 sj |
||
|
||
Goodbye part II
|
|
|
Subject: Goodbye part II From: thosp Date: 18 Oct 00 - 01:40 AM i hope this works- use the blueclicketything to Mbo Goodbye part I peace (Y) thosp -- PA -- |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Escamillo Date: 18 Oct 00 - 03:59 AM As far as I can see, Mbo has left, insulting us all in his last message (as he did several times in other threads). It's so annoying, that I can't find a reason for a reply, despite everyone's simphaty to him. I personally may not deserve any special consideration, but I know many people here who deserve respect and gratitude. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: alison Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:04 AM He hasn't gone... just changed ID..... he's still here ... and posting..... but I'm surprised he hasn't apologised..... slainte alison |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:35 AM At the end of the day, does it Matt R (OK, tame pun, but let's all move on, huh?) RtS |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Lena Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:49 AM I know I'm twice as boring when I'm repetitive,but.I don't care about late postings or changes of names,where's Mbo,can any Carolina Mudcatter bring him back on the keyboard?1 Unless some miss Meebo is taking his time.... Sigh.Sob. Lena |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: alison Date: 18 Oct 00 - 06:20 AM He's here Lena... look for posts from Matt_R..... slainte alison |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Naemanson Date: 18 Oct 00 - 06:31 AM Roger, puns should never be apologized for! Puns are the lowest form of wit and the best. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Matt_R Date: 18 Oct 00 - 12:57 PM Well hasn't THIS been fun? I'm going to submit this whole thread to my psychology teacher, Dr.Barton! Let me clarify for you all! 1.) I did not "insult" anyone. I merely posted the lyrics to the Oasis song "Married With Children" from their first album Definately Maybe from 1994. Most of you have heard me sing this song countless times in HearMe. Why does it all bother you now? Could it be that you really just ignore when I sing Oasis? D'yer think? Heck, even my sister knows the song by heart, she calls it "The Goodbye Song" and even mistook the CD for ME playing it. 2.) I'm surprised that no one analyzed the song as they did with songs like "Idiot Wind" and "Don't Think Twice"! A simple internet search WOULD have revealed the lyrics, all of which I did NOT include, on purpous! If you had followed a lead and founf the rest of the lyrics
"And it would be nice to be alone You may have got a different reaction. 3.) None of my own words or intentions we written in the thread. 4.) Another quick search on the Oasis FAQ would REVEAL that the lyrics to the song are based on an argument Noel Gallagher had with his old girlfriend. The song is from HER perspective, THUS ERGO the person singing is the one's who music is being called "shite" NOT the person you are singing TO. 5.) I posted it with intent on leaving Mudcat for a bit, what with that insane project I had over the weekend. "Married With Children" IS a humourous song, and very jazzy & jolly. I'm sorry that none of you could saw it that way. A life-shaking incident HAS hit me, so I decided to return, deciding I needed as many friends as possible, as Matt R, thus dumping the old Mbo image, MUCH as Oasis did, from their old "drunk druggie lads" image to "clean sober progressively futuristic music (with a bit of an attitude still)" with their new album. 6.) Thank you for all your feedback. I had no idea some people saw me in such a worthless and annoying fashion. But then again, you know what some might say. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Roger in Sheffield Date: 18 Oct 00 - 01:40 PM I have not read all the previous thread. The bits I saw seem to reveal that you have upset some people along the way. It is the most difficult thing to apologise but sometimes it is necessary Let me know when you are going to do some Tom Petty and I will try and stay up to listen Roger |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 18 Oct 00 - 01:43 PM Good |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: harpgirl Date: 18 Oct 00 - 01:55 PM Matt, surely you can understand why I didn't know those were song lyrics? I thought it was something you wrote by way of pissing on the sofa as you left! |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Little Hawk Date: 18 Oct 00 - 02:18 PM Bloody amazing, isn't it? Let's all go down to the virtual tavern and quaff a few and forget about it. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: mousethief Date: 18 Oct 00 - 02:32 PM Now I'm going to get you confused with DougR. Isn't that just like a Wednesday.
