Eurovision 2021

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: GUEST,Iains
Date: 24 May 21 - 04:15 AM

Terry Wogan stopped presenting the Eurovision song contest because of block voting by certain countries. Like it or not, the contest has politics running through it.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 24 May 21 - 04:28 AM

"... but I can’t understand why the whole fisaco [sic] is conducted in English?"

Mainly because more people in other participating countries speak English as a foreign language than any other language. I wouldn't complain is if was conducted in Czech as I understand Czech better than any other European language.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 24 May 21 - 07:30 AM

There's too much talking..

Norton is an unfunny smug arsehole, sneering at music he does not understand or appreciate..

.. hmmmm.. that sounds familiar...


I'm trying to remember now, if wogan actually talked dismissively over the music...???

Norton continues the wogan tradition of disrespect for the contest,
in the guise of light entertainment humour..

Reinforcing the BBC snobby mockery that the music is of secondary importance to the 'campness' of the competition..

Any wonder the rest of Europe, who perfectly understand the English language,
view Britain as a bunch of supercilious contemptuous ****s...???

.. and reflect that in their not voting for our dire substandard entries...????

The BBC should either pull out of the top 5,
or send a presenter who has genuine enthusiasm for such an eclectic scope of international music..

But then again, even the more respectful presentation of Glastonbury
allows too much airtime to the trite banter of the BBC music personality presenters...

However, all British TV is riddled with irritating wanky personality professional presenters...

[..yes of course,.. imho...]

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 24 May 21 - 07:42 AM

I am not sure it's just BBC television, it's more a general English thing I think. The liveblog the Guardian ran was perhaps worse, or at least as irritating: Guardian liveblog Eurovison finals

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: GUEST,Observer
Date: 24 May 21 - 11:28 AM

The Eurovision Song Contest is a rather unique event that costs the host country an absolute fortune to stage - A showcase of countries all all of whom want to be seen as participating while at the same time trying their utmost to ensure that they come nowhere near winning it.

Liked the crack about the max points awarded by Greece and Cyprus each year. They should just leave them up on the scoreboard for next year. They're a permanent fixture.

Anybody that does anything other than take the piss out of the whole thing is obviously soft in the head.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 24 May 21 - 11:56 AM

You can take the piss out of Eurovision, without showing snobby contempt for the music...


We can all take the piss out of our family and mates..
.. and all the people and things we like..

That's part of the fun of being Human..


Then there are those negative two faced folks
who sneer at others and the their preferences from under a feigned facade of civil respect for them...

Personally I too used to think Euovision was soiled pants..
That was a cultural norm I was conditioned to conform to until I started developing my own mature self awareness..

I've never liked wogan, and associated the entirety of Eurovision with him and his wanky (imho) brand of light entertainment..

It was only until about 18 years ago when rain kept me stuck in a seaside pub with a big telly..

Eurovision was on, we couldn't escape because of the rain, so submitted to put up with it..

By the end of the show it turned surprising out to be one of the best nights in a pub of strangers we'd ever enjoyed..

We soon realised it was mainly because of the post millennium influx of Central and Eastern European Nations..

Their music was just so refreshingly inventive and creative a mix of their own trad folk culture and western pop music..

The Brit entries by contrast, are usually complete shite...

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 May 21 - 11:57 AM

Sounds like the Olympics.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: GUEST,Iains
Date: 24 May 21 - 01:38 PM

From what I can make out the BBC has the sole choice of selecting "talent" for the Eurovision contest and unlike other countries there is no dry run on the airwaves to see how their choice may be received.
No surprise their offering bombed.

As some soul posted on the internet:
"The BBC chooses our entry and doesn't bother with a contest, or the live television voter-drawn trials. So every year, Britain sends some unprepared soul to perish on the world stage."

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: John J
Date: 24 May 21 - 06:33 PM

I recent years (decades?) results have been strongly influenced by politics.... IMHO.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 25 May 21 - 02:22 PM

I did not say I didn't like it - it just has the same effect as the vast majority of content presented by the BBC - I know were the off button is - pity that is not possible in a pub.

That does not mean I dislike it - just there are things I would far rather be doing - especially in a pub.

I don't even watch sport these days - ditto the presenters - even rugby has succumbed to inanity.

I had a pal who when Test cricket was available to all would watch with the sound off and Test Match Special on the radio.

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 May 21 - 08:57 AM

How was the Isralian entry?

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: GUEST
Date: 26 May 21 - 03:53 PM

Israelian I should say!

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 May 21 - 04:48 PM

"Israel's entry" will do. It was rather good, actually. It was in my top three, but I know nothing (in the words of Manuel...)

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 26 May 21 - 08:14 PM

Watched about 3 songs early on then defected to catching up with a few other things on iPlayer. Came to the conclusion it’s not about the songs, but more to do with video, special effects, flame throwers and costumes. Interesting to hear someone talking about the radio version: that might be a better test of the songs! Went back in about 11.40. for the news, but that was delayed so did see the final result given out and Italy’s re-performance. Not impressed!

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 May 21 - 08:39 PM

Well mebbe you should have made the effort to "endure' the whole thing before commenting on it. It was rather good, actually, with a good standard of "pop" and a very high standard apropos of production values. Still, how would you know...

Subject: RE: Eurovision 2021
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 27 May 21 - 05:36 AM

I rather like Israelian, as opposed to the incorrect "Argentinian"!!!