BS: How do you Convince a Moron...

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST,John
Date: 29 Nov 03 - 12:05 PM

Kerryman got married, brill performance all night (both virgins). Next morning she stretched her arms. He looked in awe and said "Oh Jesus, two more!"

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Nov 03 - 02:35 PM

Martin Gibson-
So, only people who agree uncritically with your stupid bigoted views can be genuine folksingers? Gee, thanks for clearing that up.
Wanker!

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Nov 03 - 03:18 PM

Looks like you and GUEST have got a real solid relationship going here, Martin... :-)

I was puzzled by the term "wanker" when I first heard it, but I got used to it after a while. The British have a lot of neat "insult" words and phrases all their own. Ever seen "Fawlty Towers"?

The Cubans make a big thing of out dressing in nothing but the cleanest, freshest clothes possible, the moment work is over...the cleanest shoes I've ever seen...and then they go out for the evening and have a whale of a good time. They look askance at us North Americans in our ratty old sneakers and torn jeans, and wonder what the heck is wrong with us for wearing stuff like that. Man, I just loved it down there in Cardenas.

Trinidad's nice too, but is full of crime...so you need to be a bit careful there, specially after dark.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: kendall
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 07:44 AM

Jamaica is no paradise either.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Sam L
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 10:42 AM

One approach might be to start with common interests, and express simply what you find falling short of the mark--try to go easy and point by point, instead of letting the whole bulk of exasperation come flying out in an expletive. It's hard. Not that it will often work.

It's not unusual that someone might like women to look like models on magazines, but it's pretty funny to put it over as if it were a sharp and cutting insight. Then to congratulate oneself for Speaking my mind--as if it were a point of intellectual pride to be able to say Polly want a cracker. Very funny.

   Women don't have to sign an allegiance to one grooming practice or another. Both looks work well enough for me--I wouldn't trade the classic hippy-girl style for 20 years of Playboy bunnies. It does say something interesting about a culture, I think, that women have tossed aside bigger constraints than this in short order. Without drawing on a beard, there's nothing left for women to wear to signify cross-dressing. They can wear anything. Female is like Gravity--it propagates through everything and nothing. But I understand why things like this can be important to guys--guy I worked with was always mistaking long-haired guys for "babes" when driving through the park. He couldn't percieve the subtler gender cues. He needed help--flags, signs, markers, directions.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 11:48 AM

Guest

You're a coward. And probably a lousy fo9lksinger.

Get a job.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 11:50 AM

Guest Martin Gibson:
I may be missing something here, but you end your post with "Yep, I'm glad I live in a country where I can speak my mind. and then object when the very next poster speaks his/her mind by calling you a "Wanker"

Do you seriously defend your right to speak your mind, but reserve that right to yourself?

Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 11:52 AM

Sorry for the 9

Yeah, I've seen Fawlty Towers. Boring!

Do you think wankers practice their art over pictures of women with hairy armpits?

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Mickey191
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 12:27 PM

The cloak of anonimnity seems to evoke such wrangling. Did this actually start over hairy armpits? I propose that the wanker word be banned henceforth, also the "Get a life " phrase.

Can't we all just get along?

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: jimmyt
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 01:01 PM

actually , Mickey, I think you set the tone with the thread title, inferring that a person with different beliefs than you have is a moron.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Mickey191
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 01:42 PM

But they are!

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 02:12 PM

LOL, Mickey. However, there is a point to be made here. 'Moron' doesn't say anything definitive. Ignorant, misguided, misinformed, lacking in judgment, willfully blind, out of touch, infantile and blinkered, do.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 03:53 PM

Yes, Martin! I'm sure some wankers practice over such pictures. Just consider this: for hundreds of thousands of years there were women with hairy armpits everywhere and no one thought anything about it. Then some smart cookie invented shaving equipment, deoderants, depilatory equipment and stuff like that, and proceeded to brainwash everyone to buy the stuff with advertising.

You sir, are a victim of a cunning marketing plan! :-)

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 04:46 PM

Yeah right! Look here...no one on this flippin thread has convinced me of anything yet. Try offerin me free beers and smokes. I can be found at the Tim Hortons in Blind River eh?

- BDiBR

p.s. I will take advances from girls eh? No9 refunds!

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Peg
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 05:59 PM

well, I suppose it's interesting that this thread devolved into a discussion of hairy armpits.

Why is it okay for men to have them but not women?

I consider myself very feminine. I shave my legs but not my underarms. Personal preferemce. It is certainly looked down on by many American men but also I have met a great many who find it very sexy.
As far as I know, the majority of European women do not shave their armpits either.
Different strokes for different folks. I think women who shave too much of their body hair off are pretty gross to look at, personally...

