Folk vs. Country

Subject: RE: Folk vs. Country
From: bankley
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 08:16 PM

Nehi, that about separates the pepper from the poop...
You rode with Giants..      I bet you have some more truly great stories to tell... thanks so much... R.

Subject: RE: Folk vs. Country
From: TinDor
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 09:01 PM

Sandy Mclean wrote:

Jimmie Rogers is often called the "Father Of Country Music". However, his style was highly influenced by Mississippi Blues. The Carters are called "The First Family Of Country Music." Their style was mountain folk music.

Jimmie Rogers played a mixture of Anglo-celtic mountain music with blues but the Carter Family played a mixture of Anglo-Celtic mountain music, white gospel, Blues and Negro Spirituals. Generally speaking, "oldschool" country music is like Anglo-celtic music combined with Blues.

Subject: RE: Folk vs. Country
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 10:24 PM

Welcome Nehi! Please stay and share more with us!

Subject: RE: Folk vs. Country
From: Will Fly
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 04:11 AM

It's interesting how much crossover there must have been from genre to genre. I have a fairly large collection of records by Bob Wills and his Texas Playboys, and the thing that strikes me, over and over whenever I play through them, is not only is there a huge variety of styles in Wills's recordings as a whole - but even within some individual records. Some start off with a real country fiddle sound then break into hot jazz licks on guitar (the great Eldon Shamblin) and trumpet, for example. A simple little folksy tune turns into 40s swing.

Weird and wonderful - and I love it. My guess is that, on the road from rural venue to rural venue, city to city, they tried to cater for every possible audience. Steve Ripley's Tulsa band The Tractors has a little of that mix - and I believe Steve did organise a Playboys reunion at one time.

Subject: RE: Folk vs. Country
From: GUEST,Bill the sound
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 07:21 PM

I would prefer this thread to be tittled Folk and Country - music should be all about fun and enjoyment not competition, which the versus implies.

Subject: RE: Folk vs. Country
From: fumblefingers
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 11:34 PM

My country is the music that used to play on beer joint juke boxes.
Hank Williams & Thompson
Lefty Frizzell
Kitty Wells
Faron Young
Hank Snow
George Jones
Johnny Cash
Patsy Cline
Louvin Brothers
Rose Maddox

And dozens more. It's hard to find a good beer joint any more.

Subject: RE: Folk vs. Country
From: GUEST,KP
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 04:32 AM

From here in the Scottish bit of the UK, I wonder whether 'Country' is only/exclusively an American genre? There is folk music from many countries, but is there such a thing as (for example) 'English country music'? I don't mean people playing American country music or Americana, but people writing songs about the experience of rural living in England/Britain today?

I wonder if, for example, Show of Hands (whom I like hugely, so this is not a criticism) might be better described as 'English alt-country' rather than English folk music. When Tanglefoot were here it struck me that a song like 'When Dad and Uncle Archie Lost the Farm' was 'Canadian country music' although they were playing in a folk club. Are there similar artists in other countries? Perhaps Jimmy Shand might be described as a Scottish Country musician (not being a Scot I'd defer to the opinion of the Scots on that one).

What happens in Ireland, France, Australia, etc?

Interested to know!

Cheers
KP

Subject: RE: Folk vs. Country
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 01:28 PM

NEHI ,thankyou for your contribution ,is there any counry music in 6 /8 time,I find it strange that jigs are the the oldest dance form in irish music,but dont appear to have been preserved in the appalachian tradition [correct me if I am wrong]but do they occur or are they played very much in american old thyme/country music?

Subject: RE: Folk vs. Country
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 26 Feb 09 - 01:38 PM

"Show of Hands (whom I like hugely, so this is not a criticism) might be better described as 'English alt-country'"

Though, I must admit, I am not a fan of Show of Hands, this probably the bet description of their music I've ever read.

The Jimmy Shand Band, I've always been lead to believe, were/are Scottish Country Dance, this does open up a debate I think, about the definition of the word country in music. If you add the national label to country ie Scottish Country Dance, does this help with the definition?

Subject: RE: Folk vs. Country
From: Nehi
Date: 27 Feb 09 - 07:40 AM

Captain Birdseye...

6/8 time is very rare. I gave this quite a bit of thought and the only songs I recall in this time were Irish Washerwoman and Skiver the Quilt.

I remember that most of the Irish and Scottish Jigs that I heard as a young boy had been transposed into 2/4 or 4/4 time because square dancing was a two beat dance, not three.

Perhaps there are more but for the life of me, I can't remember them.

Subject: RE: Folk vs. Country
From: kendall
Date: 27 Feb 09 - 08:50 AM

fumblefingers, I'd like to add to your list, Roy Acuff, Ernest Tubb and Willy Nelson.

My posts keep disappearing...don't know why.

Subject: RE: Folk vs. Country
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 27 Feb 09 - 10:24 AM

Maybe Little Jimmy Dickens should be on that list as well!

Tater