BS: Bush--A little credit please?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: MAV
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 12:06 AM

Naemanson,

We need to agree on definitions. I think I have a rather different view of conservatives than you

Well we might. I had said "American Conservatives" (see post numbered "14-Apr-01 - 08:47 AM", this thread)

In America, there are several kinds of conservatives as I mentioned in an earlier post.

I'm a libertarian flavored Republican.

"I believe conservatives are more focused on the status quo, not rocking the boat, a strict and restrictive interpretation of the rule of law."

Well, the status quo at the moment is borderline socialism with the government attempting to become the health care industry, power producing industry, retirement security industry, education industry (mission accomplished)etc.

I don't think we want to "conserve" that but rather the Constitution as written.(strict reading)

Reagan, or maybe it was Bush Sr., authorized the Iran-Contra trade in order to side step the constitutional checks placed on the Presidency

The Boland (sp?) amendment, I believe, was the piece of legislation in question.

I'm not sure of the status of the "amendment" or if it was ever ratified by the states.(I didn't find it)

The congress had seemed to forget that the Constitution gave the power to conduct foreign affairs to the president.

I know that the Constitution grants certain rights to each person in the United States. That is the way it is worded. There are no words in the Constitution about those freedoms belonging to citizens

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquillity, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America

Here "the people" establish the Constitution and authorize the limits on government. The Declaration of Independence further states "certain inalienable rights" which implies they are universal, given by God (or nature).

No insomnia here.

Nitey nite.

mav out

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: kendall
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 08:10 AM

