BS: Extreme prejudice and friends

Subject: RE: BS: Extreme prejudice and friends
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jun 01 - 08:48 PM

That Voltaire quote first seems to have cropped up in 1907, Voltaire having died in 1778. I think there's some question as to whether he would actually have agreed with the sentiments.

I can't remember who said that the right to exercise free speech shouldn't include the right to shout "Fire" in a crowded theatre.

Subject: RE: BS: Extreme prejudice and friends
From: 8_Pints
Date: 22 Jun 01 - 08:40 AM

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." verbatim as reported on the Qutations Homepage : http://www.geocities.com/~spanoudi/quote.html

Bob vG

Subject: RE: BS: Extreme prejudice and friends
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Jun 01 - 11:31 AM

I think institutional racism is getting worse. Some time ago I filled in an application for a job. Part of the process was to fill in details about sexual preferences, colour, creed, disabilities etc. They said this was because they operated an equal opportunities policy. I wrote straight across it that if they applied true equality non of those questions would matter.

Needless to say I didn't get the job. I think I was glad!

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Extreme prejudice and friends
From: 8_Pints
Date: 22 Jun 01 - 01:08 PM

Was it Tom Lehrer who included the line in his song about the American Army as one that "not only discriminated on the grounds of race, creed and colour ... but also ability!"

I think Dave, you must have come under the last category!

*BG*

Bob vG

Subject: RE: BS: Extreme prejudice and friends
From: M.Ted
Date: 22 Jun 01 - 01:09 PM

It is actually illegal to ask any of those questions hereabouts, DtG--and imprudent too, since any person who is qualified for a job and is passed over, after having answered those questions, has grounds for a law suit--

Subject: RE: BS: Extreme prejudice and friends
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jun 01 - 01:20 PM

Dave the gnome - HOORAY FOR YOU! You are dead right...that is institutionalized racism masquerading as "equal opportunity". It is anything but equal, if you don't happen to be in one of the favoured categories (and we all know what they are...).

A society that actually gave a damn about people on an equal basis would ensure that everyone who wanted and needed a job had one...at a decent level of pay...as long as they showed up and did the job to at least an adequate level of performance. (Star Trek Next Generation) Ditto for access to higher education.

No more poverty. No more ghettos. No more homelessness.

That's democratic socialism, folks.

Go ahead and say it's not possible. It is. And it is NOT Communism!

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Extreme prejudice and friends
From: DougR
Date: 23 Jun 01 - 01:57 AM

Dream on LH. :>) DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Extreme prejudice and friends
From: InOBU
Date: 23 Jun 01 - 08:50 AM

Wel, DougR, LH may be dreaming, but if we don't so something to change the basic exchange ritual of society, which is costing us all more waist than production, well, this tired old world wont support life anymore, so if we don't start working with the dreamers, all this is just going to have been a bad dream.
Cheers, Larry
PS this is drifting towards the global warming thread!

Subject: RE: BS: Extreme prejudice and friends
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jun 01 - 01:07 PM

That's right, Larry. I know all my dreams won't be realized before I depart this world, but that will not stop me from dreaming.

I regard our present competitive money and war-based system as an aberration, worthy of cave men, not real human beings.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Extreme prejudice and friends
From: InOBU
Date: 23 Jun 01 - 04:54 PM

Hey check out the global warming thread, LH, I am trying to organise the first Geordi sweat lodge, want in? Larry