ADD: The Postman's Knock

Subject: The Postman's Knock
From:
Date: 25 Nov 97 - 09:27 AM

Does anyone know the lyrics to "The Postman's Knock" as it appears on "Son of Morris On" and on the Albion Band's Live BBC Recordings CD -- the latter with an additional verse about "a pack of wild dogs"?

Subject: RE: The Postman's Knock
From: Wolfgang Hell
Date: 26 Nov 97 - 11:08 AM

could it be this? Wolfgang

Subject: RE: The Postman's Knock
From: Nigel Sellars
Date: 26 Nov 97 - 02:24 PM

Thanks, Wolfgang, that's it (although Could you help decipher the numbers and letters above the verse. I'm asuming it's chords, but can't be sure.) Still looking for the other verse about "as he's chased by a pack of wild dogs." Simon Nicol sings it on the Live BBC recording CD

Subject: Lyr Add: THE POSTMAN'S KNOCK
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 09 Aug 11 - 10:22 AM

From the Bodleian broadside collection, Harding B 11(3576):


THE POSTMAN'S KNOCK
Ryle & Co., Printers, 2 & 3, Monmouth Court, Seven Dials, London.

What a wonderful man the postman is,
As he hastens from door to door!
What a medley of news his hands contain
For high, low, rich and poor!
In many faces he joy can trace,
In as many he grief can see,
As the door is ope'd to his loud ran-tan,
And his quick delivery.
Every morn, true as the clock,
Somebody hears the postman's knock.

No. 1 he presents with the news of a birth,
With tidings of death No. 4;
At 13, a bill of a terrible length
He drops through the hole in the door.
A cheque or an order at 15 he leaves,
And 16 his presence doth prove;
While 17 does an acknowledgement get,
And 18 a letter of love.
Every morn, true as the clock,
Somebody hears the postman's knock.

May his visits be frequent to those who expect
A line from the friends they hold dear,
But rarely, we hope, compell'd he will be
Disastrous tidings to bear.
Far, far be the day when the envelope shows
The dark border shading it o'er.
Then long life to Her Majesty's servant we say,
And oft may he knock at our door.
Every morn, true as the clock,
Somebody hears the postman's knock.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Postman's Knock
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Aug 11 - 11:17 PM

And the mail must get through
Whatever the hazards or odds
This low man of letters just peddles on through
Pursued by a pack of wild dogs
But ease and complaining whatever the trial
Or beating he never retreats
For you get a free bag and a hat with a badge
And it's better than walking the streets.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Postman's Knock
From: Splott Man
Date: 10 Aug 11 - 03:47 AM

I think line 2 is missing there GUEST.

I have long wondered what the third verse was. These versions above fit with the two different recordings I have of the song. So much thanks both.

When I was learning the song, I contacted an old friend who had done his tour of duty as a member of the band, to try and find that elusive verse. He contacted Simon N, and they came back with two lines of doggerel (bearing no relation to either of the above), which I expanded into the following.

On Monday a government leaflet on AIDS (that dates it!)
For gay folk and straight folk alike.
On Tuesday a Readers' Digest draw.
Well done! You've just won a bike.
On Wednesday some coupons for thruppence off Daz,
But ten pence of Bold's even better.
On Thursday some party political bumf
And on Friday, my goodness! A letter!

Splott Man

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Postman's Knock
From: nickp
Date: 10 Aug 11 - 04:16 AM

I'm guessing that's "pedals" rather than "peddles" although there's no mention of a bicycle!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Postman's Knock
From: nutty
Date: 10 Aug 11 - 06:02 AM

If my memory serves me well. the original poem was written by LS Thornton of Halifax (UK) in the late 1800's. I have his poetry book somewhere. If I can locate it I'll post the original.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Postman's Knock
From: nutty
Date: 10 Aug 11 - 07:25 AM

Correction - it was L M Thornton and the original sheet music is here in the Levy Collection

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Postman's Knock
From: nickp
Date: 10 Aug 11 - 08:57 AM

Wow! Great detective work.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Postman's Knock
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler
Date: 11 Aug 11 - 03:29 AM

We (The Slightly Notorious Ebor Morris of York) dance it.

Subject: ADD: The Postman's Knock
From: GUEST,Reinhard
Date: 11 Aug 11 - 06:43 AM

S.J. Adair Fitz-gerald writes in his book Stories of Famous Songs Vol 1, c. 1901, pp. 227ff:

A SIMPLE, homely song that is rarely heard now-a-days, for its novelty has long worn off, is " The Postman's Knock," written by L. M. Thornton, and composed by W. T. Wrighton, of drawing-room ballad composing and singing celebrity. "The Postman's Knock," when it was first published, about forty years ago, spread into favour at once, and was sung all over Eng-land, because it appeared at a period when the " New Penny Post" of Rowland Hill had had time to become understanded of the people and to be utilized by them. And because it appealed to the sympathies of the majority, it remained quite a favourite in some parts of the country for more than twenty years. The words were written by a humble individual of small literary ability, who died in the Bath Workhouse, May 8th, 1888, after a hard fight against poverty. It must be confessed at once there is no art whatever in the irregular stanzas of the song, but there is plenty of human nature of a kind:

THE POSTMAN'S KNOCK

"What a wonderful man the postman is,
As he hastens from door to door !
What a medley of news his hands contain,
For high, low, rich, and poor !
In many a face he joy doth trace,
In as many he gnefs can see,
As the door is ope'd to his loud rat-tat,
And his quick delivery.
Every morn, as true as the clock,
Somebody hears the postman's knock.

