Walkaboutsverse

Subject: WALKABOUTSVERSE
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 11:11 AM

Have you checked my free website - walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: WALKABOUTSVERSE
From: Leadfingers
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 02:04 PM

Not Yet

Subject: RE: WALKABOUTSVERSE
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 02:12 PM

Tried to get there, but the page took so long to load, I gave up. To save dialup people from a freeze-up, I'm not mkaing the uRL into a clicky-link.

~S~

Subject: RE: WALKABOUTSVERSE
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 02:37 PM

David, were I you, I'd look for a different host, such as www.tripod.com.

Yours finally loaded for me and I am on broadband, but none of the links were lined up right and they did not work.

Good luck,

kat

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 06:23 PM

It's always a sever mistake to try to put it all on one page.

The human mind can only hold and access small chunks of info at one time.

A good reference book always has an index, so please consider breaking the content up, and moving most of it off the front page.

If you want to look at how a very large site can be organised to be accessible thru indexes, feel free to look at mine - the url is on my Mudcat profile page. You may not like the content, but it is the way it is set up that may help you to think about organising your site.

Subject: WHY WALKABOUTSVERSE IS SLOW
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 05:50 AM

walkaboutsverse.741.com is about 1MB of poems and songs, and is relatively slow to download. But, as it's all on one fully-linked page, it should be quick and easy to navigate once there - why not make a brew while you're waiting!

I actually produced a paperback first using desktop publishing software, then copy/pasted to Word. It wouldn't take on the more efficient specialised web-software, so I removed all the html I could to get it just below the 1MB limit required by 741.

Thanks to those who responded to my first message, and I have taken your tips onboard.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,mack/misophist
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 07:33 AM

With DSL it loaded quickly enough but galeon, a fairly compliant browser, didn't display the top of the page very well. I presume the lower parts were meant to be wavy.

Subject: RE: WHY WALKABOUTSVERSE IS SLOW
From: GUEST,mack/misophist
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 07:37 AM

Word might not have been the best thing to use. It uses extensive propriatary formatting which sometimes doesn't transfer well. For the best inter-operability you might consider Notepad or try saving Word documents as rtf.

Subject: RE: WHY WALKABOUTSVERSE IS SLOW
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 08:06 AM

Yes, transferring WOrd to HTML often produces 'broken' HTML, as well as excessive amounts of 'garbage' not needed to display the page.

It's still best to break the page up into subpages.

And you should have put this in your previous thread too, please.

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Threads combined

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:01 AM

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: MMario
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:04 AM

If the page is a meg; I could probably GROW the barley for a brew while wating for it to download.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:11 AM

On the library computers I've tried my site on, it takes about 15 - 100 seconds, but it seems it can be longer elsewhere...?

If I did make a front page well below 1MB, via this free provider, there would then be pop-ups, anyway. I.E., I think it's the 970KBs that blocks them out.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 09:10 AM

One could walk one's "woofer" while waiting on
Walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 06:22 PM

Most people would prefer, well tolerate anyway, popups (against which many people have anti-popup software running) than a page that takes forever to load, and needs much zipping up and down to read. of course, if you want them to just save it to their drive and never come back, then it is probably OK.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Mar 06 - 07:02 AM

Thanks Foolestroupe:

I have designed an alternate front page, with the "shoe", asking people to click and wait for almost 1MB of verse. But it will produce pop-ups and, overall, probably take longer for people to actually start reading it.

As I said, once there I think it's quick and easy to navigate what must be about 5 hours worth of reading.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 25 Mar 06 - 07:15 AM

"what must be about 5 hours worth of reading."

In that case for you then, consider that most people would prefer NOT to have to hang on line for that 5 hours, but read it offline (off their own hard drive) at their own leisure. Also people like me on dialup still pay per time connected, as well as per amount of data delivered.

And if you are going to get them to download it, it would be better appreciated if you were to compress it with a 'zip utility', which would make it a much smaller file and thus faster to download - this would then allow you have have even more available.

It would also then still be better to split it up into several smaller files, as each would be quicker to download for dialup users. Dialup users could also then arrange to collect it via a 'background downloader' whilst doing other things.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 30 Mar 06 - 09:33 AM

Thanks again Foolestroupe:

I'll look into this "zip utility".

The other way is for people to use the library for either the website or paperback/c.d. - I've gifted them to quite a few.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:48 AM

walkaboutsverse.741.com has been updated.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 09:24 AM

The time certanly varies - it just took about 5 seconds at my local library.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 18 May 06 - 10:02 AM

E.g: WALKABOUT WITH MY PEN
Once drove an old sedan, up north,
   From a place in Sydney to Cairns;
Then to Kuranda I went forth,...

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 23 May 06 - 10:52 AM

By train, to look without set plans...

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 07:01 AM

I browsed through the trendy market...

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 06:52 AM

With fresh fruits of tropical kind...

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 07:16 AM

Walked to the creek through lush thicket...

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 02:00 PM

Nature's hand giving peace of mind...

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 10:54 AM

I dined in a scenic cafe...

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: Amos
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 11:59 AM

Worthy of McGonegal, I declare;
How strange to find his talent rare
And long thought happily, finally, dead,
Raising again its cheerful head
To haunt a later, different time
With equal awkwardness of rhyme
And stilted pace; enough, enough!
The world's well-gifted with such stuff.
But let it be, to each man's choosing
To read what he finds most amusing.
And let us also add, I wot,
To not read what amuseth not.

