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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: JohnInKansas Date: 13 Jun 08 - 05:54 AM A rather old article, no longer up at the original MSNBC page: quoting from my notes: Recent data finds that an artist's 'wiki' chosen 2-to-1 over MySpace page Billboard updated 10:35 a.m. CT, Mon., March. 24, 2008 DENVER - Search for an artist on any of the popular search engines, and the top three results are practically guaranteed: the artist's official Web site, Wikipedia entry and MySpace page — often in that order. But while artists and their handlers devote massive attention to the Web site and MySpace, the Wikipedia page is often overlooked. Recent data suggests they may want to reconsider their priorities. According to data provided to Billboard from Yahoo — the second-most popular search engine on the Web after Google — those searching for artist information are selecting the Wikipedia entry link over artists' MySpace pages by a factor of more than 2-to-1. The Wikipedia entries are also more popular than artists' Web sites. "The interest that people had to go to MySpace to find out more about their favorite band is waning in favor of going to Wikipedia," Yahoo head of programming and label relations John Lenac says. "In the last six months, it's surpassed it." Yet when compared with the number of artist profiles on MySpace, Wikipedia entries are noticeably fewer. MySpace claims 3 million artist profiles. Wikipedia does not have an exact count of artist entries, but estimates that it's in the "tens of thousands," according to Wikipedia Foundation head of communications Jay Walsh. Missed opportunity What's more, because of Wikipedia's low profile relative to the MySpace hype machine, many artists and their managers remain ignorant of the resources available to them. "There's been many people I've talked to that didn't even know they could upload a Wikipedia page," Lenac says. "There's been some managers that didn't even know what it was." John |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: Marion Date: 13 Jun 08 - 11:33 AM I'm a Wikipedia reader rather than a participant, but the impression I've gotten is that the Wikipedia community frowns on self-promotion (unlike myspace, where self-promotion is understood to be a major purpose of the site). I may be wrong, but I think Wikipedia etiquette expects you to modestly wait until somebody else finds you "notable" enough to write an entry about. Marion |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: henryclem Date: 13 Jun 08 - 11:44 AM No question Myspace has been beneficial to me - it has been an enriching experience to hear so much good music and originality from people I would otherwise have known nothing of; and to extend beyond just the virtual acquaintanceships and meet (for the first time in person) people I already know. Just like Paul and Wendy I came across Kimski in this way and would add my recommendation to give her a listen. And without Myspace I wouldn't be off up to KFFC next week : I wouldn't even have had a radar for it to be on! Henry |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: Marion Date: 13 Jun 08 - 11:54 AM Here's a link to Wikipedia's standards for including an article about a musician. The footnote near the bottom states that submitting a page about yourself is unwelcome. Marion |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: JohnInKansas Date: 13 Jun 08 - 12:03 PM Marion - Wikipedia expects the original posting to be done by someone who knows something about the subject. They do expect accurate and confirmable information, and you do open the door for others to make comments/corrections to what is posted, so a page needs to be monitored - especially at the beginning - to mke sure that you don't have inappropriate "additional information" posted by people who might not be helpful. If you're the one who knows most about your "business" and history, then you're the one who needs to make the first post. If they believe it's inappropriate, they'll tell you before it appears and/or will ask for corrections or additional information. You'd need to consult the Wiki FAQs on posting for the details; but numerous articles I've seen - especially on fairly specific tech subjects - are quite obviously written by corporate advertising hacks or "company bloggers." Most "politicians" of any note, and quite a few "journalists," have Wiki pages that they, or their lackeys, wrote themselves. John |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: Marion Date: 13 Jun 08 - 12:34 PM Hi John. Did you read footnote 1 in my link above? I looked deeper and found a more detailed guideline here: Wikipedia: Autobiography. Marion |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: Def Shepard Date: 13 Jun 08 - 12:35 PM "Hasn't this been started just to get everyone to put up myspace pages again?" It seems so. |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: dwditty Date: 13 Jun 08 - 03:51 PM MySpace takes vitually no effort to set up. It cost nothing. You do not have to maintain it unless you wish to. If you make music, I don't see a downside to setting one up whether it works or not. Withour trying to be a wise-ass, why is there so much discussion (at times heated) about matters of little consequence one way or another? Just curious. dw |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: Def Shepard Date: 13 Jun 08 - 03:57 PM What doesn't matter to you perhaps matters to someone else, it's that simple. You seem to be making more fuss about setting up a page on myspace, than others are. All I said I was, I have no need of a myspace page, therefore why would I want to set one up, end of story. |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: Suegorgeous Date: 13 Jun 08 - 09:09 PM Kimski's link doesn't work... |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: greg stephens Date: 14 Jun 08 - 06:28 AM Muppitz' remark that Myspace is good practise for doing a website sems good sense. You can fool around easily with your Myspace site, changing the look and contact, and hopefully get a bit of feedback to let you know if you are getting whart you want out of it. Then it would be time to invest time and/or money in a fulkly-fledged website. That's the state we are in at the Boat Band Myspace site: playing around for a few weeks, then we will go for a website as well. Picking up on what Marion said earlier: I'm not convinced that having loads of friends is a good idea. I find having a flip through a band's friends can indicate the