Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: mousethief Date: 04 Feb 10 - 09:11 PM Bicycle Race and Fat-Bottomed Girls (both by Queen) almost do that. O..O =o= |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: Jason Xion Wang Date: 14 Jun 14 - 03:22 PM Just to mention a few, How High's the Watergate (Phil Ochs) - Five Feet High and Rising And Lovin' You (Tom Paxton & Bob Gibson) - Norwegian Wood Getting Up Early (Tom Paxton & Bob Gibson) - Mr Tamburine Man I Can't Escape (John Denver) - Leaving on a Jet Plane; Blowin' in the Wind; Games People Play And... I Hear America Singing (Shel Silverstein): Drink With Thine Eyes Auld Lang Syne Itsy Bitsy Spider Mercedes Benz Take Me Out to the Ball Game Oh Say Can You See Nearer My God to Thee Sh-boom Sh-boom ...and at least 10 more. |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST,Musket Date: 15 Jun 14 - 03:23 AM A clever variation is purposely borrowing lines. Paul Simon's "Leaves that are green" had the opening line lifted by Billy Bragg in "New England" I was twenty one years when I wrote this song I'm twenty two now but I won't be for long. This however is different to songs evolving slightly differently in the oral tradition such as Matty Groves and Little Musgrave. |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: Tattie Bogle Date: 15 Jun 14 - 05:19 AM Malcolm Hughes - regular attenders at Edinburgh Folk Club - has written a great song featuring a good number of the late Michael Marra's song titles. Ian Davison - Glasgow songwriter - "There's Room Fur Us A' In the Dance" has a number of ceilidh dance tunes in between the verses (a bit like the Ballad of St Anne's Reel mentioned earlier in the thread.) |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST,Gerry Date: 15 Jun 14 - 08:40 AM Tom Paxton, Did You Hear John Hurt: Did you hear John Hurt play the Creole Belle? Spanish Fandango? That he loved so well? And did you love John Hurt? Did you shake his hand? Did you hear him play his Candy Man? |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: Steve Howlett Date: 15 Jun 14 - 08:49 AM Kipling's "The Absent-Minded Beggar": 'When you've shouted "Rule Britannia": when you've sung "God Save the Queen"'. And "The Old Miner": 'And who will sing the Miners' Hymn'. (Does anyone know the Miners' Hymn?) |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST,henryp Date: 15 Jun 14 - 11:25 AM I was twenty one years when I wrote this song I'm twenty two now but I won't be for long. This has echoes of AE Housman too; When I was one and twenty from A Shropshire Lad. |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: Jason Xion Wang Date: 15 Jun 14 - 12:03 PM Doc Watson added more to "Did You Hear John Hurt": We picked some together, John, Merle and me Like a talkin' to Casey and ol' Stagger Lee You can bet your money if you can't afford to lose Man, you should've hear him play them "Monday Morning Blues" |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: DebC Date: 15 Jun 14 - 03:21 PM "The Rose In June" sung by Loui Killen and collected by Dr. Kenneth Goldstein has a hymn embedded in it complete with a verse and chorus. Debra Cowan |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: DebC Date: 15 Jun 14 - 03:23 PM That's what I get for not reading the thread. And that should be Lou Killen. Deb |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST,henryp Date: 15 Jun 14 - 03:37 PM Mainly Norfolk; The Old Miner - Roy Palmer noted; An old miner at Haunchwood Pit, Nuneaton [Warwickshire], made up this song to a tune he had learned in his native Durham. John Moreton heard it in the early 1960s. BBC Radio 4 Soul Music; The Miners' Hymn - Gresford - was written by a former miner, Robert Saint, to commemorate the Gresford pit disaster in 1934. It has been played at mining events ever since, most notably at the famous Durham Miners' Gala. Beaton Institute Music; The Miners' Memorial Hymn was written by Horatius Bonar in memory of the miners that were killed during the The Gresford Disaster at the Gresford Colliery in Northeast Wales on September 22, 1934. Words by Horatius Bonar, Tune: "Gresford" Go, labour on while it is day; The world's dark night is hast'ning on; Speed thy work, cast sloth away; It is not thus that souls are won. |
