Subject: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Little Dorritt Date: 12 Jan 00 - 04:47 PM The Solway Harvester, a scallop dredger was lost with all hands today, in terrible conditions in the Irish Sea. seven crew members, six from one village, aged between 22-17, are drowned. Are all folks songs political? Probably, but some are just borne out of the tragedy of everyday living. I am reminded of all those fishing songs 'Three Score and Ten' 'Harry Eddon' and how stupidly in my own mind I created an image of another era, when things like that happened. More guilty still, the words trip off the tongue without making the connection between the song and the reality. Today it has brought it home to me.
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Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: The Shambles Date: 12 Jan 00 - 04:54 PM My family fished for generations It was all that we knew The village bore it's losses Together, we would see it through Now the Sunbeam dies in the harbour We are paid to tear her apart Now I may not perish on the ocean But, still the fishing's in my heart
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Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Martin _Ryan Date: 12 Jan 00 - 05:01 PM Dreadful tragedy, indeed. I remember a similar loss about 10-15 years ago when a boat called the Evelyn Marie went down off Donegal. The disaster produced a good commemorative song - small consolation though it be. Regards |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Little dorritt Date: 12 Jan 00 - 05:07 PM My husband grew up in the trawling community of the Hessle road in Hull. He went to sea at fifteen and saw more losses in that tight knit community than he cares to mention. It is long since behind him, and he has moved on with his life, but its a very sombre mood in this household. At the back of my mind it really brings home to you how primitive we are despite all our grand technology, we send men in little boats out to sea in dreadful weather. thank you Shambles for the beautiful prose. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: catspaw49 Date: 12 Jan 00 - 05:42 PM Seafaring communities are special indeed and the losses affect so many. My thoughts are with the ones left behind. As always Roger....Simply beautiful. Spaw |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Date: 12 Jan 00 - 05:53 PM Thanks Roger - as my heart ached from this tragic news it found a degree of release in your words. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Wesley S Date: 12 Jan 00 - 05:55 PM They and the survivors will be in my thoughts and prayers. God bless them. And thankyou for letting us know about it. It makes you wonder if this is "newsworthy" enough to make the papers. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Neil Comer Date: 12 Jan 00 - 06:17 PM There is a saying in Irish which runs: Bíonn a cuid féin ag an fharraige- the sea has its share. Only too true |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE PATTERN^^ From: katlaughing Date: 12 Jan 00 - 06:20 PM Thanks Little Dorrit for letting us all know and Shambles for your beautiful words. I will be thinking of those poor families and give thanks that they make it through this terrible time. Would like to share the following; one of my favourite songs, it has a hauntingly beautiful melody: Kim McKee wrote it after reading how the women in seafring villages would knit an "identifying" pattern in the sweaters for their men. Here are the copyrighted lyrics: THE PATTERN
Oh the sea can take the lovers
So we stitch for them a sweater
Chorus:
And this man will not be nameless
This pattern gives his name to him
Of the loving nights with tallow lights Chorus:
I remember all the love I felt
Now I sit beside this peat fire Chorus:
And this boy will not be nameless
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Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Richard Bridge Date: 12 Jan 00 - 07:15 PM Sham, that's half a song. Finish it, it's good. Unlike some political songs it uses understatement to increase the effect. