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BS: Why closed threads?

GUEST,Guest from Sanity 14 Apr 12 - 04:35 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 14 Apr 12 - 04:36 AM
GUEST,Bluesman 14 Apr 12 - 04:40 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 14 Apr 12 - 04:52 AM
GUEST,Bluesman 14 Apr 12 - 05:04 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 14 Apr 12 - 05:12 AM
GUEST,Lizzie Cornish 14 Apr 12 - 05:17 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 14 Apr 12 - 05:24 AM
GUEST,Bluesman 14 Apr 12 - 05:33 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 14 Apr 12 - 05:42 AM
GUEST,Bluesman 14 Apr 12 - 05:52 AM
GUEST,Lizzie Cornish 14 Apr 12 - 05:57 AM
John MacKenzie 14 Apr 12 - 06:21 AM
GUEST,Bluesman 14 Apr 12 - 06:31 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 14 Apr 12 - 06:36 AM
GUEST,Bluesman 14 Apr 12 - 06:40 AM
Max 14 Apr 12 - 08:04 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 04:35 AM

Huh?? which woman??
I'm already up on links here....doesn't matter. I DON'T have a political agenda....just a musical one.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 04:36 AM

....and what kind of sites??

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 04:40 AM

The recent arrival to this thread, has issues.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 04:52 AM

Well, she came to the right place! There's plenty of company!!

Personal relationship dynamics??....or a political scum?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:04 AM

I have been on the receiving end of her abuse, believe me not pleasant, lucky I am a thick skinned kinda guy. A click on the name can reveal much. Surprised you never had the pleasure her acquaintance.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:12 AM

She's probably the lucky one!!....I can hold my own....

You in the UK?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:17 AM

"She's probably the lucky one!!....I can hold my own...."


Yes, GfS, wankers usually do, so I've heard....

And as far as 'the websites' I'm on, apart from Facebook, I ain't on any...OFFICIALLY that is, although the bloke you're sucking up to, if you'll pardon the expression makes loads of pages in my name which he sticks all over the place...He does this to others too on mudcat..

May I politely suggest you both 'hold your own' together...

Thank you


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:24 AM

Oh hi, Lizzy.
"Why?' Do you guys do whatever you do to each other?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:33 AM

GfS,I think you now see what I spoke of. I tend to ignore these unfounded unproven allegations. Let's get the stated subject of this thread back on track and ignore the interruptions. I make allowances for some people, you never know the personal circumstances or hardship of their troubled minds.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:42 AM

yeah, We've bumped into each other a few times. sometimes she pops off with a good line...sometimes not too slick..but all in all, we haven't 'exchanged' much. Though sometimes I don't tend to agree with all 'persuasions' and sometimes she goes with the crowd...she's usually been polite to me.....maybe another universe of 'political opinions' but jeez, that seems to be pretty prevalent on here.

Nonetheless, I'm cool with both of you ..I think....

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:52 AM

Yes I am in the UK, Originally from Hertfordshire, moved recently to property I own in Medway to oversee a sizable renovation and building project my son undertook in Chatham. More or less there to keep an eye on things. Nice part of the country.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 05:57 AM

Yup...Mark, from Kent...

Hey DO put a video up, old chap and let's see you, shall we? Of course, there's no way we'd know if it is you, but I just thought I'd put the suggestion out there..

GfS...I never 'go with the crowd'..Thank you...and now, I'll leave you to get along with your new found buddie..


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 06:21 AM

As a lightning conductor, this thread is working very well.
God bless Ben Franklin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 06:31 AM

It may help if the reason for closing a thread is explained at the end of it by the moderator. Giving the reason, either the thread has degenerated from being anything useful other than for flaming and name calling, or it is a thread that has a duplicate already on the site.

I am as guilty as any for drifting too much off topic. Most threads I have been involved in usually consist of constructive criticism.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 06:36 AM

Hey, I'm goin' to crash...............
G' night...

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 06:40 AM

Sleep well.
Keith.


