Subject: What are your favorite Scottish tunes? From: Sandy Date: 26 Nov 99 - 05:08 PM It's a long term project of mine to arrange Scottish tunes for fingerstyle guitar. My interest arises largely from the fact that my mother was from Scotland (Eyemouth), although I'm no expert on Scottish music. I'm curious to know what tunes mudcatters would pick to go on a list of favorite Scottish tunes (and what versions if possible). Thanks in advance. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Bruce O. Date: 26 Nov 99 - 05:18 PM For songs or instrumentals? Some tunes are both song and dance tunes. ABCs of many can be found via the webside ABC index on the ABC homepage. I have some of my favorites as ABCs (some with songs) in the S1, S2 and T1 files on my website. I have some other favorites that are used for more common songs that aren't there. Murray on Saltsping is the best near-regular here to answer that, really. 'Leslie Braes', 1994, except for "Johnnie Cope" (second half his) are his own compositions. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Bruce O. Date: 26 Nov 99 - 06:16 PM Nigel Gatherer's Scottish tunes don't seem to be in the web-wide ABC index. Also, I can't get his direct URL to work. What does work is finding 'The Scottish Music Pages' with a search engine, and clicking from there. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Mick Lowe Date: 26 Nov 99 - 09:02 PM Without doubt it has to be"Annie Laurie".. Mick
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Bruce O. Date: 26 Nov 99 - 11:56 PM The original version of "Annie Laurie" and the short history of C. K. Sharpe (historian who found the song, and collected others) of her and the young man who wrote the song are first in the Scarce Songs 2 file on my website: www.erols.com/olsonw |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Bruce O. Date: 26 Nov 99 - 11:59 PM What's wrong? This is the second posting tonight that hasn't gone to the top after my additional message. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Bruce O. Date: 27 Nov 99 - 12:00 AM Same result. Let's try again. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Bruce O. Date: 27 Nov 99 - 12:03 AM I give up. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: sophocleese Date: 27 Nov 99 - 01:08 AM Bruce O. normally I like reading your postings, they have a lot of good informationin them but now I'm afraid you've made me laugh. You sound like someone talking into a dead phone."Hello..Can you hear me? Are you there?" I'll see if this goes to the top now. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: sophocleese Date: 27 Nov 99 - 01:10 AM Gee Bruce, it worked for me... |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: sophocleese Date: 27 Nov 99 - 01:12 AM Then my program glitched. Pride goeth etc. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Bruce O. Date: 27 Nov 99 - 01:40 AM I guess Mudcat has had a hard day, it just takes it a few minutes go get going again. I'm waiting now to see how long it take to get another of my messages to come up. It had not come up yet when I came here. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Metchosin Date: 27 Nov 99 - 02:39 AM Bruce O, it wasn't going up to the top on another thread I was on either. My cookie had expired, so maybe that was the problem. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Margaret\W Date: 27 Nov 99 - 05:04 AM Sandy: There's lots of good stuff around, but being from just over the border (on the English side) I'd have to go for the 'nearly Northumbrian tunes'- how about Tweedside Schottische and Berwick Johnnie (the 1745 rebellion version)? Both great on fiddle/Northumbrian smallpipes but good on guitar too!
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Pete Peterson Date: 27 Nov 99 - 10:23 AM J. Scott Skinner's The Bonnie Lass of Bon Accord. I had about the first four variations worked out on banjo a while ago and hadn't thought of it in years. THanks! |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: bunkerhill Date: 27 Nov 99 - 11:33 AM Jock Stewart, Broom of the Cowdenknowles, Auld Lang Syne |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Frankie Date: 27 Nov 99 - 01:38 PM Here's a few of my favorites Sandy: Wild Mountain Thyme- by Connie Dover (Tannahill Weavers also do a nice version) Hector the Hero- I learned this from a dulcimer player and have never heard a recording of it. You can hear it at www.contemplator.com/folk.html which is Lesley Nelson's site. It contains a bunch of Scottish tunes ( and a lot of other good stuff) played pretty decently on midi. Thatchers o' Glen Rae and McCrimmons Lament - by Dick Gaughan on NO MORE FOREVER (Aly Bain on fiddle) Now Westlin' Winds-by Gaughan on HANDFUL OF EARTH Frankie |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Bill D Date: 27 Nov 99 - 03:07 PM *Wild Mountain Thyme" is not 'really' a Scottish tune...it is a re-write by an Irishman...