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BS: Please help with good thoughts

katlaughing 06 Jul 01 - 11:48 AM
Roger in Sheffield 06 Jul 01 - 11:58 AM
Burke 06 Jul 01 - 12:00 PM
Hollowfox 06 Jul 01 - 12:05 PM
IvanB 06 Jul 01 - 12:06 PM
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MMario 06 Jul 01 - 12:07 PM
Night Owl 06 Jul 01 - 12:16 PM
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Kim C 06 Jul 01 - 12:38 PM
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Ebbie 06 Jul 01 - 01:05 PM
JenEllen 06 Jul 01 - 01:16 PM
Amergin 06 Jul 01 - 01:17 PM
Rick Fielding 06 Jul 01 - 01:19 PM
Lonesome EJ 06 Jul 01 - 01:34 PM
SharonA 06 Jul 01 - 01:52 PM
gnu 06 Jul 01 - 02:00 PM
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Subject: Please help with good thoughts
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 11:48 AM

Dear Mudcatters,

It seems a bad situation, living with an angry adult child, is coming to a head. Would you please keep Rog and me and our cats and dog in your good thoughts and prayers, etc.?

I need some of that Mudcat healing stuff and would really appreciate it.

Thanks and love you,

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 11:58 AM

Not sure what you are saying.........
but I will be thinking of you anyway
Take care of yourself

Roger


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Burke
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 12:00 PM

Good thoughts & prayers are yours.


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Hollowfox
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 12:05 PM

From here, too. May it all turn out well and fairly for all involved, both human and otherwise.


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: IvanB
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 12:06 PM

Been there, done that, kat. Believe me, the best of thoughts are wafting their way from here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: jeffp
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 12:06 PM

Good thoughts winging their way from the east coast. I sure know about angry children. Best of luck to all of you.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: MMario
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 12:07 PM

You got'em!


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Night Owl
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 12:16 PM

(((((((((((VERY BIG HUG))))))))))))!!!!!!! kat..you KNOW there's LOTS of love under the anger there...it's a big picture....hoping here you don't get yourself lost in one part of it. You've got the internal strength and love to rise above it and BREATHE....sending you positive thoughts, prayers, love, Mudcat circles, strength, oxygen and anything else I can.


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 12:19 PM

No sense in me rambling on. You already know and of course you are always in our thoughts. luvyadearestkat

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Ralphie
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 12:22 PM

How do you refuse a request like that....Am playing a tune for you now.
Det Stod en Jungfrau....(to be precise)
Hugs Ralphie xx


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Kim C
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 12:38 PM

Good thoughts to you and all!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: chip a
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 12:58 PM

Happy people, cats and dogs and an ease of spirit for you from N.Ga.

Chip & Tish A.


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 01:02 PM

Good point above - it's the underlying love that makes the anger so strong. If AAC [angry adult child] is that angry, you've got a good foundation... all you need to do is find it! (yeah, right, "all" - but you know what I mean). Best of everything, pm if you need more...


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 01:05 PM

(((((HUG))))))

"May you feel the strength inside
Of the mountain that you are...
And may you always see fog's promise
Of a bright new day..." Kathy Martin Fanning

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: JenEllen
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 01:16 PM

You know.....

~j


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Amergin
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 01:17 PM

been the angry adult child....before i started in on antidepressants (the first time) and got several other things cleared up....


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 01:19 PM

Hang tough Kat!

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 01:34 PM

Kat...just a suggestion : Have you tried slapping the crap out of him? :>}

Seriously, hang in there and that person will someday appreciate your effort. Sending good thoughts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: SharonA
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 01:52 PM

"Adult child" should be an oxymoron but, sadly, isn't. Younger, more raging hormones are a PITA! Just make sure the AAC remains the lowest common denominator (don't sink into his/her quagmire). All kinds of good thoughts, and protective barriers against hurt and harm, coming your way from SharonA.


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: gnu
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 02:00 PM

Very best of thoughts and I know things will work out for you. Your just toooo nice a person for anything else.

Sincerely,

gnu


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: GUEST,Melani
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 02:09 PM

Don't worry. Bad things usually improve eventually.


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 02:33 PM

Kat,

Have been. You made a remark in a thread that caught me.

A. Been there, done that. Willing to pray, share, talk, anything, including offer temp housing if needed w/o evangelization.

B. Do you want this out on the prayer chain, and if so may I send you the FAQ so you know more about that?

C. Your own best sense about every aspect of this is paramount. Don't let anyone turn it around, and if you do get turned around, why then turn right back again. You know where north is, I know it. Point there.

D. Anything. Just say what.

E. It's not your fault. Period.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 02:35 PM

Curl up with the cats. Purring is good medicine for cats and for humans.


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 03:10 PM

Thank you, everyone. Susan, thanks, but please just keep this one the Mudcat.

I'll post more when I am able; trying to rest and regroup at the moment.

I love you all,

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: SDShad
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 03:15 PM

You got it, sister. Good thoughts, good prayers, good vibes. I'll be thinking of you.

Chris


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: sian, west wales
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 03:19 PM

"In protection, strength
In strength, understanding."

Holding close with both hands.

sian


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: UB Ed
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 03:31 PM

Listen to Susan!


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: KT
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 04:03 PM

Hey, kat, I'm with ya. Sending lots of good thoughts your way. Remember...."You WILL rise up through the dark...." Lots of love to you -- KT


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: kendall
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 04:14 PM

You have my sympathy my dear, my grand daughter is going through that stage too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Micca
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 04:26 PM

Still in My thoughts, Kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Mudlark
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 04:34 PM

Dear kat

Here is a litany that I go thru whenever pressed.....sending it along with lots of good thots and wishes...

