BS: How do you Convince a Moron...

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Mickey191
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 04:32 PM

Dear Hearts, Apology accepted & I never said I felt badly about anything. As a matter of fact, I'm feeling rather chipper. I just shaved!

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 05:02 PM

Why don't lesbians in any movie I've ever seen have hairy armpits?

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 05:11 PM

Does that mean that you were lazy? They do say that the things that bug us in others are those we can't stand in ourselves...

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Mickey191
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 05:52 PM

Jeeze Ebby, What side of the bed did you get out of-Another humorous aside. You must be alot of fun to hang with.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST,Martin gibson
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 05:54 PM

Who is "they"? I've been trying to figure out who "they" is for years.

The things that bug me about others are absolutely things I don't do.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 05:57 PM

There is no "They" there, Martin -- it's all you!!

A

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 07:26 PM

I give up.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 07:28 PM

PLease don't Eb!!

Projection is a very true working principle, but that doesn't mean everyone is able to notice it happening.

A

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 07:45 PM

I've been wodering but refraining from comment on the same ponderable Martin: Things that are "sexy" do tend to get a lot of attention from the cameras. The market for the hairy armpit genre does not seem to be a major, driving economic force.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: jimmyt
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 08:43 PM

_So then Armpit Hair= lazy, and anything other than liberal =moron? Mickey, I am having trouble seeing that you are a liberal in your thought process. Seems that you are as narrow minded as those that you catagorically call morons. Can you say "Compromise?" Seems that most of the people fall in to the middle ground if you really really care to find out what their belief systems are.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Mickey191
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 09:02 PM

5 hours & 43 minutes have made a complete change in you jimmyt. What's the brand you use-Gallo or Sandyman Port? Or perhaps you forgot to take your meds. Take care. The next time you ask will be number 5. Have a nap, honey.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: jimmyt
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 09:20 PM

mickey. I have had 2 glasses of wine this evening. Santa Marghareta Pinot Grigio. Nice wine. My head is clear. I am not going to lower myself to throwing insults at you. I merely ask you if you feel that your name calling is in any remote way going to ever convince anyone to take a better look at your views?

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 09:23 PM

A bit of general advice: If you approach anyone in such a way that they realize you think that they are a moron, you clearly have no interest in a conversation. Or conversion. It doesn't make any difference whether it is religion politics or baseball. When you approach anyone on any topic in a way that is condescending, they will not hear you... and shouldn't even waste their time listening to you.

When it comes to treating people with respect, it's ALL oranges.

I happen to think that George W. is the most destructive force we have had in the Presidency in my lifetime. I desire as much as anyone to lead people to see what he is doing to this country.

Treating people like morons isn't a particularly effective (or appealing) approach.

I think you're nuts if you vote for George W next time around, jimmyt, but I'm with you. A measured discourse is the only way forward!

If you want people to listen to you, you have to listen to them, too..

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 09:42 PM

Let me amend that statement, jimmy... I think you are a true gentleman and of above average intelligence, and I have a great respect for you as a person even if I DO think you are nuts if you vote for Bush again. :-)

You're still my man, jimmyt

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: jimmyt
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 09:44 PM

thanks Jerry. YOu are a fine man..................hairy armpits and all!

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Wolfgang
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 02:11 PM

I came to this thread meaning to post something like If you want to convince someone you first must get his attention. You'll surely get it by starting 'Listen to me, you moron' and then to go on with a sarcastic rant.

But Jerry Rasmussen has said the same idea without any sarcasm and so much nicer. Well done. Much better than my aborted approach.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 02:44 PM

He might have said it nicer and with less sarcasm, but it wasn't as fucking entertaining.

If "they" is all me, how ya doin' everybody!

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Mickey191
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 02:56 PM

You fellows have made a wrong assumption. You seriously believe that I'd talk down or treat someone like a moron-even if they were a card carrying, dues paying, member of The Moron club. No I have not nor would I. I quite well understand there is no gain in doing that. One presents his case & if it falls on deaf ears, so be it.

jimmyt, five posts with the same questions is a bit redundent. In your apology at 3:00 you blamed it on the wine. I accepted said apology, then you started again. You opened the door Dear Heart.

Now if you will permit me, I shall fold my tent & be off. Two words I shall never utter again in this lifetime: Moron & armpits.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: jimmyt
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 03:43 PM

mickey, if you will re-read, I made no such apology at 3o'clock. I was referring to your actions, and that if I had done something so insulting as you had done, I would apologise. I am sorry if my syntax confused you. Hope you are not leaving on my accord. After all, I am a card carrying member.

In all seriousness, though, people,(not directed to Mickey 191 as for whatever reason, she doesn't seem to get my point or care) I am a Republican largely, but I would never call any of you stupid just because of a belief system you have. Even if we may disagree, isn't it better to discuss issues without name calling?

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Ebbie
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 04:38 PM

"Two words I shall never utter again in this lifetime: Moron & armpits. " Mickey, that is very funny. Come to think of it, the words are probably avoidable.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: jimmyt
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 04:41 PM

I guess you could substitute Idiot and Axilla

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 06:12 PM

Dogs have furry leg pits

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 07:10 PM

Hmmmm...reminds me of the time (long gone) when "Little Moron" jokes were all the rage:

Question: How did the little moron shave his armpits?