Alex |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: GUEST,kendall Date: 18 Oct 00 - 02:50 PM sorry Matt, that was me again, not harpgirl |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: SINSULL Date: 18 Oct 00 - 02:55 PM wHAT ABOUT THOSE OF US WHO WERE CONCERNED, SUPPORTIVE, PLEASED IF YOU WERE PLEASED, ETC..... wELCOME BACK, mATT. i MISSED YOU. Damn Capslock! |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: hesperis Date: 18 Oct 00 - 02:55 PM Well, Matt, you could have considered the general paranoid nature of the Mudcat.... and put in all the lyrics. I avoided the original Goodbye thread until flattop told me about it, because I thought it was just another person leaving in a painful way. Howver, you are still here, and that is good. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: sophocleese Date: 18 Oct 00 - 03:07 PM hesperis, you beat me to it. Glad you're still with us Matt, and now you will know for the future that partial lyrics with no context given are liable to great misinterpretation. Next time just say what you want to say straight out if you don't want to be misunderstood. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Matt_R Date: 18 Oct 00 - 03:33 PM Hee hee, Alex! Me and Doug have the same last name too..but we're not related! |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Amergin Date: 18 Oct 00 - 03:56 PM Oh yeah, how could I not have followed a lead to get the lyrics to that song and read a whole faq sheet about some mediocre band....and no, Mbo, they have not cast off their drunk druggie lad image with their new album, playing "futuristic music" (whatever the hell that means), now they're just a bunch of drunk junkies playing "futuristic music". Amerginwhoisslightlycrankythismorningorafternoon |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: DougR Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:03 PM If you receive any checks made out to DougR, Matt, you've got my address! DougR |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Matt_R Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:07 PM Amergin, you and your musical bigotry are one of the things I'd love to see an end to. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Little Neophyte Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:17 PM I like the name Matt. The meaning of Matthew: These individuals have come into life to learn how to be a true gift to all those they touch. This does not imply that they must martyr themselves, but rather that there is an energy of abundance that can be shared with others. For some this may be a physical or material abundance, for others it may be a specific quality such as humor that can be shared, a gift to ease the life of others. These qualities must be searched out; they lie within all of those with this name. Learning to activate these qualities and express them as a gift will be the task, keeping in mind that gifts are gifts only when given in love. The Sacred Power In Your Name, Ted Andrews |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: SINSULL Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:20 PM And we wonder why the Israelis and Palestinians can't learn to get along. So good to hear you two bickering again. I have decided to do an "All Kate Smith Folk Music Night" on Hearme. She actually made such a record. Care to join? "When the MOOOOONNN comes over the MOOOOWWWNTAIN...." Then you'll really have something to complain about. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Clinton Hammond2 Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:27 PM Differing tastes isn't musical bigotry... got off your high horse... so what... some people don't like music you like... why is tha such a big deal... I liked it better when he was gone... |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Matt_R Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:30 PM Sinsull, I LOVE Kate Smith! She was a North Carolina girl, you know! And she was the driving force behind our beloved Philadelphia Flyers won the Stanley Cup back to back seasons in the 70's. Go Katie! |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: hesperis Date: 18 Oct 00 - 06:06 PM Children..........! |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 18 Oct 00 - 06:07 PM Kendall, not much excuse for thinking the lyrics were mbo's, when Fibula had them sussed as far back as the second post of the first thread. Sourdough, there are Vincents on the road that have been going for 300,000, 400,000 and even 500,000 miles. Don't stand your BM beside one or you're going to be disappointed. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Zebedee Date: 18 Oct 00 - 06:14 PM i've not read eveything, but i've read enough to know that mbo / matt should be welcomed here. Some of you talk about maturity, but in my view, the most immature thing is to stop accepting someone because 'he said something nasty about me' Maybe you need to grow up before you start making judgements? Zeb Welcome back, Matt |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Sorcha Date: 18 Oct 00 - 07:24 PM Even if they were "just" lyrics, I was still very concerned, Matt. If you would have just posted the explanation WITH the lyrics, you could have saved a lot of people a lot of angst.I don't like having people kill themselves, even if they are NOT personal friends! Auntie Sorcha |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Brakn Date: 18 Oct 00 - 07:55 PM What a waste of time reading these two threads. Wallpaper. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Biskit Date: 18 Oct 00 - 07:59 PM Welcome Back Matt!