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Peace 24 Jul 04 - 09:34 PM
Once Famous 24 Jul 04 - 10:18 PM
The Fooles Troupe 24 Jul 04 - 11:37 PM
Georgiansilver 25 Jul 04 - 01:05 AM
Jeri 25 Jul 04 - 10:25 AM
Amos 25 Jul 04 - 10:45 AM
Jeri 25 Jul 04 - 11:36 AM
Amos 25 Jul 04 - 11:52 AM
Once Famous 25 Jul 04 - 01:14 PM
Jeri 25 Jul 04 - 01:45 PM
Once Famous 25 Jul 04 - 05:46 PM
McGrath of Harlow 25 Jul 04 - 05:56 PM
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Peace 25 Jul 04 - 06:54 PM
The Fooles Troupe 25 Jul 04 - 07:38 PM
Don Firth 25 Jul 04 - 07:40 PM
Once Famous 25 Jul 04 - 10:55 PM
Blackcatter 25 Jul 04 - 11:08 PM
The Fooles Troupe 26 Jul 04 - 02:06 AM
Georgiansilver 26 Jul 04 - 03:38 AM
jacqui.c 26 Jul 04 - 03:43 AM
The Fooles Troupe 26 Jul 04 - 06:02 AM
GUEST,.gargoyle 26 Jul 04 - 04:13 PM
mcgrathof altcar 26 Jul 04 - 04:39 PM
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McGrath of Harlow 26 Jul 04 - 05:17 PM
Blackcatter 26 Jul 04 - 05:49 PM
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MAG 26 Jul 04 - 10:53 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Peace
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 09:34 PM

That's Mudflap Feuds that aren't really feuds, kendall.


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From: Once Famous
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 10:18 PM

Take a look at what kind of foolish asshole like Don Firth writes such a long thread about someone who always gets the best of him. Creative? No, fucked. It really shows how shallow his life is that he spends so much time writing about me, which is his obsession and shows how much sleep he loses over me.

Guest, Jaze, did you changed your name for Jiz, as in jizzum.

Miss John from Dull: I would fart in your face, first opportunity.


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From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 11:37 PM

"Take a look at what kind of foolish asshole like Don Firth writes such a long thread about someone who always gets the best of him. Creative? No, fucked."

Do I detect the Green Eyed Monster - someone who despises a talent that he does not possess?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 01:05 AM

I too find Don Firth to be well talented in the literal department. Apart from hid fun filled fued with Martin, some of his postings are a delight to read...even those I do not agree with. Keep it up Don
Be Blessed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 10:25 AM

I thought Don's post was great. As to who's getting the best of whom, I think it's pretty obviously Don who's winning this one. My guess is that Marty has a very limited repertoire. Name-calling and relative-insulting sort of lose effectiveness after a while. Marty, if you want to keep insulting people, try learning some new tricks. Quite a few formerly 'nice' people around here have learned how to be nasty to people, so I'm sure you can develop new skills.

Play it again
Call 'em fuck face, dick breath, jerk-off boozers
Say their mama gives head to all the homeless losers
You'd think them shocking words would score
But they don't work like they used to anymore

Folks just yawn now, make fun of my style,
They just don't react to my prethenth
I guess if I really wanna piss 'em off
I'll hafta play this again with a Gmaj7th

[Play it again, etc...]

But folks can rhyme or write a story
They play some different games
But you know what they say about old dogs,
I'll just keep on callin' them names

Play it again...[yada, yada, yada]
- When it comes to creativity, I just don't rate
- 'Cause all I can do is hyphen-ate
- But I'll can play the banjo... [ends with first 9 notes from Dueling Banjos.]

Georgiansilver, not all who don't share your beliefs will see you as a target. If I tried to tell you not to post certain things about who you are or what you believe just because I'll have a knee-jerk reaction I won't be able to prevent, I'd be a controlling (of others, not myself) jerk.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Amos
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 10:45 AM

Jeri:

Pretenth....Gmaj7th?

What, lost some sleep last night working that over? :>)

I like your song, though, really truly.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 11:36 AM

Amos, are you familiar with the concept of the 'Persian Fuckup'. You know - those mistakes they put in works because only Allah is perfect, and they just KNOW they're not gonna make any mistakes? They have to do one on purpose so they don't make Allah look bad. It's humility. This isn't one of those things.

