Folk Awards - Best Duo

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: Silas
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 07:45 AM

Well, as I said earlier, I like JON Boden, I know he is passionate about his music, but so are most people at his level in the profession. The problem is, if you are going to have these awards, is that by giving the award to someone who, with the best will in the world, is not the best singer, you deprive a more worthy candidate from a more deserved prize.

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: GUEST,Henryp
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 07:55 AM

I'd like to see artists restricted to one award each year.

I'd also like the winner of an award to be excluded from consideration in next year's competition.

Hopefully, this would spread the titles round a bit more.

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 08:47 AM

"someone who, with the best will in the world, is not the best singer"
Crumbs, I hope that nobody tells the 60+people who have already paid for tickets to see Jon at our place on Sunday night.

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: Folkiedave
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 09:22 AM

Been packing out venues for about eight years. And will continue to do so IMHO for as long as he wants to.

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: Silas
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 12:37 PM

Jeeze.

I said he was not the best singer - do you seriously think he is? I'm sure he doesn't! I could easily name you ten male singer who are better. That does not mean he is no good,far from it, he is brilliant, but let's not kid ourselves, he is not the best.

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 01:45 PM

Silas, you may be focusing on the 'singing' part of the title too much.

I personally think Jon IS a truly fantastic singer, if not to everyone's taste (but you can't please all of the people..).

His timbre, delivery, expression and originality combine to powerful effect, and he always delivers his chosen material brilliantly (what other definition of great singing is there)?

It's not bel canto, but the adjective might be clue here.

My interpretation of the award, however, is that it's not about vocal technique.

It's about being a 'folk singer,' as in the job description - all of it.

No folk singer has delivered more than Jon in the last twelve months - his workload has been prodigious (terrifying, actually) and he's made a lot of good new things happen, and happen extremely effectively.

He IS at least best equal best folk singer at the moment (and after 'best equal,' in a game like this it has to be a lottery, naturally).

I'll vote for that.

(Jon, you can leave the used fivers in the normal place ;-)

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: GUEST,Jeeze
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 02:21 PM

Just curious who your "ten male singer who are better" would be?

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: SunrayFC
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 02:38 PM

Frankly I don't get all this.

It's like saying "I voted conservative- how come we got a labour government?"

The judges whoever they are, are the judges. The reasons they choose who they choose are known to them and them only.

I bet if any one of the above won an award the tune would change.

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: The Sandman
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 02:47 PM

I would refuse such an award.

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 03:10 PM

"I said he was not the best singer - do you seriously think he is? I'm sure he doesn't! I could easily name you ten male singer who are better. That does not mean he is no good,far from it, he is brilliant, but let's not kid ourselves, he is not the best"

Actually, the title is not the "best" folk dinger; it's "Folk Singer of the Year". As Tom says, Jon Boden has done huge amounts this year. He has worked with Bellowhead, Spiers and Boden and the Remnant Kings - each delivering material that is fresh, timely and important. His work continues to draw in legions of non-folkies, not least among them Martin Green, who is Head of the 2012 Olympic Opening Ceremonies. As far as I know, Bellowhead is pretty much the only folk band that is really on his radar, and they are probably our best hope for getting any representation of folk into the Olympic Opening Ceremonies. It may not happen at all, but if it does, it's because Bellowhead register on the radar beyond the folk world in a way that 95% of folk bands do not.

And apart from that, Jon is a wonderful proponent of traditional music and a damn fine singer.

So, for all of these reasons, I am proud to have voted for him.

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 03:30 PM

...and to top it all, he's an out-and-proud Bellamist. Good man!

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: Folkiedave
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 04:13 PM

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: Ruth Archer - PM
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 03:10 PM

What she said!!

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: GUEST,Silas
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 07:59 AM

OK - I give in.

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 08:29 AM

"Bring on the folk-brut revival!"
Hi Karate?
Well done all the winners,
Will see some of you in the pub later.

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 08:53 AM

'es a good lad that Jon Boden, fully deserves his awards.

Dave H

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: GUEST,Mark Stevens
Date: 05 Feb 10 - 09:41 PM

dear Ruth 'ooooh-noo!' Archer,

As I've implied before somewhere; I don't really bother much with Folkies or Folk Clubs nowadays, I found them too clicky, boring [Borfolk indeed..] and insular.
So the wearing of FAF (sic) tee-shirts doesn't really bother me. I've never seen anyone at my local pub(s) or Waitrose/Sainsburys/UKIP Member managed farmshop wearing one ..?

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 06 Feb 10 - 09:33 AM

Mark "BNP member" Stevens, it's hardly surprising that FAF as a movement is not something which attracts your support.

Subject: RE: Folk Awards - Best Duo
From: GUEST,Mark Stevens
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 08:23 PM

Ruth "oooh-noooo!" Archer,

Yep.