Phil Ochs

Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: Azizi
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 08:00 PM

Thanks for confirming that title.

There were some great songs on that album. I wonder if it's on CD, but my daughter tells me that nobody deals with CDs any more. IPods have taken over. I bet that plays havoc to recording artists' sales.

But that's another story.

Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 11:00 PM

oldhippie listed a number of songs written about Phil Ochs.
There's at least one more, recorded by Schooner Fair, and written
by a member of that group. Unfortunately, I'm currently 10,000
miles away from my copy of the record, so I don't have the name
of the song or the album.

Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: GUEST,Janine
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 07:55 AM

Thanks Azizi for finding and sharing the film clips. It's lovely to see what Phil Ochs looked like on stage. 'There But For Fortune' is a wonderful haunting song.
Poems put to music don't usually work at all but Phil Ochs with 'The Highwayman' works really well. So does his rendering of EA Poe's 'The Bells'

Jan

Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: Azizi
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 08:10 AM

You're welcome Janine.

Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: Greg F.
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 10:30 AM

The "best" collection of Phil Och's work may be:

Farewells & Fantasies: The Phil Ochs Collection [BOX SET]
Rhino R2 73518 (1997)
ASIN: B00000347F

Disc: 1         
1. What's That I Hear         
2. The Bells         
3. Morning         
4. Bound For Glory         
5. The Highwayman         
6. Power And The Glory         
7. That's What I Want To Hear         
8. Links On A Chain         
9. Love Me, I'm A Liberal         
10. Too Many Martyrs         
11. In The Heat Of The Summer         
12. Here's To The State Of Mississippi         
13. I'm Going To Say It Now         
14. One More Parade         
15. Draft Dodger Rag         
16. I Ain't Marching Anymore         
17. We Seek No Wider War         
18. Ringing Of Revolution         
19. When I'm Gone         
20. Song Of My Returning         
21. There But For Fortune         
Disc: 2         
1. The War Is Over         
2. I Ain't Marching Anymore         
3. White Boots Marching In A Yellow Land         
4. Is There Anybody Here?         
5. Santo Domingo         
6. Song Of A Soldier         
7. Cops Of The World         
8. Bracero         
9. Canons Of Christianity         
10. I Kill Therefore I Am         
11. The Confession         
12. William Butler Yeats Visits Lincoln Park And ...         
13. A Toast To Those Who Are Gone         
14. Changes         
15. The Doll House         
16. When In Rome         
Disc: 3         
1. Pretty Smart On My Part         
2. The World Began In Eden And Ended In Los Angeles         
3. Tape From California         
4. Chords Of Fame         
5. Gas Station Women         
6. Miranda         
7. Outside Of A Small Circle Of Friends         
8. Cross My Heart         
9. Flower Lady         
10. The Scorpion Departs But Never Returns         
11. Pleasures Of The Harbor         
12. Jim Dean Of Indiana         
13. Rehearsals For Retirement         
14. Doesn't Lenny Live Here Anymore         
15. No More Songs         
16. Crucifixion         

Tho currently out of print, used copies turn up pretty frequrntly.

A search of amazon.com turns up several dozen Ochs CD's still currently available.

Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: EBarnacle
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 02:16 PM

Bodad: They are part of the same family.

Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 03:47 PM

Azizi: Great link to the Phil Ochs material---and such great videos. I am always amazed where people got them all those years ago.

       There is one--the one with tex McRary that surprised me---the interview ends --everyone says good night and speaks of how literate Phil is and how his words mean so much---SO what do they use as an outro---Bob Dylan. Go figure.

Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 03:50 PM

By the way---strange to see the performers at that time--everyone wore suits and ties. The times they are not a changing---they have changed.

Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 03:59 PM

Looks like I was the last to be able to see that interview---seems it is now removed because it belongs to the estate of Murray the K--the host of the program. Glad I got so see it--and be surprised that one would use Dylan when you are compl;imenting and interviewing Phil

Reminds me of an incident when I had a guest on my program who I was influental in getting booked at the Bottom Line. The guest had to make a guest appearance on another station to promote the gig---the host at that station mentioned some songs the guest had recorded whch were covers--and then proceeded to say that they should play the composer's version. Reminded me of this incident---true discourtesy to a guest.

Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: Rog Peek
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 01:05 PM

Back in December oldhippie posted some of the songs about Phil.

All the songs listed here are written for, about, contain reference to or are dedicated to Phil Ochs.

If anyone out there knows of anymore, I'd be pleased to hear.


Anderson, Eric        *                         Thirsty Boots
Andrews, Harvey        *                        Song For Phil Ochs
Blanks                                         For Phil and Others
Blue, David        *                        Cupid's Arrow
Bragg, Billy        *                        I dreamed I Saw PO last night
Chapin, Harry        *                        The Parade's Still Going Past
Drake Barry                                Fallen Star
Fish, Leslie                                Chickasaw Mountain
Glover, Jim                                Psychic Cowboy
Griffith, Nanci        *                        Radio Fragile
Guthrie, Arlo   *                      Partiot's Dream
Harding, John Wesley *                        Phil Ochs, Bob Dylan, Steve
                                        Goodman, David Blue & Me
Honig, Jack                              Tribute to Phil ochs
Joplin, Josh        *                        Phil Ochs
Kahn, Brenda                                Goldfish Don't Talk Back
Kaplan, Paul                                Phil
Kind Of Like Spitting                        Sheriff Ochs
Latin Quarter (Steve Skaith &        *        Phil Ochs
                  Mike Jones)        
Nardin, Richard                                Song for Phil
Paxton, Tom        *                        Phil
Pegg Bruce                                Death of a Rebel
Sadot Vic        *                        The Broadside Balladeer
Schinkel, Gerd                                Epitaph Fuer Phil Ochs
Schooner Fare(Steve Romanoff)        *        Don't Stop To Rest
Snider, Todd                                Thin Wild Mercury
They Might Be Giants        *                The Day
Voice of Reason                                Remember Phil Ochs
Walker        , Sammy                *                Legends
Walker, Sammy                                Not Just Another Fad
Williams Dar                *                All My Heroes Are Dead

I have recordings of those which are asterisked, and am close to getting two more.

The list was souced from 'Phil Ochs - A Bio Bibliography' by David Cohen, Wikipedia and http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~trent/ochs/discog.html

Yes I am a pretty fanatical Phil Ochs Fan, have been for 40+ years, never tire of listening to his songs. He always said he was a topical singer (as opposed to a folkie) many of his songs are just as relevant today as they were then, after all American foreign policy never seems to change.

Rog

Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: bobad
Date: 22 Oct 09 - 04:11 PM

Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: bobad - PM
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 08:00 PM

That's right oldhippie, "All The News That's Fit To Print" is the masthead logo of the N.Y. Times which is coincidently published by Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr.

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Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: EBarnacle - PM
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 02:16 PM

Bodad: They are part of the same family.

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From "Death Of A Rebel" by Marc Elliot, which I am currently reading:

"Phil was ecstatic. He was sure now there had to be a connection between his family and the Ochs family which had founded the New york Times. He spent hours in the New York Public Library researching the Ochs family tree. Although he could never find a link, he was always sure one existed."

For the record.

Subject: RE: Phil Ochs
From: Rog Peek
Date: 23 Oct 09 - 01:18 PM

I had forgotten that it was Oldhippie's posting on this thread that prompted me to start the Songs for /about Phil Ochs thread. I had of course started my search for thses songs, but not with anything like the enthusiasm that ensued once that thread had started. Not only did Oldhippie unwittingly prompt the start of the thread, but has provided invaluable help with some of the entries along the way.

The count has now reached 49 identified, of which lyrics for 44 are posted and I have recordings of 40, the most recent addition being that of 'Tribute to Phil Ochs' by Jack Honig, which arrived in the post on Wednesday of this week.

It's amazing to think that the most recent song was written in 2007 with songs being written and recorded by at regular intervals since his death in 1976.

Any help with the missing songs would of course be very welcome.

Rog