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: raredance Date: 12 Jan 00 - 07:28 PM I agree Kat, it is "hauntingly beautiful". Wilson & McKee are a wonderful husband/wife duo from Montana who deserve a bigger audience (doesn't everybody). "The Pattern" is on their 1995 CD of the same name on the Rimnsong label. If you get the chance to see them live, cajole them at intermission into doing "Greenland Whale Fishery". They do a wonderful somewhat slowed down version that Kim adds sign language to. rich r |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: raredance Date: 12 Jan 00 - 07:31 PM Sorry, Ken Willson deserves to have his name spelled correctly with 2 "L's" rich r |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Martin _Ryan Date: 12 Jan 00 - 07:36 PM The Watersons used to do a beautiful, slow, haunting version of "The Greenland Whale Fishery". Nowadays, if you try to sing it, people speed it up and sing the last line twice! Its on the "Early Days" CD reissue of a year or two ago. Regards |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Peter T. Date: 12 Jan 00 - 07:37 PM kat, amazing song, just amazing. If the melody is as haunting as the words, phew. Must find the album. Thanks, yours, Peter T. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 12 Jan 00 - 07:41 PM There are no roses on sailors graves Nor wreaths upon the storm tossed waves No last post from the Royals band So far away from their native land No heartbroken words carved on stone Just shipmates bodies floating there alone The only tributes are the seagulls sweeps And the teardrop when a loved one weeps UNKNOWN The Motto of my service is, this we do, "That Others May Live" Sometimes the sea wins the fight. Yours, Aye Dave |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Martin _Ryan Date: 12 Jan 00 - 07:50 PM Dave Well said. Regards |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Áine Date: 12 Jan 00 - 08:25 PM Dear Dave, From a daughter of a US Navy family, thank you. -- Áine |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Victoria Date: 12 Jan 00 - 08:39 PM If folk music cannot see to the heart of such a tragedy...what can indeed? Thank you for making us aware of this ...surely many prayers and thoughts will be with those families tonight, because you did. Here's another chorus perhaps..... "Upon the land they breathless stand as they watch the stormwinds come, Mothers, Sisters, Daughters, Wives, wait for Fathers, Brothers, Sons. And should the waves claim yet that soul for whom they burn a light, There'll be one angel more in the arms of the sea as they wait in vain tonight." May God be with them, as will our thoughts, as they face a future without a loved one. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: katlaughing Date: 12 Jan 00 - 09:33 PM richr, glad to find someone else who knows about them! Yes, they DO deserve a wider audience. I've seen them live, twice, here in Wyoming. PeterT, their record company addy is Rimsong Music, P.O. Box 704 Polson, MT 59860. They have 3 CDs out and while I like them all, I think that one is the best; not a song on it that I don't like and Greenland Whale Fishery is on it, too. Sorry for the thread drift. Dave, Victoria, those were beautiful. katlaughing |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: DonMeixner Date: 12 Jan 00 - 11:24 PM I have seen boats in all stages of their living. I have laid keels and stood ribs. I have faired shears and chines and I have seen them at plating. I 've watched ships launch. I've seen them work and I've seen them sink but the men on board have always come back. It breaks my heart to think of a ship with all hands lost at sea. But they still go out again don't they. Don |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: katlaughing Date: 13 Jan 00 - 12:27 AM Dear Don, Your words are some of the most eloquent I've ever read. I am just about speechless and my eyes are brimming with tears; something in the cadence, in the first person, experience, etc. which just came out so well and with such vivid poignancy. Thanks. For more info, here is a short synopsis I was able to find:
Wednesday January 12 8:04 PM ET KIRKUDBRIGHT, Scotland (AP) - Seven Scottish fisherman were feared dead Wednesday after their boat sank in the Irish Sea. The 70-foot scallop dredger Solway Harvester disappeared after putting out a distress call at about 6 p.m. Tuesday. The coast guard said sonar detected the vessel at the bottom of the sea Wednesday afternoon, close to where it had put out a distress call, off the Isle of Man. Both its life rafts were discovered uninflated, prompting speculation the dredger had sunk rapidly. Coast guard officials said there was little hope of finding the crew, and the sea and air search was scaled down Wednesday. Prime Minister Tony Blair offered condolences to the families of the fishermen, who ranged in age from 17 to 33. ``Our profound sympathy is with them all,'' Blair said. Local police Sgt. Mike Kneeshaw said the southwest Scottish communities of Whithorn, Garlieston and Isle of Whithorn were hard hit by the loss. ``It is a very tight-knit community,'' he said. ``There can be very, very few families which will not be affected by this tragedy.''