Commit yourself. Tell the truth. Trust yourself. Pain ends...and so does everything else. have patience. Be willing to be vulnerable. Don't let fear stop you. Be willing to fail. When you notice you're clinging to anything and it's causing trouble--DROP IT. No act of love is ever wasted.

Rest easy...

Nancy


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Bardford
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 06:18 PM

Karma, baby! You give a lot to this community, K/KL, I'll send some back your way. Good health to you and yours.
Bardford


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Amergin
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 06:21 PM

Hey, katdarling! just send her out here....I'll spank the snot out of her!

am keeping you in my thoughts, my dear...


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: radriano
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 06:47 PM

Kat-

Hope it all works out. Teenagers are really hard on parents - my own kid is sixteen and boy is she a handful.


Richard


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 06:57 PM

kat - you know how I feel about this and you and Roger. Hang in there and trust your instincts. Try to take care of yourself the way you take care of us.
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 07:00 PM

I will notify the Mudcat members of the chain to come see your URL here, Kat.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 07:26 PM

Hoping for the highest good of all concerned.

Carol


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Dorrie
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 07:35 PM

Sorry but i know parents always try the lock you in the house thing but dont bother cos most people i know just climb out a window or something. Mum has never done it to me but she did try with aaron and holly(big brother,sister) and they've both grown out of it.Even though it pains me to say it now my brother has actually become nice since he moved away for a bit.

But remember everyone goes there at some point or other but all teenagers/young adults come through it and all absolutely adore and respect there family even if they sometimes dont show it.

sorry if that sounds dead weird coming form a 17 year old but my family(some of whom are not at all related in anyway) is very large and extremly cool but sometimes i do wish they'd go away.

love dorrie xx

Sorry if that made know sense at all but i thought i should write a young perpective for u all to see if u get me?!?!?!?!


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 07:38 PM

Always here for you Kat

Love Bon


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 07:41 PM

[sigh]
I sympathize, Kat, but....
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Áine
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 07:46 PM

dearest mehitabel,

Why do I have the feelin' that this started with a certain four-legged 'problem'? Dare I evoke Mz. Nancy R.'s words, "Just Say NO," my darlin'. AACS (Angry Adult Child Syndrome) is a terrible thang - havin' been one myself, I know that the first step toward 'closure' is admitting that the Adult Child has a problem ;-) -- worked wonders when my mama would pat my on the head and tell me to play in the street 'tween the semitrucks, if that was what I really wanted to do . . . and it wasn't ever very long before I was back, 'poundin' on the door and wantin' a hug.

Just remember, she's learnin' from your example -- so stay strong, keep lovin' her and Rog, and never, ever, forget that chocolate, foot rubs, iced tea with raw honey and homegrown mint, and unending Calgon moments with a bubbling, heated mat in a tub longer than you are tall will always await you at Moon on the Hill . . .

Healing thoughts, hugs and snogs to my favourite kat, Áine


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: GUEST,Dancing Mom
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 11:13 PM

Warm Hug.S


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 12:51 AM

All the best, Kat.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Morticia
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 05:58 AM

You know you have my whole hearted love and best thoughts all the time,hon.Maybe you should think about that trip to England, you know you'd be welcomer than sunshine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 06:08 AM

Warm, loving thoughts and hugs. Hang in there; you've evoked MudLovePower, so relax and be in the moment, knowing you are supported and loved!


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Quincy
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 09:18 AM

Love, hugs, prayers, good thoughts all heading your way.

much love, Yvonne xox


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 09:57 AM

Aye, (always) Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 01:55 PM

Today is better. I think I have an inkling, now, of what Spaw must've felt when showered with such blessings and love from such incredible people as yourselves. I am overwhelmed and in awe. Thank you all so very much.

We have not resolved a lot, yet, except that the immediate crisis of added MAJOR stress has been lifted. My daughter had offered to take in a dog which would not have been compatible with our cats, our dog, our fence, and our gates, plus she is gone 10-12 hours of the day, so it would have been up to me to take care of it.

Through the fog of my tears, depression, and dismay, with your help, I summoned the courage to call the owners and talk to them about the facts of the situation. It is not about their dog, it is about mother/daughter issues which Rue is holding onto, instead of working through. They understood and declined her offer. She now hates me even more, if that is possible, but it couldn't have been any worse, so I cam not anymore upset that I was.

She came home last night, to her house which we pay 2/3rds of the expenses for, and packed up her clothes and left. I expect we will see her around after a few days.

She is upset at my cats and that is another long story which I really don't want to go into.

Anyway, we have an immediate need which we are focussing on and that is to MOVE, out of Wyoming, out of her house. We have some hopeful options, thanks to some of you and our son and a couple of other friends. I am blown away by all of the care and concern and generosity. Thanks to all of you. It will take the rest of my lifetime to even begin to repay your kindness.

I have taken steps to help myself. Didn't realise until the lowest point in my life, yesterday, that I am in a state of depression, so am now taking some meds for that, which friends and docs tell me works well.(Amergin, I appreciate your comments about being an AAC and being depressed. I suspect that Rue is and needs meds, too.) Here's hoping it will take effect, so I can marshall my thoughts, have some energy, and take charge like I used to and figure this thing out. If anyone hears of any cheap, low altitude places to live, prefereably where it does NOT get too hot, please holler!

Thanks, from Rog and me, both. I cried all day, yesterday. They were not all tears of sorrow and despair. A lot of them were in gratitude for the way you all have touched my heart and soul.

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 02:47 PM

Hey you could come and live in my house anytime
(though I would have to do some tidying first)


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Subject: RE: BS: Please help with good thoughts
From: clansfolk
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 02:48 PM

The "clans" thoughts go with you

May tomorrow be the best day you ever have -
and the worst you will ever have

Take care...


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