*smile*...but 'Braes 'o Balquidder', from which it came is....both nice tunes.... I like the Scottish tunes used for ballads and laments...just something special about them...my mind is hard pressed to pick one right now....perhaps in a bit... |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Peregine Scott Date: 27 Nov 99 - 03:25 PM Stirling Castle |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: sophocleese Date: 27 Nov 99 - 04:28 PM The Boatman, My Luv's in Germanie are two of my favourites at the moment. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Amos Date: 27 Nov 99 - 04:40 PM I'm partial to "The Muckin' O' Geordie's Byer", "There Was a Soldier, a Scottish Soldier", and "Johnny, Where's Your Trousers", but they're not serious folk songs. A. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Dizzie Date: 27 Nov 99 - 04:42 PM The Dark Island is a beautiful haunting melody with equally good lyrics |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: kendall Date: 27 Nov 99 - 07:23 PM Dark Island certainly, I prefer Carolines version.. with Sandy doing harmony Lassie wi a yellow coatie. I once used this as a proposal..it worked but the song lasted almost as long as the marriage. Loch Tay boat song. the Corries. Rose of Allendale..Mary Black |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Frankie Date: 28 Nov 99 - 07:45 AM Bill D- I checked out The Braes o' Balquhidder by Scottish poet Robert Tannahill at www.contemplator.com, compared it to Wild Mountain Thyme, credited to Jimmy McPeake in the Database and found that I sing lyrics (not in dialect) much closer to the former. Are you telling me each of these lyrics are sung to different tunes? Thanks and regards, Frankie |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Håvard Date: 28 Nov 99 - 12:52 PM I'd suggest some of Niel Gow's tunes. In particular "Niel Gow's Lament on the death of his second wife" and "Farewell to Whisky". If you don't mind Shetland tunes "Da Slockit Licht" and "Da day dawn" has been long standing favorites with me Håvard |
Subject: Lyr Add: GOW'S FAREWELL TO WHISKY From: Bruce O. Date: 28 Nov 99 - 01:38 PM This song is in 'The Little Warbler', I, p. 133, Oliver: Netherbow, 1804. The tune later appeared in Gow's 'Strathspey Reels', bk. 5 (1809).
Gow's Farewell to Whisky
You've surely heard o' famous Neil,
Alake, quoth Neil, I'm frail and auld,
Tho' I can get baith wine and ale,
Come, a' ye powers of music, come!
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: selby Date: 28 Nov 99 - 01:56 PM without doubt Athol Highlanders, Crossing the Minch & jig of Slurs. Keith |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Bruce O. Date: 28 Nov 99 - 03:05 PM "Niel Gow's Farewell" is now in Scarce Songs 1 on my website with an ABC of the tune from Gow's 5th book of Strathspey Reels. With luck, the server will again be able to find my website, but I've not been able to see it at all today. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 28 Nov 99 - 07:13 PM Here is a purely unbiased, perhaps naive (because I have an untrained ear), list of Scottish songs that appeal to me. A few I remember from childhood, others I discovered within this last year. My only criteria is "the sound." (I'm hopelessly in love with the Scottish sound.) Most can be found at Lesley's site. A Man's a Man For a That Annie Laurie The Bluebells of Scotland Bonnie Doon The Campbells Are Comin' Charlie is My Darling Come By the Hills Flow Gently Sweet Afton The Four Marys The Land of the Leal Loch Lomond Of Thee I Dream (Mo Shuil Ad Dheigh) Prince Charlie Rare Willie Scotland the Brave The Great Silkie The Skye Boat Song Wi' A Hundred Pipers Will Ye No Come Back Again (Bonnie Charlie) ...Scottish lullabies? Can Ye Sew Cusions Mist Covered Mountains (Smile in Your Sleep Hush Ye, My Bairnie (Carogan Gaolach) Lady Anne Bothwell's Lament (Baloo My Boy) ...and of course, "Wild Mountain Thyme" whether Scottish or Irish ;-) BTW, does anyone know the names of the Scottish tunes in Max Bruch's "Scottish Fantasy"? The 1st, 2nd, and 4th movements can be heard at The Classical Midi Connection under Bruch in the Romantic section. Mary |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: kendall Date: 28 Nov 99 - 07:18 PM hey Mary from KY I believe one of the tunes in Scottish Fantasy is I'M A DOON FOR LACK OF JOHNNIE |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 28 Nov 99 - 07:26 PM Thanks. Where can I hear that? Mary |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: enelrad Date: 28 Nov 99 - 07:44 PM Th Eriskay Love Lilt is one of my fav...also, Bonnie George Campbell...The Burning of Achindoon ( spelling?) |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Mbo Date: 28 Nov 99 - 07:50 PM Definately "All The Blue Bonnets Over The Border." Another good tunes is "Harvest Home" and it works very well as fingerstyle guitar piece. I know, I play ALL the time! --Mbo |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Caitrin Date: 28 Nov 99 - 08:29 PM "Cam Ye O'er Frae France" has always been a favorite of mine. My parents are big Steeleye Span fans, so it's a childhood memory of mine, along with "Misty Moisty Morning." (I was at least 10 before I realized that Misty Moisty Morning