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Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: roopoo Date: 13 Jan 00 - 02:46 AM It's a moving tribute to these men that so many people around the world feel the loss. I and one or two other Mudcatters (Ian Stephenson and his family) know the Isle of Whithorn, and Kirkudbright, as we go to that area every summer. How Winter can change things! Ian and his family know the area even better than I do, as they have relatives in Creetown and all have been going there for over 30 years. Isle of Whithorn is a beautiful village which centres around its lovely harbour, now home to mainly pleasure boats and inshore fishermen. It is also the place where St. Ninian landed to bring Christianity to that area of Britain in the 5th century: the remains of a chapel are still to be found near a sloping shingle beach where pilgrims landed. For me it is one of the most spiritual places and I find great peace there. I hope and pray that the same peace and healing that I find may one day find its way into the hearts and minds of the families that have been destroyed by this tragedy. The sea is a cruel mistress, and I hope for the sake of the relatives of these men that she will give up her dead so that they can complete their mourning process. mouldy It will be a poignant visit for me next year.
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Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 13 Jan 00 - 03:03 AM Well said, Don M. A tragedy like this makes us realize that some folks actually DO lay their lives on the line to put food on our tables. Maybe we can think about that the next time we're bitching about something really insignificant. BTW, I think Ewan MacColl captured the risks these folks take in his Singing The Fishing Series, eg the Shoals of Herring, or the Lifeboat Mona. God Rest Them. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: The Shambles Date: 13 Jan 00 - 09:59 AM Richard. It was in fact only a third of a song, called Thirty Pieces Of Silver. The rest of it does not really belong here but if you are interested, I have posted the whole thing HERE |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Magpie Date: 13 Jan 00 - 10:09 AM There seems to be tragedies all over the shop these days. Here in Norway, there was just recently a train accident where two trainscollided head on, and I think more than 30 people died including the entire staff save one. I always knew the sea was a dangerous place, but I thought trains were supposed to be fairly safe. Another song that comes to mind is Donegal Danny. Non-political, about the perils and tragedies of the sea. Magpie |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: folk1234 Date: 13 Jan 00 - 10:45 AM From Joan Sprung's beautiful "Harbors of Home": "The Ocean gives us fish, and the fish it buys our bread. Strike a bargain with the Devil so that all of us are fed. And nothing's given free, and our bonny boys are dead. Oh our young men from the Harbors of Home." |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: roopoo Date: 13 Jan 00 - 11:18 AM I think that tribute should be paid to all who go out in foul conditions to rescue those in peril at sea. The Lifeboatmen only know too well the price the sea can exact, many of them being fishermen themselves. mouldy |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Clifton53 Date: 13 Jan 00 - 02:06 PM Beautiful words all. A sad story. The sea is indeed a cruel mistress. There have been some clamming vessels lost in recent years near my home. Part of the problem aside from the weather, is trying to turn a profit at this buisness. Longer hours on the water, and trying to satisfy corporate ownership is difficult. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Escamillo Date: 13 Jan 00 - 11:14 PM Sorry to hear about another tragedy. (Yesterday 47 argentine people died in a bus accident in Brazil, and today 5 more, in the same route and same place). Aren't we living too fast ? Our thoughts are with those families. Un abrazo - Andrés |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: katlaughing Date: 14 Jan 00 - 12:16 AM Yes, André, we are living too fast. I am sorry to hear of your countrywo/men. I will also be thinking of them and their families. katlaughing |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: p.j. Date: 14 Jan 00 - 12:47 AM Thank you, Little Dorritt, for making sure this didn't go unnoticed in this community. It's so touchig to see people who never knew these fishermen care so much about what their death-- and life-- meant. I think the music in our lives has everything to do with that awareness, no matter how far from the sea we were raised. Speaking as the wife of a fireman, I hope they died doing something they loved, and I hope their families can grieve in the company of people who are as good as the dear folks I've read on this thread. They, and you, are in my thoughts tonight. p.j. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: JenEllen Date: 14 Jan 00 - 02:27 AM Do not stand at my grave and weep. I am not there, I do not sleep. I am a thousand winds that blow. I am the diamond glint on snow. I am the sunlight on ripened grain. I am the gentle autumn rain. When you wake in the morning hush, I am the swift uplifting rush Of quiet birds in circling flight. I am soft ocean starlight at night. Do not stand at my grave and weep. I am not there, I do not sleep. May some small amount of peace and comfort go to all the falmilies and friends of those lost. Elle |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Escamillo Date: 14 Jan 00 - 04:52 AM JenEllen, what a beatiful poem ! I wish I had the talent to write something like that in my own grave and not those more mundane things (go sing a song, take a beer, etc.) that come to my mind, but the feeling is the same. Un abrazo - Andrés Magré |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Wotcha Date: 14 Jan 00 - 07:52 AM A tragedy and a sad loss to the communities. A good time to remind folks to contribute to Birtain's Royal National Lifeboat Institution (RNLI) which provides volunteer services to rescue those in peril on the sea. Brian |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE LOSS OF THE EVELYN MARIE^^ From: Martin _Ryan Date: 14 Jan 00 - 05:30 PM I mentioned the "Evelyn Marie" earlier in this thread. When I check, I find she went down twenty five years ago, almost to the day. Here's the song: THE LOSS OF THE EVELYN MARIE It's mournful to tell you a story so sad It's about a new trawler and the equipment she had It was was fitted with rudder and lifeboats for the sea It was blessed for the ocean, the Evelyn Marie There was six gallant fishermen, men of the sea Qualified skippers, her nets to set free They'd fish the wild ocean in every degree In this beautiful trawler, the Evelyn Marie They fished the wild ocean, North, East and West They sold off their catches at the port that was best And then they were happy going right back to sea In this beautiful trawler , the Evelyn Marie They guided this trawler for one year and some days What ill fate befell them within the freak waves A call to their comrades "Mayday at the sea Assist us this moment with the Evelyn Marie" "Assistance now coming - Summer Star and its crew" Saying "With God's help we'll make it, your trawler is new" A disaster it was then - they just saw her stern As she sank near the rocks outside Rathlin O'Beirne Come all you good people, I ask one and all Pray for the fisherman who are off Donegal Pray for the six skippers who are lost out at sea In the ill-fated trawler, the Evelyn Marie Regards |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: JamesBerriman Date: 30 Aug 00 - 09:00 AM I heard a tremendous song about the Solway Harvester at Robin Hood's bay, during Whitby Folk week. ( :-]) James |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Kim C Date: 30 Aug 00 - 09:44 AM What is that verse in the book of Proverbs, about "them that go down to the sea in ships"? |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: GUEST,Bobby Bob, Ellan Vannin Date: 30 Aug 00 - 01:24 PM I would be very interested to see the lyrics/hear the tune of the song that James Berriman referred to having heard sung at the Whitby Folk Festival recently. As you probably know, the Isle of Man Government showed its independence by not following the general policy of the United Kingdom and raising the Solway Harvester for further investigation. It sank in the Manx territorial sea, about eleven miles off Douglas. Before that, all seven bodies were recovered from on board, and the Isle of Man Government and the fishing industry here assisted the distressed families in coming to the Island for the inquest and taking back the bodies for burial. Isle of Man Government members and fishing industry representatives attended the funerals, and very shortly a memorial will be raised on Douglas Head. The whole affair has strengthened the links between the fishing families in that part of Scotland and the Isle of Man. However, part of the waters by Kirkcudbright has been known as 'Manxman's Lake' for many years, showing the strong affinity between the areas. The general public in the Island have been very moved by the tragedy; a lot of money has been raised for the families; and there has been a huge wave of sympathy in general. A song about the sad events which have hit home hard here as well as in Whithorn/Kirkcudbright would be of very great interest to people in the Isle of Man, so if any person can post the lyrics and a midi file, I'd be very grateful. Shoh slaynt, Bobby Bob
