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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 30 Sep 11 - 04:35 PM Too bad there aren't any little cream pies available here. We could throw them at each other whenever we don't agree about politics or religion or fashion footwear. ;-D It's a harmless way of reducing tension, and you can eat the after-battle debris. Remember the movie "Bugsy Malone"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 30 Sep 11 - 04:42 PM Say, Don, I think you just got the 100th post, and you were so modest and self-effacing as to not even mention it! |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 30 Sep 11 - 05:40 PM Just consider these threads cyber-cream-pies, LH... Splat!!! Opps... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Oct 11 - 12:56 AM ARGHH! (wiping banana cream filling out of eyes...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 01 Oct 11 - 01:38 AM Don firth: "And, Ake, how do YOU know what my "dogma" is? You, too, are dealing in stereotypes and pigeon-hole thinking." It's OK, Ake, 'My Karma just ran over his dogma!' ..and now a word from our sponsor.... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Don Firth Date: 01 Oct 11 - 01:56 AM Hah! Missed me! Grrrrrrrr! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 01 Oct 11 - 02:08 AM oh yeah???? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 01 Oct 11 - 02:13 AM ..and one for Bobert...note the fingers! Songwronger, hope you're still there....When you pick up your ax again, you WILL not be discouraged! (I'll help ya') GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 01 Oct 11 - 02:30 AM ..for Songwronger...how you ax must feel........cheer it up! You'll get it back! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 01 Oct 11 - 08:58 AM I liked the Derrick Trucks one... He's a fine player... His right hand is more fun to watch than his left... MO, of course... It's kinda my style to pickin', too... Kinda a modified claw hammer... The Prince solo??? I mean, yeah, it's decent but not the greatest... I can think of other folks who have laid down some fine solos over the years equal to or better... Eric Clapton, Leslie West, Stevie Ray, etc... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Oct 11 - 12:50 PM I love that clip. They're all doing a superb job, the singing is right on, and that rich wall of sound they generate is really something to hear...just keeps building. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Don Firth Date: 01 Oct 11 - 02:04 PM Gotta do better than that, GoofuS. I have SuperPowers!! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Oct 11 - 02:07 PM Nice. ;-D |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: gnu Date: 01 Oct 11 - 04:40 PM Prince is FAR underrated by most. He is a musical genius who transcends many genres. His gospel stuff is beyond amazing. Having said that, he is no "winning" match for Knofler, BB... hey... it's all a dumb "contest" when ya start any contest. Now, ya think he/anyone could best these guys? on a geetar? |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: gnu Date: 01 Oct 11 - 04:56 PM Oh, yeah... GfS... thanks for the links! Good stuff! |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Oct 11 - 05:24 PM Prince is very, very good. My favorite guitarist, however, is Mark Knopfler. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Stringsinger Date: 01 Oct 11 - 06:52 PM The problem with Obama now is that he has taken the prerogative of killing American citizens without due process (habeas corpus) which violates the Constitution, violated by a Constitutional scholar. This is an extremely bad precedent for the Executive Branch of our government. I never said however that Obama was voted in because he was Black. That mischaracterizes what I said. It was a contributing factor, not the only one. Obama had the skills to govern. He has made some wrong choices. A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Libertarian principles which are bound to fail because they don't really address the needs of the American public. They protect the wealthy, which is what Paul would do, at the expense of stealing from the public (tax cuts). In destroying government and suggesting that corporations are more capable of incorruptibility is truly laughable, they are the most corrupt element of what's left of government today. They own it. Ron Paul would destroy the public sector and establish an anarchic non-governmental state whereby the only governing body that he would end up supporting would be the US military, this, in spite of his protestations, legitimately claimed, against these meaningless wars. Why the military? It is the only authoritative governing body left outside of the shambles of democracy. The Egyptians made this mistake, they pay for it by being confronted by their military which squelches their democracy. To change the economic system in the US, so-called "free trade" must be abolished in order to reign in the transnational corporations that are no longer in America's best interest. Tariffs must be reintroduce to protect unions and the American worker in conjunction with rebuilding American industry. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 01 Oct 11 - 06:58 PM I didn't vote for Obama. I voted for the best candidate in 2008. Me. Nevertheless, I did not win, but that was because it takes time fer the public to awaken to a radical new approach like I am offerin'. Great visionaries are never accepted early...but they win in the long run as folks catch on to what they are sayin' and realize that the time for REAL change is finally at hand! And that is gonna happen soon. You are gonna see a chimp in the White House very soon. You are gonna see big bankers arrested, jailed, and tried for defraudin' the country and destroyin' the world economy. You are gonna see corporate CEOs payin' a bigger percent of their bloated income in taxes than anyone else does, and not gettin' no more huge yearly bonuses for doin' hostile takeovers that destroy jobs. You are gonna see ALL the troops brought home to THIS country where they friggin' belong, the jobs brought home too, and you are gonna see massive job creation as our swords are beaten into ploughshares. You are gonna see not ONE more damned atomic bomb built in this country, ever! We got way too many of the damn things already. You are gonna see zoo animals given free choice to either move back to the wilds where they came from...or integrate into regular society and get Social Security Numbers, apartments, and job training. You are gonna see fresh organic bananas available all year round and agri-business made to stop usin' pesticides and start usin' natural methods of growin' healthy plants and maintainin' healthy topsoil. You are gonna see an end to corporate factory farms that enslave drugged animals in horrible over-crowded conditions, and a return to traditional small farming where the animals get to live outside and eat their real natural food like they used to back before WWII. You are gonna see Sarah Palin hostin' a daytime TV entertainment & fasion show (kinda like Oprah) so she don't endanger the political process no further, but she can still have some fun, earn good money, and be famous. You are gonna see free and equal health care for all...paid for by cutting the friggin' annual military budget by about 60%. We need enough military to adequately defend ourselves. We sure as hell don't need enough to dominate and terrorize the rest of the world and invade and occupy 3 or 4 small countries every now and then. You are gonna see Guantanamo given back to Cuba, and Alcatraz re-opened for bankers. You are gonna see outright Total War waged on "THE MAN" (by which I mean the big corporate fat cats, Big Pharma, the oil companies, the Federal Reserve Bank, etc) and the beginning of the 2nd American Revolution...of the people, by the people, for the people. And this time I will lead it. Just watch me. - Chongo |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Stringsinger Date: 01 Oct 11 - 07:01 PM Back to the Washington Moonie Times, No legitimate impeachment could take place unless it includes Bush and Cheney for war crimes (Iraq, water-boarding) and the idea that Rep. Darrell Issa, California Republican is an honest broker presiding with his past corruption and criminal activity is another canard. Also, Clarence Thomas should be impeached for his transgressions in the financial dealings with the Tea Party and the Heritage Foundation (you won't read that in the Moonie Times). The Occupy Wall Street movement is the most promising historical event that we have today. Obama has to respond to this if he is to be re-elected. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 01 Oct 11 - 07:50 PM Yeah, the impeachment (not removal) of Bill Clinton served the Repubs well... In doing it they pissed off the American people who didn't want Congress to spend time playing games... The along comes the most impeachable president since, ahhhh, forever but the Dems would have been accused of trying to get back for the Clinton impeachment so Bush got away with murder... Make that lots of murders... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 01 Oct 11 - 09:22 PM Actually, the guitarist that has blown MY mind as of the last couple of years was only 14 years old when he filmed this, on his web cam.....and he's got a bunch of them..some original some not....but an ass-kicker none the less! OK, Folks......Matt Rach! Enjoy(?) Grinning! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 01 Oct 11 - 09:28 PM Oh, by the way, he plays ALL the other instruments, and plays 'live' over the accompanying tracks! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guuest from Sanity Date: 01 Oct 11 - 10:52 PM Ohh YEAHHH???? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 01 Oct 11 - 10:57 PM Yeah, we need to put Bush back in office for a day so we can impeach to murderer... Not in the mood for more YouTube... Time for all good Americans to quit the ballgames and call the Tea Party for what they are doing: trying to destroy America by blaming the wrong folks for the wrong stuff... B~b |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 01 Oct 11 - 11:02 PM Hey Bobert, The Tea party thread is just next to this one! This one is "I voted for Obama, but..." But What??..SURPRISE SURPRISE! