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Christmas songs

04 Dec 99 - 07:24 PM
Alice 03 Dec 00 - 11:00 AM
jaze 03 Dec 00 - 12:47 PM
GUEST,Genie 04 Dec 01 - 12:42 AM
Genie 25 Nov 02 - 10:12 PM
Genie 05 Dec 02 - 12:00 AM
denise:^) 05 Dec 02 - 02:56 AM
Genie 05 Dec 02 - 01:55 PM
Dave Bryant 06 Dec 02 - 06:56 AM
Dave Bryant 06 Dec 02 - 07:38 AM
Schantieman 06 Dec 02 - 07:44 AM
cetmst 06 Dec 02 - 09:22 AM
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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
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Date: 04 Dec 99 - 07:24 PM

does any one know the song that goes my name is christmas carol i was born on christmas day i don't know who my dady is and mommy went away. and than it goies on that santa adopts her. i think it is song my a country singer


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Subject: Christmas In Killarney
From: Alice
Date: 03 Dec 00 - 11:00 AM

I have the music from a song book for Christmas in Killarney. The credits are, "Words and Music by John Redmond, James Cavanaugh, and Frank Weldon" (not Stan Rogers as mentioned earlier in this thread). This copy has only one verse, so if anyone knows of more verses, I'd be interested in seeing them, too.

Alice


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: jaze
Date: 03 Dec 00 - 12:47 PM

Regarding Cherry Tree Carol:Judy Collins does an ethereal(?) version on her Christmas CD "Come Rejoice". It has different lyrics than any I've seen here. I think Joan Baez also recorded it on one of her first lp's although sadly I've not heard that version.


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: GUEST,Genie
Date: 04 Dec 01 - 12:42 AM

Joe (and Greta),
Re your discussion of "Bring A Torch, Jeanette Isabella," here is my 2-sous worth.
 

 The carol is not about the actual nativity, as I understand it, but about  a father asking his daughters (Jeannette and Isabelle) to come to the town square to see the real-life creche scene (pageant-like) which the villagers have staged.   I believe it was the custom to have real people rather than wooden cutouts or statues in the manger scenes when the song was written.
If this is the scenario, then a white baby with rosy cheeks is not a concept hard to swallow, for he (or she) was the baby of a European villager -- not the historical Jesus.

BTW, at the risk of spelling mistakes from writing French from memory, here are the other two verses en Francais:
 

C'est un tort quand l'enfant sommeil,
C'est un tort de crier si fort.
Tessez-vous, l'un et l'autre d'abord!
Au moindre bruît, Jesus s'eveille!
Chut!  Chut!  Chut il dort en merveille!
Chut!  Chut!   Chut, voyez comme il dort!

Doucement dans l'etable close,
Doucement,  venez un moment.
Approchez, que Jesus est charmant,
Comme il est blanc, comme il est rose!
Do!  Do!  Do, que l'enfant  repose!
Do!  Do!  Do!   Il rit en dormant!
 

Genie

BTW, Jaze, Joan Baez's version of The Cherry Tree Carol is much shorter than Judy Collins's (and I prefer the shorter version, which ends when the cherry trees bow down to Jesus in Mary's womb and she has "cherries by command.")


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: Genie
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 10:12 PM

Alice, I don't know any other verses to "Christmas In Killarney" (J. Redmond, J. Cavanaugh, and F. Weldon), but there is an intro:

"Christmas in Killarney
Is wonderful to see.
Listen to my story
And I'll take you back with me."

Genie


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: Genie
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 12:00 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: denise:^)
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 02:56 AM

Well, with Genie's intro, I think you have all of "Christmas in Killarney." I can't remember any additional words, and I've checked with quite a few sources...

I think what makes it feel longer is that artists often stick in an instrumental break, and then repeat this song. It's certainly an option!

We had this on a Bing Crosby album when I was growing up, along with "Mele Kalikimaka." (And, as a child, I always wondered *why* 'Mele Kalikimaka' was "the wise way to say Merry Christmas to you!" I didn't think it sounded any wiser than regular ole' Merry Christmas...)
;^)
denise, who KNOWS now!


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: Genie
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 01:55 PM

For some silly reason, when Perry Como recorded it, he changed the line from
"..Santa Claus, you know, of course..."
to
"Santa Claus, of course, you know...," thus messing up the internal rhyme.