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Subject: Lyr Add: IN THE DEEP^^ From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Aug 00 - 04:54 PM Aw gee. IN THE DEEP
In the deep, in the deep, |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: DougR Date: 30 Aug 00 - 05:03 PM Thanks, Little Dorritt, for informing us of this terrible happening. What a loss to those two villages. My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of those seven men. DougR |
Subject: RE: Evelyn Marie From: Felipa Date: 12 Apr 21 - 02:54 PM There are at least two songs in English and one in Irish about the loss of the Evelyn Marie. There may well be more. I'm looking for the lyrics of the Irish language song Eibhlín Marie, record by Aodh Ó Duibheannaigh and by Máire Ní Bhraonáin. Aodh's singing is clear enough but I'm not good at transcribing by ear and don't want to spend lots of time listening over and over. As for the lyrics posted by Martin Ryan, I heard it on a recording posted on youtube, sung to the tune of Dominic Behan's "Patriot Game". The Loss of the Evelyn Marie |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Steve Gardham Date: 12 Apr 21 - 04:52 PM The loss of Hull and Grimsby trawlers in the Arctic during the 20th century were great tragedies for the area, but if you look at the shipwreck register for the 19th century on Wikipedia, ships were lost with all hands on an almost daily basis for a great variety of reasons, and in the great gales of the 1860s and 1880s the losses were colossal, up to 50 ships in one day. many ordinary seamen had little option. It was go back to sea or starve, and trust in providence. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Jack Campin Date: 12 Apr 21 - 06:51 PM https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solway_Harvester Murdered by the bosses as with most "industrial accidents". |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Steve Gardham Date: 13 Apr 21 - 10:00 AM Leaky, undermanned, many skippers lacked experience as promotion was rapid due to great loss of life, very dangerous conditions, health and safety didn't exist, etc. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Jack Campin Date: 13 Apr 21 - 10:11 AM "Don't mourn, organize" as someone who knew what he was talking about said. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: GUEST,henryp Date: 14 Apr 21 - 05:27 AM Yesterday; A wreck found off the north Wales coast has been identified as a fishing boat that sank more than two months ago with three crew on board. The bodies of Alan Minard, 20, Ross Ballantine, 39, and skipper Carl McGrath, 34, were all found in March. The Marine Accident Investigation Branch (MAIB) confirmed the wreck is that of the Nicola Faith, which failed to return to port in Conwy. The MAIB is investigating to find out why the vessel sank, in January. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: GUEST,henryp Date: 14 Apr 21 - 06:28 AM The Good Hope by Herman Heijermans, in a new version by Lee Hall, lyrics by John Tams. The voyage of the Good Hope is a journey on which the life of an entire community depends. A storm rages, the women and children wait ashore, an unseaworthy boat forced to put to sea follows the Greenland catch... This Dutch classic of social realist theatre has been relocated to the Yorkshire fishing community of Whitby in 1900. All Clouds The Sky performed By John Tams And Barry Coope Live @ Alstonefield Village Hall, Staffordshire From The Good Hope, National Theatre 2001-2002 All Clouds The Sky |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: GUEST,James Phillips Date: 14 Apr 21 - 10:59 AM Couple of great sea tragedies as sung by Andy Stewart of Silly Wizard: DUBLIN BAY They sailed away in that gallant bark Roy Neal and his fair young bride They had ventured all on that bounding shipp That danced on the silv'ry tide And his heart was young and his spirit light As he kissed her tears away And they watched the shore retreat from sight Of their own sweet Dublin bay Three days they sailed when the storm arose And the lightning swept the deep And the thunderclaps broke the short repose Of the weary sailors' sleep Roy Neal, he clasped his weeping bride And he kissed her tears away "Oh, love, 'twas a fearful hour, " he cried "When we left sweet Dublin Bay." On the crowded deck of that doomed ship Some fell into deep despair And some more calm with a holier heart Sought the god of the storm in prayer "She has struck a rock, " the sailors cried In a breath of wild dismay And the ship went down with the fair young bride That left from Dublin bay THE FISHERMAN'S SONG By the storm torn shoreline A woman is standing, The spray strung like jewels in her hair. And the sea tore the rocks Near that desolate landing, As though it had known she stood there. CHORUS: For she has come down To condemn that wild