is perfect when you move it. Fortunately, we're in a position to be able to have a lot of the problems corrected before we move in.

Monday the roof inspector arrives, and I expect that we'll be told that we'll need a new roof in a just a couple of years. The plumber also comes Monday to inspect, and I don't know what that will result in.

The electrical inspection yesterday was disasterous, with so much "Joe Homeowner" things done that the electrician was required by law to disconnect some circuits because they were too hazardous to leave connected. Other electrical stuff is fine.

The AC will also have to be replaced, I'm sure.

Well, I'd rather know beforehand than too late. And I'm learning in what esteem Joe Homeowner's work is held by professionals.


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Oct 03 - 12:52 PM

My mother bought a house from the family of a man who died doing his own electrical work. He was handling a hot wire in the basement and his head came into contact with an iron water pipe. . . he died some days or weeks later from his injuries.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: open mike
Date: 18 Oct 03 - 02:23 AM

i just had an on-demand/tankless H2OT water heater installed.
The most common brand may be Aqua Star, which i had in my
previous house, and the one I have now is Infinion. I believe
Bosch may have bought out Aqua Star (they are both French i think)

akwakai makes the infinion their number is 1-800-247-3619
they are from near Seattle. They are available with two
options for lighting: pilot light and piezo ignition unit.'
the pilot light uses quitye a bit of gas, but keeps the
unit warm and hopefully prevents freezing (mine is mounted outside)

I am glad you are going to replace the shake shingles...
they are a great fire hazard. but make great kinkling for your
fire place!

i have friends who have had good luck with a paloma brand too.
http://www.gaswaterheaters.com/pdf/
quite a few types are compared on this site.

since a tankless water heater can produce endless supplies
of hot water, limited only by available water and fuel,
you could get a hot tub full of water with no problem..
I'll be arriving shortly with my rubber duckie and towel.
See you soon!! I actually had a nice bathing experience
last time i was in your neck of the woods...
just to the south of "Pokey" is the Lava Hot Springs
and that was my 1/2 way stop on my 800 mile day between
Bozeman and Elko!!
when you cut that red carpet into strips,
just lay it out in the driveway to welcome
all your well-wishers!! see you
oh veggie pizza with pesto is my choice!


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 18 Oct 03 - 12:35 PM

If I can make a humble suggestion, fix everything now, or at least as soon as possible. This may be rough finantially, but remember, "enthusiasm diminishes with time".


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: GUEST,Rapaire's Secre Santa
Date: 18 Oct 03 - 02:46 PM

I like my salsa HOT, HOT, HOT. Do you really need AC in I-dee-ho-ho-ho? Sorry about all the house problems. I can help a little with carpentry, roofing, painting, hard labor, but forget plumbing and electrical.


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Oct 03 - 08:39 AM

The temperature rose as high as 104 F here this past summer, and I now own a wonderful collection of electric fans. AC, yes. It's also gone down as far as -40, I've heard.

While I have done my own electric and plumbing, I'd MUCH rather leave such work to the pros. I have walked through water that had live electricity in it and that was a "grace of God" experience -- no thanks!

OM, if you went to Lava you had a good time. It's one of The West's best secrets. (Wish the same was true of Jackson, Wyoming! Lord, what fools those tourists be! Leather pants and leather bra under a red coat trimmed in maribou is _ranch wear_? Where, the Mustang Ranch?

Veggie pesto pizza is available. So are lots of organic veggies and such. Between the LDS church and its missionaries and Idaho State University the food choices are quite wide.


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Oct 03 - 07:11 PM

Dear Secret Santa,

Please bring me a new roof and some good electrical work for the house I'm gonna buy. Also termite proofing. I can handle the rest.

I've been a good boy, mostly, all year and helped little old ladies across the street and only mugged the rich ones. I helped my family stay out of jail and I didn't have to lie to the copys hardly at all.

Oh, yes, if you'd be good enough to get the squirrels out of the attic I'd appreciate it. If that means being a little gooder for the rest of the year, I'll be a little gooder. Heck, SS, I'll even be a big gooder.

Thank you for your kind consideration, and I'd like the gifts before Xmas, in fact, right after we close on the house.

Sincerely,
Your Friend,
R


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: GUEST,Rapaire's Secret Santa
Date: 21 Oct 03 - 05:14 AM

Bats in the belfry, squirrels in the attic, no problem, consider them outta there. If you promise to be very, very good, maybe the elves can help on that roof and electrical too. Just remember, I'm watching you. I saw what you did yesterday, that was really nice...but when you almost lost your temper last week......well, just remember to be careful, especially this time of year.