Claracile Fortinez.
Alabaster Poems
Whiteshell-On-Thunk, 1938

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 11:03 AM

Thanks, Amos:
Now, vamos!
Where were we..?
Let me see...

Then, outside, as I wrote for yen...

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 06:25 AM

Some passing Kooris called-out: "Hey,..

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 19 Jun 06 - 12:59 PM

You go walkabout with your pen."..

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Jun 06 - 10:46 AM

Request of question, I don't know - ...

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jun 06 - 11:18 AM

Seems to me that this kind of ego-posting isn't really appropriate for this forum.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jun 06 - 10:04 AM

Plus, from your postings on other forums, I think your political leanings are not welcome here or anywhere on the folk scene.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 05:14 AM

It's letting people know of this free site, which contains info. on folk music, as well as lays/poems-sung (e.g., Walkabout with my Pen). Furthermore, "Guest", there are all sorts of "political leanings" on discussion forums - mine derive from 4 technical certificates, a degree in humanities, and shoe-string travel through about 40 countries.

Assured voices, elderly men...

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 05:16 PM

He can't sing either

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 29 Jun 06 - 06:11 AM

(Where did you hear me, Guest? Or should I call you - "Groupie"?)

That's now several years ago...

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Jul 06 - 06:57 AM

And I've seen the world - with my pen.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 04 Jul 06 - 06:09 AM

In response to some of the above tips, thanks again, I found a way of transferring, without retyping, my collection from Word to FrontPage - i.e., Save As Word Document gets rid of the html and enables copy/paste to FrontPage. So, in a few more days, after relinking, it should be about a 650kb site instead of 970kb.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,another guest
Date: 04 Jul 06 - 06:13 AM

"...the wandering pen writes freely"

I can't remember who said that, but in some cases too freely.

I was told by a friend to check out your postings on the BBC forums that don't appear on google. What a farce! Don't drag folk, rhyme or our forum into the depths of - dare I say it – borderline xenophobia.

Whoever said your travellers tales are egotistical is right. You feature as the subject of most of your verse. The days of the 18th century travel writer have past my friend, we can experience these things for ourselves now. No longer is the 'literary guide' a prerequisite for prose.

I don't know who your web-hosting friends are, but I think you've given them enough free plugs.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Jul 06 - 10:22 AM

Regarding "You feature as the subject of most of your verse" I disagree - most are about other people and places, and the introductory poem 0 - 19 was to let people know where I'm coming from, given that some of my conclusions are critical of the status quo. Furthermore, some of the verses also appear on a folk c.d. - Chants from Walkabouts, and there's a related site on other folk-matters. Finally, to get free web-space, as far as I know, we have to put up with ad's, whether we question capitalism or not.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Another guest again
Date: 04 Jul 06 - 01:22 PM

You don't seem to understand. Your writing technique almost always is in 'the first person'. Using 'I', 'me' or 'my' to construct your verse. Is this not referred to as 'the subject' of the sentence/verse??? Please suggest a poem of yours that does not use this writing style.

The CD you mention; is that not one of yours? Surely not a capitalistic edge to this 'little enterprise'. Please don't use this board as a sales pitch.

Worst of all you have not batted an eyelid at my observations of xenophobia! What the 'folk' is going on here?!

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 01:19 PM

If your xenophobia wasn't enough, nobody cares where you went "with your pen", or indeed which kind of "tropical fruits" you saw there - not when your poetry is so awful.

And rearranging sentence, words to fit, makes you sophistocated not.

Please stop spamming every forum there is with your sub-sixth-form rubbish.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 04:12 PM

And he still can't sing

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,walkaboutsverse
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 10:41 AM

More details in my defence - I've placed in English festival singing comp's, and have been published elsewhere. "Xenophobia" is ridiculous - I love the world being multicultural, as I think walkaboutsverse suggests.
"The Picker," (poem 6) is one of many poems/experiences (hence "first person") mentioning another/others.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 10:48 AM

Walkabouts 'Topaz' Verse.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Another guest
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 11:24 AM

I asked for a poem that didn't feature you as 'narrator'. Any other options?

You love the world as multi-cultural, yes we understand that, but would you love your neighbours as multi-cultural? What you say sounds like, 'the world has many cultures, but keep them away from me.'

I'm interested as to what you mean in poem 88 too. Are you homophobic as well???

Ta.

ps what is the "topaz" for???

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 11:25 AM

Now, boys...after all it could be verse.


A

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 11:44 AM

I think it's a reference to William 'Topaz' McGonigall, infamous Scottish 'poet.'

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Jul 06 - 07:07 AM

As I said in my introductory poem, PICTURES, the poems derive from my own experience, which includes travel through several countries/cultures - so clearly I've never had the intention of keeping other cultures "away from me".
Further to poem 88: one in three children here live in broken families now. As I said in THE OLD DART, I've nothing against same sex relationships - except them being allowed to foster a child: there are in society, of course, about 50% from each sex so, logically, it's far better for a child to be brought up by a male and a female. It's only very recently - and very wrong - that this has been allowed.

Subject: RE: Walkaboutsverse
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 08 Jul 06 - 01:27 PM

What a ridiculous thread this is, just like the book and CD