Subject: Lyr Add: HAVING A PARTY (Sam Cooke) From: GUEST,Lew becker Date: 16 Jun 14 - 12:09 AM How about the great Sam Cooke: We're having a party Dancin' to the music Played by the DJ On the radio The Cokes are in the icebox Popcorn's on the table Me and my baby We're out here on the floor So, mister, Mr. DJ Keep those records playin' 'Coz I'm havin' such a good time Dancin' with my baby Everybody's swingin' Sally's doing that twist now If you take requests I've Got a few for you
Play that song called "Soul Twist" |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: PHJim Date: 16 Jun 14 - 12:25 AM The McGarrigle Sisters sang Work Song that contained the verse: When I was a little thing Papa tried to make me sing Home Sweet Home and Aura Lee These were songs that my daddy taught me Camptown Races and Susannah Don't You Cry Gentle Annie still brings a tear to my eye Label it garbage, label it art You couldn't call it soul, you had to call it heart |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: Jim Carroll Date: 16 Jun 14 - 08:45 AM A verse from the 1920s made up entirely of titles of or references to other songs: I want some Money To give it to the Sheikh of Araby Oh, aint it funny Old friend, why don't you answer me, Tippy canoe, jealous of you, Hiawatha's melody of love, carbolic. Here comes old beaver, Floating down the stream to you. Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST Date: 16 Jun 14 - 11:09 AM On one of their albums for children Hilary James and Simon Mayor do their take on "Wait for the Wagon". An instrumental break in the piece consists of Simon doing one phrase each of "The Sailor's Hornpipe", "The Trumpet Hornpipe" and "Turkey in the Straw", finishing with a tag which I think is his own... |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: PHJim Date: 16 Jun 14 - 11:15 AM One of my favorite Cris Cuddy songs is called Keep The Change, about an all night joint that used to be in Peterborough, Ontario's East City. Here is the bridge and last verse: Waitress bring me another cup of coffee and one more for my friend We gotta hear some old time music, Like The Lovesick Blues all over again And we'll keep you good company until these blues are gone So honey why don't you keep the change And play the jukebox all night long Yeah play the jukebox all night long I'd like to hear Hank Snow sing I'm Movin' On I wish that that was me Six Days on the Road to Bluebird Island My Calypso Sweetheart to see But here I'm stuck in the same old town Gotta finish up this song So honey why don't you keep the change And play the jukebox all night long |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: PHJim Date: 16 Jun 14 - 11:23 AM Here's another of Cris's songs containing a couple of other songs: Cris Cuddy's Boy From Beaumont |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST,mayomick Date: 16 Jun 14 - 12:44 PM Monto- Wearing of the Green Down by the Liffey side - Goodbye and do not Cry, Down by Texas Way, Soldier's Song Rodney's Glory does have lyrics. They were composed by Eoghan Ruadh O'Suiillebhan (Owen Roe o Sullivan) - the last of the great Irish bards - within hours of the famous sea battle in which he had participated: "Give ear ye British hearts of gold /That e'er disdain to be controlled/Good news to you I will unfold /'Tis of brave Rodney's glory......" Daniel Corkery gives all eight verses in "Hidden Ireland" and tells the strange story of how the song came to be written . |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler Date: 16 Jun 14 - 02:46 PM Roger Watson's "Salvation Band" mentions "Onward Christian Soldiers". Then there is the song about the broadside ballad seller that gives the stories of several ballads, such as "the monstrous fish" without actually giving their names. |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 16 Jun 14 - 03:20 PM "Old Spinning Wheel (in the Parlor)" mentions "Old Black Joe." Sometimes it seems like I can hear her in the twilight At the organ, softly singing, "Old Black Joe." There's an old spinning wheel in the parlor Spinning dreams of a long, long, ago. |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST,Mark Bluemel Date: 17 Jun 14 - 04:45 AM We never quite find out what song A11 is... |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: Tradsinger Date: 17 Jun 14 - 06:13 