Anyway, if you hear that version, it's not the way the song was published.

Genie

Ah, Denise, yet another mondegreen for our collection! LOL


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 06:56 AM

I suppose it was about time for someone to refresh this thread again.

I noticed some queries about "Past 3 o'clock", the tune for this is called "London Waites". The usual version of this has the verse:

Born is a baby, gentle as maybe,
Son of th'eternal father supernal.

But when I was at school we sang a different set of lyrics completely - much more about the Waite (watchman) patrolling the city. All I can remember is:

Safe in your beds, you gentry are sleeping,
While under the stars my watch I am keeping.

Does anyone have the rest of these lyrics ? - Masato ?


One of my favourite modern Christmas Songs is "Standing in the Rain" by Sydney Carter. It's all about the idea of Christ turning up in an upper-class district on a christmas day.


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Subject: Lyr Add: LONDON WAITS
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 07:38 AM

I thought that I might complete my own version of the lyrics for London Waites - so here they are - if anyone wants to suggest any changes or additions, please do.

London Waites

Past three o'clock and a cold frosty morning.
Past three o'clock – good morrow masters all.

Safe in your beds you gentry are sleeping,
While under the stars my watch I am keeping.
Past three o'clock…

In years long ago was the birth of our saviour.
Born of a maid and laid in a manger.
Past three o'clock…

Out in the fields were shepherds abiding
When the angel appeared to give them good tiding.
Past three o'clock…

Lead by a star, three wise men came seeking
To find a new king with gifts for his keeping.
Past three o'clock…

Clear are the stars the, moon it is beaming,
And just like small jewels the frost it is gleaming.
Past three o'clock…

And when morning breaks, and the day it is dawning,
Sing praise to the Lord to hail Christmas Morning.
Past three o'clock…


It might be quite effective to sing the last chorus as a round or canon.


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: Schantieman
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 07:44 AM

We've just started rehearsing for our Carol concert next week (we always do the same old stuff!) and the basses tend to sing 'highly flavoured gravy' in the appropriate place as well.

Steve


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: cetmst
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 09:22 AM

Traditional tune from London Waites and text by George Ratcliffe Woodward for 'Past Three O'Clock' are in Carol Singer's Handbook, ed. Neil Jenkins, pub. Kevin Mayhew Ltd., 1993 and in The Oxford SAB Song Book, ed. Reginald Jacques, pub. Oxford University Press, 1951. The choir on the Chieftan's Bells of Dublin CD sings only the first two verses and the Deller Consort on Vanguard LP VRS499, The Holly and the Ivy sing the first three verses. Does anyone know a recording of all the verses ? The former book contains 100 carols including old ones previously mentioned in this thread, 'As Joseph Was a-Walking', 'In the Bleak Midwinter', God Rest You Merry, Gentlemen', 'Cherry Tree Carol'and some of my favorites, 'Adam Lay y-Bounden'(also on the Holly and the Ivy record), 'Mary's Boy Child' 'The Holly Bears a Berry'. The carol I look forward most to hear is 'Rorate Coeli Desuper' in the Oxford Book of Carols and recorded by Custer LaRue and the Baltimore Consort on CD Bright Day Star, Bonnie Rideout and Maggie Sansone on CD Scottish Christmas, the Revels on CD Celtic Feast of Song amd Jean Redpath on CD Still the Night


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Subject: Lyr Add: SPIDER'S CAROL (S. Haithwaite)
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 11:10 AM

Here’s another for you about why we hang tinsel on trees etc

SPIDER’S CAROL
S. Haithwaite

CHORUS: Spin, spider, spin. Keep on spinning your web
Till the cold frost of morn turns to silver your thread.

Watched by a spider, Mary bore her new babe,
The child who was sent mankind for to save,
And the gift of the ox and the ass who were there
Was a manger to lie in and a stable so bare.

Shepherds watched over their flocks through the night.
An angel came to them and gave them a fright,
Told them to go find the new baby king,
And a gift of a lamb's what the shepherds did bring.

Three men came to honour this tiny new babe.
Gold, frankincense, myrrh were the gifts that they gave,
For they'd seen a bright star which to them meant one thing,
So they'd travelled for miles just to honour this king.

