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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: John MacKenzie Date: 11 Apr 12 - 04:23 AM Identity pic of Hookey. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 11 Apr 12 - 09:28 AM "From: GUEST Date: 11 Apr 12 - 03:41 AM I never saw the thread many of you speak about. I can't help but think Hookey Wole doth protest too much, methinks. He seems to insist so passionately about it not being true, that people may well suspect the opposite of what he is saying." I got as far as the 'doth' & 'methinks' then you completely lost me.. what ???? I can't remember the last time I ever did 'passion' [well actually I can, but it was 20 years ago and what the wife never knows....] and the rest don't make any sense to me at all.. what "not being true"...??? Could you please rewrite your snide attempt at abuse in coherent modern plain 21st Century English. Then at least I can have a clear understanding of what it is you want me to respond to and why... whoever you are. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Barb'ry Date: 11 Apr 12 - 09:42 AM Since GfS post at 10.40 on 12th, there has only been one post on topic. I'm not saying the posts haven't been amusing (actually...) but IF we are going to try to work out why posts are being closed, they aren't actually helping, chaps. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 11 Apr 12 - 09:55 AM Hi Barb'ry, thanks.. the more constructive rational posts like yours, the better this place would be.. Unfortunately, as far back as I can remember, [and certainly as most exemplified by the shameful period of "The Clone Wars" and the public lynching of Shambles - yes, let's not go there again..] threads on this subject always attract disruptive posters intent on derailing any serious debate & negotiated conclusion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Bill D Date: 11 Apr 12 - 10:40 AM "... negotiated conclusion."?? Between who & whom? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Barb'ry Date: 11 Apr 12 - 11:02 AM You're right, Bill, but maybe we could lay out why threads are closed - or at least some of the reasons. Apart from personal attacks and various 'isms' it seems to me (and I'm usually wrong)) that someone posts an amusingly ironic/flip comment, which may or may not have a hidden slight, the recipient has an instant, knee jerk reaction, fires off something unpleasant, others jump on board and lo and behold, a slanging match ensues. The mod is then left to sort out the pieces of hurt feelings, snubs, accusations etc. Yes, it could be left - and perhaps in the case of deliberate nastiness, could be used to show the 'awfulness' of the poster - but not all of us are happy for personal attacks etc to be left. I dunno, each thread is different and each closure is for a different reason - pick one! Maybe mods can leave a message when things are getting a bit close to the wind... 'Oi, watch it' or something! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 11 Apr 12 - 11:13 AM " "... negotiated conclusion."?? Between who & whom?" errrmm... friendly intelligent open minded grown up folks; - members, regular recognizable named guests, and appointed officials of mudcat community... ???? oh right.. yes.. I see the flaw now in that naive aspiration..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 11 Apr 12 - 11:36 AM I understand that the job of a moderator is to control the quality of the content, but some moderators go too far. Some are simply just opinionated, they take your posts down if they happen to disagree with you on a matter, dislike you as a person and some just get a kick out of having power. In sport the executive will often change the management when they are not preforming, the players are not always the ones to blame. Take note Max. A film that comes to mind is, Little Caesar. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: John MacKenzie Date: 11 Apr 12 - 11:51 AM That's not true Bluesman. Posts have been reinstated by a senior mod, after they have been deleted by another mod. If complaints are made to those in charge and they look into it, and find the mark has been overstepped. Then it is remedied, and the mod concerned is spoken to. In view of what Joe said earlier I can not name names, but at one time, he was the final arbiter of all deletions, and their justifications. So you can't attack clones/mods in an individual fashion, they too are responsible to higher authority. This is why I think all mods should eithr be anonymous OR, operate under an assumed name for the purposes of moderating. As has been said times without number, "If you have a problem, PM Max" Then again, you aren't a member are you? Which, without being nasty, makes me wonder what right you, or any other non member has to complain at all! