BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?

Subject: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 01:48 AM

Okay, we pretty much all do music, but how many 'Catters do something in the way of the visual arts? Dabble on oils? Shoot up some rolls with the old Nikon? Get wild with Photoshop? I know we've got a few potters and a couple of wood turners and some jewelers and leather workers and several great instrument builders. I could mention a few specific names, but let's just let everybody speak for themselves. So, check on in, tell us what you do and if you've got any pics on the net post a link to 'em.

I guess I'll have to go first:

I'm one of the potters. I've been working in clay for about ten years now: Eight as a hobby and about two years as a livelihood. My wife and I work together, which has been an interesting exercise in the art of compromise, if nothing else. We sell mostly through regional arts and crafts shows. We use a variety of techniques including wheel-throwing, slab-building and coil-building. We make functional ware like bowls and mugs, but also totally non-functional things like ceramic mandala wall hangings and the weird faces that I keep affixing to the trees on our property to scare the Jehovah's Witnesses away. For those to whom it means anything, we fire at cone 6 in an electric kiln.

Here's a link to some pickies on a friend's website. Click Here

Bruce

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: mg
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 01:55 AM

neat stuff....and you don't look anything like I imagined...I know how to make roses out of kleenex...does that count?

mg

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 03:21 AM

I used to draw and paint at every opportunity, till I took up the guitar and singing; now I don't do much beyond doodling. Buy I'm a keen photographer, and I'm getting to be a dab hand with PaintShop Pro. I've tried a lot of things over the years, like leatherwork, ships in bottles, but I can never find enough hours to devote to music, art, crafts and Mrs P -- not to mention going to work!

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Genie
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 03:33 AM

Me, too, Steve. In my teens I did a lot of work in charcoal, pastels, and oils -- landscapes, portraits, etc. And I did a few portraits in pencil in my 20s, in addition to some cartoon work and stuff like designing my own Christmas cards. But aside from some t-shirt painting I did in the '80s & '90s, I hardly done any graphic art work in years. I keep threatening to start doing portraits again, but I never seem to get one of those "round tuits." One of these days.

Genie

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Mudlark
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 03:40 AM

Well, I WAS one of the potters...my husband and I worked together, made our living as studio potters for 30 years, about 1/3 wholesale, 2/3 through art fairs and private shows. Mostly functional, cone 10 reduction, great glazes, organic shapes.

Now that I am alone, I've turned to an old avocation and am slowly getting a photography business off the ground, selling mainly thru local wineries and gift shops. Like pottery, the process is far more compelling than the product, especially when it comes to marketing, my least favorite aspect of making a living from the arts.

Not a get rich quick scheme, that's for sure. But on the other hand, in more conventional terms one would have to be very high on the corporate food chain to live as freely as is possible from a "career" in the arts.

I agree, Bruce, living and working together turns compromise into an art form...but very rewarding.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: GUEST,Mike - Halifax - UK
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 03:55 AM

Interesting question since both music and visual arts are inter - related both creatively and as a great source of personal expression. I've been playing and singing for over 30 years now and been involved in arts ( I began as a potter ) for the same length of time. However I can't say I meet that many artists? that combine the two.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: smallpiper
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 04:13 AM

Used to do lots of drawing and painting, used to do murals all over the place (beter than wall paper) but can't be bothered these days which makes me sad when I think abut it - which isn't often (thankfully) I think I just ned some JOt and motivation in my life!

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Homeless
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 09:42 AM

If you want to be included on the Mudcat Market, drop me a PM saying such.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: GUEST,Walking Eagle
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 10:04 AM

I like to take pictures. I used to have a dark room set-up, but no longer. I'm learning origami. It's been years since I've made a saddle starting with the tree, but I have done that. I also cross stitch and crochet.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Matt_R
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 10:28 AM

I do a lot of work with photography and graphic design, using Photoshop, Illustrator, etc. I'm planning on doing graphic design work once I graduate in May.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: John Hardly
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 10:38 AM

Hairy potter here too. (thought about changing my mudcat name to "Erie Potter" as I once lived in Buffalo).

Interesting aside (as relates the earlier obsevation that many do both). I was recently at the Winterfair Craft Show in Columbus Ohio. I regularly take my guitar and mandolin because I found out a few years ago that four other potters in addition to myself also played the guitar. We would regularly get together before the show began and try to find some common ground to play afew tunes together.