High up in the roof sat the spider so small.
What gift could she give? She had nothing at all.
A frosty night came. Spider had an idea
To keep the babe warm she would spin her web here.

Over the door span spider her web,
Carefully weaving each delicate thread
To keep out the cold and the frost from the stall
Was the gift of the spider to the baby so small.

During the night the frost touched every thread.
No longer of silk, silver hung there instead.
It was seen by the soldiers sent to kill newborn babes.
They believed the stall empty so went on their way.

Centuries later we remember the day
When the gift of a spider a young baby saved.
Tinsel we hang to remember the web
And the frost that turned silver each delicate thread.


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 11:23 AM

THANKS so much, cetmst! I'm always looking for *new Christmas songs/carols (*new means one that I haven't heard before or noticed).

Which brings up a point that recently hit home to me. Many times I need to hear a song in a different atmosphere/context in order to really "hear" it. I purchased The Oxford Book of Carols in the Mudcat auction from RolyH and quickly devoured the whole book, playing each song on the piano...but somehow the beauty of that carol escaped me at the time.

Also, Masato found a site with a gorgeous variant of Greensleeves that I had probably heard before, but it just didn't make an impression on me earlier.

And finally, my latest find (except for Rorate that cetmst mentioned) is "Whence Comes this Rush of Wings." I recently found it on the net and fell in love with it. Then when I went back to an old Christmas music book I used as a child...THERE IT WAS!...totally unappreciated by me for many years.

I sequenced "Whence Comes this Rush of Wings" and Christmasse Comes but Once a Year". So Joe and MMario, be patient, Rorate will be next!


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Subject: Lyr Add: A COLD NIGHT (Michael Kelly)
From: GUEST,Michael Kelly
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 12:53 PM

Just discovered this site and I could spend all day here...Really enjoyed this particular thread. I am a solo gigging musician and love this time of year when I can throw in all those Chritmas songs for a few weeks. I also sing in my church choir and have written a few pieces that we sing including this contemporary song which we have sung at our Christmas concert for the past few years. If anyone would like a demo they can let me know.

A Cold Night
Michael Kelly (c) 2002

It's a cold night and the tiny snow flakes fall
And they're landing on the face of a baby boy
And his mother gently pushes then away
And wraps him tighter in the manger where he lays
And His father brings the ox and lambs in closer
to keep him warmer, for it's deep into December
And the shepherds, frightened by the angels singing
Come for shelter, with the Saviour

It's a cold night and the subway's running late
He lays sleeping lying on the subway grate
And the warm air makes hin dream of better times
Home and family and the joy of Christmas time
He's awakened by the sound of traffic passing
Children laughing, people rushing, Christmas shopping
In then ditance a chiming church bell beckons
Come for shelter with the Saviour

Silen night, Holy night
All is calm, all is bright

It's a cold night and out beyond the clouds
Angel chiors sing a timeless ageless song
And the world turns and revolves around the sun


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: Genie
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 05:15 PM

Michael, I like your song. Since it has a © date of 2002, I'm posting a link to it in this thread:

New Xmas/Solstice/Hanukkah/Kwansaa Songs


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: Genie
Date: 07 Dec 02 - 12:41 AM

Rabbit, your Spider song makes me think of a Ukrainian story/legend called "Yalynka" (the name for the Christmas tree), which is about a similar gift a spider gave to a family when times were hard.

I have been working on turning that story into a song and will probably be able to post it here before Christmas. It's not quite the same story, but with the same kind of theme.

Genie


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Subject: Lyr Add: A COLD NIGHT (Michael Kelly)
From: GUEST,Michael Kelly
Date: 07 Dec 02 - 03:10 AM

Sorry about this but I need to repost my lyrics for "A Cold Night" as ththere are several errors.