AM There is an old music hall song called "The Egg" which is completely composed from old songs and tunes. It starts Maxwellon Braes are bonny where stands the Grand Hotel And it's there I had an egg for my breakfast and I knew as I opened the shell, that It was an old of the Old Brigade etc Can anyone finish it off? Tradsinger |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST,Barnacle (at work) Date: 17 Jun 14 - 08:11 AM Try Bill Caddicks "Last damn sock in the word" - Brilliant - and if you're a Caddick fan you will notice multiple references to his songs. |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST,Barnacle (at work) Date: 17 Jun 14 - 08:16 AM How did it come up "sock" ???? Last damn song in the world! |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: PHJim Date: 17 Jun 14 - 10:38 AM I'd play Sally Goodin all day if I could But the Lord and my wife wouldn't take it very good So I fiddle when I can, work when I should Thank God I'm a country boy |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: PHJim Date: 17 Jun 14 - 10:41 AM From Bill Monroe's Uncle Pen (My apologies if it's already been posted) Well, he played an old tune they called the "Soldier's Joy", And then he did the one they called the "Boston Boy". Greatest of all was the "Jennie Lynn", To me, that's where the fiddlin' begins. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE DROVER'S DREAM From: eftifino Date: 17 Jun 14 - 11:41 AM The Drover's Dream is one from Down Under with imbeede songs: Drover's Dream One night when travelling sheep, my companions lay asleep There was not a star to illuminate the sky I was dreaming, I suppose, for my eyes were nearly closed When a very strange procession passed me by First there came a kangaroo, with his swag of blankets blue A dingo ran beside him for a mate They were travelling mighty fast, and they shouted as they passed "We'll have to jog along, it's getting late" The pelican and the crane, they came in from off the plain To amuse the company with a Highland Fling The dear old bandicoot played a tune upon his flute And the native bears sat round them in a ring The drongo and the crow sang us songs of long ago While the frill-necked lizard listened with a smile And the emu standing near with his claw up to his ear Said, "Funniest thing I've heard for quite a while" The frogs from out the swamp, where the atmosphere is damp Came bounding in and sat upon the stones They each unrolled their swags and produced from out their bags The violin, the banjo and the bones The goanna and the snake, and the adder wide awake With the alligator danced "The Soldier's Joy" In the spreading silky oak the jackass cracked a joke And the magpie sang "The Wild Colonial Boy" Some brolgas darted out from the tea-tree all about And performed a set of Lancers very well Then the parrot green and blue gave the orchestra its cue To strike up "The Old Log Cabin in the Dell." I was dreaming, I suppose, of these entertaining shows But it never crossed my mind I was asleep Till the Boss beneath the cart woke me up with such a start Yelling, "Dreamy, where the hell are all the sheep?" |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: Mo the caller Date: 17 Jun 14 - 03:32 PM That Egg siong has a thread all of it's own, I think. |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: Tootler Date: 17 Jun 14 - 06:57 PM When the Boat Comes In quotes The Keel Row |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: Tattie Bogle Date: 18 Jun 14 - 05:12 AM Onward Christian Soldiers is also mentioned in Adam McNaughtan's "Jeely Piece Song". |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST,henryp Date: 18 Jun 14 - 09:31 AM O'Donoghue's by Andy Irvine records his life in Dublin from 1962 to 1968. There's a song in almost every verse. Well, Paddy and Maureen, very, very sound though she liked to camp on the moral high ground You had long hair, you were outward bound, Go down you blood red roses Ronnie Drew in his fine suit of blue and a voice like gravel that'd cut you in two We thought he was Dublin through and through, but he blew in from Dun Laoghaire |