This is a "just how stupid CAN I make this song?" thing. Took me about 20 minutes - whaddya want? I could do a rewrite, but then the song wouldn't sound as stupid. I think I did a damned fine job of including the stupidity element, if I do say so myself.


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From: Amos
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 11:52 AM

Yeah, I know the concept but I always attributed it to Chinese ceramic artists from the Yang dynasty or something. ANyway, rhyming pretenth with seventh certainly is gonna protect you from the gods getting pissed off. It's perfect camouflage. Makes ya look like a regular ole humanoid slob going about his business!!

"No hubris here!!"

"These are not the Creative Individuals you are looking for". LOL!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Once Famous
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 01:14 PM

Limited repertoire?

How many different ways can you spell or believe bullshit?

No Foolstroupe, I envy no one. If you find writing a stupid web forum in old English talent, you are even more laughable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 01:45 PM

"How many different ways can you spell or believe bullshit?"

Exactly!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Once Famous
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 05:46 PM

Exactly what?


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From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 05:56 PM

That wasn't some kind of coded sneer on my part Georgiansilver - it was a straightforward question. "Blessed" can be pronounced two ways, and the word has a slightly different role according to which way it is pronounced.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 06:17 PM

McG of H sorry if it came across wrongly but was not having a go at you...just simply trying to explain. Be Blessed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Peace
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 06:54 PM

jOhn from Hull can spell bullshit in lotsa ways. He is the man.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 07:38 PM

Well Done Brucie!

"No Foolstroupe, I envy no one. If you find writing a stupid web forum in old English talent, you are even more laughable. "

Definitely the Green Eyed Monster! Shouting in a verbal argument is the proof that you have lost: in a text only argument, the argumentum ad hominem, which seems to be your main debating tactic, is the ultimate proof.

And My Virtual Fooles Troupe is a Web site, not a forum: that comment only reveals that you are not capable of doing proper research - unfortunately another strike against you for your claim as an expert in any field, let alone Folk Music.

Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 07:40 PM

Marty, when you drop a post like the ones you drop, your supposed to scoop it into a plastic bag and dispose of it properly.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Once Famous
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 10:55 PM

Foolstroupe, you are a sniveling whiner.

You really don't impress me.

As far as what I know about folk music or music in general, I don't have to justify anything to you, pig breath.

Debate with you? Why bother? Who would want to debate with someone who knows so little about anything? I wouldn't waste mny time with your idiotic, self serving web site.

My favorite and most effective debating skill is to just to tell you to fuck off, because you are just so unworthy.

Don, your remark was about as funny as the egg always on your dirty face. Really, Don. You are about as interesting as white bread, which is really your outlook on life.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 11:08 PM

Boy can't you just feel the love!


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From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 02:06 AM

"the argumentum ad hominem, which seems to be your main debating tactic"
Point conceded to Robin I think!

"As far as what I know about folk music or music in general, I don't have to justify anything" ... even abusing people... so what respect for your research talent do you get MG?

"My favourite and most effective debating skill is to just to tell you to fuck off" ... correction ... ONLY skill, it seems from the evidence presented here...

On occasions, I do like a good fresh baked white bread....

So I'm a Winner, or is that a Winer....

This posted on behalf of Robin by
Bottel the Winer of
The Fooles Troupe


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 03:38 AM

Fresh baked bread...with wine(or is it whine) with a wholesome "cheese" is good for the inner person. Be Blessed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 03:43 AM

Do you think it's Marty's time of the month or something? He does seem to be particularly strident and emotional at the moment. Maybe he's started going through the change........


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 06:02 AM

... just lack of bran mate....

... and my typing was checked - I did not mean 'brain'...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 04:13 PM

If the stick is stirring the shit-pot.....

It will ALWAYS stink

Sincerely,

Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: mcgrathof altcar
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 04:39 PM

its nice to be nice


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 04:55 PM

Well, now, let's not be too hard on Marty. It must be admitted that he does have fairly lucid moments from time to time. For example:

It was some years after he had emerged from the Dumpster and attempted to pass as human that he was arrested in a rural area outside of Chicago and charged with lewd and lascivious conduct. Unable to find any of his usual chickens or sheep, he discovered himself passing a pumpkin patch. He explained to the judge that, "A pumpkin is soft and squishy inside and I didn't think there was anyone around for miles." Marty went on to say that he picked out a particularly attractive pumpkin, one that turned him on, and that he felt was appropriate to his purposes, cut a hole in it, and proceeded to. . . .