> I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. > > > > > > I like big cars, big tits, and big cigars. > > > > > > I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some > > > > > > mid-level governmental functionary democrat with a bad comb-over > who > > > > wants > > > > > > to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. > > > > > > China approaches our plane in international waters with fighter > > jets, > > > > > > crashes into it forcing us into an emergency landing, seizes our > > plane > > > > > > and > > > > > > holds our crewmen captive and then demands an apology......here's > > your > > > > > > apology China.....F--K YOU! > > > > > > I'm not in touch with my feelings and I like it that way, dammit. > > > > > > I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, > Ice-T > > > > > > or Marilyn Manson sang. > > > > > > I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer. > > > > > > I believe it's called the Boy Scouts for a reason. > > > > > > Japan uses a sneak attack on us during World War II and wreaks > havoc > > > > > > on Pearl Harbor which forces the U.S. into the war. Then we > recently > > > > > > apologized to Japan for dropping the bomb on Hiroshima which > helped > > to > > > > > > end > > > > > > the war. Here's an amendment to that apology......F--K YOU TOO! > > > > > > I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. > > > > > > I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. > > > > > > I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, you'd better do it > > in > > > > > > English. > > > > > > I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for > > > unpopular > > > > > > opinions or actions. > > > > > > I think Oprah is a big fat pig. > > > > > > I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July. > > > > > > I think that being a student doesn't give you any more > enlightenment > > > > > > than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing > > the > > > > > > bill to put your pansy ass through 4-7 years of college, you > haven't > > > > > > begun to be enlightened. > > > > > > I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite > or > > > > > > fat-free on the package. > > > > > > Hillary Clinton is a carpet-munching lesbian. > > > > > > My heroes are John Wayne, the Simpsons, and whoever canceled Dr. > > > Quinn, > > > > > > Medicine Woman. > > > > > > I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. > > > > > > I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about > it. > > > > > > I think global warming is a big lie. Where are all those experts > > now, > > > > > > when I am freezing my ass through a > > > > > > long winter? > > > > > > I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty > > years > > > in > > > > > > the desert after getting chased out of Egypt, I haven't > > > > > > burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither > have > > > you, > > > > > > so shut-the-f--k-up already. > > > > > > I want to know which church is it exactly where the Rev. Jessie > > > Jackson > > > > > > preaches. And where does he get his money. And why is he always > part > > > of > > > > > > the problem and not the solution. > > > > > > I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if > you're > > > > > > running from them. I also think they have the right to pull your > ass > > > > > > over if you are breaking the law, regardless of what color you > are. > > > > > > I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't > > want > > > > > > you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the > > > > > > world for the next four years. > > > > > > I worry about dying before I get even. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hate those bastards standing in the intersections trying to sell > > me > > > > > > crap or trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their cause. > > > These > > > > > > people should be targets. I think if you are in the passing lane, > > and > > > > > > not passing, your license should be revoked, and you should be > > forced > > > to > > > > > > ride the bus until you promise to never delay the rest of us > again. > > > > > > I think beef jerky could quite possibly be the perfect food. > > > > > > I enjoy watching high speed pursuits, the more damage the better. > > > > > > I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it > takes > > > two > > > > > > parents. > > > > > > I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please > > > don't > > > > > > pretend they are a political statement. > > > > > > I think Dr. Seuss was a genius. I'm neither angry nor > > disenfranchised, > > > > > > no matter > > > > > > how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to > believe > > > > > > otherwise. I believe if she has her lips on your d--k, it is sex, > > and > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > sex for both of you. This even applies when she is a fat pig with > > self > > > > > > esteem > > > > > > issues, and you are President of the United States. > > > > > > It means , dumbass. If > > > > > > that makes me a bad American, then yes, I'm a bad American. > > > > > > You will get NO apology from me for it. If you too are a bad > > American > > > > > > please forward this to everyone you know. We need our country > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** This email has been scanned for viruses *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. > > > > > > I like big cars, big tits, and big cigars. > > > > > > I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some > > > > > > mid-level governmental functionary democrat with a bad comb-over > who > > > > wants > > > > > > to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. > > > > > > China approaches our plane in international waters with fighter > > jets, > > > > > > crashes into it forcing us into an emergency landing, seizes our > > plane > > > > > > and > > > > > > holds our crewmen captive and then demands an apology......here's > > your > > > > > > apology China.....F--K YOU! > > > > > > I'm not in touch with my feelings and I like it that way, dammit. > > > > > > I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, > Ice-T > > > > > > or Marilyn Manson sang. > > > > > > I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer. > > > > > > I believe it's called the Boy Scouts for a reason. > > > > > > Japan uses a sneak attack on us during World War II and wreaks > havoc > > > > > > on Pearl Harbor which forces the U.S. into the war. Then we > recently > > > > > > apologized to Japan for dropping the bomb on Hiroshima which > helped > > to > > > > > > end > > > > > > the war. Here's an amendment to that apology......F--K YOU TOO! > > > > > > I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. > > > > > > I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. > > > > > > I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, you'd better do it > > in > > > > > > English. > > > > > > I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for > > > unpopular > > > > > > opinions or actions. > > > > > > I think Oprah is a big fat pig. > > > > > > I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July. > > > > > > I think that being a student doesn't give you any more > enlightenment > > > > > > than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing > > the > > > > > > bill to put your pansy ass through 4-7 years of college, you > haven't > > > > > > begun to be enlightened. > > > > > > I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite > or > > > > > > fat-free on the package. > > > > > > Hillary Clinton is a carpet-munching lesbian. > > > > > > My heroes are John Wayne, the Simpsons, and whoever canceled Dr. > > > Quinn, > > > > > > Medicine Woman. > > > > > > I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. > > > > > > I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about > it. > > > > > > I think global warming is a big lie. Where are all those experts > > now, > > > > > > when I am freezing my ass through a > > > > > > long winter? > > > > > > I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty > > years > > > in > > > > > > the desert after getting chased out of Egypt, I haven't > > > > > > burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither > have > > > you, > > > > > > so shut-the-f--k-up already. > > > > > > I want to know which church is it exactly where the Rev. Jessie > > > Jackson > > > > > > preaches. And where does he get his money. And why is he always > part > > > of > > > > > > the problem and not the solution. > > > > > > I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if > you're > > > > > > running from them. I also think they have the right to pull your > ass > > > > > > over if you are breaking the law, regardless of what color you > are. > > > > > > I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't > > want > > > > > > you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the > > > > > > world for the next four years. > > > > > > I worry about dying before I get even. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hate those bastards standing in the intersections trying to sell > > me > > > > > > crap or trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their cause. > > > These > > > > > > people should be targets. I think if you are in the passing lane, > > and > > > > > > not passing, your license should be revoked, and you should be > > forced > > > to > > > > > > ride the bus until you promise to never delay the rest of us > again. > > > > > > I think beef jerky could quite possibly be the perfect food. > > > > > > I enjoy watching high speed pursuits, the more damage the better. > > > > > > I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it > takes > > > two > > > > > > parents. > > > > > > I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please > > > don't > > > > > > pretend they are a political statement. > > > > > > I think Dr. Seuss was a genius. I'm neither angry nor > > disenfranchised, > > > > > > no matter > > > > > > how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to > believe > > > > > > otherwise. I believe if she has her lips on your d--k, it is sex, > > and > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > sex for both of you. This even applies when she is a fat pig with > > self > > > > > > esteem > > > > > > issues, and you are President of the United States. > > > > > > It means , dumbass. If > > > > > > that makes me a bad American, then yes, I'm a bad American. > > > > > > You will get NO apology from me for it. If you too are a bad > > American > > > > > > please forward this to everyone you know. We need our country > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** This email has been scanned for viruses *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. > > > > > > I like big cars, big tits, and big cigars. > > > > > > I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some > > > > > > mid-level governmental functionary democrat with a bad comb-over > who > > > > wants > > > > > > to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. > > > > > > China approaches our plane in international waters with fighter > > jets, > > > > > > crashes into it forcing us into an emergency landing, seizes our > > plane > > > > > > and > > > > > > holds our crewmen captive and then demands an apology......here's > > your > > > > > > apology China.....F--K YOU! > > > > > > I'm not in touch with my feelings and I like it that way, dammit. > > > > > > I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, > Ice-T > > > > > > or Marilyn Manson sang. > > > > > > I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer. > > > > > > I believe it's called the Boy Scouts for a reason. > > > > > > Japan uses a sneak attack on us during World War II and wreaks > havoc > > > > > > on Pearl Harbor which forces the U.S. into the war. Then we > recently > > > > > > apologized to Japan for dropping the bomb on Hiroshima which > helped > > to > > > > > > end > > > > > > the war. Here's an amendment to that apology......F--K YOU TOO! > > > > > > I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. > > > > > > I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. > > > > > > I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, you'd better do it > > in > > > > > > English. > > > > > > I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for > > > unpopular > > > > > > opinions or actions. > > > > > > I think Oprah is a big fat pig. > > > > > > I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July. > > > > > > I think that being a student doesn't give you any more > enlightenment > > > > > > than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing > > the > > > > > > bill to put your pansy ass through 4-7 years of college, you > haven't > > > > > > begun to be enlightened. > > > > > > I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite > or > > > > > > fat-free on the package. > > > > > > Hillary Clinton is a carpet-munching lesbian. > > > > > > My heroes are John Wayne, the Simpsons, and whoever canceled Dr. > > > Quinn, > > > > > > Medicine Woman. > > > > > > I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. > > > > > > I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about > it. > > > > > > I think global warming is a big lie. Where are all those experts > > now, > > > > > > when I am freezing my ass through a > > > > > > long winter? > > > > > > I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty > > years > > > in > > > > > > the desert after getting chased out of Egypt, I haven't > > > > > > burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither > have > > > you, > > > > > > so shut-the-f--k-up already. > > > > > > I want to know which church is it exactly where the Rev. Jessie > > > Jackson > > > > > > preaches. And where does he get his money. And why is he always > part > > > of > > > > > > the problem and not the solution. > > > > > > I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if > you're > > > > > > running from them. I also think they have the right to pull your > ass > > > > > > over if you are breaking the law, regardless of what color you > are. > > > > > > I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't > > want > > > > > > you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the > > > > > > world for the next four years. > > > > > > I worry about dying before I get even. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hate those bastards standing in the intersections trying to sell > > me > > > > > > crap or trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their cause. > > > These > > > > > > people should be targets. I think if you are in the passing lane, > > and > > > > > > not passing, your license should be revoked, and you should be > > forced > > > to > > > > > > ride the bus until you promise to never delay the rest of us > again. > > > > > > I think beef jerky could quite possibly be the perfect food. > > > > > > I enjoy watching high speed pursuits, the more damage the better. > > > > > > I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it > takes > > > two > > > > > > parents. > > > > > > I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please > > > don't > > > > > > pretend they are a political statement. > > > > > > I think Dr. Seuss was a genius. I'm neither angry nor > > disenfranchised, > > > > > > no matter > > > > > > how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to > believe > > > > > > otherwise. I believe if she has her lips on your d--k, it is sex, > > and > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > sex for both of you. This even applies when she is a fat pig with > > self > > > > > > esteem > > > > > > issues, and you are President of the United States. > > > > > > It means , dumbass. If > > > > > > that makes me a bad American, then yes, I'm a bad American. > > > > > > You will get NO apology from me for it. If you too are a bad > > American > > > > > > please forward this to everyone you know. We need our country > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** This email has been scanned for viruses *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. > > > > > > I like big cars, big tits, and big cigars. > > > > > > I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some > > > > > > mid-level governmental functionary democrat with a bad comb-over > who > > > > wants > > > > > > to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. > > > > > > China approaches our plane in international waters with fighter > > jets, > > > > > > crashes into it forcing us into an emergency landing, seizes our > > plane > > > > > > and > > > > > > holds our crewmen captive and then demands an apology......here's > > your > > > > > > apology China.....F--K YOU! > > > > > > I'm not in touch with my feelings and I like it that way, dammit. > > > > > > I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, > Ice-T > > > > > > or Marilyn Manson sang. > > > > > > I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer. > > > > > > I believe it's called the Boy Scouts for a reason. > > > > > > Japan uses a sneak attack on us during World War II and wreaks > havoc > > > > > > on Pearl Harbor which forces the U.S. into the war. Then we > recently > > > > > > apologized to Japan for dropping the bomb on Hiroshima which > helped > > to > > > > > > end > > > > > > the war. Here's an amendment to that apology......F--K YOU TOO! > > > > > > I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. > > > > > > I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. > > > > > > I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, you'd better do it > > in > > > > > > English. > > > > > > I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for > > > unpopular > > > > > > opinions or actions. > > > > > > I think Oprah is a big fat pig. > > > > > > I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July. > > > > > > I think that being a student doesn't give you any more > enlightenment > > > > > > than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing > > the > > > > > > bill to put your pansy ass through 4-7 years of college, you > haven't > > > > > > begun to be enlightened. > > > > > > I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite > or > > > > > > fat-free on the package. > > > > > > Hillary Clinton is a carpet-munching lesbian. > > > > > > My heroes are John Wayne, the Simpsons, and whoever canceled Dr. > > > Quinn, > > > > > > Medicine Woman. > > > > > > I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. > > > > > > I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about > it. > > > > > > I think global warming is a big lie. Where are all those experts > > now, > > > > > > when I am freezing my ass through a > > > > > > long winter? > > > > > > I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty > > years > > > in > > > > > > the desert after getting chased out of Egypt, I haven't > > > > > > burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither > have > > > you, > > > > > > so shut-the-f--k-up already. > > > > > > I want to know which church is it exactly where the Rev. Jessie > > > Jackson > > > > > > preaches. And where does he get his money. And why is he always > part > > > of > > > > > > the problem and not the solution. > > > > > > I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if > you're > > > > > > running from them. I also think they have the right to pull your > ass > > > > > > over if you are breaking the law, regardless of what color you > are. > > > > > > I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't > > want > > > > > > you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the > > > > > > world for the next four years. > > > > > > I worry about dying before I get even. