BS: Is there any merit to creationism?

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 07:59 AM

One of the more fascinating aspects of Christian Folklore concerns the Noah's Ark Drogue Stones as well as the various claims over The Ark itself.

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 08:17 AM

Thank you, Amos.

I believe that my posts earlier match at least one of your "creative" scenarios.

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 08:42 AM

Which one would that be, Bruce?

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 08:52 AM

The question is whether to take God's Word ( facts as shown by the real universe) or the written words of human beings as the truth- Where the written words are the Bible.

….Even the EARLIEST written copies were

1. written down long after the original enlightenment by God of the original person
2. filtered throughout the understanding and language of a specific people and culture.

Science is the art of trying to understand God's Word in the facts of the universe, rather than accepting a translation by humans of a human's interpretation of what someone generations before had understood God to say.

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 09:00 AM

Science is the art of trying to understand God's Word

You really don't see how ridiculous that is, do you?

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 09:08 AM

Where God's Word is the FACTS of the universe, rather than the text that people pro port to give it to us.

Try to comprehend something instead of attacking based on who is saying it.

I am stating that SCIENCE is the search for Truth, and is a far better road to the "Creative Force" than the text of any religion.

What part of that do you take exception to ???????

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 09:11 AM

"God's Word" has nothing to do with the facts of the universe, or with science.

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 09:19 AM

Kind of like having a zombie chihuahua chasing you everywhere...

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 09:22 AM

Gee, Jeri - do I need your permission to comment on topic? How do I apply for your approval?

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 09:25 AM

GregF,

Try to read for comprehension.

I have stated that

"God's Word ( facts as shown by the real universe) "

What part of this simple statement do you not comprehend???



GregF.:""God's Word" has nothing to do with the facts of the universe, or with science."

What do YOU define "God's Word" to be, and why do you insist that the rest of us agree with your definition????

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 09:29 AM

You can state that "Gods Word" is smoked whitefish, Bruce, but that don't make it so.

I define "God's Word" as a pernicious faiytale.

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 09:35 AM

You can define "God's Word" as a pernicious fairytale, GregF., but that don't make it so.


So why do you place your definition above the rest of the world's?

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 09:52 AM

"MY" definition above the rest of the world's? I'm the only one?

Get a grip, man.

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 09:56 AM

GregF,

I have stated MY OPINION of what I think "God's Word" is.

YOU have insisted on what YOU define as "God's Word" to be the only one allowed.


I think YOU need to get a grip, a life, and some sense.

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 09:56 AM

Kind of like having a zombie chihuahua chasing you everywhere...

Reminds of...

The Word of God

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: Stu
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 09:59 AM

"If there is no creative vector at all, then the entire gamut of existence in our known space-time framework was a complex chain of effects without an initial cause, apparently."

It had a cause, just one we don't understand yet. Ascribing that to some supernatural being is creationism by another name, pure and simple . . . unless evidence is found to the contrary of course.


"God's Word ( facts as shown by the real universe)"

You're invoking a God where there is zero evidence of one, however if this is a simple turn of phrase then it's a rather unfortunate one, because some people believe in no god or one god or some gods or many gods or spirits of place or ancestors etc etc

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 10:07 AM

YOU have insisted on what YOU define as "God's Word" to be the only one allowed.

Where, exactly, did I do that? Tweak your meds again, Bruce.

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 10:16 AM

Then you had best further explain your comments of 01 Apr 14 - 09:29 AM .

You seem to be defining FOR ME what a phrase I am using HAS TO MEAN.

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 10:55 AM

See Stu, above. And tweak your meds.

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 11:02 AM

See my posts previously, learn to read, and get a life.

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 11:02 AM

Oh and Bruce: You seem to be channeling Humpty Dumpty.

Subject: RE: BS: Is there any merit to creationism?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Apr 14 - 11:07 AM

GregF,

Have you run out of duct-tape for the guinea pigs again?