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 11 Apr 12 - 11:52 AM In essence, most of us accept and support the benevolent dictatorship structure of mudcat. Our loyalty to this international community is real and sincere. We dont need to be aware of all behind scenes internal workings, disciplinary actions, or factions and powerplays between mods. We'd just appreciate a genuine assurance that mods constantly monitor & rectify each other for instances of poor judgement and abuses of position... and openly communicate with us with positivity and respect. It's that simple really... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: John MacKenzie Date: 11 Apr 12 - 12:08 PM Well you have that assurance. Communications if any would be by means of a PM! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 11 Apr 12 - 01:13 PM "without being nasty, makes me wonder what right you, or any other non member has to complain at all" John, I would never think of you as nasty, your comments are always fair and reasonable at all times. John, I was once a member, the benefits were pm's from terminal bores who spoke to me like Jehovah's Witnesses and a message to my email account from the provider to say they had received a complaint from this forum, regarding content I was posting on the site. Being a guest has more benefits, at least you have anonymity. In saying that, several members know me personally and we can converse through email. Keith. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: John MacKenzie Date: 11 Apr 12 - 01:18 PM Swings and roundabouts mate |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 11 Apr 12 - 01:39 PM Barb'ry: "Since GfS post at 10.40 on 12th, there has only been one post on topic. I'm not saying the posts haven't been amusing (actually...) but IF we are going to try to work out why posts are being closed, they aren't actually helping, chaps." Bluesman: "I understand that the job of a moderator is to control the quality of the content, but some moderators go too far. Some are simply just opinionated, they take your posts down if they happen to disagree with you on a matter, dislike you as a person and some just get a kick out of having power." What you are both saying is absolutely TRUE!....Your clue is, in reality, this thread has been closed....just a different tactic. As I said, "OH!..I get it!...As long as we never get to the bottom of anything ...this must be the center of nothing! Dang!..I had hopes....or was that change??? Same ol' stuff..." Nobody wants an answer, but rather to 'safeguard' a questionable opinion(?)....even if that 'opinion' incorporates deception, and, matter of fact, is built on deception.....but, it's what they want people to subscribe to...even if it's bogus..they don't care, it's their identity. ...and SOME of you THOUGHT I was the anonymous 'Guest'! ...just not to the TRUTH! In other words, we are either being told WHAT to think and express, not HOW to think and express...And Max should take note! Regards, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 11 Apr 12 - 01:51 PM Again, an excellent post GfS, No one could disagree with your astute observations. You have hit the nail firmly on the head. You should actually copy it, it may well be vaporized within the hour. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Greg F. Date: 11 Apr 12 - 01:57 PM Don't you people have anything of importance or significandce to spend your time and energy on? Pretty pitiful if debating the administration of a web site is the most important thing in your lives. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Bluesman Date: 11 Apr 12 - 02:10 PM Very true Greg, and you seem to have the time to come and read it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 11 Apr 12 - 02:10 PM Well Greg, can't speak for anyone else, but when I'm at home I fit in a few minutes mudcat time here and there, spread out between cooking meals, doing music stuff, watching telly, and visits to the lav.. etc.. It's all about priorities. How about you, seeing as you've posted to this specific thread 5 times already..?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Ebbie Date: 11 Apr 12 - 02:27 PM I can't speak to how anyone else feels about closed threads but I always feel embarrassed at having been a part of something that got so out of hand. We are presumably all adult here, all of an age that should dictate a certain insight into the interactions of human beings, but instead, it seems that the main thing we have learned in our maturity is to find the buttons and to push them with glee, if not malice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 11 Apr 12 - 02:43 PM I am not sure who is getting wound up, who is winding up and who is just full of wind... It seems to me that everyone agrees. Everyone has the right to complain. The 'management' have the right to moderate. When someone sees 'immoderate moderation' they feel that it should be addressed in some way. What that some way is may be an issue but certainly one that we all agree is prely and simply Max's prerogative. We are now on page 4 and all, seemingly, avidly agreeing with each other as if we were arguing! Very strange. The only recent point I disagree with is that 'everyone is off topic'. The topic is closed threads. Closed threads are one way of moderating discussions. Most of the above points have been about moderation. The two are inexorably linked and you cannot discuss why threads have been closed without introducing moderation. Well, not IMO anyway. Lets see how long we can all agree while making it seem like a war is going on :-) Cheers DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Don Firth Date: 11 Apr 12 - 04:46 PM One person's "immoderate moderation" may be someone else's "bloody well about time!" Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 11 Apr 12 - 05:45 PM Hence the 'quotes', Don. Moderation is as much a matter of opinion as anything else. Bringing us back to management having the right to moderate and others having the right to complain. Any disgreement about what constitutes good or bad 'refereeing' is almost as futile as who has the best voice! I cannot state with any certainty what has been good or bad moderation. What I am certain about is that there are some decisions I have strongly disagreed with. I have complained about them and felt better for it. Whether it did any one else any good I have no idea. I have also agreed with some decisions and will do so publicly again. Are we in agreement aboout that? If so, can we go back to the 'living room' scenario. Yes, we are Max's guests. Yes we should, and in the main do, behave ourselves. But Max is just the same. He is generaly a good host. If someone tells him that they don't like his wallpaper he will not storm off in a hissyfit (Will you Max?). He may even repaint (Green is my favourite). If someone tells him that one of his friends is misbehaving he may or may not take notice. Depending on the circumstances he may or may not take action. He may even choose the right to complain about the complainant! Moving on to the well run bar concept I can confirm that I have used the analogy myself. I have pointed out that if a number of obnoxious loudmouths take over a bar it quickly becomes a place that many people will not frequent. It will probably close down. There has been a number of such people here who have been shown the door. There are some who decided to stay. But I am thankful that the management have had the sense to tell them to put a sock in it or suffer the consequences and that, in the main, they are much quieter than before:-) Cheers DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Greg F. Date: 11 Apr 12 - 05:55 PM Very true Greg, and you seem to have the time to come and read it. Only for comic relief- and I was disappointed in that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 11 Apr 12 - 06:02 PM ""It's the issues about mod/clone strategies and accountability that are most pertinent to topic of debate in this specific thread.."" I sympathise with you as far as the stalking and impersonation goes Hookey, but cannot subscribe to your comments about Mod strategies and accountability. They are accountable to Max, the owner of this site, and to nobody else. So, if there is something in their strategies which is wrong, it is Max who will say so. Can you see that this kind of problem arises out of your (and others') disinclination to become members, for whatever reason. The practical view of this is as follows: 1. This doesn't happen to members. 2. Mods, for that reason are spared the job of dealing with it for members. 3. Guests choose a path which leaves them open to this problem. 4. Mods are all volunteers who have lives outside of Mudcat and might justifiably state that they deal with these things in the way which causes them least inconvenience, solving the problem with a pragmatic rsponse. Can you see where I'm going with this? Do you feel that you should be privileged to impose extra work on members by refusing to become one yourself? Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 11 Apr 12 - 07:38 PM I don't think shifting the topic, is particularly answering the question of 'Why closed threads?'....all this, and now, through a little slight of hand people are wanting to talk about the 'mods'..pretty slick!...then someone becomes 'rude' and insults the 'mods'....and pisses people off. No need to get pissed at the mods. They are the ones who have closed the threads, they know why....and they know when they are requested to, and who is requesting it. What might be illuminating, is when someone is requesting it, is it because they just can't handle people being 'nasty to each other' or because the one requesting it, is up against a wall of the fabricated bullshit that is being peeled away. For Pete's sake, an open discussion is healthy, and so are controversial ones, and even ones that use 'colorful' language...ESPECIALLY, if it being done by people who write songs and write lyrics.......but something is out of joint here. Posts disappear that requires thinking..instead of 'parroting' a talking point...and when the parroted talking points fail simple logic, bye-bye posts. Somebody in control just don't like people thinking for