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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: JohnInKansas Date: 05 Nov 01 - 02:01 PM Kendall Your 05-Nov-01 - 10:53 AM said you getting a "BAD COMMAND" but it's not clear which thing your trying to do when it happens. Was this in the DOS window, perhaps? If you let Defrag run overnight, it may have just stopped itself and "guv up." As mentioned above, whenever anything writes something to the drive, Defrag has to start over. If it restarts twelve times, it will stop and display a message "Defrag has restarted 12 times, do you wish to continue" or something like that. If you don't respond withing some ?? period of time, it just shuts itself off. I have never had to close things on the "Start" bar at the bottom of the screen - that is the things that load automatically when you boot up - in order to run Defrag. On the other hand, I don't recognize any of the things Sorcha is describing. Have you compared what programs you both have installed to make sure your talking about the same things? If you're getting some results with Sorcha, by all means stick with it. I'll watch for a while. John |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: kendall Date: 05 Nov 01 - 02:10 PM Yes I have the same as Sorcha. I dumped all the icons in the lower right, started defrag, it went to 2% and started over. Just like it has. I've tried everything except throwing it out the window. That's next! John, I got that message in dos when I ran the command you gave me.In any case, I know I have more than enough space, so, thats not it. I ran defrag all night, but this am, it was still working and getting nowhere. It did not quit, but it still kept starting over at 3%. As Foghorn Leghorn says "It's choppin' but there's no chips flyin'" |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: GUEST,Jeri Date: 05 Nov 01 - 02:15 PM First the rant, then how to defrag...
Personally, I feel it's absolutely idiotic to have a utility program (defrag) that's disabled by a feature (that useless, un-removable, piece-of-crap startup tray) of the same operating system. What were those morons thinking? I Kendall, this is what I have to do to run defrag:
Close all programs.
(I really hope I didn't mess up any HTML, 'cause I can't fix it at the moment.) |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: kendall Date: 05 Nov 01 - 02:45 PM ok, I'll try one more thing. If it works, I'll take you yo dinner. |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: JohnInKansas Date: 05 Nov 01 - 02:59 PM Kendall Guest, Jeri has the right idea if you really have to close everything. I just started defrag on my C: drive, with WinExplorer, Win98 Help, IE5, and a Microsoft Word doc all open, and it ran well into the 20% range before I stopped it. You should be up to 3% or so in less than a minute, or maybe 2. Something is writing to your drive at least that often. Are you on a "permanent" net connection? I noted Real Audio in the discussion above. Have you had it installed for at least a few weeks before the problem started? Microsoft has had a warning about earlier versions, and it did totally trash my system when I tried to install it. The newest version (a month ago) caused me enough problems that I took it off. If it's worked for you for a while, don't worry about it - but if it's new, it might be suspect. I found one file in the Mickey$oft Knowledge Base relating to "failure to open IE from email hyperlink," and it did implicate a conflict between IE and the "audio" system. Unfortunately - it applies only to Mac IE. But then, defrag isn't the real problem - the fact that it doesn't work does indicate a system problem, and the reason for coming back to it is that we hope it's a "fix one - fix all" situation. Probably wishful thinking. John |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: GUEST,Jeri Date: 05 Nov 01 - 03:07 PM I doubt defrag will fix his MSOutlook/clickie problem, but it won't hurt. As to Outlook, I think either a setting got changed, Outlook is messed up by another program, or is just plain messed up. |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: JohnInKansas Date: 05 Nov 01 - 03:12 PM Kendall Two emails received. Clickies from both emails work, and the one you described on the site worked fine for me. The one at whatchersweb is quite appropriate. In fact, so good - it's HERE. John |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: JohnInKansas Date: 05 Nov 01 - 03:31 PM For those watching Kendall has forwarded two emails to me, with links in question. Links in both emails worked in my Outlook Express. Kendall also mentioned a link on one of the sites that didn't work for him. That link worked for me, after the link in the email connected me to the site, so the problem apparently is not confined to Outlook - it's also there in IE (?). John |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: Amergin Date: 05 Nov 01 - 04:55 PM I still say try removing and rebuilding the email account...if that does not work...set up a new identity... |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: Bill D Date: 05 Nov 01 - 05:27 PM Jeri is right about defrag utilities...but there is a neat solution...the defrag from Windows ME is available as a standalone download |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: kendall Date: 05 Nov 01 - 05:57 PM It worked! I was able to run the defrag through to the end, and, some of the previously troublesome links now work. Thanks everyone for you efforts. |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: Sorcha Date: 05 Nov 01 - 06:02 PM WHOOPEEE!!! Now, do it every week. Clean out temp files, cookies, empty re cycle bin, close ALL programs INCLUDING screen saver and background, run scan disc and then de frag. After de fragging, re boot. Aftr the re boot, re set screen savers, etc.
