Subject: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Nick Date: 28 Mar 03 - 08:10 AM I ran a poll earlier in the year for best Irish balladeer, Patsy Watchorn won. Vote for best Scottish Balladeer Nick |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: curmudgeon Date: 28 Mar 03 - 08:44 AM Nick -- I tried to vote, but not having Outlook Express I was unable to do so. Please register my write in vote for Norman Kennedy. Thanks -- Tom |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Nick Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:17 AM You can just email me at oxbownick1@theballadeers.com with your votes. Tom...I've added your vote. Nick |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,boab d Date: 28 Mar 03 - 11:03 AM Gordon Menzies with out a question. A really nice guy and a fantastic lyricist and medly maker second to none. Dylan |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST Date: 28 Mar 03 - 11:05 AM andy m. stewart |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Susanne (skw) Date: 29 Mar 03 - 05:37 PM Brian McNeill |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Leadfingers Date: 29 Mar 03 - 06:08 PM I could be terribly pedantic and ask for a definition of 'Balladeer' but I ont and will simply vote for Moira who does Ballads SO well |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: toadfrog Date: 29 Mar 03 - 06:46 PM That would be Jeannie Robertson, although I'm not sure she's still alive. |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Susanne (skw) Date: 29 Mar 03 - 06:53 PM Sadly, she's not, toadfrog. She'd be over a hundred years old, I think. But it's a valid question: Do we include deceased balladeers? |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Boab Date: 30 Mar 03 - 02:01 AM I know Eric Bogle is now an Aussie citizen, but he still carries the auld Lallans tongue o' Broughton, Peebles--shire around with him------ |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Peter Kasin Date: 30 Mar 03 - 02:27 AM Including deceased: Jeannie Robertson Not including deceased: English language: Dick Gaughan. Gaelic: Christine Primrose, Catherine-Ann MacPhee. -Chanteyranger |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Sloop Date: 30 Mar 03 - 05:36 AM Isla StClare when she's in her traditional mode; Rory MacEwan who dies young. Sloop |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Sliding Down The Bannister At My Auntie's House Date: 30 Mar 03 - 05:42 AM Andy Stewart |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Zany Mouse Date: 30 Mar 03 - 05:49 AM I would like to register my vote for Moira Craig. If you are including deceased then I would put in a second vote for Lizzie Higgins (I presume she is dead as I haven't heard anything of her for years). ZM |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Shonagh Date: 30 Mar 03 - 10:06 AM Jock Duncan, Jeannie Robertson, Stanley Robertson, the list goes on..... |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: paulo Date: 30 Mar 03 - 12:19 PM No longer doing folk - Barbara Dickson |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Rara Avis Date: 30 Mar 03 - 01:23 PM Andy M Stewart |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Art Thieme Date: 30 Mar 03 - 01:31 PM Jeannie Robertson |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: mg Date: 30 Mar 03 - 03:05 PM Kenneth McKellar |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Linda Kelly Date: 30 Mar 03 - 03:26 PM Robin Laing |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Folkiedave Date: 30 Mar 03 - 04:00 PM The incomparable Jeannie Robertson and her daughter. Willie Scott also deceased. Dick Gaughan. Dave |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 30 Mar 03 - 04:34 PM Impossible to believe that no one's nominated the late Ewan MacColl. His politics aside, an amazing and influential collector, scholar, and performer. Just listen sometime. |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 30 Mar 03 - 11:21 PM Ed Miller Seamus |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Little Robyn Date: 31 Mar 03 - 01:59 AM He may have sounded Scottish on some recordings but Ewan MacColl was born in Salford, Manchester (and his real name was Jimmy Miller). So does he still qualify? My vote goes to the Fisher family - all of them. |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Roberto Date: 31 Mar 03 - 10:26 AM Little Robyn wrote that Ewan MacColl may have sounded Scottish on some recordings... I wouldn't have voted, but I can't accept such an opinion, so I vote for Ewan MacColl among the revival singers. And John Strachan and Jeannie Robertson among the traditional singers. Roberto |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST Date: 31 Mar 03 - 10:52 AM My God, Kenneth MacKellar. I have not heard him in years..ah I loved Sweet Lass of Richmond Hill. Is any of his stuff available. However, I would vote fro Mary Jane Lammond..but she is Nova Scotian and not Scottish. |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: John MacKenzie Date: 31 Mar 03 - 11:56 AM Kenneth MacKellar's unaccompanied recording of "She moved through the Fair" is a joy to the ears, and the soul. Apart from that I too would vote for, 1 Archie Fisher,2 Michael Marra,3 Dick Gaughan. Giok PS Ewan McColl does not qualify, "The Dirty old Town" is not in Scotland. |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,Roberto Date: 31 Mar 03 - 12:19 PM Giok, as well as Little Robyn, maybe never heard recordings by Ewan MacColl of Scots traditional songs, such as the ones he made for Topic, among which The Jacobite Rebellion; for Folkways (the three with the Child Ballads; Scottish Popular Songs; Bothy Ballads of Scotland, etc); for Tradition (Classic Scots Ballads), for Argo (the 10 Lps of The Long Harvest, with many Scots ballads), and many, many more. I think maybe they know Ewan MacColl for his own compositions, or for recordings with English Folk Songs, for example The Manchester Angel, but not for recordings of Scots songs, because I just can't understand their scornful comments