themselves..No, no-no! You MAY NOT rise above political rhetoric. You MUST remain in compliance with 'discussing' and debating, the issues that you are allowed to discuss...don't even THINK about approaching the area, in which the policies of 'political control' has little or no use!! So, I'll leave you with a thought, which if you take the time, slowly, THINK about these lyrics, as applied today..in relationship to what we see..OK?...forget the frolic of the original tune....imagine Pete and where his head was at, when he wrote this..when there was NO music...just his thoughts. I think you'll find this VERY consistent with what NEEDS to be felt, today(that is if some 'political wing' doesn't try to lay claim, as the sentiment is on their side...so they are the only 'administrators' of it)...AND remember, when this song came out, how 'The Establishment' thought it was 'subversive'.....You think??: Read it slow...and think clearly.... ...after all, this is a folk forum.....................isn't it? SLOWLY! If I had a hammer I'd hammer in the morning I'd hammer in the evening All over this land I'd hammer out danger I'd hammer out a warning I'd hammer out love between my brothers and my sisters All over this land If I had a bell I'd ring it in the morning I'd ring it in the evening All over this land I'd ring out danger I'd ring out a warning I'd ring out love between my brothers and my sisters All over this land If I had a song I'd sing it in the morning I'd sing it in the evening All over this land I'd sing out danger I'd sing out a warning I'd sing out love between my brothers and my sisters All over this land Well I've got a hammer And I've got a bell And I've got a song to sing All over this land It's the hammer of justice It's the bell of freedom It's the song about love between my brothers and my sisters All over this land Regards To ALL those Who Get IT...and who aren't pretending! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 11 Apr 12 - 08:31 PM sorry, its late , the wife is drunk and I'm trying to put her to bed for her own safety and my sanity.. and I've no time yet to read the last 2 or 3 huge posts all the way through.. Don, mudcat as much as I love the fun of this community, its no where near a significant focus in my life.. stalkers and imposters, I assure you, are no more than a bit of a laugh.. if I have to lose a mudcat persona or 2.. no big deal they are expendible. I was , am, still a member.. ad hominem diversions & attacks be buggered idividual identity is not the real issue.. Trust in the integrity of our mods is !!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 11 Apr 12 - 08:47 PM Am I the only person who actually reads and tries to understand every post in a thread that takes my interest..?? surely not ??? Ok, wife is now safely snoring in bed. There are probably 3 or 4 folk here with genuine insight, Would I be vain if I counted myself as 1 of them. We know the games people play the devious divide and rule strategies even just the sheer thick headed loud mouth bully boy brawling for the sake of it distractions.. This thread could have concluded quite satisfactory when Dave the gnome surmised: "It seems to me that everyone agrees. Everyone has the right to complain. The 'management' have the right to moderate. When someone sees 'immoderate moderation' they feel that it should be addressed in some way. What that some way is may be an issue but certainly one that we all agree is prely and simply Max's prerogative. We are now on page 4 and all, seemingly, avidly agreeing with each other as if we were arguing! Very strange." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 11 Apr 12 - 09:01 PM "There are probably 3 or 4 folk here with genuine insight Would I be vain if I counted myself as 1 of them." in this specific thread only. I'm never one for blowing my own trumpet, and re reading that hastily written post makes me cringe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Don Firth Date: 11 Apr 12 - 10:02 PM Oh! Yeah! You're the guy who doesn't know the difference between inches and centimeters. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 11 Apr 12 - 10:07 PM Blimey it's late.. I truly haven't bothered measuring mine since my early 20s But I know how to get the most accurate indisputable clinical measurement if I had to... mudcat challenge - worth starting a new thread !!??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Apr 12 - 10:10 PM I still think the best answer to "why closed threads" is why not. Case in point.................. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Hookey Wole Date: 11 Apr 12 - 10:18 PM Dunno whats going on in my brain tonight but just had a sudden flash back to my student days 3 decades ago "Cultural hegemony is the philosophic and sociological theory, by the Marxist philosopher Antonio Gramsci, that a culturally diverse society can be dominated (ruled) by one social class, by manipulating the societal culture (beliefs, explanations, perceptions, values) so that its ruling-class worldview is imposed as the societal norm, which then is perceived as a universally valid ideology and status quo beneficial to all of society, whilst benefiting only the ruling class" now where are my Gang of 4 CDs.