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Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance

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Sand Dance [Wilson Kepple and Betty] (full version)
Sand Dance


s&r 13 Oct 04 - 04:31 AM
GUEST,j.czainski@virgin.co 16 Oct 04 - 06:01 PM
GUEST,DavidW 16 Jan 05 - 12:17 AM
GUEST,nathan 04 Feb 05 - 11:30 AM
GUEST,Maurice Hubert 04 May 05 - 03:07 PM
Compton 04 May 05 - 08:13 PM
Torctgyd 05 May 05 - 06:20 AM
GUEST,n.taylor 31 Jul 05 - 04:33 PM
ard mhacha 31 Jul 05 - 04:38 PM
Kenny B (inactive) 01 Aug 05 - 02:57 PM
Long Firm Freddie 09 Oct 05 - 07:10 PM
GUEST,richard.jeffs@baimfilms.com 10 Dec 05 - 12:04 AM
GUEST,Vern Diesel 30 Dec 05 - 06:27 PM
GUEST,Burek, Henry 10 Apr 06 - 03:01 PM
GUEST,Henry Burek 16 Jul 06 - 07:06 AM
GUEST 24 Jul 06 - 07:31 PM
GUEST,Nell at The Paul O'Grady Show 28 Jul 06 - 12:38 PM
GUEST,YORKSHIRE ANN 03 Aug 06 - 03:19 PM
s&r 04 Aug 06 - 09:25 AM
GUEST,Bryan in Australia 15 Aug 06 - 03:24 AM
s&r 15 Aug 06 - 04:05 AM
GUEST,guest 15 Aug 06 - 04:20 AM
Compton 15 Aug 06 - 02:19 PM
s&r 15 Aug 06 - 03:29 PM
GUEST,Annie 15 Aug 06 - 06:22 PM
GUEST 22 Aug 06 - 07:32 AM
wigan 30 Aug 06 - 01:58 PM
s&r 30 Aug 06 - 02:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: s&r
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 04:31 AM

Here is a site where I found a comprehesive Midi of the Ballet Egyptien, which plays in Finale very well and I would think many other programs.

You need to log in as a free member, which takes a few seconds.

Stu


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: GUEST,j.czainski@virgin.co
Date: 16 Oct 04 - 06:01 PM

Could we replicate the sand dance from images in the Newcastle video.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: GUEST,DavidW
Date: 16 Jan 05 - 12:17 AM

THe music originally used in the 1930's was "Ballet Egyptien" by Luigini.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: GUEST,nathan
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 11:30 AM

i and friend called warren have performed the sand dance several times for many vaudeville shows at our theatre company 'Total Theatre'in western australia. we emulated it as perfectly as we could from an australian video called 'Vaudeville' - ABC publishing i think.
the music is called Luigini's ballet. or so i have heard. i wouldn't suggest using the sheik of araby, lovely as it is, but it is far too 'Hollywood' and not quircky enough.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: GUEST,Maurice Hubert
Date: 04 May 05 - 03:07 PM

It certainly wasn't In a monastry Garden and I can tell you that was written Albert Kettelby who also wrote Bells across the meadow. These and some others were issued on anvynil album by Decca back when pontious was a pilot. I think it was the ace of clubs label. I heeard it being used in a hi fi demo and just had to buy it because it was almost funny.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: Compton
Date: 04 May 05 - 08:13 PM

Just a thought about "Old Bazaar in Cairo"...written a long time before Clinton Ford....Certainly performed by George ("Turned out nice again") Formby!!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: Torctgyd
Date: 05 May 05 - 06:20 AM

Morcambe and Wise definitely used the first part of In A Persian Market in their skit on WK&B. The first time I knowingly heard IAPM I immediately pictured the WK&B sand dance. Perhaps they used both tunes stated here during their sand dancing career?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: GUEST,n.taylor
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 04:33 PM

does anyone have the sheet music? need to perform it at a party with an arabian night theme..


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: ard mhacha
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 04:38 PM

I have a very funny video of the pair doing their sand dance to a dubbed on Irish Reel, and almost perfect timing, a rare treat.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 02:57 PM

Hi
N Taylor
How long can you wait.
I am in Boston athe moment but will be in a position to send it on Sunday when I return to the UK
Kenny B


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: Long Firm Freddie
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 07:10 PM

Here's a link to
British Pathe, where by searching their news archive you can find a clip of Wilson Keppel & Betty (search on Wilson Keppel). Beware the rather ghastly minstrel troupe that appears at the end of the clip, though!

It's free to register, and you can download low quality preview clips with no charge.

There's loads of other music hall stars as well.