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hate those bastards standing in the intersections trying to sell > > me > > > > > > crap or trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their cause. > > > These > > > > > > people should be targets. I think if you are in the passing lane, > > and > > > > > > not passing, your license should be revoked, and you should be > > forced > > > to > > > > > > ride the bus until you promise to never delay the rest of us > again. > > > > > > I think beef jerky could quite possibly be the perfect food. > > > > > > I enjoy watching high speed pursuits, the more damage the better. > > > > > > I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it > takes > > > two > > > > > > parents. > > > > > > I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please > > > don't > > > > > > pretend they are a political statement. > > > > > > I think Dr. Seuss was a genius. I'm neither angry nor > > disenfranchised, > > > > > > no matter > > > > > > how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to > believe > > > > > > otherwise. I believe if she has her lips on your d--k, it is sex, > > and > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > sex for both of you. This even applies when she is a fat pig with > > self > > > > > > esteem > > > > > > issues, and you are President of the United States. > > > > > > It means , dumbass. If > > > > > > that makes me a bad American, then yes, I'm a bad American. > > > > > > You will get NO apology from me for it. If you too are a bad > > American > > > > > > please forward this to everyone you know. We need our country > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** This email has been scanned for viruses *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. > > > > > > I like big cars, big tits, and big cigars. > > > > > > I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some > > > > > > mid-level governmental functionary democrat with a bad comb-over > who > > > > wants > > > > > > to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. > > > > > > China approaches our plane in international waters with fighter > > jets, > > > > > > crashes into it forcing us into an emergency landing, seizes our > > plane > > > > > > and > > > > > > holds our crewmen captive and then demands an apology......here's > > your > > > > > > apology China.....F--K YOU! > > > > > > I'm not in touch with my feelings and I like it that way, dammit. > > > > > > I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, > Ice-T > > > > > > or Marilyn Manson sang. > > > > > > I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer. > > > > > > I believe it's called the Boy Scouts for a reason. > > > > > > Japan uses a sneak attack on us during World War II and wreaks > havoc > > > > > > on Pearl Harbor which forces the U.S. into the war. Then we > recently > > > > > > apologized to Japan for dropping the bomb on Hiroshima which > helped > > to > > > > > > end > > > > > > the war. Here's an amendment to that apology......F--K YOU TOO! > > > > > > I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. > > > > > > I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. > > > > > > I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, you'd better do it > > in > > > > > > English. > > > > > > I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for > > > unpopular > > > > > > opinions or actions. > > > > > > I think Oprah is a big fat pig. > > > > > > I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July. > > > > > > I think that being a student doesn't give you any more > enlightenment > > > > > > than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing > > the > > > > > > bill to put your pansy ass through 4-7 years of college, you > haven't > > > > > > begun to be enlightened. > > > > > > I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite > or > > > > > > fat-free on the package. > > > > > > Hillary Clinton is a carpet-munching lesbian. > > > > > > My heroes are John Wayne, the Simpsons, and whoever canceled Dr. > > > Quinn, > > > > > > Medicine Woman. > > > > > > I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. > > > > > > I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about > it. > > > > > > I think global warming is a big lie. Where are all those experts > > now, > > > > > > when I am freezing my ass through a > > > > > > long winter? > > > > > > I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty > > years > > > in > > > > > > the desert after getting chased out of Egypt, I haven't > > > > > > burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither > have > > > you, > > > > > > so shut-the-f--k-up already. > > > > > > I want to know which church is it exactly where the Rev. Jessie > > > Jackson > > > > > > preaches. And where does he get his money. And why is he always > part > > > of > > > > > > the problem and not the solution. > > > > > > I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if > you're > > > > > > running from them. I also think they have the right to pull your > ass > > > > > > over if you are breaking the law, regardless of what color you > are. > > > > > > I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't > > want > > > > > > you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the > > > > > > world for the next four years. > > > > > > I worry about dying before I get even. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hate those bastards standing in the intersections trying to sell > > me > > > > > > crap or trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their cause. > > > These > > > > > > people should be targets. I think if you are in the passing lane, > > and > > > > > > not passing, your license should be revoked, and you should be > > forced > > > to > > > > > > ride the bus until you promise to never delay the rest of us > again. > > > > > > I think beef jerky could quite possibly be the perfect food. > > > > > > I enjoy watching high speed pursuits, the more damage the better. > > > > > > I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it > takes > > > two > > > > > > parents. > > > > > > I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please > > > don't > > > > > > pretend they are a political statement. > > > > > > I think Dr. Seuss was a genius. I'm neither angry nor > > disenfranchised, > > > > > > no matter > > > > > > how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to > believe > > > > > > otherwise. I believe if she has her lips on your d--k, it is sex, > > and > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > sex for both of you. This even applies when she is a fat pig with > > self > > > > > > esteem > > > > > > issues, and you are President of the United States. > > > > > > It means , dumbass. If > > > > > > that makes me a bad American, then yes, I'm a bad American. > > > > > > You will get NO apology from me for it. If you too are a bad > > American > > > > > > please forward this to everyone you know. We need our country > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** This email has been scanned for viruses *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. > > > > > > I like big cars, big tits, and big cigars. > > > > > > I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some > > > > > > mid-level governmental functionary democrat with a bad comb-over > who > > > > wants > > > > > > to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. > > > > > > China approaches our plane in international waters with fighter > > jets, > > > > > > crashes into it forcing us into an emergency landing, seizes our > > plane > > > > > > and > > > > > > holds our crewmen captive and then demands an apology......here's > > your > > > > > > apology China.....F--K YOU! > > > > > > I'm not in touch with my feelings and I like it that way, dammit. > > > > > > I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, > Ice-T > > > > > > or Marilyn Manson sang. > > > > > > I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer. > > > > > > I believe it's called the Boy Scouts for a reason. > > > > > > Japan uses a sneak attack on us during World War II and wreaks > havoc > > > > > > on Pearl Harbor which forces the U.S. into the war. Then we > recently > > > > > > apologized to Japan for dropping the bomb on Hiroshima which > helped > > to > > > > > > end > > > > > > the war. Here's an amendment to that apology......F--K YOU TOO! > > > > > > I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. > > > > > > I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. > > > > > > I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, you'd better do it > > in > > > > > > English. > > > > > > I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for > > > unpopular > > > > > > opinions or actions. > > > > > > I think Oprah is a big fat pig. > > > > > > I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July. > > > > > > I think that being a student doesn't give you any more > enlightenment > > > > > > than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing > > the > > > > > > bill to put your pansy ass through 4-7 years of college, you > haven't > > > > > > begun to be enlightened. > > > > > > I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite > or > > > > > > fat-free on the package. > > > > > > Hillary Clinton is a carpet-munching lesbian. > > > > > > My heroes are John Wayne, the Simpsons, and whoever canceled Dr. > > > Quinn, > > > > > > Medicine Woman. > > > > > > I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. > > > > > > I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about > it. > > > > > > I think global warming is a big lie. Where are all those experts > > now, > > > > > > when I am freezing my ass through a > > > > > > long winter? > > > > > > I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty > > years > > > in > > > > > > the desert after getting chased out of Egypt, I haven't > > > > > > burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither > have > > > you, > > > > > > so shut-the-f--k-up already. > > > > > > I want to know which church is it exactly where the Rev. Jessie > > > Jackson > > > > > > preaches. And where does he get his money. And why is he always > part > > > of > > > > > > the problem and not the solution. > > > > > > I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if > you're > > > > > > running from them. I also think they have the right to pull your > ass > > > > > > over if you are breaking the law, regardless of what color you > are. > > > > > > I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't > > want > > > > > > you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the > > > > > > world for the next four years. > > > > > > I worry about dying before I get even. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hate those bastards standing in the intersections trying to sell > > me > > > > > > crap or trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their cause. > > > These > > > > > > people should be targets. I think if you are in the passing lane, > > and > > > > > > not passing, your license should be revoked, and you should be > > forced > > > to > > > > > > ride the bus until you promise to never delay the rest of us > again. > > > > > > I think beef jerky could quite possibly be the perfect food. > > > > > > I enjoy watching high speed pursuits, the more damage the better. > > > > > > I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it > takes > > > two > > > > > > parents. > > > > > > I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please > > > don't > > > > > > pretend they are a political statement. > > > > > > I think Dr. Seuss was a genius. I'm neither angry nor > > disenfranchised, > > > > > > no matter > > > > > > how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to > believe > > > > > > otherwise. I believe if she has her lips on your d--k, it is sex, > > and > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > sex for both of you. This even applies when she is a fat pig with > > self > > > > > > esteem > > > > > > issues, and you are President of the United States. > > > > > > It means , dumbass. If > > > > > > that makes me a bad American, then yes, I'm a bad American. > > > > > > You will get NO apology from me for it. If you too are a bad > > American > > > > > > please forward this to everyone you know. We need our country > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** This email has been scanned for viruses *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. > > > > > > I like big cars, big tits, and big cigars. > > > > > > I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some > > > > > > mid-level governmental functionary democrat with a bad comb-over > who > > > > wants > > > > > > to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. > > > > > > China approaches our plane in international waters with fighter > > jets, > > > > > > crashes into it forcing us into an emergency landing, seizes our > > plane > > > > > > and > > > > > > holds our crewmen captive and then demands an apology......here's > > your > > > > > > apology China.....F--K YOU! > > > > > > I'm not in touch with my feelings and I like it that way, dammit. > > > > > > I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, > Ice-T > > > > > > or Marilyn Manson sang. > > > > > > I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer. > > > > > > I believe it's called the Boy Scouts for a reason. > > > > > > Japan uses a sneak attack on us during World War II and wreaks > havoc > > > > > > on Pearl Harbor which forces the U.S. into the war. Then we > recently > > > > > > apologized to Japan for dropping the bomb on Hiroshima which > helped > > to > > > > > > end > > > > > > the war. Here's an amendment to that apology......F--K YOU TOO! > > > > > > I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. > > > > > > I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. > > > > > > I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, you'd better do it > > in > > > > > > English. > > > > > > I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for > > > unpopular > > > > > > opinions or actions. > > > > > > I think Oprah is a big fat pig. > > > > > > I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July. > > > > > > I think that being a student doesn't give you any more > enlightenment > > > > > > than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing > > the > > > > > > bill to put your pansy ass through 4-7 years of college, you > haven't > > > > > > begun to be enlightened. > > > > > > I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite > or > > > > > > fat-free on the package. > > > > > > Hillary Clinton is a carpet-munching lesbian. > > > > > > My heroes are John Wayne, the Simpsons, and whoever canceled Dr. > > > Quinn, > > > > > > Medicine Woman. > > > > > > I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. > > > > > > I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about > it. > > > > > > I think global warming is a big lie. Where are all those experts > > now, > > > > > > when I am freezing my ass through a > > > > > > long winter? > > > > > > I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty > > years > > > in > > > > > > the desert after getting chased out of Egypt, I haven't > > > > > > burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither > have > > > you, > > > > > > so shut-the-f--k-up already. > > > > > > I want to know which church is it exactly where the Rev. Jessie > > > Jackson > > > > > > preaches. And where does he get his money. And why is he always > part > > > of > > > > > > the problem and not the solution. > > > > > > I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if > you're > > > > > > running from them. I also think they have the right to pull your > ass > > > > > > over if you are breaking the law, regardless of what color you > are. > > > > > > I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't > > want > > > > > > you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the > > > > > > world for the next four years. > > > > > > I worry about dying before I get even. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hate those bastards standing in the intersections trying to sell > > me > > > > > > crap or trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their cause. > > > These > > > > > > people should be targets. I think if you are in the passing lane, > > and > > > > > > not passing, your license should be revoked, and you should be > > forced > > > to > > > > > > ride the bus until you promise to never delay the rest of us > again. > > > > > > I think beef jerky could quite possibly be the perfect food. > > > > > > I enjoy watching high speed pursuits, the more damage the better. > > > > > > I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it > takes > > > two > > > > > > parents. > > > > > > I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please > > > don't > > > > > > pretend they are a political statement. > > > > > > I think Dr. Seuss was a genius. I'm neither angry nor > > disenfranchised, > > > > > > no matter > > > > > > how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to > believe > > > > > > otherwise. I believe if she has her lips on your d--k, it is sex, > > and > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > sex for both of you. This even applies when she is a fat pig with > > self > > > > > > esteem > > > > > > issues, and you are President of the United States. > > > > > > It means , dumbass. If > > > > > > that makes me a bad American, then yes, I'm a bad American. > > > > > > You will get NO apology from me for it. If you too are a bad > > American > > > > > > please forward this to everyone you know. We need our country > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** This email has been scanned for viruses *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. > > > > > > I like big cars, big tits, and big cigars. > > > > > > I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some > > > > > > mid-level governmental functionary democrat with a bad comb-over > who > > > > wants > > > > > > to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. > > > > > > China approaches our plane in international waters with fighter > > jets, > > > > > > crashes into it forcing us into an emergency landing, seizes our > > plane > > > > > > and > > > > > > holds our crewmen captive and then demands an apology......here's > > your > > > > > > apology China.....F--K YOU! > > > > > > I'm not in touch with my feelings and I like it that way, dammit. > > > > > > I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, > Ice-T > > > > > > or Marilyn Manson sang. > > > > > > I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer. > > > > > > I believe it's called the Boy Scouts for a reason. > > > > > > Japan uses a sneak attack on us during World War II and wreaks > havoc > > > > > > on Pearl Harbor which forces the U.S. into the war. Then we > recently > > > > > > apologized to Japan for