BS: Enough, already with Palin!

Subject: RE: BS: Enough, already with Palin!
From: Amos
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 05:45 PM

Dang, talk about yer CHANGE, man, that is serious CHANGE!!!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Enough, already with Palin!
From: PoppaGator
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 06:00 PM

Little Hawk is right about the inclination to make political decisions based upon personalities as being implicit.

People invariably explain their positions in rational terms, but that's not necessarily how they arrive at said decisions.

For every one of us, our choice of candidate is based upon a combination of factors, including stated positions on issues and our confidence that the person in question is capable of, and truly intent upon, acting upon those positions. Our perceptions of personality factors has everything to do with how seriously we take a candidate's ability and honesty. The talk about issues is worth nothing if the person can't or won't stand behind his/her positions.

Also, of course, among individual citizens, the relative weight given to rational vs emotional factors varies quite widely. And when I observe large numbers of voters being so easily swayed by the most specious political commercials, I have serious doubts that many individuals among the electorate are giving serious thought to this deal.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough, already with Palin!
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 06:24 PM

Yo, Amos,

I heard that Sarah is going to start a new church called the "Church of Palintology, Sanctifed" so ya' might wanta check it out and get in on the ground floor...

***g***

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Enough, already with Palin!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 06:53 PM

As opposed to paleontology?

Subject: RE: BS: Enough, already with Palin!
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 07:01 PM

Ron-
If you really believe that Bush won the past two elections based on principles, I have some waterfront property in Arizona you might be interested in.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough, already with Palin!
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 10:41 PM

"And danged if they didn't sing them both. Said musician and I just looked helplessly at each other." Eb

"That is a great lesson. Each of us has a strong opinion that might not be shared by others. You may feel helpless because others do not share in it, but they are not required to be swayed by any thought but their own." Ron

This is a little thing, Ron, but I will point this out: At a party when someone says they don't like a particular song, the polite person does not turn around and sing that particular song. Unless they expect the other person to leave the room.

Not a big thing, as I said, but it is the premise I posed.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough, already with Palin!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 11:01 PM

True, Ebbie, but in the case alluded to: "Someone in the group overheard a snippet and exclaimed, Oh, that's a good one!"

In other words, whoever it was did not realize that someone else didn't want to hear that particular song. They just were reminded of the song, so they played it.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough, already with Palin!
From: GUEST,Sawzaw
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 11:08 PM

Is that "waterfront property in Arizona" On Lake Havasu, Lake Powell or Lake Meade?

Subject: RE: BS: Enough, already with Palin!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 11:09 PM

Any one of those three locations is really choice, so does it matter? I would like nothing better than to go sailboarding in Arizona on a sunny day when the wind is up.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough, already with Palin!
From: CarolC
Date: 12 Sep 08 - 12:32 AM

I think it can sometimes be personalities. I think that was definitely the case with Kennedy and Reagan, and to a small extent with Bush II and possibly Clinton, but I don't think for a minute that people voted for either Nixon, Carter, Ford, or Bush I because of their personalities.

Also, the power that wedge issues can have, I think, can overshadow any considerations of the candidates' personalities.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough, already with Palin!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Sep 08 - 12:55 AM

Well, it is kind of hard to see when you can't stand the guy yourself, isn't it?

What about the candidates people vote against? Does personality have anything to do with that?

Subject: RE: BS: Enough, already with Palin!
From: Riginslinger
Date: 12 Sep 08 - 07:37 AM

Bush II won because the Democrats put up candidates who were almost as hopeless as Obama.

Subject: RE: BS: Enough, already with Palin!
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Sep 08 - 08:33 AM

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__she's as smart__
_AS THE PRESIDENT_