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Subject: RE: BS: Marching Orangemen From: Big Mick Date: 14 Jul 00 - 12:59 AM Irish Rover, there is no need to apologize. It must be very hard for someone who has had to live with these types of memories to sit by and listen to a bunch of folks who live far away from it all discuss it as if they understood. I can tell you from my experiences during the Vietnam conflict that it is very frustrating to have people speak, whether they are empathetic or accusatory, as if they understand how the experience affected me. That is not to say that they can't discuss the ethics of the conflict, take a position on who was right/wrong, etc. In fact, that is one thing that, as an Irish American, I defend strongly. I hate it when my Irish cousins act like Yanks have no business discussing the troubles. Of course we do, we are here instead of there because of them. But we have no right to suppose that we understand the anguish that the people that live it day to day face. Your reaction was justified and once again helped give me insight into the problems in the land of my Grandparents. Thanks for sharing. All the best, Mick |
Subject: RE: BS: Marching Orangemen From: little john cameron Date: 14 Jul 00 - 11:19 AM Only six arrests following Orange Walks in county ONLY six people were arrested in connection with Orange Walks in Lanarkshire on Saturday, despite thousands taking part in parades across the county and thousands more watching.
Just one arrest is known to have been made during the course of the 28 walks which took place in South Lanarkshire.
This might be off interest. LJC
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Subject: RE: BS: Marching Orangemen From: Big Mick Date: 14 Jul 00 - 11:24 AM Well, Little John, I am pleased with that figure for the 12th of July. Now, factor in the 7 days leading up to it and tell me what you get. All the best, Mick |
Subject: RE: BS: Marching Orangemen From: little john cameron Date: 14 Jul 00 - 12:22 PM Mick, that is an article in the local paper in Scotland.I have been following it there and it seems to have been pretty non violent.The problem seems to be mostly confined to N.I. We only have the 12th.No "marches" only "walks".Later on there is the Hibernians "walk" It is much the same i.e. a few nutters on both sides but nothing on the scale of N.I. I don't want to get involved in this ,i just thought i would let the you guys see that it is not the same everywhere,altho' i think in the interest of peace and quiet i think they should stop all the marches and parades.Like someone said earlier "you have to be their and live it,to have a clue about the the deepseated suspicions on both sides. It is heartbreaking . LJC |
Subject: RE: BS: Marching Orangemen From: InOBU Date: 14 Jul 00 - 06:46 PM Dear Brother Cameron: That's how it should be, as I pointed out in Conrad's tread, a major Catholic church in Belfast was built by the Protestant community. Here we are fighting it out at the bottom of the British ecconomy. There is a reason no doupt, some where around 10 Downing street. I think there is fear about hearing fifes and warpipes playing the same tunes come eleciton day. Slan agus beanaught Larry |
Subject: RE: BS: Marching Orangemen From: GUEST,Devadip Singh Date: 14 Jul 00 - 06:55 PM I nominate Mr. Bladey for the "Asshole of the Month" award and I am not even Irish. |
Subject: RE: BS: Marching Orangemen From: Big Mick Date: 14 Jul 00 - 11:42 PM Thanks for pointing out the context of the comments, Little John. I apologize for any slight that may have been taken. Mick |
Subject: RE: BS: Marching Orangemen From: InOBU Date: 15 Jul 00 - 08:20 AM Brother Devadip Singh: After Jillianwalla (excuse the spelling) Shiks ARE Irish and Irish ARE Shiks, and people like Conrad are the ones on their knees! Jai Guru Nanik Larry |