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 07:37 PM

". . . but also I have met a great many who find it very sexy."

Expand on that a bit why not?

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 08:56 PM

Excuse me, but....

.... ahhh, like can I bust up the hairy armpits thing to try to bring the thread back into at least the same county from which it started?

Sorry, but may an armpit thread is in order...

Forget the morons and work on those folks with any sembelence of a brain... the morons will either not vote or vote for Bush... That is a given... Forget 'em....

Go talk to your neighbors...

If you find that they are morons, go to the next house...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Amos
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 09:57 PM

Toxic mimicry is a fine phrase for it, in sooth, Michael. It is corrosive to soul, heart and mind.

A

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Sam L
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 08:21 AM

I don't think it sounds like you're as interested in changing anyone's mind as in being right where they are wrong. This is a problem with the party. Remember Gore's sighs? He fell into the trap of trying to prove he was the better candidate--you can't prove the self-evident, you wind up casting doubt. Okay, he won anyway, but not by enough. Why not focus on the positives of any other candidate? It's less to remember than Bush's negatives.

   Expand on sexy, Guest? Charm--explain. You get it or you don't. I don't prefer--well actually as a hairy guy I tend to like the smooth swimmer's look for guys. Smooth, sleek, looks like a car. It's nothing to explain. On the other hand a sexy female attribute looks kind of like an unmade bed. Different looks. Never underestimate the power of cuteness.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: kendall
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 08:32 AM

I used to think it was not fair that some people had more hair under their arms than I have on my head.
Now, if a woman judges me by the presence or the absence of a few inches of dead protein sticking out of the top of my head, well, I don't bother with such shallow women. (And they don't bother with me, so it works out good)

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Peg
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 10:57 AM

back to the original topic...

Perhaps one reason people vote the way they do, or hold the views they do about candidates, is that the vast majority of Americnas get their information from the television. Ever since a sweaty Nixon in a grey suit squared off against a robust Kennedy in a black suit, this has been how we judged our candidates.
So a candidate who does not radiate the "right" kind of charm, charisma, authority, etc. is written off from the start. One ill-timed facial expression or malaproprism has doomed a presidential campaign in the past, sad but true.

It's also true that Americans do not seem to tolerate ethic-sounding names in white guys (let's face it, most presidential candidadtes are white) and they are also picky about looks, including clothing choices. I remember Paul Simon was not taken seriously because he wore bow ties. Paul Tsongas had a problem because no one could pronounce his name. Dukakis was short and had a "foreign" name...etc. etc. It's silly. But it's how a LOT of people decide who they're going to vote for.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 11:30 AM

Yep. TV has had a disastrous effect on people's attention span and comprehension of information, to say nothing of their judgement of a candidate's worth as a human being.

Now would Arnold Schwarzenneger have been elected if he was 5 foot 2 inches tall, chubby, and oriental or Hispanic? Not a chance. He could be brilliant, capable, and the best candidate possible, but he still would not get elected under those circumstances, providing the opposition could come up with any candidate (no matter how stupid or incompetent) who was white, 6 feet tall, and looked like Ted Danson.

The System likes to have a foolish, easily manipulated, ill-informed electorate. It makes them easier to divide and conquer. TV is the System's number one instrument of control.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 01:31 PM

Just a take off on what Peg and Little Hawk have mentioned about the media... Thinking back to the debates between Bush and Gore, it was the media who was quick to jump in with their observations of just who had won... I watched them all from a Green Party perspective and would be hard pressed to see Bush as a winer of any of them yet the talking media heads were quick to point out Gore "sighs" but totally ignored Bush's rather impish "smirks"... So they declare Bush the winner and immediately afterwards have public reactions... Well, those reactions were not candid since those folks in the audience were either highly partisan for one candidate of the other or, if not, certainly influenced by the talking heads spin...

I also don't think it should be lost that big media has been uniformly behind efforts to drop the FCC media ownership regulations and have know before the 2000 election that Bush was the kind of guy that, if media could help, would in tern return the *favor*. And he has. It has taken a massive public outcry to get Congress to act to reverse Micheal Powell's decision... But that's just for now. The FCC regs can still be attached to the "chicken-crap" omnibus appropriations bill and slide thru anyway....

BTW, IMO, the Omnibus bill is no way to run a government... It is just a trick played on the minority party and a rip off of billions of tax payers dollars...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 02:48 PM

but getting back to the hair: Fred, I in fact think armpit hair is just fine on the feminine, as well. But Peg says the men find her armpit hair sexy, and I start to get silly visuals when pondering how they communicated this subjective feeling to her for her knowledge.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 04:44 PM

Fred Miller, you say: "It does say something interesting about a culture, I think, that women have tossed aside bigger constraints than this in short order."