wasn't a classic children's song that everyone knew.) |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Dizzie Date: 28 Nov 99 - 09:19 PM Would like to add "Dark Lochnagar" either as an instrumental or the fine vocal effort by John McDermott |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Date: 28 Nov 99 - 09:58 PM "Came ye oe'r from France" is a song to the Scots tune of "The Keys of the Cellar", but better known from a later Irish title "Bob and Joan". The Winester Wedding "The Wincerterr " |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Mbo Date: 28 Nov 99 - 10:12 PM Thanks to my sister, who had a penchant for memorizing nursery rhymes, I know "Misty Moisty Morning." I reminds me of when I was 9 years old, and living in San Onofre, California way back in 1988. Returning to "Misty Moisty Morning," I only know it as a poem, but I'll have to look into it as being a song. --Mbo |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Bruce O. Date: 28 Nov 99 - 10:30 PM Sorry for that incomplete posting above, I don't know how that happened. I started it, and thought I cleared it, in order to go search for something. At any rate some history of the tune for "Cam ye o'er to France" (Keys of the Cellar"/ Bob and Joan" is given under "Bob and Joan" in the Scarce Songs 1 file on my website, and the tune is given as 'BOBJOAN1 in the tune file for it. "One Misty Moisty Morning" is a thoroughly English song (and tune) of the 17th century. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Hutzul Date: 29 Nov 99 - 02:34 AM Got to include Scottish Soldier Gallant Forty Twa and the ever popular Donald, Where are Your Troosers |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Dan Evergreen Date: 29 Nov 99 - 11:31 AM Although I have just gotten into Scots folksongs, my decided favorites so far are "Sweet Rose of Allandale," and "Lassie wi' the Yellow Coatie." |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Sandy Date: 29 Nov 99 - 12:08 PM Wow, what a great response! You've all set me on a pleasant long term journey to learn more about my Scottish heritage (the musical part). I hope others have enjoyed these responses as much as I have. Keep them coming! Sandy
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Little dorrit Date: 29 Nov 99 - 02:19 PM Will ye g'an love? (Archie fisher) Parcel of rogues (Steeleye span) Caledonia (Dougie Mclean) |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: kendall Date: 29 Nov 99 - 02:40 PM I have the honor of calling friend the last rightful heir to the throne of Scotland, James Stewart of St. John NB. No kidding, I saw the write up in a Canadian newspaper declaring him so. Anyway, he tells me that the song Passal of Rogues makes his hair stand and gives him chills. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Bruce O. Date: 29 Nov 99 - 02:46 PM For "One misty moisty moring (The Wiltshire Wedding) see the Opie's 'The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes' and ZN73 in the broadside ballad index on my website (tune is B149 there). "My Love's in Germanie" is Hector MacNeill's song to "Ye Jacobites by Name" (Scots Musical Museum #371), which is evidently the early tune for "Captain Kidd" (see original "You Jacobites..." and its tune direction in Scarce Songs 1). |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Murray on Saltspring Date: 30 Nov 99 - 03:28 AM Mary down there in Kentucky: Bruch's Scottish Fantasy's 4 movements are based on: Auld Rob Morris, Hey the Dusty Miller, I'm a' doon for lack o' Johnnie, and Scots wha hae wi Wallace bled. There's a thread somewhere about the 3rd; the last = Hey Tuttie Taitie, an old drinking song (and annoyingly, Bruch doesn't use all the tune for some reason). We seem to be collecting a lot of favourites. But do you want OUR own ones, or just a list of "everyone's favourite Scottish pops"? |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: D_hand@hotmail.com Date: 30 Nov 99 - 07:03 AM The Lough Tay Fisherman |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 30 Nov 99 - 08:37 AM Murray--you're a real treasure, thanks for the info. I was hot on the trail of only two. I'm interested in your favorites (favourites), so do tell. Mary |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: DougR Date: 30 Nov 99 - 02:50 PM Sandy: One of my favorites is "Think on Me" and I have posted several times trying to locate the lyrics for the song but no one else seems to know it. DougR |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Murray on SS Date: 30 Nov 99 - 04:41 PM DougR: Lady Nairne has a poem "Think", which may be what you're after. A song, "Think on Me", was a staple in the repertoire of the Glasgow Orpheus Choir. I can't trace this now, though. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: What are your favorite Scottish tun From: Frankie Date: 30 Nov 99 - 04:50 PM Did anyone mention Jock o' Hazeldean. Dick Gaughan (on NO MORE FORVER) and Martin Simpson (on LEAVES OF LIFE) recorded memorable versions of this beautiful old tune. F |
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