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST Date: 12 Apr 12 - 04:02 AM OK, Hookey Wole , all I can do is tell you that "she" is another iteration of "you know who," a troll who has been plaguing this site for years. No onecan do anything about her. If they delete her messages, it goads her to post more. If they delete her membership, she'll post under another membership. No matter what they do, she can come up with a counter-move. The only thing that can frustrate her, is if we do not respond to her at all...and so I ask you to respond to her with silence instead of giving her the attention she craves. And no matter how distasteful she is, she does serve to express a hateful point of view that is present and increasingly popular in Europe - and in the United States. I'm disgusted with all of you who get so bent out of shape about putative failure to control trolls here. Moderators really try hard to keep trolls under control, and I think they do a better job than a lot of commercial Websites - U.S. newspaper Websites, for example. We do find it's best to do it slowly and quietly and subtly - and with the cooperation of our regular posters. You people dumped all over Joe last year because you couldn't ignore a two-line troll message in the thread - and I'm sick of it. Hell, people threaten to take legal action because of failure to do thus-and-such. [I wonder how far you'd get in a lawsuit against a volunteer moderator.] I just can't understand why you people can't accept the fact that troll messages are part of being on the Internet. This is an imperfect world, and you can't expect every person in it to post according to your specifications. If she posts (under whatever name), leave her posts right where they are. If Mudcatters can't resist responding, then simply close the thread. Now, if that's not good enough, contact Max directly and ask him to develop systems to keep "her" under control. I've contacted Max many times and suggested members-only posting in the non-music section, MAC tracking in addition to IP tracking, and verification of membership by issuing passwords by e-mail. However, that no amount of control is going to work perfectly; and every added control will limit the freedom we've all enjoyed here. But if you don't have what it takes to ignore our trolls, then contact Max and get after him to set up controls. But before this lady, it was Martin Gibson who ran rampant here and feasted on the deliciously self-righteous indignation of Mudcatters. And before him, it was that woman from Minnesota. And no matter what controls Max institutes, there will be other trolls. Therefore, the best solution is to accept it that trolls are a fact of life on the Internet, and learn to ignore them.
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Richard Bridge Date: 12 Apr 12 - 04:43 AM I'm interested in the systems approach. But really the reasons why threads are closed are generally pretty obvious if not always precise. There are exceptions. Some more detailed assertions here seem however to be inconsistent with what is known and/or said elsewhere. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: John MacKenzie Date: 12 Apr 12 - 05:15 AM Sounds like she's studied sociology |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,999 Date: 12 Apr 12 - 06:34 AM "I'm disgusted with all of you who get so bent out of shape about putative failure to control trolls here." And you are . . . ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Megan L Date: 12 Apr 12 - 07:08 AM Why closed threads ? Easy if ye leave them open the jumper unravels its no nice showin yer simmit in public. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: John MacKenzie Date: 12 Apr 12 - 08:08 AM Translations available on request! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,999 Date: 12 Apr 12 - 08:13 AM Och to both Meg and John. I bet if ya wake up at 3:00 am ya talk just like Canadians. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: John MacKenzie Date: 12 Apr 12 - 08:16 AM Well, note the surname my friend. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 12 Apr 12 - 11:11 AM Let's try this again....and it's not insulting to anyone..but been deleted twice...Why? D-u-u-u-h!!..... Why must people look OUTSIDE themselves, to know how to behave and work for the betterment of society, by somebody else's mindset?...especially when the path is laid with deception, and corruption?? Why not just tell the truth?...why not?...because, if you did, you FEAR, that, if you did, people might not really like the end result, of the agenda..Fair enough? Think of it as a large monument, we have to climb, and the 'end result' pinnacle is the 'utopian dream'.....and to make it happen, you scale this difficult monument....BUT, that monument has lies, and deception, hidden