I agree. However, cultural norms resist common sense. For instance, for what reason do men wear ties?

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 05:51 PM

Dear Guest...whaddya mean "subjective"?...it works this way: They yell, "Omigod! Lookit them beautiful pits!" and start to hyperventilate and drool and follow her around like little puppy dogs. It's really just blatantly obvious how they feel, and it proves that armpit hair is no liability for women whatsoever.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Amos
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 06:06 PM

Men wear ties? More and more they do not. When they do it is to establish a signal of agreement about reality.


A

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Mickey191
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 06:22 PM

LH, Thanks for the tip, I've just tossed my Bic. When do I ditch the Arrid? Some of you people have given me a whole new insight into feminine hygiene. What say you about ladies with a wee mustache? (NOT I!)


There is a commercial currently running in NY, which is for some magic formula to remove hair. Sitting in a chair is a faceless woman. If she had one more hair, she could swing in a tree. I have to say the commercial is repulsive, because this lady hasn't shaved in 10 years. I'd love to see the help wanted ad she answered to get that job: Are your nights lonely, can you walk thru snow drifts & still feel warm, Can you perm your hairy legs ? Well, have we've got a job for you!

It is a societal thing, some cultures forbid women to bathe during their menses or when they're pregnant.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Peg
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 06:57 PM

Little hawk: yup. Pretty much just like that.

Mickey: I know you are joking, but just to address this question: since when does grooming equate with hygiene? Shaving has to do with grooming. Washing has to do with hygiene. The fact that a woman does not shave her underarms or legs does not mean she does not wash regularly, nor are they in any way connected, any more than a man who has a beard should be thought to be unlikely to bathe regularly.

Hairy does not equal dirty.

It IS true that the more hair present, the more likely it is to trap bacteria, so one may have to make an effort to be extra clean. Ditching the Arrid may not be a good idea. But not using anti-perspirants (as opposed to deodorants) might be a good idea; the former block pores unnaturally and prevent sweating; the latter help kill bacteria that cause odor. Sweat itself is clean and odorless.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: jimmyt
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 07:26 PM

This may be a record for the largest Thread Drift I have encountered. I am with you, though, Peg Hygiene has absolutely nothing to do with the subject. I once knew a young lady from Finland who had underamr hair and I have to admit it was not a turn off at all!

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 07:48 PM

"to establish a signal of agreement about reality. " Boy, Amos, you've lost me on that one.

As for ties, visit any office.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Amos
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 08:08 PM

It a signal, Eb, between guys, that they are signing up for certain ways of conduct and beliefs and such. "See? I'm on board! I'm wearing a tie! I'll choke the Ego for the sake of Getting Along!" or something like that...

Engineers by and large don't wear 'em...they just get results.

A

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Mickey191
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 08:45 PM

Thanks Peg for the correction-you are absolutely right. Where's the principal's office? I assume you're sending me there.

Now I'll confess-if I see a lady with hairy armpits, I draw a cerain conclusion about her.* Wrong or right, I think she's lazy. My bet would be if you asked women over the age of 50, most would draw the same conclusion. Now you can all jump on my case.

*Does not apply to French ladys.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 09:23 PM

But, Peg

I don't know know how anyone can find a woman sexy with bits of crystalized deodorant residue stuck in the hair in her armpits.

Mickey191, I agree completely with you. Sometimes it just offends some to be a good old red blooded American male. What a pleasure it is to not have to worry about toilet seats everytime you drink a couple of beers.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 09:42 PM

f I see a lady with hairy armpits, I draw a cerain conclusion about her.* Wrong or right, I think she's lazy. Mickey, that's not my conclusion at all (I suppose one could say that about bearded men, though, at least those who let it all spritz out every which direction), it seems to me that the "lady" ("lady?" What's wrong with 'woman'?) is almost invariably of a certain age. Count back to the 60s and you'll probably discover that they were involved in that movement. And there is no harm in that; I think it is interesting. Those heady days made history.

"It a signal, Eb, between guys, that they are signing up for certain ways of conduct and beliefs and such. "See? I'm on board! I'm wearing a tie! I'll choke the Ego for the sake of Getting Along!" or something like that..." Ah, but Amos, that's not really an explanation at all. Let me put it to you again: Why do men wear ties? To keep gravy off their shirts? To bring color to their faces? For the sheer comfort of them? To please their womenfolk? If the latter is the answer, then there is a direct correlation between tie wearing and underarm shaving...