This year as I was headed off to find my guitar playin' buds, I came across a foursome (guitar, whistle, fiddle, and mandolin) that were just sitting down to play together. I sheepishly asked if I might sit in and the little gathering turned into a four day jam (at the beginning of the show each day).

As the circle grew to many more musicians -- a jazz/dixieland clarinet, four more guitars, a dulcimer (great musician by the way), someone commented after looking around the circle "how many of you are potters?!". The great majority were.

Here's some photos of the event. The mando and guitar case in the opening photo are mine and I'm the guitarist over whose shoulder you look in two of the photos.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Kim C
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 10:47 AM

Do domestic arts count? I make most of my historic clothing myself, and have designed a couple of knitting patterns. I also make jewelry and do beadwork when I have the time.

I like to draw and paint a little - the foundation is there but I haven't taken much time to really develop the skill. I am hoping to change that this year, though. I used to do a lot of calligraphy and hope to be able to squeeze some more of that in, too.

I like to take pictures, and once in awhile, something comes out really good! I have started putting some of my photos on little greeting cards. Aren't color printers GREAT!?

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 10:57 AM

Been painting and drawing (mostly pen and ink) almost all of my life. I learned the basics at an early age working under a great painter by the name of Will Anderson and then went on to major in "Painting and Printmaking" at VCU in Richmond, Va. I don't do much painting anymore but do crank out an occasional pen and ink.

Now speaking of visual artists, BillD may be a little modest, but he does some of the nicest laithe work that you'll ever see.

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Alice
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 10:59 AM

My degree is in Fine Art and I have been a professional artist since 1974. My career is in art, illustration, and graphic design. Music is my passion, art is my business.

My portfolio (doesn't include my photography) is at:
www.aliceflynn.com

You can find my latest book cover illustration at amazon.com under the title "Camp of the Angel". My fine art is represented by the gallery Art-Exchange www.art-exchange.com (I'm in the process of uploading images).

Alice Flynn

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 10:59 AM

I used to do only pen and ink (in black and white) on paper. I was a fiber artist for about fifteen years after that. I did custom weaving and a small amount of production weaving. The last few years I was doing that, I wove only white cloth and then used surface design dying techniques for the color. I'd say that was my best work.

These days I'm working with color on paper and canvas using colored pencils, pastels, water colors and oils.

The only stuff I've got on-line right now are some of the pen and inks. (Click on the images or the animal names to make them larger.)

Click

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Kudzuman
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 11:15 AM

I majored in oil painting at UT in Knoxville, then did professional stained glass(restoration,church windows, Tiffany style lamps etc.) for many years. All original designs and ran my own business. Then I got allergic to flux and took up building instruments which I still do today. Mountain Dulcimers mainly with the occasional harp or bouzouki thrown in. My wife is a great charcoal and pencil artist also. I have a website, but it is a commercial one so I'm not sure if I should list that or not. Happy day everyone!

Kudzuman

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: GUEST,Foe
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 11:15 AM

I've been showing paintings since 1979 (showing - not selling much) Have some things in corporate collections in California and have been in a few galleries. Currently on the Board of the Hyattstown Mill Arts Project, Clarksburg, MD. Oils, watercolor, photographs, mixed (leather,feathers, wood, stone,etc). Usual response from the public to my work is, "what the hell is that supposed to be?" Ah well. My son is now doing web page design and I hope to have images on line in the future.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Alice
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 11:21 AM

Kudzuman, give us your web site address!

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Sorcha
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 11:23 AM

I used to do a lot of stuff with fiber--quilts, hangings, etc. but haven't made time lately.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Kudzuman
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 11:42 AM

Alice,

Here ya go: www.kudzupatch.net    I can't figure out how to get the blue clicky to work yet. Sorry. Cut and past I reckon!

Kudzuman

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Sorcha
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 11:48 AM

Sorcha's Quilts

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Morticia
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 12:02 PM

wow, you are a talented bunch aren't you? I love that fox,Carol!!I used to draw and paint a lot but now work with computer graphics ( Adobe Photoshop) in the main. I also sew,crochet and all sorts of other crafts.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: John Hardly
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 12:18 PM

this should be a link to kudzupatch

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Kudzuman
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 12:20 PM

John,

Thanks!! I gotta figure out how to do that. I might have to read the instructions.