dropping the bomb on Hiroshima which > helped > > to > > > > > > end > > > > > > the war. Here's an amendment to that apology......F--K YOU TOO! > > > > > > I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. > > > > > > I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. > > > > > > I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, you'd better do it > > in > > > > > > English. > > > > > > I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for > > > unpopular > > > > > > opinions or actions. > > > > > > I think Oprah is a big fat pig. > > > > > > I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July. > > > > > > I think that being a student doesn't give you any more > enlightenment > > > > > > than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing > > the > > > > > > bill to put your pansy ass through 4-7 years of college, you > haven't > > > > > > begun to be enlightened. > > > > > > I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite > or > > > > > > fat-free on the package. > > > > > > Hillary Clinton is a carpet-munching lesbian. > > > > > > My heroes are John Wayne, the Simpsons, and whoever canceled Dr. > > > Quinn, > > > > > > Medicine Woman. > > > > > > I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. > > > > > > I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about > it. > > > > > > I think global warming is a big lie. Where are all those experts > > now, > > > > > > when I am freezing my ass through a > > > > > > long winter? > > > > > > I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty > > years > > > in > > > > > > the desert after getting chased out of Egypt, I haven't > > > > > > burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither > have > > > you, > > > > > > so shut-the-f--k-up already. > > > > > > I want to know which church is it exactly where the Rev. Jessie > > > Jackson > > > > > > preaches. And where does he get his money. And why is he always > part > > > of > > > > > > the problem and not the solution. > > > > > > I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if > you're > > > > > > running from them. I also think they have the right to pull your > ass > > > > > > over if you are breaking the law, regardless of what color you > are. > > > > > > I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't > > want > > > > > > you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the > > > > > > world for the next four years. > > > > > > I worry about dying before I get even. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hate those bastards standing in the intersections trying to sell > > me > > > > > > crap or trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their cause. > > > These > > > > > > people should be targets. I think if you are in the passing lane, > > and > > > > > > not passing, your license should be revoked, and you should be > > forced > > > to > > > > > > ride the bus until you promise to never delay the rest of us > again. > > > > > > I think beef jerky could quite possibly be the perfect food. > > > > > > I enjoy watching high speed pursuits, the more damage the better. > > > > > > I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it > takes > > > two > > > > > > parents. > > > > > > I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please > > > don't > > > > > > pretend they are a political statement. > > > > > > I think Dr. Seuss was a genius. I'm neither angry nor > > disenfranchised, > > > > > > no matter > > > > > > how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to > believe > > > > > > otherwise. I believe if she has her lips on your d--k, it is sex, > > and > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > sex for both of you. This even applies when she is a fat pig with > > self > > > > > > esteem > > > > > > issues, and you are President of the United States. > > > > > > It means , dumbass. If > > > > > > that makes me a bad American, then yes, I'm a bad American. > > > > > > You will get NO apology from me for it. If you too are a bad > > American > > > > > > please forward this to everyone you know. We need our country > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** This email has been scanned for viruses *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. > > > > > > I like big cars, big tits, and big cigars. > > > > > > I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some > > > > > > mid-level governmental functionary democrat with a bad comb-over > who > > > > wants > > > > > > to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. > > > > > > China approaches our plane in international waters with fighter > > jets, > > > > > > crashes into it forcing us into an emergency landing, seizes our > > plane > > > > > > and > > > > > > holds our crewmen captive and then demands an apology......here's > > your > > > > > > apology China.....F--K YOU! > > > > > > I'm not in touch with my feelings and I like it that way, dammit. > > > > > > I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, > Ice-T > > > > > > or Marilyn Manson sang. > > > > > > I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer. > > > > > > I believe it's called the Boy Scouts for a reason. > > > > > > Japan uses a sneak attack on us during World War II and wreaks > havoc > > > > > > on Pearl Harbor which forces the U.S. into the war. Then we > recently > > > > > > apologized to Japan for dropping the bomb on Hiroshima which > helped > > to > > > > > > end > > > > > > the war. Here's an amendment to that apology......F--K YOU TOO! > > > > > > I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. > > > > > > I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. > > > > > > I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, you'd better do it > > in > > > > > > English. > > > > > > I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for > > > unpopular > > > > > > opinions or actions. > > > > > > I think Oprah is a big fat pig. > > > > > > I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July. > > > > > > I think that being a student doesn't give you any more > enlightenment > > > > > > than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing > > the > > > > > > bill to put your pansy ass through 4-7 years of college, you > haven't > > > > > > begun to be enlightened. > > > > > > I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite > or > > > > > > fat-free on the package. > > > > > > Hillary Clinton is a carpet-munching lesbian. > > > > > > My heroes are John Wayne, the Simpsons, and whoever canceled Dr. > > > Quinn, > > > > > > Medicine Woman. > > > > > > I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. > > > > > > I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about > it. > > > > > > I think global warming is a big lie. Where are all those experts > > now, > > > > > > when I am freezing my ass through a > > > > > > long winter? > > > > > > I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty > > years > > > in > > > > > > the desert after getting chased out of Egypt, I haven't > > > > > > burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither > have > > > you, > > > > > > so shut-the-f--k-up already. > > > > > > I want to know which church is it exactly where the Rev. Jessie > > > Jackson > > > > > > preaches. And where does he get his money. And why is he always > part > > > of > > > > > > the problem and not the solution. > > > > > > I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if > you're > > > > > > running from them. I also think they have the right to pull your > ass > > > > > > over if you are breaking the law, regardless of what color you > are. > > > > > > I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't > > want > > > > > > you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the > > > > > > world for the next four years. > > > > > > I worry about dying before I get even. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hate those bastards standing in the intersections trying to sell > > me > > > > > > crap or trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their cause. > > > These > > > > > > people should be targets. I think if you are in the passing lane, > > and > > > > > > not passing, your license should be revoked, and you should be > > forced > > > to > > > > > > ride the bus until you promise to never delay the rest of us > again. > > > > > > I think beef jerky could quite possibly be the perfect food. > > > > > > I enjoy watching high speed pursuits, the more damage the better. > > > > > > I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it > takes > > > two > > > > > > parents. > > > > > > I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please > > > don't > > > > > > pretend they are a political statement. > > > > > > I think Dr. Seuss was a genius. I'm neither angry nor > > disenfranchised, > > > > > > no matter > > > > > > how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to > believe > > > > > > otherwise. I believe if she has her lips on your d--k, it is sex, > > and > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > sex for both of you. This even applies when she is a fat pig with > > self > > > > > > esteem > > > > > > issues, and you are President of the United States. > > > > > > It means , dumbass. If > > > > > > that makes me a bad American, then yes, I'm a bad American. > > > > > > You will get NO apology from me for it. If you too are a bad > > American > > > > > > please forward this to everyone you know. We need our country > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** This email has been scanned for viruses *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: kendall
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 08:17 AM