ocean For the murderous loss of her man. His boat sailed out on Wednesday morning, And it's feared she's gone down With all hands. Oh and white were the wave caps And wild was their parting. So fierce is the warring of love. But she prayed to the gods, Both of men and of sailors, Not to cast their cruel nets O'er her love. There's a school on the hill Where the sons of dead fathers Are led toward tempests and gales. Where their God-given wings Are clipped close to their bodies, And their eyes are bound round With ship's sails. What force leads a man To a life filled with danger High on seas or a mile underground? It's when need is his master And poverty's no stranger, And there's no other work to be found. |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: GUEST,Iains Date: 14 Apr 21 - 11:11 AM On Friday 3 December 1909, Ellan Vannin left her home port of Ramsey , under the command Captain James Teare,Ellan Vannin was carrying 15 passengers and 21 crew The weather on departure was moderate and although the barometric pressure was falling the captain did not expect a significant deterioration in the weather. The wind direction on departure was from the northwest meaning the Ellan Vannin would have a following sea during her passage – something which would have caused her master no particular concern However, the weather rapidly worsened and when the ship arrived at the Mersey Bar lightship, the wind had risen to a Hurricane Force 12, and waves were reported to be exceeding 24 feet in height.It is believed she was broached by a large wave, which overwhelmed the ship. She was swept by heavy seas and filled, sinking by the stern with the loss of all passengers and crew. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUvX3JIzT2A |
Subject: RE: Loss of all hands in the irish sea From: Jack Campin Date: 21 Apr 21 - 09:23 AM From the Glasgow Keelie FB page. Everyday leading up to Workers Memorial Day next Wednesday (28th), we will post a story illustrating workers killed by negligence. This one relates to the military & how the Navy uses the Clyde and waters beyond: The Fishing is six times more dangerous than any other workplace and it doesn’t help when your nets catch a nuclear submarine. Since 1970 there may have been up to 150 fisherfolk drowned because submarines snagged their fishing nets. In 2015, trawlers from Scotland- Aquarius and Northern Ireland - Karen and France had their nets caught by submerged submarines. Further back in 1990 the wooden trawler Antares from Carradale, Kintyre, sank in the Firth of Clyde while fishing for herring off Arran because HMS Trenchant a nuclear submarine caught its nets as it passed underneath. This hunter killer submarine was loaded with Spearfish heavyweight torpedoes and driven by a student at the time of the disaster. All four fishing crew were drowned, Dugald John, 20, Skipper Jamie Russell, 36, William Martindale, 24, and Stewart Campbell, 29. The Firth of Clyde is used by MOD for its Perisher mock battle course where it trains Navy Officers from all over the world to drive a nuclear sub. On that night Jamir Russell and the crew were fishing in the deep waters of the Arran Trench with two other fishing vessels nearby. HMS Trenchant was in the same area conducting the Perisher course. A student was in command of the sub, under the supervision of their commanding officer. The sub heard loud banging and when it surfaced there was fishing net on its hull. It attempted to contact the two boats it could see without success. It contacted Faslane to say it had net on it but the 2 boats looked fine and carried on teaching its Perisher course. The Secretary of the Clyde Fisherman’s Association heard of the incident, radioed the two boats who confirmed a third vessel had disappeared, maybe gone out to sea or docked. More phone calls confirmed it had not. A search found only fish boxes and oil floating on the surface. The following day, sonar of one of the search vessels picked up a new, uncharted wreck on the seabed. It was confirmed to be the Antares. The sub had caught the nets of the boat immediately dragging it and filling it with water. Experts found that NO BLAME at all could be attached to the crew of the Antares who were going about their legal business of commercial fishing. ALL BLAME was placed on the crew and commanding officers of HMS Trenchant. The official findings of the investigation were that there was a “partial breakdown in both the standards and structure of watchkeeping on board HMS Trenchant’. The families found it ‘inconceivable’ that the following year, near the anniversary, the MOD went ahead with Perisher training students just extending the distance of nuclear subs from fishing boats to 3000 yards. NOTHING stops the WARmongering financial racket. |
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