Kudzuman

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 01:07 PM

started out painting (oil, watercolours) in my early teens,
as well as drawing, (pen & ink, coloured pencil, watercolour pencil)
and have continued off and on for the last 20+ years. I also got into sculpture (which I love the most as a visual art), I did some iron casting, some pieces in bronze, as well as papier mache, clay, plaster, even tried stone carving etc. (I entered a cast iron piece I made in a community arts council show, which later went on to the provincial show, and received an honourable mention) of course I have no images available online, but the piece was about 14" long by 2 inches and was a bone (femur) at one end and a polished wrench on the other - I did a few similar, whimsical pieces but about 6-7yrs ago I got into fiddle music, the muse took over. But over the last couple of years Ive been into making, pre-historic goddess images.
(willendorf, lauselle etc). Now that Im getting married and have bought a house with my fiancee, we will have lots of room to get involved in various messy art projects (shes quite talented as well both musically and in visual art).
petr

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Cluin
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 01:27 PM

Yup. Been making art and music most of my life. Some examples on my website... which badly needs updating but whose doesn't, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 02:37 PM

Very entertaining website, Cluin and the artwork is superb. I especially like your Lakota Warrior, even if you don't know why you included it on those pages. :-)

Everyone has such wonderful talent and such beautiful work! I love it when we have one of these threads.

Bruce, I really love the yellow and blue stuff and the DRUM! Nice work!

I've done a few bronze-castings which I really love doing and want to do more. One thing I do mean to do more of is enameling...just waiting to get a small tabletop kiln. I love the instant gratification of it, plus the ablity to manipulate a mistake into a correction.:-)

I've had a few photos published and was a state finalist in one photo competition. My cat photos are going in a book someday. Also had some people frame photos of my jewellry designs, as well as buy my pieces, which I mostly do not do anymore.

I've just recently had some fun with watercolours when trying them really for the first time in my life.

I like to take old found objects and make things out of them and seem to have a knack for doing so.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 03:24 PM

At the age of six or so, I became fascinated by "Buck Rogers" in the Sunday funnies (pre-dated Star Trek by thirty-five years); so fascinated that I couldn't wait for next Sunday's paper to see what was going to happen. I would take a pencil and a sheet of my father's typewriter paper and draw my own strip. I picked up the story where it left off and tried to anticipate the next episode. From this, it was a short step to making up my own stories. By age ten, instead of Buck Rogers, I was drawing my own characters, and I decided that when I grew up, I would be a comic strip artist like Milton Caniff, Alex Raymond, or Hal Foster.

As a kid, much of my time was spent at my desk in my bedroom or belly-flopped on the living room floor with the drawing board my Dad made for me (Dad was really supportive; he took me to an art supply store and bought me the stuff I figured I needed). On long sheets of drawing paper, with pencil, pen, and brush, I depicted space explorers having adventures on alien planets, costumed crime fighters foiling evil-doers, and a pilot (who bore an odd resemblance to a grown-up version of me) winning World War II practically single handed. I got pretty good. I could draw a B-25 Mitchell or a P-51 Mustang right down to the last rivet.

While drawing comic strips, I learned the hard way that I needed to have some idea of where the story was going. Otherwise, I could waste a lot of ink and paper by drawing my hero into a corner I couldn't get him out of. To preclude this, I began to write out the story ahead of time. I described the scene in each panel and wrote the dialogue for the speech balloons, much like writing a movie script. Soon I found myself writing the story many weeks in advance, and just not getting around to drawing the strips. Influenced by a lot of reading, and a creative writing class in high school, I turned my attention to just writing stories and let the drawing slide.

I sometimes wonder how I might have done had I stuck to drawing. I read somewhere that Bob Kane was only eighteen years old when his first "Batman" comic books appeared. My drawings at age fourteen were at least as good as Kane's first published stuff. Oh, well. . . .

