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BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP

Josh 06 Feb 05 - 06:21 PM
Peace 06 Feb 05 - 06:23 PM
Big Al Whittle 06 Feb 05 - 07:08 PM
GUEST,Mr Happy 07 Feb 05 - 11:52 AM
Peace 07 Feb 05 - 12:46 PM
Blissfully Ignorant 07 Feb 05 - 03:30 PM
Peace 07 Feb 05 - 03:37 PM
Blissfully Ignorant 07 Feb 05 - 03:40 PM
Peace 07 Feb 05 - 03:48 PM
Blissfully Ignorant 07 Feb 05 - 03:56 PM
Chris Green 07 Feb 05 - 06:40 PM
Mr Happy 07 Feb 05 - 07:13 PM
Peace 07 Feb 05 - 08:24 PM
mandotim 08 Feb 05 - 03:50 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Josh
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 06:21 PM

Brucie boy! That's gotta be the longest headache ever!!!!

OK I'll start a new post in the morning.


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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Peace
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 06:23 PM

Thank you.


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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Feb 05 - 07:08 PM

I'm not a kangaroo, but I enjoy the occasional jump......

I feel (as ever) i can add nothing constructive to this debate, however I will trade insults with anybody for your right to say it.


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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST,Mr Happy
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 11:52 AM

Does the BNP really propose sending everyone back to their places of origin?

How many generations back do they intend to start from?

Is everyone presently residing in Britain was sent back,the country would be empty & there'd be piles of space for immigrants!


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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 12:46 PM

"Does the BNP really propose sending everyone back to their places of origin?"

Spend the first nine months trying to get out of it and the rest of yer life tryin' to get back in.


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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 03:30 PM

Um...hey! Could you please send some of these immigrants up to Scotland, if you don't want them? We've got a falling population problem, and we're not to bothered about our English heritage being destroyed...:0)

I'd rather drink a pint of liquid shit than vote BNP (braindead nazi pricks?) but maybe that's just me...


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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 03:37 PM

Only a pint?


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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 03:40 PM

Oh, hell...as much as it takes to stop braindead nazi pricks getting elected. A pint of liquid shit, a yard of liquid shit....a veritable river of liquid shit. Enough liquid shit to fill the Albert Hall...


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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 03:48 PM

Not the Albert Hall. It has holes already.


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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 03:56 PM

But the holes are rather small...


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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Chris Green
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 06:40 PM

Still, you have to laugh, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Mr Happy
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 07:13 PM

loada tripe!!


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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 08:24 PM

Tripe? I'd sooner eat the stomach of a cow.


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Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: mandotim
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 03:50 AM

I wasn't going to get involved, but I feel I should. There is a long term historical perspective to this. The history of powerful civilisations shows us that as wealth and prosperity grows, there is an increasing reluctance on the part of the indigenous population to carry out the less edifying tasks that keep the society functioning. The consequence is that such societies tend to seek labour from outside their borders; examples include the Roman Empire (read Gibbon's 'Decline and Fall...'), slavery in the United States, the economic boom in the 1950s in Britain which stimulated Caribbean and Asian immigration, the current migration of Filipino labour to the West and the Middle East, the UK recruiting nurses from overseas; the list is long. There is a parallel process whereby those who live in less prosperous areas see the opportunity to improve their lot, and move by whichever means they have to hand (boat people, Cuban refugees, asylum seekers et al.)The whole system can be seen as humanity trying to reach some kind of equilibrium, where there is enough food and other resources to go round. I suppose what I am trying to say is that there is a historical inevitability to all of this; the principle of entropy ensures that civilisations, like all systems, decay over time, despite efforts to shore them up. Rather than trying to preserve some kind of racially and culturally static situation, the real trick is to try to assess what the next point of equilibrium will be , and move swiftly towards it, using the tools of statehood as necessary. A good primer for this thinking is Francis Fukuyama's book 'The End of History and the Last Man'; before the racists jump in, he's a third generation American. To give my own background, I live near Stoke, and I'm originally from Saddleworth. I'm deeply saddened by what has happened to my home town, especially the lack of tolerance. A musical link; go to www.webfolk.net , and have a look at Geoff's song 'Reclaim the Flag'. As an example of misunderstanding; he was accused of being racist when someone heard this for the first time.
Regards to all
Mandotim (Tim from Bit on the Side)


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