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Subject: Why do we mudcat? From: khandu Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:45 PM There is the obvious reasons, lyric or music search, etc. But many threads (if not most) have little dealing with music. > We have the philosophers, the Spiritual, the good ole boys; people from every avenue. > We keep coming back, selectively responding to threads. Some for fun, some for needed help or advice. > I have seen real compassion for people we do not know. I have seen anger, impertinence, rudeness. I have seen good time humor. But why do YOU mudcat? I guess I do it for many reasons; to learn,to pass some time, but probably mostly for a sense of affirmation. Why do YOU? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Little Neophyte Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:53 PM Beyond the endless music knowledge I gain from being involved in this group, I would say I mudcat because I am a Mudcatter. I feel part of this community and it means a great deal to me to share, support and hang-out with my Mudcat buddies. Bonnie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Roger in Sheffield Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:04 PM To see the other points of view out there, to argue my corner and often lose, mainly there is nothing much on the TV or Radio right now and my Niamh Parsons CD hasn't arrived yet .....oh and to wish Kendall a speedy recovery Roger |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: catspaw49 Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:13 PM Welcome to the 'Cat. We come here because of every reason you mention and myriad more. We come here because most of us never find this much intelligence, knowledge, caring, compassion, humor, and diversity anywhere in the 3-D world. I come here to be challenged and to learn. I come here to give what I can and to teach. I come here to laugh and to cry, to try to brighten another's day and have my own brightened. I come here to think, to rant and rave, to get angry, and to get good advice when life has blinded me to the truth. I come here for the companionship and I come for the music. I come here to listen to the depth of folk knowledge from Rick, to see the true compassion of kat, to see the wisdom of Art and Sandy, the bottomless heart of Mick, the brilliance of Peter, the poetry of Shambles, the exuberance of Joe Offer, the earthy beauty of WW, the talent and wicked intelligence of the Swans, the cool logic of Jeri, the mature innocense of Bonnie, the common sense and humor of Leej, the straight truths of Sinsull, the kindness and logic of Bill D.............and I could keep on listing these things into the hundreds. So many fine people in one place. And the true beauty is that for every attribute I give to one of the above, I could give to all of the above!!! Where else can you find this? I could list over a hundred 'Catters and tell you why I value each one. And even better? The place has a core group of denizens, but people come here every day and add to this wonderful mix.....and there's always room for another. I still go back to something Sandy Paton once said: "I always wanted to live somewhere like that." ............or maybe I'm just bored. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Ebbie Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:20 PM Catspaw, thou art an eloquent man! And sooooo right. If I had to use one word to describe this site's importance to me, I would say 'Connection'. Connection to humanity in all its glory. Ebbie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:20 PM All of the above, also to ask naive questions,gain more musical knowledge and give an airing to some poor old jokes that don't otherwise get out much! And, providing I ignore some threads, it stops me from feeling ANGRY RtS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: catspaw49 Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:24 PM AND SKIFF....What would the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed do without YOU? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: MMario Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:33 PM "I come here to be challenged and to learn. I come here to give what I can and to teach. I come here to laugh and to cry, to try to brighten another's day and have my own brightened. I come here to think, to rant and rave, to get angry, and to get good advice when life has blinded me to the truth. I come here for the companionship and I come for the music. " *Standing ovation* I hope someday to see that carved on a sign over the door to the MudCat Concert hall. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Wesley S Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:33 PM I'm obsessed with "roots" music. Blues, jugband, celtic, folk, gospel, bluegrass, oldtime, and all the others. People naturally want to hang out with people of similar interests - and this is where I find them. I learn a lot here about the music I love. And one or twice a week I'm reminded of a record in my collection that I haven't listened to in ages because of one of the conversations here. The folks here for the most part are well informed about a varity of subjects that I want to know more about. And , most of the folks I meet here are people I'd have over for dinner and a pickin' session if the distences allowed. Besides - I can't dance and it's too wet to plow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: mousethief Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:36 PM Because I'm interested in learning, hearing, and playing-and-singing folk music and blues, and because (most of) the people here have been wonderfully nice and supportive.