I still whip out a sketch or two from time to time. Usually an irreverent cartoon of some kind.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 03:37 PM

Really interesting thread and links! I have been making hand-drawn & hand-reproduced greeting cards for several years, even sell a number of them.
I started drawing people's homes, and making greeting cards of the drawings; next i started drawing and reproducing flowers which are native to this area, and are (at least) equally beautiful to the horticultural ones that take so much hothouse care. (I'm really into valuing what's in our backyard, regardless of where we are- i once wrote a paper on "Useful Plants of Urban Waste Places- i.e. vacant lots).
I have 5 samples at a website called www.sleepingbean.com, under "Native Notes". You can get there thru Megacrawler.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: GUEST,Socorro
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 03:40 PM

sorry, did it again - better reset my cookie.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 03:49 PM

interesting that you mention planes Don, I still recall an early formative experience of mine was drawing planes (Russian Migs to be specific). My dad took me to work once when I was 5or6, he was in the army and worked in a printshop. To keep me busy he gave me some pencil and paper for drawing. I started drawing planes, but they were typical kid drawings, one of my dads co-workers came over and said, here do you want to know how to draw a plane so that it looked more real,
and he drew one. ANd I immediately picked up on the differences, foreshortening, perspective etc. although I didnt know these terms.
of course It was a still a while before I could properly draw,
but the more you do the better you get.
Funny how, one little incident can be so influential.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 03:54 PM

Thanks for starting this thread... it's great to see what Mudcatters are doing in the visual arts. I'm afraid that I fall more into the Usetado category, myself. I usetado wood cuts and linoleum cuts, usetado wood carving of animals and birds, usetado instrument making from tin can banjos to dulcimer(singular), usetado sketches and drew a bit. The only stilldoin' are cartoon characters for cards. And not as much of that, anymore. I never tackled oil painting or any of the more "serious" arts like my buddy Bobert. But, I enjoyed making musical instruments... almost all of them as gifts to someone else. I made a dulcimer (I guess I have to make that plural) for my oldest son when he was about five or six... used wood from the changing table I built, when he didn't need it any more, a row of guitar tuning pegs, illustrations de coupaged onto the sides from his favorite Richard Scarry books, and cigar box border on the bottom (which was made out of the bottom of a dresser drawer.) Oh yeah, I usetado pottery... thrown and handbuilt. Made the world's largest collection of dog dishes.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 04:14 PM

nice thread

I do oils, wood decoration on musical instruments and computer paintings.

I recently got in trouble for a 16 sq.ft.painting I did of 9-11.
I even posted it here once.
I painted it 10 years ago and sold it 5 years ago to some nice people in TX. however some guests of theirs believed clues could be unearthed. This makes the 5th investigation of my work and words in 30 years. But its still a free country

Isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 04:24 PM

Photography, web design, sewing (developing patterns for useful objects such as backpacks and cameral lens protectors), garments, decorative sewing, needlework. I'm teaching myself to build furniture now (starting easy, with shelves). I have so much tile left over from the floors, I'll think of something decorative to do with that also. Oh, and I paint--if you count the application of latex semi-gloss to walls!

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Jim Colbert
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 04:45 PM

Well, lessee, I've only been a 'catter for about three minutes- I literally just signed on as a member. I'm an art director for a living, which sometimes has something to do with art... often not! But I enjoy pen and ink or pencil drawing most of all; do a little photography, help my wife out on greeting card projects. I used to love to do sloppy, oil-wash paintings, the kind where the line between watercolor and oil is sort of blurred... I keep intending to play with that some more when we get our extra bedroom cleaned out.

These days I find more satisfaction from the written word though, be it songwriting, plays, short stories...

now in the useta category, throw in block and screen printing, acrylics, watercolor... never had much interest in sculpture; I was always more of a two-dimensional guy. Hmm, maybe that says something!

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 05:08 PM

Welcome to the Mudcat, Jim! Have fun. Make yourself at home. Watch out for a fellow named Spaw whose flatulence is so bad that it can be transmitted by optical fiber!

Bruce

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 05:10 PM

Petr, I had a terrific resource for my drawings back then (circa early Forties). I had a subscription to "Flying" magazine. Each issue had a fold-out page (à la Playmate of the Month) featuring, on one side, a list of dimensions and specifications and several photographs, and on the other, a cutaway drawing—of planes like the Curtiss P-40, the P-51 Mustang, or the B-25 Mitchell bomber. They were so detailed that I sometimes wondered if they were inadvertently revealing military secrets. I used to go over those drawings for hours and make study sketches of them before I'd put them into my strips.