So much in love was he that he didn't even see the Cook County police cruiser pull up, the door open, and Officer Brenda MacDougall get out and walk up to him. She watched him for awhile, not knowing whether to be totally disgusted or to laugh her head off. Finally, she said, "'Excuse me, but do you realize that you're screwing a pumpkin?"

Startled, he dropped the pumpkin, which shattered messily on the blacktopped road, and stood there like a deer literally caught in the headlights with his fly unzipped and his glory displayed to all the world. Bewildered for a moment at getting caught in the act, but (as we all realize by now) having never known an emotion like embarrassment, he had a sudden flash of sheer brilliance.

"A pumpkin!!??? " he said, as if shocked and surprised. "Ye gods! Is it midnight already!!???"

They booked him anyway.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 05:17 PM

"My favorite and most effective debating skill is to just to tell you to fuck off..."

That sums it up pretty well. "Effective" in more or less the same sense as using a banana to drive in a nail.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Blackcatter
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 05:49 PM

Umm Don,

Following the logic of the (albeit modernized) Cinderella story, was he screwing the tailpipe of a limo?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 06:18 PM

Well, according to Officer MacDougall, it was a pumpkin. But it was pretty dark. . . .

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 06:23 PM

. . . and judging from the bizarre suggestions he has made to most of us at one time or another, Marty isn't especially particular.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 07:30 PM

All you need is Love...la, la, la, la, la...All you need is...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 07:33 PM

Oh Don. You seem to have dispelled the rumour that it was a grape!
Oh well. Be Blessed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 08:15 PM

Well, as they said, it was dark. A grape might have been adequate. . . .

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Once Famous
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 10:36 PM

This attempt at humor by Don Filth is just so lame!

It smacks of an over 70 year old, completely out of touch person who has nothing better to do than write stupid shit because his days of getting laid are so far over, along with making decent music and not leaving his house without wearing a Depends diaper.

Pathetic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: MAG
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 10:53 PM

Ah yes, "Martin." You so remind me of this Broward County lawyer I once knew. Chip on his shoulder big as the rock of Gibralter. Anybody he thought played better than he did came in   for constant put-downs and various rude behavior. Only friend was one nice guy who felt sorry for him.

Your name wouldn't be Steve, would it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 11:04 PM

All you need is Bran...la, la, la, la, la... All you need is...

or maybe Sennapod Tea...


"It smacks of an over 70 year old"

Happy Birthday Don!

and I don't think it's nice to smack 70 year olds...

Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 11:14 PM

Hey! This thread is for feuds that AREN'T really feuds. Take this war with Martin Gibson somewhere else, people. (Of course, that would mean not having the last word...aw, forget it!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 12:10 AM

For example, I really do not have anything against Little Hawk, a veritable Prince among men. Even though I temporarily took away his damned hand-puppet! :>) I know he's going to just have to put it back on, though. He's addicted to certain behaviours and won't be able not to become SHatner once again. But I can forgive him.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 12:36 AM

There you go. Now we're back on track here. Feuds that aren't really feuds are the subject of the hour.

(Like Chongo's feud with Martin Gibson, for example.)

I used to also attack the NYCFTTS regularly...partly just to attack Spaw...and partly because it gave me a way to promote its alternative, the WSSBA. I did think that the James Taylor Center for Catatonic Blandness, on the other hand, was a simply brilliant notion on Spaw's part, and I never attacked it at all.


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From: Georgiansilver
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 04:33 AM

This is not a war with Martin!! I believe we are all responding to his attention seeking behaviour as we worry about the poor guy becoming neurotic. If we failed to respond the poor guy would curl up in a corner and cry. Be nice to him. Be Blessed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 12:54 PM

My humor is lame, Marty? You seem to be the only one who isn't laughing.

Don Firth

P. S.: You can't spell for sour owl jowls either!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 01:09 PM

Don, you and Martin should consider costarring in a new edition of "The Odd Couple". :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 01:18 PM

More like "The three hundred Spartans" with Don as the invading Greek army. Martin as the Spartans is well outnumbered and bound to be defeated..but not without putting up a good fight. Be Blessed


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From: GUEST,Georgiansilver at work
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 01:22 PM

Sorry...forgot that I would appear as guest but you would have known me by the sign off eh??? Be Blessed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 01:52 PM

But I digress. . . .

No, I have no feud with Marty. In fact, I'm grateful to him for providing me with such a deserving target.