I have no idea why this repeated the text.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: Naemanson
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 12:15 PM

Well this pretty much ate up that lunch break.

'Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?

From: Naemanson

Date: 14-Apr-01 - 08:47 AM

MAV wrote: "As far as we (American conservatives)are concerned, fascist, Marxist, Stalinist, whatever, all authoritarianism is the domain of the left."

We don't seem to be communicating. The post you referred me to is mine and while I do see the phrase "American conservatives" in it the movements you cited (fascist, Marxist, Stalinist) in that same sentence are European in origin. That is why I had to take the tack I did.

Besides, conservatism is not restricted to the USA. There are conservative movements all over the world and they all seem to have the same goals, i.e., limitation of personal freedom; acquisition of material wealth; a distrust of the media; a basic disinterest in the welfare of poor people; and a love of the military.

You say you are a libertarian flavored conservative. What I know of the libertarian ideals is limited to the interview and call in program with Maine's libertarian candidate last year. What I heard made me believe that things could be much worse than a conservative government. Maybe you would like to enlighten me as to how we would run a huge, rich country like this under libertarian principles and keep from having disease and starvation in the streets.

You are concerned that the "status quo at the moment is borderline socialism with the government attempting to become the health care industry, power producing industry, retirement security industry, education industry (mission accomplished)etc." This strikes me as another instance of either misunderstanding the goals of these programs or a disregard of history. As I said before, the social history of the US during the second half of the 19th Century and during the Great depression has shown what happens to the people when the Government takes a hands-off approach. Another example is what happened in England during the Industrial Revolution. I'm sure you don't want to see that happen again.

So what is the solution to such a dilemma. You don't want the Government to handle things and there isn't anyone else with the resources to do it. What do we do? People need health care, they need to eat, we all need energy at affordable prices, and we all need an education.