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Oct 03 - 08:51 AM

Gee, Santa, you're good! I don't remember even getting mildly annoyed last week.

Is your last name Ana? If so, are you Mexican? If your last name ia Ano, did you gain the day along the plains of Mexico?


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: GUEST,Rapaire's Secret Santa
Date: 21 Oct 03 - 09:08 PM

Remember the Alamo and San Jacinto Day too!


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: GUEST,One of Rapaire's Secret Santa's possible nei
Date: 21 Oct 03 - 09:18 PM

Tread carefully, oh jolly librarian! That thar territory is rotten with Mudcatters!


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 06:01 PM

And now...

I have just signed the final -- yes, FINAL!! -- acceptance of who's gonna pay for what of the defects found by our inspectors.

And that's it. The purchase contract is complete. We're already approved for a big mortgage and we'll have to have some work done before moving in. But the last negotiation is negotiated, and we finally had to flat-out say, "Okay. Last chance. Accept this or we walk away."

Three weeks from when we made the offer. Some of the joy went out of it, but that'll come back.

Closing date to be set, possession on closing.


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Nov 03 - 07:37 AM

We closed on Monday last, November 10. It's ours, even though for a few brief, shining, glorious moments beforehand we were completely WITHOUT a debt! Now, however....

Electrical work starts next week, a guest bedroom rug goes in this Saturday. Bookshelves go in in early December, and then "that god-awful red and black carpet" is going to be replaced. We're going to get as much done as possible (and affordable) before we move in.

Termite damage was found; they ate a rug we were going to replace anyway.

Ah, well, no more nights in the bar, getting drunk, singing at the top of my voice, annoying the barmaids and barflies. Soon I shall have to make my own liquor. Let's see, to no water add four ounces of 16-year-old single malt Bushmill's....


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Nov 03 - 10:00 AM

Rapaire, I was going to ask how this was moving along. Thanks for the update! Now, as they say, the fun begins!

I'm still looking for places and ways to install shelves. In the bathroom, looking for shelves for towels so people won't hit their heads on the shelving or drop towels into the loo. . .looking for shelving for kitchen stuff that gets lost in some poorly designed deep cabinets. . . need tons more of shelving for books. . .

And watching programs like This Old House and Hometime (to say nothing of that marvelous shop at his disposal on The New Yankee Workshop) are all ways to help generate a long shopping list for the next trip to Home Depot.

Enjoy!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 12 Nov 03 - 10:09 AM

WHOO_HOO!

One thing my parents did re: bookshelves - was to have *in every room* a shelf that ran around about 10 inches down from the ceiling - which also happened to be the level of the top of the door frames -


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Nov 03 - 10:28 AM

A 12 bottle wooden winerack works well for rolled up hand towels on the top of a bathroom cabinet.:-)

Congratulations, Rapaire! Sounds wonderful...lots of fun from here on out.

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Nov 03 - 10:33 AM

A plate rack - also a good place to store the empty bottles...

musical instruments,


one muso I know had his brown teapot collection stored up there - yes, all his friends thought it would be funny cool to give him brown enamlled teapots, and now he has the best collection of them in Australia.... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Nov 03 - 10:35 AM

what I meant was a plate rail - goes around a room at the level of the doors - about 3-4 inches wide.

Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Nov 03 - 01:44 PM

There is something that I flat don't understand. The kitchen has a cooking surface (not a stove, the ovens are seperate). The switches to turn on the light and the exhaust fan are on the wall *behind* the electric burners. So is an electical outlet.

While I'm in favor of having both, why in the world would anyone locate them in a place where you have to reach OVER hot pots and hot burners to get to them??? Yes, I'm having them relocated (and I may,if the money holds out, replace the electric cook top with a gas one).

Estimated date of moving into the first floor is December 1. Electrical work starts next week.

The writing of checks has already started. All contributions are welcome and not tax deductible.


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Subject: RE: BS: A house! A house!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Nov 03 - 07:12 PM

Rapaire,

I paid as much as I could with my VISA card, then paid off the bill (with the same cash I could have used for the check) every month. By funneling it through VISA I earned points through my Credit Union's participation in a bonus program (called "Score Card") and was able to translate all of those points into a KitchenAid stand mixer. I just used the last of the points for a couple of smaller items for Christmas.

It's always nice when you can in fact pinch that penny twice before you spend it!

SRS


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