Subject: ADD Chorus: Moonlight Bay (Madden & Wenrich) From: Joe Offer Date: 13 May 15 - 01:15 AM Let us not forget Doris Day. It's debatable whether she was born in 1922 or 1924, but there's no doubt that she's still living. Her film Moonlight Bay came out in 1951. There was a 1953 sequel, By the Light of the Silvery Moon. Moonlight Bay (Madden & Wenrich) We were sailing along on Moonlight Bay We could hear the voices ringing, they seemed to say: "You have stolen her heart, now don't go 'way" As we sang "Love's Old Sweet Song" on Moonlight Bay D DG D - / A7 - D - ——w: Edward Madden, m: Percy Wenrich (1912) |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST,HiLo Date: 13 May 15 - 03:17 AM In her song "You Want Alchemy",Kate Bush mentions the song "Cloudbusting" . |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST Date: 13 May 15 - 08:55 AM Ledbelly: It was midnight out on the sea The band was playing "Nearer My God to Thee" Cryin' "fare thee, Titannic, fare thee well" While reading through this thread, I realized that I really like it when a song mentions another song, especially if it's a song I know. And if it's a song I don't know, the reference makes me want to hear it. This Ledbelly song made me seek out the hymn, which I hadn't previously heard of, just as Eric Bogle's great ballad made me want to learn Waltzing Matilda (which until then I had assumed was a song about a kangaroo in a circus). And though I was disappointed in both cases and decided not to add them to my songbooks, I still have warm feelings toward both just because they're referred to in songs that I love. I don't know why that is. In fact, it seems peculiar now that I think about it. But it might be something for songwriters to consider. |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: MGM·Lion Date: 13 May 15 - 12:59 PM The keelman and the pitman trim They drink bumbo made from gin Then to dance they do begin To the tune of Elsie Marley Byker Hill and Walker Shore... ≈M≈ |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: MGM·Lion Date: 13 May 15 - 01:09 PM His head was covered all over with blood His eyes you could scarcely see The very last words poor Georgie said Were "Nearer My God To Thee". Engine 143, or The FFV |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: Jim Carroll Date: 13 May 15 - 01:30 PM A song my mother sang made up of song titles from the 20s and 30s 'I Want Some Money' to give it to the 'Sheikh of Araby' Oh, ain't it funny the difference that money makes to me, 'Tippi Canoe', 'Jealous of You' 'Hiawatha's Melody of Love', Carbolic' 'Here Comes old Beaver', 'Floating Down the Stream to You'. Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: Steve Gardham Date: 13 May 15 - 03:25 PM Medleys or Songs of Songs go back to the 17thc at least. They were very popular on broadsides in the early 19th century and in the later Music Hall. Sometimes they consist of long lists of titles, cleverly rhymed, and sometimes they are parts of songs strung together. 'The Death of Harry Clifton' laments his passing in 1872 and includes most of his better-known song titles. |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST Date: 13 May 15 - 03:53 PM The chorus of Iris Dement's song "Mama's Opry" is a string of names or first lines of hymns: And we sang Sweet Rose of Sharon, Abide With Me 'Til I ride The Gospel Ship to Heaven's Jubilee And In That Great Triumphant Morning my soul will be free And My Burdens Will Be Lifted when my Saviour's face I see So I Don't Want to Get Adjusted to This World below But I know He'll Pilot Me 'til it comes time to go Oh, nothing on this earth is half as dear to me As the sound of my Mama's Opry |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: GUEST Date: 13 May 15 - 04:23 PM I think the reason I like songs that mention other songs is because songs are something I'm especially interested in. I imagine it's the same for a lepidopterist hearing someone singing about "the bright elusive butterfly of love" or an astronaut listening to "Rocket Man" or "Major Tom." |
Subject: RE: Songs within songs From: MGM·Lion Date: 13 May 15 - 05:01 PM He play'd "The Welcome Ower the Main" And "Ye's Be Fou and I'se be Fain" And "Auld Stuart's Back Again" Wi' muckle mirth and glee He'd play'd "The Kirk", he play'd "The Queer" "The Mullen Dhu" and "Chevalier" And "Lang Awa' But Welcome Here" Sae sweet, sae bonnielie .....The Piper of Dundee |
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