LFF


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: GUEST,richard.jeffs@baimfilms.com
Date: 10 Dec 05 - 12:04 AM

Hello. The Baim Collection has a film entitled STARLIGHT SERENADE (circa 1946) made by Federated Film Corporation which contains two dance sequences. Contact via the web site www.baimfilms.com


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: GUEST,Vern Diesel
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 06:27 PM

The dance is on The Best of british Comedy Films. I bought the video just for that dance. They are dressed as arabs and one snake charms the other. It is hilarious. But they made it a montage. it might be complete or at least 90 %. I am trying to find some of the number in its entirety. They say its Wilson and Keppel in the credits. Good day.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Wilson Keppel & Betty Sand dance
From: GUEST,Burek, Henry
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 03:01 PM

"In a Persian Market" and "Old Bazaar in Cairo" are certainly plausable contenders for the WKB sand dance tune. But I can confirm, having now seen the Pathe clip, that the tune is from Luingini's "Ballet Egyptien". It's a piece I'm familiar with having recently played it as an instrumentalist in a military band concert.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: GUEST,Henry Burek
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 07:06 AM

Further confirmation of "Ballet Egyptien" as WK&B's sand dance tune can be can be found in 'Roy Hudd's Cavalcade of Variety Acts' (Robson Books, 1997) which also relates the interesting facts that Wilson and Keppel first met up in the USA and that the band parts for the sand dance (in use for three decades!) were arranged by Hoagy Carmichael.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jul 06 - 07:31 PM

where can i download the wilson, kepple and betty sand dance music please


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: GUEST,Nell at The Paul O'Grady Show
Date: 28 Jul 06 - 12:38 PM

Hellllllp! I am hoping someone has the answer to this endless thread. We are taking some twins to America on Wednesday where they will be performing The Sand Dance for a Talent Show. I have choreographed the dance but fo the life of me cant find a lively version of The Egyptian Ballet for them to perforn to. I need a copy fast.... Help.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: GUEST,YORKSHIRE ANN
Date: 03 Aug 06 - 03:19 PM

I am also desperate to find the music to the WKB Sand Dance, I work with a Drama Group (Learning Disablities), they are performing Music around the World this year and this music would be great and fun for them to do, Please Please can you help. Ann


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: s&r
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 09:25 AM

Ballet Egyptien here


Stu


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: GUEST,Bryan in Australia
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 03:24 AM

The tune is from "In a Persian Market" and the description on the music is "The beggars in the Marketplace". The piece was written in 1920 by Albert Keteleby who was a writer of music to accompany silent films. There is a CD out called "The golden age of Albert Keteleby" (or something like that) and the "Persian Market" is included.

I recently played this piece with my local orchestra and it is still very popular with audiences.

Cheers

Bryan


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: s&r
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 04:05 AM

Here is a link to a midi of in a Persian Market. This sounds like my memory of the Leicester Square sand dance

Stu


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 04:20 AM

It's also very popular with me, Bryan in Australia - nothing wrong with a good old dollop of whimsy now & then, to lift the spirits; Ketelbey's 'Mystic Land Of Egypt' & 'In A Chinese Temple Garden' are also pretty damn good - just avoid the dirgy 'Bells Across The Meadow'-type glop, & set your cynicism aside..


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: Compton
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 02:19 PM

This dear old thread had been dancing around since the millenium!..Can it noy be knocked on the head?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: s&r
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 03:29 PM

Don't read it

Stu


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: GUEST,Annie
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 06:22 PM

Yorkshire Ann (& other prospective sand dancers) I have been known to do a version of this to 'In the Old Bazaar in Cairo' (both A & B pieces ) Basically you can do it one behind the other in a long line one way then a quick turn and back the other at appropriate times in music and according to size of room/space available. If appropriate this can turn into a Congo type line through the pub or wherever. Do you know what a 'step ball change' is (ask a tap dancer to demonstrate) then do it with a bit of a hop and with the same foot lead all the time. Use same arm as leg. To break it down -eg
step onto right foot then ball of left foot keeping it behind right leg. Keep repeating while moving forward. Turn as required by quick 180 degree jump then use other leg to give the right one a rest. Arms - bend front arm to look like swans neck (good visual image for special needs teaching ) with its head about level with your nose. Back arm straight and slightly behind back with hand turned palm up at right angles.
Variation - stand side by side in line bend knees and open and close them (charleston/black bottom style) whilst holding onto knees with hands. This works equally well with arms crossed or uncrossed.
Add a few changes of direction to this a few solo/duet bits and hey you have the makings of a sand dance. Hope this helps!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 07:32 AM

If your in the UK you will be pleased to know that the sand dance is still performed by the fabulos fezheads a kent based morris dance side

check out there link http://members.lycos.co.uk/Fezheads/

if you email them they might be able to get you a recording of there performance

regards singe


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: wigan
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 01:58 PM

been looking for the dots for this piece for ages! s&r, persian market sounds like the tune i remember, thanks. if anyone has the dots, i would love a copy, please please etc


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sand Dance (Wilson, Keppel & Betty)
From: s&r
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 02:23 PM

You can download a copy from sheetmusic.com for about £2.25.


Stu


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