"Number One he presents with the news of birth,
With tidings of death, Number Four,
At Thirteen a bill of a terrible length
He drops through the hole in the door.
A cheque or an order at Fifteen he leaves,
And Sixteen his presence doth prove,
While Seventeen does an acknowledgment get,
And Eighteen a letter of love."

Properly speaking, the love-letter should have been left at Seventeen, but perhaps Mr.Thornton was above punning. It should be remembered that a letter in those days was quite an event, for before the introduction of Sir Rowland Hill's "Penny Post," letters were very expensive luxuries indeed. For one to receive a letter, in country parts, was to be converted into a kind of hero for the time being, and to be worshipped accordingly. Letters from oversea were almost unknown except amongst the well to do, and friends and relations who lived at a distance rarely heard of each other from one year's end to another. Now for the last verse:

"May his visits be frequent to those -who expect
A line from the friends they hold dear;
But rarely, we hope, compelled he will be
Disastrous tidings to bear.
Far, far be the day when the envelope shows
The dark border shading it o'er;
Then long life to Her Majesty's servant, we say,
And oft may he knock at the door !"

Let us not be too captious over the poverty of idea here exposed, nor criticise too harshly the falseness of the metre and the weakness of the rhyme. L. M. Thornton knew his audience, and wrote level to them, and being of a homely nature himself, he knew exactly the chords he could play upon with the best results. Thornton wrote many other lyrics that were more or less popular as, for instance, " Pleasure," " Smiles and Tears," " Sing on, Sweet Bird," " Look Up," and the sacred songs, "As One by One our Friends Depart," and " Rest for the Weary," the music being composed by W. T. Wrighton. "The Postman's Knock" was so widely known and sung, that John Baldwin Buckstone had a piece written on the subject for the Haymarket Theatre. On April ioth, 1856, he produced a musical farce, concocted by L. M. Thornton, of which the " Illustrated London News," of April 19th of the same year, says: "A new farce, called ' The Postman's Knock/ somewhat rudely constructed, for the apparent purpose of introducing the song so named, has been pro-duced at this (Haymarket) Theatre. The song itself is well sung by Mr. Farren ; and the piece aided by his talent, and that of Miss Lavine and Miss Schott, who also sing a ballad or two each, has been favourably received." The programme for the week at the Theatre Royal, Haymarket, is worth giving: " Monday, April 7, and during the week, the new and successful comedy,' The Evil Genius ,' after which the renowned Spanish Dancer, Perea Nena, who, with Manuel Perez and a New Company, will appear in the New Ballet-Pantomime of ' El Gambusino; or, The Mexican Gold-Digger,' after which, on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, for the Last Three Nights, ' Lend Me Five Shillings' (Buckstone as Golightly); on Thursday a New Farce called ' The Postman's Knock.' " But the piece was first tried at the Surrey Theatre on the 7th of the same month with Phelps and Voltaire in the cast.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Postman's Knock
From: GUEST,Greum
Date: 25 Sep 24 - 06:28 AM

The original score mentioned above has moved and can now be found here: https://levysheetmusic.mse.jhu.edu/collection/103/038

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Postman's Knock
From: RTim
Date: 25 Sep 24 - 11:55 AM

Hi all -
Postman's Knock is used for a Traditional Morris Dance from the village of Adderbury in Oxfordshire.
The song text and dance steps were collected by Janet Heatly Blunt from William Walton....last Squire of the old village team (ended in 1880's) She collected them in 1916...and it has been used by the revived village team since the mid 1970's..
Sometimes it is just Sung while standing still with Stick Clashing in the chorus...but is also danced and sung at the same time....and that is Not easy to do..
As stated above - it was written by L. M. Thornton, and composed by W. T. Wrighton.

Tim Radford (Squire and Foreman The Adderbury Morris 1974 to 1996)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Postman's Knock
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 25 Sep 24 - 12:54 PM

On YouTube, The Postman's Knock · The Albion Band    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3DK-1qkQi0

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Postman's Knock
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 25 Sep 24 - 01:02 PM

AND Various sets of lyrics from Mainly Norfolk https://mainlynorfolk.info/guvnor/songs/thepostmansknock.html

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Postman's Knock
From: RTim
Date: 25 Sep 24 - 02:35 PM

Hi again...

I have Never seen the verse that starts:
   And the mail must get through
   Whatever the hazards or odds...

I am pretty certain it was composed by someone in The Albion Band...Similarly they
added a couple of verses to "The Adderbury Wassail" that came from the same source in
Janet Blunt manuscript.

Tim Radford