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Amos
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 09:56 PM

Well, what I am saying is they wear them to signal to other men and women that they are willing to behave. I don't think it has any real practical use, like guarding shirts from soup. There's a whole history to the cravat which I am ignorant of, but these days it is just a fraternity flag in my opinion.

A

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Mickey191
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 11:59 PM

Ebbie, To a degree, we are all products of the mores of our formative years, and I was taught to use the word lady. (Whether she qualifies or not) Also, I simply like it better then woman. Are we getting a bit picky here??

Martin, I had the very same thought about the residue of cerain deodorants. I just Know someone is going to post how they love the sparkle of that residue in the moonlight. Like twinkling stars - especially if said female has that real thick black hair. The contrast is quite breathtaking. (Ha - I made a funny)

No one answered my moustache question.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 12:03 AM

Buffy Sainte-Marie is NOT lazy! Case closed. There may have been the odd case of a woman who didn't shave because she was lazy, but most lazy women are still enough in the grip of societally sanctioned fear tactics that their laziness falls instantly by the wayside when it comes to this particular practice. Ditto for shaving legs.

I believe, though, that it used to be considered sexy among blacks for black women to have hair on their legs. Whether that is still so, I don't know.

Now ties...ties have got to be among the stupidest, most useless, and most uncomfortable devices ever foisted on the male gender. GAAAAHHH! I wear a tie about once every 15 years or so, for those very rare occasions (like when I was the 2nd-best man at a friend's wedding awhile back).

One nice thing about them, though. They can provide a spot of colour and artistic flourish in an otherwise pretty drab uniform. Still, it ain't worth the hassle, really.

North American Indians knew how to dress. Beautifully and practically at the same time.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 12:24 AM

Whether she qualifies or not Ah, Mickey, what does it take to qualify? Talk about picky!

I don't feel strongly about it, I just think that 'woman' is a good unpretentious designation. I suspect that we picked up 'lady' from "our betters" in times past, whether in England or in highfalutin' society here. Well, I prefer to think that we don't need no stinkin' lady.

Mind you, it is my contention that rather than 'man', the generic should be 'woman'. After all, 'man' is not only implied in the term but is inside. ;)

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Sam L
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 12:27 AM

Ebbie, I think I agree with Amos. There's no point to wearing a tie except to say Oh all right I'll wear the damn tie if I'm supposed to. The pointlessness makes the point that one is just doing what one is supposed to in a given situation.

Guest, oh, um.

Armpit hair, neither sexy nor unsexy, maybe signaling that one is lazy, maybe that they have better things to do. There was a time if I saw an unshaven woman I wouldn't assume but would suppose she might be a modern dancer--a species of female I much recommend to any red-blooded male. I might still suppose she did what the hell she wanted to, which is sexy. One of the most unsexy things I notice are women who laugh on cue when they are supposed to, and don't know how to laugh just because something is actually funny. This is why we go to plays and movies--to see if a date has any sense of things or not. Any respectable guy is pleased rather than embarrassed if his girl laughs out loud on her own, then all the other people, shaved, in ties, reekingly perfumed and cologned, try to get it.

   I usually like long hair for men and women, but when it started to go, I took a liking to very short hair, for me. I couldn't do the bald-spot pony-tail thing. I'm liking the facial-hair and head-hair about the same length sort of look.

   It is a sad fate never to find the right haircut, but it is a doom many of us encounter.

   It may be true that t.v. undermines intelligent politics, but so does everything, and it's always been the case that it's harder for a very bright person to get elected, despite that it's a good idea. And how hard is it to know not to get made up like Herman Munster's flaming gay brother for a t.v. debate, Gore?--not that there's anything wrong with that. Some of my best friends are Herman Munster's flaming gay brother.

I didn't see Bush winning any debates either, and don't expect to, but people seem to identify with his regular-guy doofiness. He was more spontaneous, for (better or) worse. T.V. isn't going to go away so it goes back to whether one is happy feeling right, or really wants to effect anything.

if I was going to try to change someone's mind, I'd try not to piss them off, but say I don't think Bush has the long-term strategy for what he's got us into. And even if he did, he's not the right name to do it under. Economically he may force an end to social security--which no one can politically propose but could result from a fiscal crisis. He has created distrust and animosity apart from his policies per se, but by bungling every possible diplomacy, being too blatantly dismissive of many people's concerns, here and in the world generally. An administrative change would be a step toward a healing diplomacy. And moreover, every day he looks a little more like Queen Elizabeth.