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: GUEST,Greyeyes Date: 03 Oct 00 - 03:56 PM I've posted on a number of different chat groups, most of them seem to degenerate into adolescent abuse very quickly. I came here originally looking for the lyrics to a song (which I found in the forum database in about 15 seconds) and stayed around as the level of the conversation and good manners was so obviously higher than anything I had come across before. It made me laugh, it made me think, it made me want to be part of it, so now I've joined. I have my reservations, but they are chiefly to do with the horribly addictive nature of the forum and my phone bill. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: paddymac Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:02 PM A thousand "amens" to 'Spaw's brilliant post. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: katlaughing Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:12 PM Jaysus, Spaw! They're never gonna believe you are the evil twin of us, if ya keep that up! What Spaw said.... kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Dave Swan Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:14 PM What kat said about what Spaw said... Dave |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: GUEST,Sailor Dan at work Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:20 PM What Dave said about what kat said about what spaw said. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Morticia Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:23 PM I think therefore I Mudcat......all of the above with bells on.....aside from which I get to snog all these great people....and cry on their shoulder....and ask their advice....and help out ( occasionally)....and write silly episodes to silly stories.....and feel part of a community of people I am proud to know. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Catrin Date: 03 Oct 00 - 05:30 PM What Sailor Dan said about what Dave said about what kat said about what spaw said........... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Naemanson Date: 03 Oct 00 - 05:42 PM Morticia! You beat me to it. I wanted to say "I think therefore I Mudcat!" But all that has been said goes for me as well. I've been here for a few months (goodness it's been 6 months already!) and have enjoyed every minute I spend here. I have learned and grown (and groaned) with all the others. I have cursed flamers, fought the Taliban with Sergeant Kat, read the threads, asked questions and got answers. Long live the Mudcat! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Eric the Viking Date: 03 Oct 00 - 05:49 PM Because there ain't nothing like it in the world. Where even after the roughest day, or blackest hour you can ask, say, inform, listen,find out but most of all share. When you are high (NOT LIKE THAT!!-I mean happy) or low or just fair to middling, even when work is filling my almost every spare moment there is still time to log on. I might not log onto anything else, but I am always here at sometime-even if I've nothing to add, but just want to find out. It's just a great place to be with such an excellent bunch of people, even though we sometimes differ with each other. But that is not suprising when all humans are unique-just like Mudcat. Eric |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Mbo Date: 03 Oct 00 - 05:59 PM Because they're my only friends, and we get to talk about music & other stuff! Did I mention that they RULE (even though they don't like my music!). --Mattador |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: bbelle Date: 03 Oct 00 - 06:01 PM It's been said about a dozen times before: I came here for the music and I stayed because of the people. I have friends here, for whom I care very much, and since they don't live closeby, I meet them under the Mudcat Moon. And that's why there is BS. You can only sustain a friendship so long talking about the origin of a folksong. You gotta dip below the surface because that's how you get to know your friends. Damn! I'm a lucky woman. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: mousethief Date: 03 Oct 00 - 06:06 PM You are lucky, moonjen (except the gravity thing)! As are we all. This is a great electronic family.
Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: bflat Date: 03 Oct 00 - 06:09 PM Because I love music and being around intelligent, helpful, thoughtful people. Because this is a terrific resource. Because I'm not an island. Because sometimes I actually feel like I know you. And, I like that. Thanks for being here, all of you. bflat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: khandu Date: 03 Oct 00 - 07:53 PM I am being very blessed by these responses! khandu |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Troll Date: 03 Oct 00 - 08:02 PM I dunno. Beats workin' fer a livin'. troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: thosp Date: 03 Oct 00 - 08:21 PM WHY!WHY!YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY!??I'LL TELL YOU WHY!!!YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY!!!WHY!what was the question peace (Y) thosp |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: bflat Date: 03 Oct 00 - 08:28 PM Keep off the caffine Thosp! Calm....calm....sea breezy....surf sounds....repeat, repeat. We are here for you. What's up? bflat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Tinker Date: 03 Oct 00 - 08:38 PM Because it's such a blessing to find a community in any reality that is secure enough to truely offer hospitality to all who happen across the threshold. Sometimes I may just peek in the window, sometimes I may knock on the door, but the welcome mat is always out. Tinker |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Bill D Date: 03 Oct 00 - 09:24 PM all what everybody said.......besides, I sat and watched the whole thing get started as 2 people tried to compare looseleaf songbooks...and I GOTTA watch and make sure it all keeps on-track!..(well, I saw the beginning of the database...and heard reports of the search that ended with finding Max to host this adventure. Never imagined where it would go) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Naemanson Date: 03 Oct 00 - 09:34 PM I don't have any experence with other forums but are there any out there where the members go out of their way to meet face to face like Mudcatters do? Consider the parties, the festivals, the get togethers, the get aways, the adventure trips and tours. Mudcatters make a point to meet in the real world and get to know one another outside of the electronic stream. We are joined by our music and the desire to share that music. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: MMario Date: 03 Oct 00 - 09:42 PM Naemason - there are a few others I know of. some of the cooking forums get together to cook meals; the alt-fairs-renaissance news group stages "invasions" of renaissance faires around the country (invasion in this case just means scheduling so as many get to meet as possible). But the mudcat seems to be pretty unique. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: WyoWoman Date: 03 Oct 00 - 09:50 PM All of the above, of course. And every now and then something Catspaw says makes me spray coffee out my nostrils. WwW |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: WyoWoman Date: 03 Oct 00 - 10:13 PM And on a more serious note -- I was just telling a new friend today at lunch about the Mudcat. And I absolutely got chill bumps talking about the idea that we're talking right now, this very minute, with people all over the world. And even if it's asynchronous (which I'm actually learning to spell without looking it up), it's still a conversation. Bill Sables can be writing something to us over in the U.K., and Alison will respond from Australia (as soon as she gets back from Ireland) and then Escamillo pops up with something from South America and Rick Fielding adds his two-bits from Canada ... and on and on. It just amazes me how small our world is when we're in this community. And it gives me an unbelievable travel bug. Since Allan C and Bill Sables Mudcat World Domination Tour this summer, I've become convinced that every vacation for the rest of my life will be a musical vacation, and that I'll try to plan my travels around places where I'm most likely to bump into a klatche of 'Catters. (and, if you're ever in the Rocky Mountains ... ) If I won the lottery tomorrow, I would instantly start a Mudcateers World Domination Tour fund so we could all just freely visit each other any ol' time we wanted to step out of the Cyber world for a while and into the 3D one. And then I'd buy a big bus and paint it in paisley and off we'd go ... (wait ... that's another movie ...) I've just never had the opportunity to hang out with this many people who loved music as much as I do -- and having run into Mudcat almost two years ago (!!!), I've expanded my musical knowledge unbelievably. And spent WAY too much money on CDs, but hey... every silver lining has its cloud. I'm one of those people who'd probably go to school for the rest of her life if I didn't have to make a living, so the Mudcat fulfills that desire to keep learning new stuff. For every genre or musical form represented here, there's an entire history to learn. Very cool ... I've learned to play the guitar (somewhat) over the past few months, thanks to encouragement by people here. I've certainly learned many, many new songs. So, in spite of the headaches and occasional spats among posters, this place continues to enrich me in ways I simply couldn't have imagined -- and didn't even fully grok until I'd been around for several months. I make my living sitting in front of my computer and I actually have bought a kitchen timer to make sure I don't spend more time on the Mudcat than I do making a living. But I'm not addicted ... no, really. Wouldn't YOU rather sit in a coffee shop and shoot the breeze than work for a living???