agendas, crisscrossing everywhere for which you find yourselves making EXCUSES for....when REASON doesn't work out quite right??? When you get to the top, should you be surprised if the 'utopian prize of the capstone'....was made of anything else??? Love doesn't work, anymore???? Shouldn't we be spreading that...instead of trumped up 'knowledge' with bad science, to back up reasons to have whips cracking on backs...figuratively, ....or physically????......or mentally??....or emotionally??....or even spiritually? All lasting change in culture, comes up from the streets. Music is a wonderful vehicle to convey that, being as it IS a language of it's own. Shit,even nursery rhymes and fairy tales have outlasted the governments that they were protesting about!....I bet you you can remember, say, "Humpty Dumpty', better than what King or country he ruled, that the 'nursery rhyme' was mocking and protesting....(now everyone is scrambling their search engines, to find out if 'that old hunch' was right)....but you didn't forget the rhyme! Blues came up from the streets...Doo-wop...Jazz....Folk...B-Bop...and it finds a common denominator in people's soul. They find 'release' in it...."WHY?"..(that pesky question, again)...release, why?....Because history has show us, through recorded time that REPRESSION NEVER WORKS...and never will last. Never has, never will. ...and 'Why'(?) should never have to be hidden.....unless, of course, one wants to remove your freedom of choosing your own path. If it has 'Love' in it, what threat is it? Thing is, a choice needs to be made.....Music or ideology?...Creativity, or 'talking point parrot speak'? ....and here, of all places, WHY, must differences of opinion get so hostile?....or intimidating to your identity??...and,with 'fear and loathing'??? Are WE ALL afraid, that our 'corner' of a bigger lie will be found out, and you'll be embarrassed?....or not Loved..or worthy of love...because you confused 'love' with 'attention'???...Frankly, I'd think "Far out!...Somebody is saying it..THANK YOU!!!" You're more than welcome....you are not only my brothers and sister...you're my musical brothers and sisters......and you know damn well what I'm saying! 'Don't let your 'friend's' problems be an anchor to your mediocrity.' How can people hear the cry up from the streets, if the passage is muted and blocked with the mindsets THEY GAVE you, to be controlled??...You can bitch, but if you have the need to bitch, we will instruct you on the topics, what you must agree on, and how far to take it..or question any alternative.....so you, and your insights can be contained. like the saying, "If I'd want your opinion, I'll give them to you!" "We only want you to 'talk' about freedom, and freedom of thought..just not have it!" ..and Max??...Shit, I betcha when he pops on the computer, do you think his first question is "I wonder if everybody is properly stroking each other, and things are sweet and 'folksie'.." or "What is the click count?....Hmmm, pretty good, must have a 'hot topic'..Need to check with the advertisers"..........and that's OK! ..but somewhere a long the way, something was either taken for granted, or assumed that intelligent people were content with not wanting to take it further, and grow more. Take it easy guys....OH, and why did you used to close threads?...after all, they don't HAVE to resonate with people, and threaten you....they are only words on a screen............. Regards, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Ebbie Date: 12 Apr 12 - 03:11 PM The writer was determined to publish a book and got a bite from a publishing house. Before the writer finally got the message and desisted, THREE editors had jumped to their deaths. :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: John MacKenzie Date: 12 Apr 12 - 03:16 PM The beatings will continue, until morale improves! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST Date: 12 Apr 12 - 04:19 PM Guest posts are allowed now? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Bill D Date: 12 Apr 12 - 04:24 PM "Guest posts are allowed now?" sorta...kinda....depending.... It ain't easy making a simple rule. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: GUEST Date: 12 Apr 12 - 04:41 PM I really don't enjoy pointing out the fact that 99% of deleted posts and approx 90% of threads closures are actually from British catters. The problems en't at our side of the pond. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: John MacKenzie Date: 12 Apr 12 - 04:54 PM Now that's trolling at it's finest. IGNORE!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Greg F. Date: 12 Apr 12 - 06:23 PM You betcha. Its obviously an anti-United Kingdom bias. Gimmie shelter........ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: Bill D Date: 12 Apr 12 - 06:26 PM 99%?? 90%?? Such dedicated research |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads? From: gnu Date: 12 Apr 12 - 06:30 PM Excuse me... are you closed? I was hoping to get a post on my way home to ease my travels. |