A Cold Night
Michael Kelly (c) 2002

It's a cold night and the tiny snow flakes fall
And they're landing on the face of a baby boy
And his mother gently brushes them away
And wraps him tighter in the manger where he lays
And His father brings the ox and lambs in closer
to keep him warmer, for it's deep into December
And the shepherds, frightened by the angels singing
Come for shelter, with the Saviour

It's a cold night and the subway's running late
He lays sleeping, lying on the subway grate
And the warm air makes him dream of days gone by
Home and family and the joy of Christmas time
He's awakened by the sound of traffic passing
Children laughing, people rushing, Christmas shopping
In the distance a chiming church bell beckons
Come for shelter with the Saviour

Silent night, Holy night
All is calm, all is bright

It's a cold night and out beyond the clouds
Angel chiors sing a timeless ageless song
And the world turns and revolves around the sun
They fill the heavens singing glory to the One
Far below them, he stumbles from the street into the mission
To get a bite to eat and sit and listen
As the mission choir is singing,
Come for shelter with the saviour
Come for shelter

Alleluia


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: GUEST,jaze
Date: 07 Dec 02 - 01:13 PM

Beautiful lyrics. Would love to be able to hear it sung.


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: GUEST,dave
Date: 08 Nov 09 - 07:25 AM

Which xmas song title words begin with the letters T H B A B


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: Marje
Date: 08 Nov 09 - 10:13 AM

The Holly Bears A Berry.
Do I get a prize, or did you ask this so that we could help you win one?

Marje


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Subject: Lyr Add: CHRISTMAS A COME (Caribbean)
From: bradfordian
Date: 28 Nov 09 - 03:40 PM

Christmas a come (for choir) Caribbean origin

CHRISTMAS A COME (Caribbean)

SOLO)
Christmas a come, me wan' me lah-ma
Christmas a come, me wan' me lah-ma
Pretty, pretty girl me wan' me lah-ma
Pretty, pretty girl me wan' me lah-ma

SA)
Christmas a come, me wan' me lah-ma
Christmas a come, me wan' me lah-ma
Pretty, pretty girl me wan' me lah-ma
Pretty, pretty girl me wan' me lah-ma

SATB)
Not a ring to me finger, me wan' me lah-ma
Not a ring to me finger, me wan' me lah-ma
SA)Pretty, pretty girl me wan' me lah-ma (TB)Christmas a come, Christmas a come
SA)Pretty, pretty girl me wan' me lah-ma (TB)Christmas a come, Christmas a come

SATB)
Not a ring to me finger, me wan' me lah-ma
Not a ring to me finger, me wan' me lah-ma
SA)Pretty, pretty girl me wan' me lah-ma (TB)Christmas a come, Christmas a come
SA)Pretty, pretty girl me wan' me lah-ma (TB)Christmas a come, Christmas a come

ATB)
Not a too' to me mouth, me wan' me lah-ma
Not a too' to me mouth, me wan' me lah-ma
A)Pretty, pretty girl me wan' me lah-ma (TB)Christmas a come, Christmas a come
A)Pretty, pretty girl me wan' me lah-ma (TB)Christmas a come, Christmas a come

ATB)
Not a too' to me mouth, me wan' me lah-ma
Not a too' to me mouth, me wan' me lah-ma
A)Pretty, pretty girl me wan' me lah-ma (TB)Christmas a come, Christmas a come
A)Pretty, pretty girl me wan' me lah-ma (TB)Christmas a come, Christmas a come

Soprano Descant for v4&5:
Christmas a come, Christmas a come, Christmas a come, Christmas a come,

Lahma, being the best party clothes

An arrangement is available c/o Oxford University Press

brad


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Nov 09 - 04:10 PM

Poem cum folk-carol 230 of 230: AS GOSPELLERS HAVE SAID/CHRISTMAS SUNG SIMPLY

(TUNE:

D A B A G E
E E D G F# G
D A B A G E
D A B A G E
E E D G F# G
D A B A G E
E E D G F# G

D A B A G E
E D G F# G
D A B A G E
E D G F# G)

As gospellers have said,
Beneath signalling skies,
On land dusty to tread,
A trough in a stable
Was the strawy first-bed
Of a divine baby -
The forgiving Godhead.

A season for new hope -
There then and here now;
The yuletide of goodwill -
There then and here now.

In respect of this chance,
Beneath bright or dark skies,
Faith's the star that we glance
Attending Christ's churches
And trying to enhance,
With singing and ritual,
Our God-loving stance.

A...

(You may hear it on myspace.)
(C) David Franks 2003


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: s&r
Date: 29 Nov 09 - 05:32 AM

For those who can't read the above there are a further 16 400 instances of this copy pasted spam on the WWW.