One proposal has been to privatize. I guess the theory is that the bureaucracy is expensive, wasteful, and slow. I can't argue that. But a private industry has two things that never seems to be considered. They have their own overhead expenses and they need to make a profit. I have no problem with making a profit but I believe the overhead and profit could equal the government waste. If there will be no change why change things?

And, believe it or not, private industry has their own bureaucracy and we would have to deal with. Who has not had to ask for something from a large company? When they want to be paid it is easy to contact a responsible representative. If you need them to do something for you it can be frustrating and difficult in the extreme. Trust me, I have worked with some of the largest construction firms in the US and they are sometimes as bad as the US Government that I work for.

Concerning Iran-Contra, the U.S. Congress passed the Boland Amendment in 1984 specifically outlawing the funding of the so-called Contras by any government agency. While the President has the authority to conduct foreign policy he also has to obey the law of the land and the Boland Amendment was made part of that law. The authority to conduct foreign policy does not abstract him from his responsibility to conform to the will of the people. Remember, he works for us. It didn't help that Bush Sr. collaborated in the original scandal and then engineered the cover up by pardoning the players. Those conservatives with heartburn about Clinton's pardons need to remember this one.

Oh, and two can play the game of quoting and interpreting lines from famous documents. Here is the Preamble to the Constitution:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Let's take a look at what it says The Constitution is to do.

"…form a more perfect Union…"
After The Revolution there were many instances of conflict between the states, each asserting their states rights. The Constitution was intended to end those conflicts.

"…establish Justice…"
Pretty self explanatory except that it was not intended to usurp the justice system within each state. It was intended to provide a framework for justice between the states.

"…insure domestic Tranquility…"
Once again there was a matter of conflict between the states. In one or two instance it nearly came to blows and in one instance, Shay's Rebellion, there were deaths and a true fear of warfare.

"…provide for the common defence…"
Also self explanatory. We need an army and a navy to defend ALL of the states. The militias continued unaffected.

"…promote the general Welfare…"
This could be the one on which you and I differ the most. The word welfare is defined as health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being. To my mind that pretty much requires the US Government to become the center of the social programs so hated by conservatives.

"…and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity…"
And this is the "granting" phrase. As I said before, I had nothing to do with the creation of this document or this nation. I am eternally grateful and proud to be part of it but I believe we earn the rights which are granted to us. You and I may be at odds over a mere matter of semantics. I think the idea of the people giving permission to the Government to govern them is a principle of the Libertarians isn't it? I'd like to know more about it before I go any further on this part of the discussion.

I think that pretty much covers it. I find this discussion stimulating and enjoyable. Thanks for meeting me in a like mind.

Brett

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: mousethief
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 12:19 PM

Continued HERE.

Alex

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: GUEST,Claymore
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 02:26 PM

kendal, After reading that delicious piece of work (absent the repetitions) I copied off your submission, made minor corrections, and edited it into paragraphs (hard with a stream of conscious style of writing like yours). I truely believe this is a gold mine of intellectual Kantian synthesis, and like an Artic icebreaker, forces those who infuse experience with intellect, onto one ice flow or another, as you chug by. My problem is what to do with this, as it subverts most of the intellectual sophisty that passes for wisdom in our country. Like Galileo, the Church of PC will want your retraction, or your body on the rack of relative muliculturalism. But in the ether of the net, a bright star glows, that neither the melanin-impaired, nor the hetrophobic, can extinquish. "Ab uno, disce omnes"

I light my candle from your torch, and will try to do honor to your work...

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: GUEST,Rick
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 07:57 PM

I never thought this was the big crisis all the punditcrats, et.al. thought it was. The big money invested in both Bush and China would never let it get that far.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: Troll
Date: 16 Apr 01 - 11:34 PM

Kendall. That was all right.That pretty well says it all.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: DougR
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 12:14 AM

Wow! Some of you guys sure are wordy.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: kendall
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 07:51 AM

That was not my work. Kat told me how to cut and paste, and, thought I'd try it.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: sledge
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 08:35 AM

These chinese imports that everyone is talking about back up the thread, are they the part of the "more and more imports that are coming from abroad".

:)

Sledge

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 11:38 AM

THIS THREAD IS CLOSED. Please add additional comments HERE

Alex

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: GUEST,Arne Langsetmo
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 02:57 PM

Claymore sez:

> When asked to choose the legal strategy that will ultimately determine the election, he picks one that only one lawyer out of some twenty recommends; the unconstitutionality of the recount, and lo and behold, it was the winner.

Not for any particular _legal_ reason. The outcome was determined; Dubya would be the president. They just didn't get enough people to sign on to the hokey 3 U.S.C. 5 or Article II grounds, so they had to manufacture an equal rights violation. An "equal rights" violation that was sufficient to necessitate stopping the recounts, which in fact _caused_ that exact equal rights violation: that identical votes cast in different counties were treated differently (manual counts were done in some counties, including some fourteen that had been predominantly for Dubya, resulting in a net pickup of some 180 votes for Dubya in the fourteen). The order stopping the _statewide_ counting ensured that some counties would count machine-unreadable ballots, while others would not.

> Al Gore on the other hand is depicted as swinging back and forth . . .

Only to those that _want_ to see him that way.

> . . . while becoming convinced that the Hispanic politicians in Miami are out to get him, and ends up calling them traitors.

Huh? What drugs are _you_ on?

Cheers,

-- Arne Langsetmo

Subject: RE: BS: Bush--A little credit please?
From: GUEST,fe
Date: 04 Apr 02 - 05:48 AM

he appears to be doing grand job at moment his internatinoal statesmanship not been parralleled since WWII