This thread is taking a "time out." It may be reopened later today. Why, you ask? Name calling, trolling, and baiting trolls. No one who has read this far down on this juggernaut is innocent of the facts at hand. --Mudelf


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Subject: RE: BS: Why closed threads?
From: Max
Date: 14 Apr 12 - 08:04 PM

There is more for me to review before I fully engage this delightful conversation, but I just wanted to quickly remind all of you that we do not owe you an explanation. Or anything else for that matter.

You see, what happens here, in most of these threads in questions, is a recreational activity known as rhetoric. One sees something on the news or pulls something right from their ass and declares "I contend that this is thus." not because they necessarily do believe that this is thus, but it marks the start of an instance of the game. Think high school debate class. I once successfully argued and won a debate FOR slavery. Please note that me being the better participant does not change the ethics or truth surrounding the issue of slavery.

So when I am asked to give an explanation for why we do the things we do, I am hearing "Come play the game with us."

Now, I am not saying that is what you did here John P, but it delights the players who ready to pick apart our words looking for inconsistencies and duplicity, weakness or other exploitation of policy for a forum built by a 23 year old kid about traditional music, not international politics.

We simply don't have time to play. We're sorry. We are musicologists, enthusiasts, historians and folklorists trying to do research and provide accessibility and preservation here. We're NOT trained, educated, certified or qualified as ideologues, referees, debate coaches or forum moderators and we're doing the best we can towards a goal none of you are even considering.

I actually specifically and strategically obfuscate our policies, finances, procedures, organization structure, tactics, goals and purpose, just so the players are not empowered to fight stupidly with their fine host.

Since no one in their right mind would finance the BS section, it is provided as a luxury by me. I host it and pay for it and defend its existence from my own volunteers and mentors let alone members and guests. I was taught that folklore and tradition cannot be separated from the community in which it is shared, so the BS section was the host of the non-music portion of that community that could later be referenced for personality and perspectives archived in the music section.

Hopefully I have lived a life, participated in my community and generally been visible enough so that if in 100 years someone stumbles over my successful bid for slavery, even though all those words they held in their hands expertly and positively stated such, there will be enough laying about that they'll know that I, me the person, the human being, did not WANT slavery to be allowed.

However, as it is, fewer and fewer folks are agreeing with me about the BS section and Guest Posting, and I am losing patience myself.

Folks like Bluesman are simply cheating at the game by being anonymous they have no accountability therefore anyone of any merit would disqualify every single one of his statements, yet I see fine fine people being worked into a frenzy and the whole lot of us being dragged through the mud for it. There are no consequences for an anonymous man to be wrong, or an idiot.

Bluesman is playing a different game, however, he believes in nothing other than the opposite of what you most strongly do. So with no consequences to his person or reputation possible, he aggressively argues his side, for which we are clear by his anonymity that he is ashamed of. That is cowardice and its defense mechanism on display, for which I feel pathetic and experience pity rather than anger when he speaks. His aim is to make you be willing to publicly humiliate yourself, lose all candor, expose your dogma, be irrational, express anger so that you end up with equal and opposite extreme paths and viewpoints to his radical ideologies game-starting-contentions.

So, in summary, BS threads are a luxury not a right. They are provided and financed by me... you are welcome. We close them when we see something that concerns us. PERIOD. This is not a democracy, we will not open this for public debate. We are sure in our path and sure we are doing right because we are audited yearly by Karma Guard (tm). We have a well respected system of checks and balances and have scored "righteous" on each of the last 5 Karma Analysis with our policies and practices. That's the most we can offer you as reassurance that we are thoughtful, fair, up and up, not slanted, no favoritism, no cultural, political, religious or gender bias within our moderation practices. We work harder at it that you could possibly imagine and strive to get better at it every day. We mourn every single edit, deletion, closure, and interjection and always attempt a human solution over an authoritative or technical one.

It's just that not all of you are human.

And I must admit. I absolutely love and am endlessly amused at the absurd brilliance of this thread being closed.

more soon. ~max


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