www (worldwidewyo)
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: John Hardly Date: 03 Oct 00 - 10:20 PM Because I'm very isolated from others who enjoy the kinds of music I enjoy (sniff) No one to play music with and no one to talk music with. But like moonjen said you can talk that out and still want to connect--I would say that good music, like all good art, is not about itself. It's about life and everything in it. John millring Hardly |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: catspaw49 Date: 03 Oct 00 - 10:21 PM World Wide Wyo? Ya' know, you got more names than any ten of us put together, except for maybe Bonnie. But I loved what you said.............not all that crap you just wrote, I mean the bit about getting coffee out of your nostrils. Okay, let's face it folks.....This place is unique. I can't believe that this place has drawn so many wondeful folks.......simply unbelievable. WW spoke it well and I also thank all of you for your comments on my post above.........It all comes from the heart.....everyone's heart. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: WyoWoman Date: 03 Oct 00 - 10:49 PM "We are the world. We are the pee-pul...." WorldwideWyoWomanPansyRueTwidgettEarthyBeautytoYou,CatFace... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: CarolC Date: 03 Oct 00 - 10:51 PM Because you just never know who is going to show up. Do you know what I mean? Because this is where the best people are. Because of the kind of community this is. Because I've never encountered a group of people who are, as a group, more literate, articulate, interesting, and intelligent, than the people here in the Mudcat. Because I can communicate with and even sometimes make friends with people who live all over the world, in all different kinds of cultures. Because I can talk about Finnish music with an Australian ex-patriate who lives in Austria. (Did I get that right Andy M.? Sorry, can't do the dots over your last name.) Because there are people here who like accordions. And because you're here, now. Best wishes, Carol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Troll Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:43 PM WHO likes accordians? troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: CarolC Date: 03 Oct 00 - 11:48 PM Sorry, Troll. Somebody was supposed to tell you, but I guess they forgot. Everyone in the Mudcat likes accordions now. Carol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall) Date: 04 Oct 00 - 12:00 AM What Catrín said about what Sailor Dan said about whatDave said about what Kat/Katlaughing said about what Spaw said except different. When I got here these people were a bunch of words on a screen, but they have become as real to me as any in the "3-D world". I can't wait to get home sometimes and check out what's going on in this community. Sometimes I post something and I can't wait to see who posts what in reply. You can look at the posted list at the top of a thread and see who's been there and you say "This oughta be good!" I have friends here that I've never met in person but nonetheless they're friends. I've had back and forth posting conversations with people that have been a blast. I've learned the dangers of conjunctions and the necessity of punctuation. I've found that when you hurt my friends here, it hurts me as well. All this leads me to call this at least a community but closer to the truth, a family. I'm glad to be a part of it. And besides, the only time the voices in my head stop is when I'm here. Slán, Rich |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Metchosin Date: 04 Oct 00 - 12:39 AM All of the above. This place and these people make me think and feel and because of that, I write. Perhaps selfish, because I always feel I am taking more than I give. Thank you people. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: khandu Date: 04 Oct 00 - 01:09 AM I love your responses. Damn, I bet if Gore and Bush read this, they would be asking, "Why don't WE mudcat?" (or at least ask "How can we tax the mudcatters and still get their vote?") khandu |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: DougR Date: 04 Oct 00 - 01:38 AM I guess because, as the token Republican in the Mudcat, I enjoy getting beat up on. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: katlaughing Date: 04 Oct 00 - 01:44 AM Get our vote, hell! If they came here, they'd just roll over and show us their bellies and beg us to rule the world!!!**BG**
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: katlaughing Date: 04 Oct 00 - 01:48 AM DougeR, didn't see your posting before I clicked mine. In spite of that, you DO know that we luvya, doncha?*BG* It wouldn't be the Mudcat without you...who would apply the oil and massage we women's shoulders in the Tavern? Who would delight us with our own Live Debate with you and Kendall going head-to-head? Who would share so much with us as oyu do, in such heartfelt ways? luvyakat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Naemanson Date: 04 Oct 00 - 05:59 AM This conversation has raised a question for me that is a thread all its own. C'mon over and check it out. How do you tell your friends about the Mudcat? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Skipjack K8 Date: 04 Oct 00 - 06:41 AM Troll, Everyone on Mudcat loves accordions more than trolls! Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: Patrish(inactive) Date: 04 Oct 00 - 07:03 AM I have met some wonderful people here, who have become real friends. It makes a pleasant change to be able to talk about folk music without being ridiculed (well not often) - some think its big jumpers and fingers in ears. I like the easy way we all get on, the personalities, the worries, the arguments, the knowledge, the tolerance - all sorts of things. Its not perfect, but so what, I wouldn't change a thing. "Group hug" Patrish xxxxx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Oct 00 - 11:57 AM On second thought, I have no idea. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Why do we mudcat? From: MMario Date: 04 Oct 00 - 12:04 PM huzzah! 'spaw's back to ~as normal as he ever gets~!
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