I don't know if that's under two minutes, but I think if you attack people's views utterly you lose your chance to sway them. Lay low. Appear to take people and their idiotic crap seriously, pretend to be swayed by them, on some points, then barter your own concerns cheap.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: jimmyt
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 09:53 AM

Hear, Hear, Fred Miller! A wise man among us, who finally steps forward in the foray and pretty much sums it up. I pretty much agree with you straight across the board on this post. The original premise being that anyone who has dissimilar beliefs is a moron, is not much of a way to effect change. Period. I also agree that President Bush has done a fair amount of bungling of things and somehow has managed to piss off most of our friends in Europe with his blunt approach to diplomatic matters.

Here is a premise that I would like to discuss briefly inasmuch as we have strayed to the hair/hairless. woman/lady stuff already anyway.

I believe that we need a change to Democratic politics either next election or certainly the election after that if, for no other reason that I think party domination of any branch of government is a bad idea, and will ultimately corrupt regardless of the party. agree or disagree?

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Peg
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 10:19 AM

okay, more thread drift...It may   be true that *some* women are too "lazy" to shave, but again, that brings it into the realm of hygiene, too, doesn't it? Does that mean women who do not wear make-up are also lazy? Maybe they just don't need it, or just plain don't want to. I've had more than one ignorant person assume I must be a lesbian because I don't shave under my arms. Actually, most of the lesbians I know who I have had occasion to see in summer clothes or at clothing-optional campsites like the one I go to each summer, DO shave there.

But why does your theory not apply to French women? This is just too inconsistent to make sense. This also clearly points out that we are talking about a cultural norm. Use of the term "red-blooded" always means to me, men too insecure about their sexuality to accept any sort of look or practice beyond the screamingly "normal." How dull. Bleached blonde, hairless, loads of make-up, high heels, spandex...yawn.

The crystal deodorant comment doesn't make sense. I do not use that product regularly, but in my experience it is not a problem, and the ones I do use do not leave any residue.

As for the age thing, I know MANY women of ALL ages who do not shave under their arms, from 16 to 60. Some shave their legs, some do not. The amount of body hair they have sometimes prompts these choices. If I had the small amount of pale leg hair some of my friends have, I might opt not to shave my legs, either. But it's not the case, so I do. It's an aesthetic choice as well; I like the way underarm hair looks.

I am certainly not lazy about my grooming, but I can only speak for myself. I have lovely long hair and I wear lipstick every day and skirts and dresses half the time. When I worked as an exotic dancer, I had to shave everything. Now I choose to shave my legs only. It seems to be okay with Europeans, who do not see such grooming habits as indicative of femininity or lack thereof. Then again, they do not get all freaked out by a bit of nudity either.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 10:43 AM

This thread has far surpassed my original expectations, moving seamlessly from mere political mudslinging to perceptive social commentary to farcical humour and back again without missing a beat.

Gotta love the Mudcat! Good on you, Peg, and good on you too, Fred.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 10:57 AM

Well, Mickey, what was your moustache's question? I'll give it a shot...

A

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Mickey191
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 01:33 PM

"Does not apply to French Ladies" and "whether she qualifys or not" were phrases I employed to bring some humor to my posts. Obviously, they failed to raise even a smile.

Am I not alowed to express an oinion here? I said if I see hairy armpits on a lady, whether wrong or right, I think it's due to laziness. I must admit I was not familiar with the stance being taken by Peg & Buffy that it is a political statement. Nor did I know that gay ladies wear hairy armpits as a badge of some sort. Seems everything is not as it appears.

Peg, I'm glad you have lovely long hair & wear lipstick-but if you were sans lipstick, I doubt anyone would notice or care. The reason I...... Oh forget it.

Amos, I have had it with ANY hair question. Maybe next year I'll go at the mustache question.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 01:53 PM

Mickey:

You sound exasperated!?! Deep breath -- no offense has been meant in this thread that I have seen. Being misinterpreted is part of the normal risk. Don't let it bug ya!!

A

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: jimmyt
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 02:29 PM

So, let me see if I get this straight, Mickey, You are dancing around the political correctness of the lady -woman and hairy-shaved armpit issues, but you still don't think it offensive that you call anyone not sharing your political views morons? Wow! I am constantly being amazed by things!

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Mickey191
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 02:54 PM

jimmyt, you are repeating yourself. Wine does that. This is the 3rd time for same query. I've answered you twice before. Get over it.

Amos, Thanks for the kind words. I really thought we were beating a dead horse. I was afraid if I asked the Moustache question we might bring the poor thing back to life only to slay him again.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: jimmyt
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 03:00 PM

It is just that when I say something stupid and crass like that, if it is brought to my attention, I realize how small minded I have been and apologize.   You are right. I guess it is the wine talking.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 03:56 PM

Mickey, good humored poking and tweaking shouldn't feel bad.