My sister's husband (now a retired airline pilot) used to fly jet fighters (the Northrup F-89 Scorpion) for the Air National Guard. One afternoon a couple of decades ago, he took me out to the Sand Point Naval Air Station in northeast Seattle to see an "antique aircraft." It was a B-25 Mitchell. I had studied photos and drawings of them and had drawn them hundreds of times, but I'd never seen one for real. I spent a heart-pounding, bug-eyed afternoon crawl all around and through that plane. WOW!!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 05:36 PM

ello Jim

I have found some top shelf examples of writing here, but danged if I could ever find them again. Use the trace icon if there is something you may ever want to get back to.

Does photoshop count as art to any curators you know?

Here is one of the first photoshop paintings I ever did with photoshop version 1 !
http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/Rensemaddona.JPG

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: GUEST,Fred Miller
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 05:43 PM

Hey, Bobert, didja live in the fan there? Nice museum in Richmond, under-rated I think.

   I was a drawing major in Murray Ky, majored in naked women, and did a year of printmaking at old Miss, moved to Richmond and sort of abandoned my more ambitious work. Then to louisville.

   Lately started doing portraits of kids, pretty cheap, and plan to do a show, then reconsider my prices. I'm getting a camera and all in one scanner etc. in a few days, might put some of my junk up.

I spent yesterday learning to make fortune cookies, photo'd the first success, today carved red guitar picks into hearts for my daughter to give the girls in her class as valentine necklaces. I'm both a teamster and a seamster.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Little Robyn
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 05:54 PM

I've been interested in arty crafty stuff all my life, tho' these days I'm concentrating mainly on portraits in oils.
I'm also a smallpiper and (shhhh, don't tell anyone) I play squeeze box for the local morris dancers.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 06:29 PM

Does cartooning count?

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 06:42 PM

GUEST, Fred Miller,

Yeah, how could ya' not live in the Fan District but then found this really secluded and cool place on Fulton Hill where there were three houses and a carriage house on 11 wooded acres on the western side of Fulton Hill. We slowly but surely took over all of the houses with our friends movin' in everytime one came up for rent and had a nice genuine hippie commune 4 miles east of the downtown. Best thing about it is that being at the end of a dead end street it seemed totally isolated.

The museum you remember is the Virginia Museum located on the Boulavard. Yeah, nice place. I used to see plays at their theater.

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 07:27 PM

Yup. Cartooning is a visual art.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 07:45 PM

Oh, good. Thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Richie
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 11:01 PM

I studied artwork in college. After college I was selling artwork and playing the guitar. I've taught both music and art classes. I decided to follow music and teach guitar and related instruments.

I've been working on two large paintings one of "Heaven" the other "Hell" for some time now. I just don't have the time finish them now.

I'd like to do a series of folk song related painting similar to Benton's and have some ideas for the series.

I also love to write and have published a few guitar books. My three fiction books are unpublished.

-Richie

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Cluin
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 11:46 PM

Rodin never finished his Gates of Hell, Richie. It's process, not product.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 11:59 PM

Rodin never finished his Gates, but trying to figure out what he did finish is a real feat. It seems like a fair percentage of "his" bronzes, and a few marbles and plasters, were actually cast/cut/molded a few decades after he died. Sometimes the process goes on and on.

Sometimes just planting the idea is creative, though.(?)

John

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Coyote Breath
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 12:02 AM

37 strange years as a graphic artist (in promotion and marketing departments) and a great deal longer creating "images" depicting everything from my take on the Space Program to Civil Rights to The War in Vietnam to the general insanity that is our world and many, many, many, highly personal visual images done in every media I could grasp the utilization of (and that is most of them).

It never stops.

Music is the "sound track" of my life and writing is my argument with God.

CB

PS He is winning.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Cluin
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 12:03 AM

Definitely, John. It's the most creative, in fact. Since it's all artificial, the product NEVER matches the intent or conception.

Subject: RE: BS: How Many 'Catters Do Visual Art?
From: Will Bakker
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 12:13 AM

I'm a retired television designer in the Netherlands. Made a lot of station identities and title sequenses. I visited the conferences of the BDA, the Broadcast Designers Association, in Detroit, Washington, Seattle, Las Vegas and Los Angeles. So maybe I met a potential Mudcatter there!