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Josepp Date: 02 Oct 11 - 11:10 AM GfS, If you want to be taken seriously, find credible news sources. The Washington Times?? You DO know who founded and owns the Washington Times, right? |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 02 Oct 11 - 06:39 PM Lemme guess... Reverend Sun Moon??? Never mind... I knew that already... This is not a newspaper anymore than FOX news is a news station... Pure commentary... No news... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Don Firth Date: 02 Oct 11 - 06:54 PM A lot of us have known that for a long time, GfS. Where have YOU been? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 03 Oct 11 - 01:54 AM Here we go...AGAIN...Jeez, I thought this was addressed already...I mean, the question should be, "Is the story true or not?" So let's re-visit the reply: ..Though I answered so other silliness as well.... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,josepp Date: 03 Oct 11 - 12:03 PM If the story is true, find it in a credible new source. Just sayin'... |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 03 Oct 11 - 12:30 PM I would've voted for Obama back in 2008...if I was an American. I would've figured him a far better choice than McCain. However...I would have been mightily bothered by how the Democratic Party shut Dennis Kucinich out of the later TV debates and made sure that his message was pretty much screened out of mainstream media, since it was so embarrassing to all the other Democratic frontrunners. And I would have been mightily bothered by Obama's evident enthusiasm for continuing a pointless war in Afghanistan. And I would have waited with a mixture of hope and trepidation to see what Obama would do once in office...hoping that he might actually turn things around...fearing that he wouldn't. And I would have been VERY disappointed by what he did do once in office as the last 3 years of folly unfolded! And I would have thought, "Well, still probably better than McCain. But what a friggin' mess this is!" Which just goes to show, no matter which one of those parties you elect, you wind up with the same corporate disease right back in office, the same foreign wars, the same payoffs and financial chicanery, the same lies and propaganda and ripoffs and deceit....but a different presidential "face" out front yapping about it behind a bunch of microphones. I think Obama may be a nice guy, certainly an intelligent guy...but he's working for a criminal system, and he's doing what that system requires of him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Don Firth Date: 03 Oct 11 - 01:38 PM Serious question, Little Hawk. It's one thing to say, "The whole system is corrupt. No matter what you do, it will STILL be corrupt1" Then throw up you hands and head for the nearest bar. But it's something else to stiffen your spine, put your foot down, and say, "This has got to change!" You keep saying the former. Lots of people here on these threads keep saying that. That's mere observation. Easy to stroke your chin, say nothing beyond the obvious, and sound like you're very erudite. BUT-- Do you, or for that matter, GfS, have any suggestions as what Americans can do--should do--to change the situation? And let's keep it realistic, okay? It's easy enough to say, "Elect Dennis Kucinich president," but we've tried that. No go! So. Let's hear what you've got. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: akenaton Date: 03 Oct 11 - 01:50 PM Thats right Hawk, its really very simple stuff, wonder why folks get so wound up in the divisiveness? It cant be lack of brains...look at the people we have here, most well educated, some with degrees, thinking like pre school childred.....why is that? have they got a stake in the system, or is it just bloody mindedness? Its the same MO on every issue, they seem to be unable to see beyond their self constructed barriers and discuss a subject objectively. Its about something which does not really exist, the vision of EQUALITY, every issue is weighed against that word regrardless of the rights and wrongs. And its never about real equality....which I've said, does not and never will exist.....its about an etherial idea. Another distraction. G f S.....I loved your last post funny and right on the nail!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: akenaton Date: 03 Oct 11 - 01:54 PM Don....no one can change anything on their own.......the very first thing one has to do, is admit to yourself that the system is in fact the problem, and can never be the answer.....then change may come.....slowly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Don Firth Date: 03 Oct 11 - 01:59 PM Obvious, Ake. I was hoping for something better. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: akenaton Date: 03 Oct 11 - 02:22 PM That may seem obvious and simple but there are many who cling on in the hope that "something will turn up"....maybe you are one of them? and of course there are millions who will lose a little.....a very little, by real change......Regardless of the politician's buzz words most people are terrified of change, thats why the politicos know that they will never need to fulfill their promises. Its about changing our perceptions first and foremost and that will take more than one generation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 03 Oct 11 - 03:34 PM What you choose to do about it, being an American, is up to you, Don. Anything you can come up with is fine with me. I'm sure there are a number of possible alternatives, and I am not suggesting you throw your hands up in the air, give up, and go out to the bar and get drunk. ;-) I'm not an American. What I chose to do about it way back in 1969 was to move the hell out of the USA and back to Canada. But I am Canadian, so that puts me in a different position than you're in. If I was an American citizen, I'd probably still be in the USA. If I was, I would support independently minded types like Dennis Kucinich whatever way I could. I'd make financial contributions to his campaign funding. I'd look with deep skepticism on the present party system and work toward something quite different...such as a no-party system, for example. In 2008 I would have voted for Obama as the lesser of two evils, and I would have protested his decisions to bail out the banks, continue the Afghan war, and bring in a health care plan that was mostly a give-away to the private health insurance industry. In saying that the system is corrupt, which it is, I am not saying you should do nothing about it....I'm saying you should do whatever little you can to uncover that corruption and object to it, and propose alternative approaches. Heck, do whatever you can. That's entirely up to you. ***** Ultimately though, Don, I see life as a spiritual journey. That's a personal and individual journey, okay? It has mostly to do with self-development, inner work, improving oneself, overcoming fear, unlocking the heart, learing to love. Politics is part of the outer stuff that goes on in society. It's ephemeral. It's like bubbles on the surface of the river, rising and vanishing. I am interested in politics...to an extent...but I'm far more interested in transforming myself through inner work than I am in whatever the hell is going on in the world of politics...a world which is usually deeply compromised by various competitive and ruthless power groups who are out for their own material gain. I don't frankly expect to be able to do much about that. The only thing in this world that I have full jurisdiction over is myself...and that's where my real work lies. My real work is to master and improve myself as a living, conscious being. If you feel that your real work (or part of it) lies in reforming the American political system, then I wish you the very best in doing so, and by all means, do it any way you can figure to do it. Joan Baez, whom I greatly admire, has devoted her whole life to that cause, and I think well of her for doing so. Dennis Kucinich appears to be doing the same, and I applaud him for it. He has to have a lot of courage to be doing what he's doing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Don Firth Date: 03 Oct 11 - 08:03 PM All of which I know, of course. But thanks. Have worked at it. Still am. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Songwronger Date: 03 Oct 11 - 08:42 PM Killing Anwar al-Awlaki isn't a feather in Obama's cap. Al-Awlaki was an American citizen. Obama publicly targeted an American citizen for assassination. A first for a U.S. president, if I'm not mistaken. Obama also said he didn't need congressional approval to wage war in Libya. Illegal. Obama was an obvious Wall Street puppet when he ran for the presidency, but many voters chose him over McCain because of the war issue. Obama has betrayed us on that issue. He's an even greater warmonger than George W. Bush. Obama has disappointed on so many fronts. Operation Fast and Furious. Gunrunning to Mexico, resulting in the deaths of U.S. agents and no telling how many citizens in the U.S. and Mexico. Obama's Department of Justice helped initiate the fiasco. It will probably be his Watergate. Social Security. Obama was the first president to put it on the table in discussions over budget cuts. His supporters said the Tea Party made him do it, but come on. He's the president. He didn't have to do it. Obama has virtually killed NASA's manned space flight program. On and on. I voted for Obama, but...I have a bunch of issues with him. On the bright side, Ralph Nader has just endorsed Ron Paul. More or less. Looks like a full endorsement is coming. Bravo for Nader. I guess since Democrats aren't going to challenge Obama, Nader wants to throw his weight behind a true agent for change. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 03 Oct 11 - 09:02 PM Reality 101: First... No president since Lincoln has seen more opposition push back what Obama has had... The opposition party has made it clear that they have no interest in governing... Their only goal is ridding the US of a black president... Period... Every policy that Obama has put in place is Republican yet we have all these rabid haters calling him a socialist??? Second, Obama has done all he could do against the head wind and the major BIG MEDIA advantage that the right has... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Songwronger Date: 03 Oct 11 - 10:13 PM Every policy that Obama has put in place is Republican yet we have all these rabid haters calling him a socialist That's very perceptive. Obvious mislabeling for political purposes. If you can see that, why can't you see through the racism gambit? It's just another divisive ploy. Is Ralph Nader racist because he prefers Ron Paul to Obama? Am I racist because I question what Obama has done as president? I've come to dislike him because he lied to the country about his intentions. And he just openly assassinated an American citizen. Those actions speak to the content of his character, not the color of his skin. Obama needs to be replaced. The Democrats need to step up and deal with the issue. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 03 Oct 11 - 10:19 PM Had a white Democrat been elected president in 2008 would we have seen this level of opposition??? I doubt it... No, make that, I seriously doubt it... The Tea Party is "Exhibit A"... Where did they come from??? Pretty much the same folks who's daddies or grand daddies were Klansman... Reality 101... |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 03 Oct 11 - 11:39 PM I think you would see this level of opposition if the Democrats had elected a white guy, Bobert. What the Republicans are up to is what they are always up to...trying to destroy the Democratic presidency. It was the same when Clinton was president. It's the mirror image, of course, of what Democrats do when there's a Republican president...they try to destroy the Republican presidency. The fact that Obama is "black" is convenient for Republican idealogues simply because that's one more thing that they can use to scare a certain part of their constituency...but it's not the real reason they are out to destroy him. The real reason is merely that he's a Democrat. The fact that he's "black" just gives them one more target to fire at, that's all. If he was unmarried, they'd have another. If he was a known atheist, they'd have another. If he was gay, they'd have yet another! ;-) (But that ain't gonna happen in US politics for some time yet, in my opinion.) Look, any excuse will do, okay? The primary purpose of the Republican Party is to destroy the Democratic Party and gain power. The primary purpose of the Democratic Party is to destroy the Republican Party and gain power. This does not help the country, simply because, as Lincoln said: "A house divided against itself cannot stand." !!!! The USA is a house permanently and bitterly divided against itself by a bipartisan divide that has gone terminally mad, in my opinion, and that's why I would prefer to see both of those parties abolished for good, no more parties created in their place, simply a large slate of independent candidates running for office in every riding, and a national legislature formed from those candidates elected...and not a divided legislature! A single body of many individuals with many different ideas. This would be a very different system, however, from the present one, and I have no expectation at all that it will happen anytime in the near future. There's too big an investment in maintaining the status quo, and most people don't even realize that there are any alternatives to it.....just as most people didn't realize a few hundred years ago that there was any alternative to rule by hereditary monarchs. They'd grown up with it, they believed in it implicitly, they were loyal to it, they thought it was the only way to go, and they fought in its defense without question. Such is the case now with our party-driven divisive political systems. People take them for granted. They think it's the only way to go. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Oct 11 - 12:49 AM Oh Bobert! You and your stupid rants about the ONLY reason people don't like Obama, is because he is black!...That is just plain STUPID! Did it ever occur to you that maybe people don't like him, because he's a shitty president who lies too much, and makes asinine excuses for EVERYTHING that he is incapable of dealing with.. effectively! Based on YOUR argument, I think I'll vote for Cain...he's blacker! Now you tell me why you don't like Cain..........................then I get to bitch at you, because YOU'RE racist! My turn! Jeez! GfS P.S. Is the point occurring to you yet? I'll post about the other ones later..I'm buried in studio work....love you all...especially the racist, bigots and slur-bitches! |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Oct 11 - 03:42 AM Oh well, lookie here: Below is just an excerpt from writer Alexander Higgins article titled "The Wall Street 'Pentagon Papers' Biggest Scam in World History Exposed" I recommend you go to the link and read the entire article in order that you will have some understanding of the crimes perpetrated by the bankster fraudsters, and pass this on to your contacts. Perhaps if more people have even a small understanding of what has been, and is still, going on, the "Occupy Wall Street" protest movement, may grow legs and become a pivotal point in saving what is left