I do it every Sunday morning......but I usually do cookies at least once a day. All the net searches I do get me LOTS of cookies---I have been know to build up over 1,000 in one day doing searches. |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: JohnInKansas Date: 05 Nov 01 - 06:49 PM Kendall I'm AMAZED! Good job. Right now I think I'd go have a tall brown one. For future reference - when you've relaxed a little - Windows includes a utility called Task Scheculer. It should be one of those little icons at the lower right of the screen after you reboot. Go to Start - Help, click the Search tab, and type in "Scheduled Tasks." When you click on the "List Topics" button, it should bring up all you need to set things up so that Defrag runs automatically, on a schedule - while you sleep (provided the machine is turned on). Mine runs at 1 am on the first day of each month. John |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: MMario Date: 05 Nov 01 - 07:02 PM For routine maintainence I would also recommend finding one of the registry cleaning programs - I use both RegClean and EasyCleaner (they seem to use slightly different methedologies -- sometimes one will find stuff the other doesn't) - and run them every few days to remove invalid links in your registry. |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: Sorcha Date: 05 Nov 01 - 07:58 PM Bloody damn task scheduler has never worked for me. I do all the Stuff it says to do, and find out that my computer has NOT been defragged.........BTW, I call it "fragging"---intentional "friendly fire".....like shooting the asshole LT in the back during a fire fight. |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: kendall Date: 05 Nov 01 - 08:12 PM I'll give it a try anyway. Thanks. |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: kendall Date: 05 Nov 01 - 08:34 PM John, I just downloaded that defrag program. Thanks for the help. |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: kendall Date: 05 Nov 01 - 08:37 PM Mario, where do I find this easyclean or regclean? |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: kendall Date: 05 Nov 01 - 08:50 PM I found them with google, but, they both give serious warnings about losing good stuff in the registry. I dont dare go in there, there's monsters in there. |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 05 Nov 01 - 09:05 PM When you clean out the temp files, can you just delete everything in that folder? |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: Sorcha Date: 05 Nov 01 - 09:20 PM Yes. It will delete your Mudcat cookie, but you can re set it. Drag and highlight, then click Delete. |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: kendall Date: 06 Nov 01 - 11:21 AM ok, I stuck my neck out and downloaded Regclean. |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: JohnInKansas Date: 06 Nov 01 - 01:49 PM Sorcha The task scheduler won't run if the computer's not turned on when the schedule comes up. Different versions of Win vary, but if the machine is off, or if you are using it, it won't generally wait for the next opportunity. It will wait for the next scheduled time. Maybe that's why it hasn't worked for you. I interrupt mine so often that it works more like an alarm clock than an "assistant." When it tries to run, I abort, and then when I'm done I've been reminded to do (manually) what was scheduled. It's an imperfect world. REGCLEAN: I found that I have an old copy of RegClean that I downloaded from Microsoft about 3 years ago. It was produced by some of their people who apparently had some time on their hands - but was, at that time - unsupported by Microsoft. I've checked the uSoft web, and it's no longer available directly. It is/was included in the "Project 98 Resource Kit," so that would be one place to go ($$$). It was supplied there as a "developers' tool." It has proliferated on the web, so there are a couple of places where you can download it. I downloaded it on recommendation of a PC mfr's support techie - for a specific problem. I've never used it much since, because it's never found anything to clean. It should make a backup, so you can "restore" things if something goes wrong. The problem is that a registry "restore" adds the old stuff back, but won't necessarily delete "new keys" that may have been added. Registry restore, too frequently used, is one thing that can make it useful to have something like regclean? It can be a useful utility, but not one that I would run regularly, "just in case it might help," like disk cleanup, scandisk, and defrag. Incidentally, it is a good idea to run scandisk regularly, preferably just before running defrag, since any lost file clusters or bad disk clusters will be corrected by scandisk so that they don't interfere with defrag. John |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: Bill D Date: 06 Nov 01 - 06:38 PM for my money,or lack of it, the best reg cleaner is RegCleaner, by Jouni Vuorio ...free, and GOOD! and, Sorcha...why not try one of the programs that limit cookies to ONLY the ones that you want? Wow, does that save a lot of hassle.
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: kendall Date: 07 Nov 01 - 07:25 PM Well folks, it's back. Cant open e mail links. |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: GUEST Date: 07 Nov 01 - 07:32 PM Please, Kendall Get someone local, who can actully see the machine, to take a look. It's probably a couple of clicks problem, but as this thread has shown, remote help (unless you have XP) is virtually impossible If I lived next door to you, I could sort it - find someone near
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: kendall Date: 07 Nov 01 - 08:22 PM You're right. |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: kendall Date: 08 Nov 01 - 09:12 AM I contacted my computer guru, he lives 25 miles away, and he says I should find out what program they are using, maybe I dont have that program. Does that make sense? |
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Subject: RE: Help: computer problem From: GUEST Date: 09 Nov 01 - 04:56 AM "what program they are using, maybe I dont have that program"??? No, it makes no sense at all |
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