-Biskit-,(who called you that half the time anyway.) |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: harpgirl Date: 18 Oct 00 - 08:09 PM When you get to be my age, you dont need an excuse. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Sorcha Date: 18 Oct 00 - 08:16 PM And when you get to be my age, excuses are all there is....... |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: harpgirl Date: 18 Oct 00 - 08:17 PM that was me again, not harpgirl...kendall |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Amos Date: 18 Oct 00 - 08:47 PM Kendall, why are you hiding under that Cookie? Practising to be a Cookie Monster at your age? I hope this isn't a second childhood shtick, man... you would do great as an entertainer on Sesame Street, but not if you can't stand up to Big Bird. 'As far as that goes you've shown you can give the Big Bird as well as you can take it, too! :>))Fond regards, A |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: catspaw49 Date: 18 Oct 00 - 09:15 PM Senility is a terrible thing Amos. Let's not humor the old boy, better to shoot straight. Let me show you: Kendall, you are an incredible dumbass. Its much better that way don't you agree? Spaw |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: SINSULL Date: 18 Oct 00 - 10:18 PM Kate Smith played for the Flyers? And why am I not surprised that Matt loves her music? I really did miss you. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Escamillo Date: 18 Oct 00 - 11:16 PM If the "Goodbye" post from Matt was insulting, I find his explanation more insulting. I don't have an obligation to know that was a lyrics from Oasis. I am not supposed to navigate the Web to find FAQ pages to investigate what he was telling us. I'm not a paranoid. I try to be gentle and grateful to all. His message was SIMPLY and CLEARLY insulting, and I expected a simple and sincere apology and was treated as an idiot. However I agree that both threads are a waste of time. (Oops.. this is the first time I get angry here - my apologies to everyone else)
|
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: catspaw49 Date: 18 Oct 00 - 11:21 PM That's OK Andres.......You're way low on the "Anger Meter" and you're entitled. Get good and pissed and enjoy it!!! You're still one of my favorite people! Spaw |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Hotspur Date: 18 Oct 00 - 11:23 PM I don't know about the rest of this business, but "BELOVED Philly Flyers"??? Isn't that a contradiction in terms? Hotspur the Penguin (and, sigh, Canadien) fan |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Escamillo Date: 18 Oct 00 - 11:33 PM LOL-thanks Spaw ! aaaahhh... |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Sorcha Date: 18 Oct 00 - 11:41 PM Andres, you and the spaw are both right on, there! Sometimes takes a while to work up a good piss (off), huh? Been there, done that. Work it up, get it out, and feel lots better after. LOL! You one of my favorite people here, too! (and it was a waste of time and emotional energy, IMHO--which also pisses me off. I don't have a lot of emotional energy to waste these days....) |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: GUEST,Joerg Date: 18 Oct 00 - 11:45 PM Matt - May I add some comments. People who know me are often kind of annoyed by me saying 'err' instead of 'yes' or 'no'. I'm not that sure any more... But there are also things I think I can rely on, e.g. the following: Re. 1) Don't you know yet that you needn't insult somebody to hurt him? 'Si tacuisses philosophus mansisses'. That's only a quote, not my words, so don't feel offended. Singing a song is something different - it would be a catastrophy if I could only sing songs that tell my very opinion. Don't you know yet that people out there might be different from your little sister? They might even know things your little sister does not and in reverse not know things your little sister knows. (One has to ask what is more important to know.) If you want to tell things to other people you have to try to do it some way THEY ALSO can understand, rather than some way YOU can understand, regardless how difficult the latter may seem to you. So there's a need tell it more simple, not more complicated. (The most complicated way you can tell something might be simpler than what you mean to tell itself - THAT'S a problem.) Re. 2) If there's a need to do a 'simple' internet search in order to understand what you want to tell, don't ever complain about people not understanding you. Re. 3) Refer to 1). If you quote something (without further comments) don't be surprised if people think about what you want to tell by this. You can't quote something without telling something. Be sure it is your own opinion, otherwise you must be aware of being misunderstood. Re. 4) Refer to 2). There are many, many things people think of rather that thinking of doing a quick search on the Oasis FAQ. Sometimes they even think of things different from the whole internet. Imagine! Re. 5) and 6) If you intend to leave mudcat for a bit why don't you simply do it? Nobody would have been hurt by this, and nobody will ever be. It always makes me sad when I see people 'burning bridges' without any need, and that's what you pretended to do - and finally did. Why should I set my house on fire when I go out for a beer? Just for the effect? Is it that important for the fire police to know that I'm not at home for some time, and will they thank me for telling them, especially if I do it that way? You know that is also the way, so-called 'love' is handled. My friend wants to go somewhere. Well, what's the problem? He's free, I would never dare to call him a friend otherwise. But obviously there is a need to