David you can't really count spam as publishing.

Stu


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Nov 09 - 05:49 AM

Over the years, I may have posted the above piece 16 or so times, Stu - but certainly not 16, 400 times, thanks.


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: s&r
Date: 29 Nov 09 - 06:06 AM

I only Googled it David.

It just seems such a shame to keep your thoughts fixed in time .

Stu


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: Marje
Date: 30 Nov 09 - 04:39 AM

I was trying to think what was so odd about those verses. Then I worked it out - it reads like a bad computer translation into English from some other language. A Babelfish carol.

Marje


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Nov 09 - 07:53 AM

Dear Marje: the first stanza refers to the first Christmas; the second, by way of comparison, to Christmas now; and the chorus refers to both - "There then and here now" - wherever your "here" may be, i.e.


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Subject: Lyr Add: NO ROOM AT THE INN (from Mahalia Jackson)
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 30 Nov 09 - 08:09 AM

A lot of great, unfamiliar songs on here. My favorite is No Room At The Inn, recorded by Mahalia Jackson. It has a rocking beat and I liike doing it best on electric guitar because the notes sustain more than on acoustic. I did this on acoustic guitar a couple of weeks ago at the U'n'I coffee house in Springfield, Mass. and the audience really got into it.

Chorus:
    There was no room, no room at the inn
    There was no room, no room at the inn
    When the time had surely come
    For the Savior to be born
    There was no room, no room at the inn

According to the word, there was a virgin birth
And the father of Jesus was wanderin' around that night
He was looking for a placde for the Savior to be born
But there was no room, no room at the inn

I know that mother was worried and she began to moan
She prayed to be delivered of her only son
She was very sad I know, for she had no place to go
For there was no room, no room at the inn

The porter and the bellboy, the waitress and the cook
Will be witnesses up in heaven to all the things it took
When they were turned away, 'cause they had no place to stay
For there was no room, no room at the inn

This song bursts with energy and a solid beat, and I love how down to earth the observations are. Bethlehem bellboys? What a hoot!

Jerry


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Subject: Lyr Add: LYING IN A MANGER (David Medd)
From: bradfordian
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 11:01 AM

LYING IN A MANGER by David Medd

Lying in a manger, ox and ass beside,
Man above the manger watching with his bride;
A little boy lay on the straw sleeping in the hay,

CHORUS
And angels sang a song for him born on Christmas day
angels sang a song for him, born on Christmas day

In the fall of winter, out beside a stream,
Lying in a wigwam in the silver beam,
The tribes around brought rabbit skins and coloured beads to play

In the summer sunlight, down below the hill
With the palms above him, the sea-wind sleeping still,
A little boy lay on the sand, the sea-birds watched him play

In the smoky city, in the foggy street,
Mist around the houses, water at your feet,
"A boy is born at number 4!" I heard the milkman say

A good 1 for kids, melodic.
brad


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 12:56 PM

One of my favourites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBUC_pRdrJA Mary's Boy Child Sorry, couldn't make a blue clicky!


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: topical tom
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 01:04 PM

Again, my apologies! I lost my cookie. That post as Guest was mine.


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Subject: Set List for Xmas performance at local DAR mtg.
From: GUEST,June
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 07:19 PM

I've been asked to sing for the local DAR group. I was asked to perform some less-common songs (and then to end with leading the group in some regular Christmas carols.) Here's my list. Any suggestions?

The Angel Gabriel (Sting)
Beautiful Star (Judds)
The Bells of Paradise (learned from the Ritchie family)
Brightest and Best
The Cherry Tree Carol (learned from Betty Smith)
The Coventry Carol
Down In Yon Forest
The Friendly Beasts (she requested this one)
Gloucestershire Wassail
The Holly Bears a Berry
The Holly and the Ivy
The Holly Tree Carol (she asked for something by Jean Ritchie)
Sussex Mummer's Carol


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: GUEST,Felipa
Date: 19 Dec 21 - 05:40 PM

season's greetings to all


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Subject: RE: Christmas songs
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 20 Dec 21 - 04:52 AM

In response to John In Brisbane, above:   Christmas in the Trenches - written and performed by John McCutcheon    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJi41RWaTCs
Wikipedia: "Christmas in the Trenches"     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_in_the_Trenches


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