mileu they operate in, what sort of people they are etc. This is not possible if they have 5000 friends, including Bob Dylan, Amy Winehouse, Marylin Monroe and a host of scantily clad young ladies. |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: GUEST Date: 14 Jun 08 - 07:42 AM http://www.myspace.com/jalisherrifokonteh http://www.myspace.com/thesussexpistols http://www.myspace.com/royaloakfolklewes |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: kimsky Date: 14 Jun 08 - 01:51 PM http://www.myspace.com/wyrdguy Suegorgeous - sorry! I hadn't 'tested' it - this one does! |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: greg stephens Date: 22 Jun 08 - 04:11 PM Myspace changed its format in various ways four or five days ago. I've noticed that since that happened the number of people turning up on my Boat Band site has rapidly dropped to a tiny handfull. Has anybody else experienced this. It may be that we are experiencing a catastrophic drop in popularity, but I can't help feeling that there must be a connection. |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: Rockhen Date: 22 Jun 08 - 04:13 PM My site has been playing up a bit, too. Maybe it is a temporary glitch? I hope so. |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: Gene Burton Date: 22 Jun 08 - 05:02 PM I just assumed it was because my name's on a blacklist. |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: Spleen Cringe Date: 22 Jun 08 - 05:27 PM "Hasn't this been started just to get everyone to put up myspace pages again?" It seems so To echo Paul... and once again, the problem is?... I love Myspace. It's better than any record shop I've ever been in. It's a magical world of fab new music. With no pressure to buy. |
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Subject: MySpace value for Musicians/Bands? From: Fortunato Date: 28 Sep 08 - 08:56 AM Seeing Greg Stephens thread about his MySpace has me wondering. Have you folk who use it found that it was of value? Do you feel it has helped to increase awareness of your music? Increase CD sales? Obtain bookings? Improve bookings? Other benefits? regards, chance |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: Fortunato Date: 28 Sep 08 - 10:46 AM Thanks, Joe for combining the thread. |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 28 Sep 08 - 10:53 AM Hi Kids: If you are a musician and you're not on MySpace, it's like not having a phone. You could be a local hero at the Pub, but as far as being on the world stage...You are nowhere... It's called ADVERTISING & PROMOTION... And why anyone in this business would not take EVERY opportunity to promote themselves is just beyond me...BR |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: Dave (Bridge) Date: 28 Sep 08 - 12:14 PM I have a ceilidh band and since we have been on Myspace, getting bookings are much easier. Most people want to see/hear us before taking the plunge. It is so much easier to deirect them to the videos on myspace. 9 times out of ten they confirm the booking. Like wise for those who do not know much about ceilidhs. |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: GUEST,Peace Date: 28 Sep 08 - 01:08 PM What Dave said. Otherwise, I think it's a waste of time. |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: GUEST,a pro musician guest Date: 28 Sep 08 - 02:52 PM Questions on recent page visit counts ... Myspace had a note up saying the "play count" for visits to the new jukebox software were way off and the problem would be fixed soon; they hoped. My play counts were in the thousads per day - and I know that's not right. I think the site in general is a good thing. Very beneficial to folks making music, and it seems almost a requirement for folks making a living or at least some income from music. It's easy to use, interesting to browse and pretty open as to what you want to do with it. They have worked hard to make the spammers go away and have also worked hard to help you avoid the hackers. I also use Youtube and have benefited from my vdieso there and from other people putting up videos of my shows. Both Youtube and Myspace have helped me sell music (CDs and gigs). I am not a facebook user or at least not much of a user. I couldn't figure it out and didn't want to take the time to learn it. It didn't seem aimed at the professional "networking" sort of activities I am interested in. It seemed more social focused. I could be wrong about that, but that is my initial judgement. Myspace can be annoying sometimes, in the way new software rolls out - they have bumps and hiccups for a while with the way things run after software upgrades, but on the whole, it's a pretty good product. And you can't beat the price. Myspace functions as my on-line promo kit. |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: GUEST Date: 28 Sep 08 - 04:18 PM as a punter rather than an artist if I am browsing for a song, performer or type of music YouTube is infinitely better - I've made many discoveries on YouTube and none that I didn't already know of on MySpace if I find an artist with a MySpace site and not one of their own I presume they are a lightweight unless it is a very poor one an artists own site is always better that said you've got to have a MySpace site because it's expected and someone is going to ask Norcsalordie MySpace Norcsalordie own site my latest discovery on YouTube Ed Mulrooney - Botany Bay and another Stella Art Wars - Blackleg Miner |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: GUEST,Rafflesbear Date: 28 Sep 08 - 04:19 PM sorry - last post was me |
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Subject: RE: Myspace pages - Beneficial Or Not? From: GUEST,Jeff Date: 29 Sep 08 - 02:13 AM Yes, very beneficial. We set up links to 3 different myspace pages by going to www.jonesongs.com first and our respective visits and plays have gone up dramatically w/t links. I've been ecouraged to release a collection of trad songs and my wife's scored co-write agreements/appoinments w/several top name Nashville writers as a result of publisher reps listening to her tracks on myspace. We're going to release a sampler of the Jonesongs catalog commercially and what you hear on the Catalog-Listen section are some of the songs were considering. I've been contacted by a major label liason(whatever the fuck THAT is) as someone from their office reviewed my songs on myspace and they want to set up a meetinng w/me. W/o the internet presence the chances of that happening are slim and none. |
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