I've been keeping my nose to the grindstone and doing a lot of serious writing lately, and having just finish a difficult chapter on the magnum opus I'm working on, I thought I'd take a break and try my hand at combining the styles of Max Shulman (Barefoot Boy with Cheek, The Feather Merchants) and Don Marquis (archy and mehitabel), with a sprinkling of Dave Barry and a lot of my own prodigious wit (I have learned from the Masters, such as Stilly River Sage's father).

I admit that it's an experiment in writing, but even though Marty seems to be sulking, I'm fairly pleased with the results so far.

No feud, at least on my part. Just havin' fun.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Blackcatter
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 01:52 PM

Yeah GS - we certainly can trust all the guest posts which try to sound like a member.

Sacred Insect


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 01:59 PM

Max Shulman was one of my favorites, Don, right up there with the great Thurber, and archie.

Toujours gai!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 03:19 PM

Amos, I've got a funny one about my relationship with Max Shulman. Several hundred years ago, I was in a high school creative writing class (senior elective). The teacher assigned us a short story and gave us a deadline. I had an idea for a short story: something very "serious and literary." But—I had been reading Barefoot Boy with Cheek, and just for fun and on my own time, I wrote a zany story along that line. Outrageous characters and really dippy humor. I was having so much fun with it, that the deadline crept up on me and suddenly there it was and I hadn't done anything on the serious story I had in mind. So to save my butt, I turned in the Shulman-esque story, fully expecting to get maybe a C-minus and a comment from the teacher, like "Now REALLY, Don!"

She loved it! Normally a somewhat stereotypically stiff high school English teacher, she howled with laughter when she read it—and sent it in to the Atlantic Monthly high school short story contest. It didn't win, but it did get an honorable mention in the humor department, with some very nice, encouraging comments from the judges.

I don't have the story anymore, because the handwritten copy that I turned in (which she sent to AM) was the only one I had. But it did teach me a valuable lesson:   don't knock yourself out trying to be "serious and literary." Just write what you enjoy writing.
###
. . . and Don Maquis—

Who among the greatest poets of history can match such marvels as those to be found in works like "archy interviews a pharaoh":
little archy
forty centuries of thirst
look down upon you
oh by isis
and by osiris
says the princely raisin
and by pish and phthush and phthah
by the sacred book perembru
and all the gods
that rule from the upper
cataract of the nile
to the delta of the duodenum
i am dry
i am as dry
as the next morning mouth
of the dissipated desert
as dry as the hoofs
of the camels of timbuctoo
little fussy face
i am as dry as the heart
of a sand storm
at high noon in hell
i have been lying here
and there
for four thousand years
with silicon in my esophagus
and gravel in my gizzard
thinking
thinking
thinking
of beer
(A moment of silence . . . I am in awe)

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 04:47 PM

Hey Garg.......Ya' still out there? This thread is pretty pathetic. I mean it started off as a kinda' funny idea but went downhill pretty quick.

I recall as you do I'm sure, a time when we would have a go at each other and others too and it really got to boiling. You predicted back then that it would lead to a dumbing down even more significant than that which you argued was already happening. I hate to admit that you, you shit filled gutter spout, were right.......but alas you were. The current crop of "feuds," like the current crop of threads, are on a sub-par level at the very least and more like the usual net style bullshit rather than Mudcat. So there ya' go Greg.....I'll take responsibility but I won't apologize..........Or maybe I should apologize and not take responsibility. Fuckit, I'll have an order of both and you can join me......I mean you may have predicted it, but you have some culpability here as well..........

As to your thread Hawk...........We have had some great fake feuds, you and I, but the funniest non-feud I remember is one where Kendall started a thread about Gordon Bok's new songbook entitled, "Gordon Bok Fans." I took it off into the idea of fan, the wind moving device, and went on at great length over several days about Bok's new line of fans and how you could get one free with a songbook or something along those lines. Kendall kept coming in and telling me that Gordon sometimes read the threads but I figured it was such an obvious joke he'd enjoy it. Turns out gordon isn't endowed with anything but a straightlaced sense of humor and he didn't get it at all. Missed the joke entirely!!! He didn't get the "gordon Bok Special Edition Amish-Australian Pitchfork Moustache Tuner" either.........****sigh****..................


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 04:57 PM

Gee,

Some people got no sense of humor.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 05:29 PM

Don - your writing will probably put you in line for Snog of the Week - be warned!


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