first finish everything by insulting me as deeply as ever possible, according to "never step over an enemy if you aren't sure that he's completely dead". So I'm asking myself what kind of friend that was. Shouldn't I? Fun? - Yes, Matt - for ME. I was enchanted by how they were shocked and finally even strangled each other for motorbikes. Things like these tell me that THERE IS love and people just don't dare to tell. I know that, yet I like being reminded of it as often as ever possible. It gives me courage. And I also think it should encourage you by telling you that at least what you did up to then was good, maybe even precious. Of course I don't know if you are able to see it that way. So, if you need encouragement why do you give some to me instead of noticing and preserving what you have? I love it but I don't need more of it that urgently. I also need as many friends as possible, of course, but I do have some, not many but sufficient, and I know that I can only keep them by not playing tricks on them, especially no tricks concerning our friendship. It's a matter of confidence. And that's something I will never joke about. What do you think: Are you going to have more friends after that maneuvre or less? BTW - to avoid paranoid misunderstandings: Pariah GUEST,Joerg does not have a hidden cookie, I never posted with some different name and as far as I know nobody else ever posted as GUEST,Joerg. Love to you all (not the so-called kind, the real stuff) Joerg |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Matt_R Date: 19 Oct 00 - 12:04 AM Well I don't know what to say. I don't want to leave, and I can't change the fact that I am an asshole. Maybe I SHOULD die! Wouldn't you all just love that? But I am scum and don't have the guts to do it. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: ddw Date: 19 Oct 00 - 12:10 AM I've got nothing against Matt R being "back" — just hope he's left Mbo somewhere else. Never enjoyed seeing a FOLK MUSIC & BLUES forum cluttered with endless postings about rock music and finding endless repetitions of juvenile buzzword phrases like "_______ RULES!" ELO sucks, Oasis sucks, heavy metal sucks! OK? Of course, that's just my opinion. Rant over. cheers david |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Amergin Date: 19 Oct 00 - 12:40 PM Rofl, DDW... |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Branwen23 Date: 19 Oct 00 - 01:16 PM Matt. Amergin. Clinton. I don't know about everyone else, but IMHO, this whole cycle of "Bash Oasis, Defend Oasis, Bash Oasis, Bash each other, etc." is getting a little old. It seems rather clear to me that it has evolved into alternately attempting to piss each other off rather than really discuss opinions about music. And if it is about music, then everyone's opinion seems clearly established and unlikely to change. So, why perpetuate it? The whole thing seems to have become pretty juvenile. But, again, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. Glad to see you're still around, Matt. And don't take this the wrong way, but - Grow up a little. I can't speak lfor everyone, but I think that most of us really like you and like having you around. I may be misinterpreting this little drama we've had going here, but it wasn't necessary, and was more juvenile than I would have expected you to be. -branwen-(who knows that she's likely to be flamed by someone |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Little Hawk Date: 19 Oct 00 - 01:57 PM Matt - Whaddya talkin' about? A person can change ANYTHING if they really want to. By the way, I heard your MP3.com or whatever you call it, the song where you sing with a Scottish accent, and you sound really good. Seriously. You've got a great voice for folk music. I hope to play a few with you one of these days. In the meantime...I just can't wait for Goodbye part III to come along, can you? Keep lookin' on the bright side. You may not be perfect, but we like you anyway. I mean, us folks in Orillia do. Hell, I even like Oasis. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: Troll Date: 19 Oct 00 - 02:14 PM Glad you're back Kid. Though I guess I shouldn't call you that any more. Like whatever music you want to but don't try to cram it down our throats. I happen to like (shudder! GASP!) swing and I think that Cole Porter was one of THE greatest songwriters ever but thats just my opinion and if YOU don't like his songs, well, thats your affair. Don't be too quick to take offense;especially at us old guys. We tend to be set in our ways. Humor us.It behooves the young to put up with the ramblings and ravings of us old farts (Sorcha, you have at LEAST 10 years to go)[fartette?] Hmmmm. And lastly, lay off the "I'm such an asshole" and "I'm scum" bullshit. You aren't nearly old enough to claim those titles. troll....who IS old and knows these things. |
|
Subject: RE: Goodbye part II From: IvanB Date: 19 Oct 00 - 03:10 PM Matt_R, I guess Branwen said what I'd say in a far more succinct manner. As far as the melodrama of "I'm just a scumbag...maybe I should die," that was a bit of the old Mbo coming through and I'd just as soon have not been subjected to it. Don't expect you to be a new person overnight, but think before you post. As far as cluttering of the forum, the rant "ELO sucks, Oasis sucks, heavy metal sucks," or similar that seem to be used around here are as much clutter as just about anything that Mbo ever posted. And we've got a lot more 'clutter' to worry about around here than commentary about performance groups - such discussion at least has some basis in music, unlike a large percentage of the threads lately, which seem to be pure tripe. |
| Share Thread: |