about Ewan MacColl as a Scots balladeer. For sure, Archie Fisher and Dick Gaughan wouldn't agree with them. Roberto |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Little Robyn Date: 31 Mar 03 - 02:06 PM I have heard Ewan MacColl's Scottish recordings and really love them, but the fact that he was born in England, is not a Scot, that is what I am questioning. Can you be Scots by adoption? Does that make Eric Bogle Australian by adoption? And if so, does he still qualify? Or does simply being a singer of Scottish songs put you in the running for this award? |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 31 Mar 03 - 02:46 PM His parents were Scottish. Let's not quibble too much. |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 01 Apr 03 - 02:35 AM Ed Miller Seamus |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Micca Date: 01 Apr 03 - 03:46 AM Moira Craig |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: John MacKenzie Date: 01 Apr 03 - 06:29 AM I have heard Ewan McColl's Scottish stuff, I have his books, and I named my son Ewan in his honour, so I'm not exactly anti him, just his inclusion as a Scottish/Scots Balladeer. He was a very complex character, and I find his need to be accepted as a Scot under an assumed name, as opposed to using his own equally Scottish, birth name curious. It should be possible to establish ones credentials through ones talent, and he undoubtedly had plenty of that. Anyway I digress, for my way of thinking, the term Scots balladeer in this instance, should mean native born. Slainthe....Giok |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: JedMarum Date: 01 Apr 03 - 08:53 AM Ed Miller |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Fay Date: 01 Apr 03 - 09:01 AM Alyth McCormack aint bad. |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST,John Barden Date: 01 Apr 03 - 09:38 AM Ian Bruce - of course |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Bill D Date: 01 Apr 03 - 11:17 AM *sigh*...another silly popularity poll, with no categories or distinctions. These are usually 'won' by the most famous or the current 'hot' recording artist, which tells you nothing. Does "balladeer" = "singer"? Putting Ed Miller and Andy Stewart and Jeanie Robertson in the same list is like comparing beer & wine & whisky and voting on "best alcoholic drink"...all can be good, but they are simply too different. (what, me opinionated?? nawwwwww) |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Little Robyn Date: 01 Apr 03 - 05:05 PM OK, I vote for Jimmy Miller, singer of Scots songs. |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Mary Humphreys Date: 01 Apr 03 - 05:24 PM Has no-one ever heard Ellen Mitchell sing? She has the most wonderful anc compelling version of 'The Mother's Malison' ( Clyde's Waters). And Moria Craig definitely deserves another mention. A hauntingly beautiful voice. I am torn between the two of them. |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 01 Apr 03 - 05:27 PM Ed Miller Seamus |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Celtaddict Date: 01 Apr 03 - 11:42 PM For heaven's sake, listen to Seamus. Ed Miller. |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 01 Apr 03 - 11:45 PM Thanks, Jed and Celtaddict. Ed Miller Seamus |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Peter Kasin Date: 02 Apr 03 - 02:40 AM Ok, he didn't get my #1 vote, but I like that rambling lowlander alot, myself. His rendition of "A Man's A Man For A' That" at a concert in California a few years ago was the best I ever heard. Ed Miller, that is. |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: John MacKenzie Date: 02 Apr 03 - 04:28 AM Who's Ed Miller? Giok |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 02 Apr 03 - 01:15 PM Never heard of him. Seamus |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Abby Sale Date: 02 Apr 03 - 01:53 PM There are a huge number of superb Scottish ballad-singers (or do you just mean "singer?" I think 'balladeer' could mean either. The tradition is remarkable. Re MacColl, I strongly recommend a visit to the wonderful comments Gaughan makes in his "Links in the Chain section: Clicky. Actually, Gaughan (and you must see him at the top of this "best" topic) has wonderful comments about a bunch of "best singers" there. And he ought to know. You could add not only Jeanie and her daughter and son but many of her kith & kin - Higgins, Stewart. I was raised on MacColl and have over 60 of his records but hearing the 'gentle' singers like Enoch Kent, Gaughan, Norman Kennedy raised it to a new height for me. I find I have no favorite - I might prefer one singer on one song and another on another song. I think it's a big mistake to suggest a possible favorite. Six or ten votes for a Hall of Fame, maybe. A favorite is absurdly limiting. How about Gaelic singers? Bothy singers? The styles vary too much to restrict to a single person. But I voted anyway. For Ann Neilson (erstwhile of 'Stramash'). Based, sadly, on hearing only a single song, "The Banks o Skene" on one CD, Folk Songs of North-East Scotland. It's an utter knockout of a rendition (and a CD full of superb ballad singing.) I'd love to hear more of her. |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST Date: 02 Apr 03 - 01:57 PM ed miller is a mate of Seamus'...LOL. |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: John MacKenzie Date: 02 Apr 03 - 02:36 PM No;really??!!!! Life's full of surprises. Giok {Who is he though?] |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: GUEST Date: 02 Apr 03 - 02:37 PM http://www.songsofscotland.com/ |
Subject: RE: vote for Best Scottish Balladeer From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 02 Apr 03 - 03:52 PM The question is very subjective but I would first vote for Flora MacNeil If a Scot by heritage rather than birth would qualify, my second choice would be John Allan Cameron. ( He even appeared on the Grand Ole Opry wearing a kilt. In any case one that was celtic long before celtic was cool) Slainte, Sandy |
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