of the middle class and taking our country back from the thieving bankster crooks. And by the way, we all have Senator Bernie Sanders, and a few others, to thank, for tirelessly pushing against strong opposition, and forcing the audit, that revealed the depth of treachery at the Federal Reserve. http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/07/28/wall-street-pentagon-papers-biggest-scam-world-history-exposed-federal-reserves-crimes-big-comprehend-44631/ I've written many reports detailing the crimes of Wall Street during this crisis. The level of fraud, from top to bottom, has been staggering. The lack of accountability and the complete disregard for the rule of law have made me and many of my colleagues extremely cynical and jaded when it comes to new evidence to pile on top of the mountain that we have already gathered. But we must not let our cynicism cloud our vision on the details within this new information. Just when I thought the banksters couldn't possibly shock me anymore… they did. We were finally granted the honor and privilege of finding out the specifics, a limited one-time Federal Reserve view, of a secret taxpayer funded "backdoor bailout" by a small group of unelected bankers. This data release reveals "emergency lending programs" that doled out $12.3 TRILLION in taxpayer money – $3.3 trillion in liquidity, $9 trillion in "other financial arrangements." Wait, what? Did you say $12.3 TRILLION tax dollars were thrown around in secrecy by unelected bankers… and Congress didn't know any of the details? Yes. The Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves. The original copy of the Constitution spontaneously burst into flames. The ghost of Tom Paine went running, stark raving mad screaming through the halls of Congress. The Federal Reserve was secretly throwing around our money in unprecedented fashion, and it wasn't just to the usual suspects like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Citigroup, Bank of America, etc.; it was to the entire Global Banking Cartel. To central banks throughout the world: Australia, Denmark, Japan, Mexico, Norway, South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, England… To the Fed's foreign primary dealers like Credit Suisse (Switzerland), Deutsche Bank (Germany), Royal Bank of Scotland (U.K.), Barclays (U.K.), BNP Paribas (France)… All their Ponzi players were "gifted." All the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations got their cut. Talk about the ransacking and burning of Rome! Sayonara American middle class… If you still had any question as to whether or not the United States is now the world's preeminent banana republic, the final verdict was just delivered and the decision was unanimous. The ayes have it. Any fairytale notions that we are living in a nation built on the rule of law and of the global economy being based on free market principles has now been exposed as just that, a fairytale. This moment is equivalent to everyone in Vatican City being told, by the Pope, that God is dead. I've been arguing for years that the market is rigged and that the major Wall Street firms are elaborate Ponzi schemes, as have many other people who built their beliefs on rational thought, reasoned logic and evidence. We already came to this conclusion by doing the research and connecting the dots. But now, even our strongest skeptics and the most ardent Wall Street supporters have it all laid out in front of them, on FEDERAL RESERVE SPREADSHEETS. Even the Financial Times, which named Lloyd Blankfein its 2009 person of the year, reacted by reporting this: "The initial reactions were shock at the breadth of lending, particularly to foreign firms. But the details paint a bleaker and even more disturbing picture." Yes, the emperor doesn't have any clothes. God is, indeed, dead. But, for the moment at least, the illusion continues to hold power. How is this possible? To start with, as always, the US television "news" media (propaganda) networks just glossed over the whole thing – nothing to see here, just move along, back after a message from our sponsors… Other than that obvious reason, I've come to the realization that the Federal Reserve's crimes are so big, so huge in scale, it is very hard for people to even wrap their head around it and comprehend what has happened here. Think about it. In just this one peek we got at its operations, we learned that the Fed doled out $12.3 trillion in near-zero interest loans, without Congressional input. ....... Go to link to read more. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Oct 11 - 03:59 AM General Electric is planning to move its 115-year-old X-ray division from Waukesha , Wis. , to Beijing . In addition to moving the headquarters, the company will invest $2 billion in China and train more than 65 engineers and create six research centers. This is the same GE that made $5.1 billion in the United States last year. but paid no taxes-the same company that employs more people overseas than it does in the united States . So let me get this straight. President Obama appointed GE Chairman Jeff Immelt to head his commission on job creation (job czar). Immelt is supposed to help create jobs. I guess the President forgot to tell him in which country he was supposed to be creating those jobs. If this doesn't show you the total lack of leadership of this President, I don't know what does. Please pass this information to others and think about it before you buy a GE product. It really shows the complete take over of our democratic government by corporates and banksters. Until we reverse the criminal Supreme Court, Citizens United decision, that holds that corporations are people and money is speech, and fund election campaigns with public money, to stop the corporate and bankster crooks from corrupting our elected officials, we will continue to be subjected to policies that serve the best interests of the biggest crooks, rather than the people, of this country. Just so you know, Justices Kennedy, Roberts, Alito, Scalia and Thomas, were the 5 that held for the decision. Justices Stevens, Ginsburg, Breyer and Sotomayor, held against. This decision allows corporations, even foreign owned multi-national corporations, from pouring unlimited, unaccounted, and unattributed monies into our political system to influence voters not just in elections, but also in referendums. They can purchase 100's of millions of dollars worth of commercial advertising to promote a candidate or a bill or destroy a candidate or bill. If any further rigging were required, the above criminal activity can be combined with the fact that we are increasingly adopting electronic voting machines that have been repeatedly and publicly hacked in demonstrations, in as little as 15 minutes. But since the machines themselves are controlled by corporations, the hacking factor is pretty much redundant. No other democratic country uses them, for this reason. Might be worth considering the factors in play, by which we insist on using them. In short, big money owns us lock, stock and barrel. And if big money determines slaves overseas should do our jobs, then that's the way it's going to be. But don't worry when Americans get desperate enough to work for SFA (Sweet F**k All) then the corporate assholes might just bring some jobs back here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,999 Date: 04 Oct 11 - 05:06 AM 'the "Occupy Wall Street" protest movement, may grow legs and become a pivotal point in saving what is left of the middle class and taking our country back from the thieving bankster crooks.' This seems to fly in the face of your post to the Wall Street Protesters thread. Which is it? You denigrated their efforts by being offensive. This is what you wrote on that thread: "I looked at all the visual 'news' media footage I could check out, and this is what I came up with.... ..a bunch of young punks, who don't know jack shit about what they are doing, but have been whipped up by some manipulating shills, pretending to care. Anything to get Americans to immolate, the uprisings we see on the news, in the Mideast, and turn against each other, and that will allow the government to crack down, on us all, implementing all the police state crap, that they've just been waiting for an excuse, to do, for a long fucking time! THIS IS CONTRIVED...and bullshit! If they wanted to march, and/or if they knew what they were really marching about, they'd be in Washington! Most of these little punks look like they haven't even been out of the bathroom, counting their new pubic hairs with tweezers, and experienced anything in life, to even know what they are doing!.. ....and any clowns in here, who are supportive of them, aren't spending enough time working on their music...and just want to relive their stupid youth...doing equally stupid bullshit!" #################################################### It's gotta be the water. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,999 Date: 04 Oct 11 - 10:41 AM "'the "Occupy Wall Street" protest movement, may grow legs and become a pivotal point in saving what is left of the middle class and taking our country back from the thieving bankster crooks.'" I thought that at last you'd come to the reality you say you're from. Now I see you are quoting someone else. Too bad, because I had thought there was hope for you. Talk about 'dashed on the rocks'. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Oct 11 - 02:03 PM No, Guest 999....I was merely giving you both sides of the 'rational', behind this crap.....Go look at the post under the 'Wall Street' Thread. This is clearly a Machiavellian Principle gimmick! ...and maybe there's 'hope' for you, too... (wink!) GfS P.S. The bottom line, IS to stir up shit on the streets, violence, and 'remedies'....though some of the abuses on Wall Street and Washington are now 'just to big to hide'! |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: gnu Date: 04 Oct 11 - 03:40 PM "...because YOU'RE racist!" ""... love you all...especially the racist, bigots and slur-bitches!" WTF is going? Hmmm... could it be that such impropriety is allowed to remain to demonstrate to all readers that the poster's character and/or judgement is questionable? A little bit of yer own medicine? BTW, I ain't the only one that feels these are personal attacks. Lighten up eh? |