Answer: With a chainsaw. Now he can't shave at all.

And so on, and so on... There were hundreds of 'em. I just made up the one you see above, but it's fairly typical of the genre. The "little moron" was always male for some reason...just like most of the regular characters in comics at that time. It was a moron's world, I guess. :-)

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Ebbie
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 08:28 PM

A crew of morons is building a house. The foreman comes along. He asks: Why are you throwing away half the nails?? Because, says the worker, the heads are on the wrong end. You moron! says the foreman. They're for the other side of the house.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: Sam L
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 08:57 PM

Thanks Jimmyt, tho I only said what you've said all along, in my own imitable way.

I didn't mean to assume what was being looked for in the way of short and convincing arguments, but this repetitive admonishment isn't a bad idea, since it's very easy to get frustrated with people you disagree strongly with. Well, I tried.

Peg it's lovely that you used to be an exotic dancer--many people get stuck at that, meaning to move on to something else, but not getting around to it. My sister wanted to, and it would've helped at the time, but she was a little scared she might lose the momentum to do other things, because of the money.

I think of myself as a red-blooded American male, but I still shave everywhere just to stay busy.

   The lesbians in movies are fake lesbians. Why don't we let people tell us what's sexy and beautiful? Customers--people are such customers. It's not so offensive to be perfectly conventional in one's tastes and opinions, it's just obvious, and not very noteworthy. Nothing terribly wrong with it, but why expect anyone to find it of any interest? For weird people I suppose it's a fun project to be "normal" but for normal people there's little interest in the exercise. They aready have the Encyclopedia Of Received Ideas gathering dust on the bookshelf.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST,Guest bob UK
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 09:25 PM

ask Martin Gibson as he as obviously been convinced that the good old USA is every bit as good as Hollywood says it is I'm not pro Bush. Nor am I a Republican, a liberal. I am a moderate American with an open mind. But I don't claim to have all of the answers either. Nor do I relate to calling people with different politics morons just to start conversations.

"To the ones who don't live in this country who bad mouth it, please kiss my ass on the corner State & Madison. I wouldn't trade it here for anything. Especially for a country with women with hairy armpits. I'm glad that I am raising my children here."

Thats why Americans have a hard time of it abroad and if They bring the same level of sensitivity to the world stage is it suprising the rest of the world see America as a nation led by a moron

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: jimmyt
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 10:36 PM

Is State and Madison in Chicago?

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: *daylia*
Date: 04 Dec 03 - 11:36 AM

Okay, just have to add on to some points made above re body hair...

Obviously, hairy armpits are there for a reason, on either sex. The hair holds the phenomes (fancy word for personal stink ... sorry, that's "scent") longer than plain ole skin, thus attracting more potential mates to oneself. Certain other (more southerly) hairy areas serve the same purpose.

Please note -- this stroke of Creator's biological genius works best in places like Blind River, where mate selection is notoriously limited, and even the waterways are blind.   

Remember, the Bible says that your power grows in your hair. Samson and Delilah make that point quite well. So, why should your scalp be more powerful than your armpits?

Take a tip from our brothers and sisters, the snakes. How lowly and deprived they are, slithering around hairless, even armpit-less, in the dirt! Now you may prefer to smell like a snake rather than a human, but would you wanna look more like them? I thought NOT!

Point made!!

Now, where'd I put that Lady Schick ....

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 04 Dec 03 - 12:37 PM

Bein a moron is bad. Bein a less-on is worse! Yuk! Yuk! My idiot brother Don is a less-on, cos I am more "on" the ball than he is, know what I mean?

Just ab0ut everything works best in Blind River, Daylia.

As far as girls, well, I guess I like the smooth look best for armpits on them girls but I aint all that particullar about it on a slow day, eh? As long as she aint a spot-counter, shes' okay with me.

- BDiBR

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST,Nigel (hard at work!)
Date: 04 Dec 03 - 01:45 PM

Of course Terry Pratchett's use of a yokel member of the City Watch with the name "Carrot" was lost on me until Radio 4 did a version of the tale. Carrot was given a distinct Welsh accent. And the Welsh for Carrot is ?..... Moron

Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: *daylia*
Date: 04 Dec 03 - 02:18 PM

BDiBR, YOU a mor-on!? YOU have a "slow day"?? Ha! Ha ha HA!! Smooth as a snake, you are ... hey, "carrot" IS more like it!

Thanks, Nigel!

Take it from me BDiBR, ya gotta get mor-on in the armpit hair dept for sure if you wanna standa chance against them WAsTEDinWAwa pheromones! Maybe try chasing them glow-in-the-dark Blind River meese around the sparkling snow-frosted clear-cuts a bit longer too ... ;-)

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 05 Dec 03 - 10:35 AM

Guest Bob U.K.

Not Hollywood, but my own life's experience. Don't hurry back to America if you have a problem with it. No one is forcing you to live in the U.K are they? Whether you like Bush or not, 50% voted him in. I didn't vote for him, but I will be here to vote against him again and you probably won't.

Yes, the corner of State & Madison is ground zero in downtown Chicago for the one who asked.

Subject: RE: BS: How do you Convince a Moron...
From: GUEST,Bonzo the Third
Date: 05 Dec 03 - 10:44 AM

Anywhere in Chicago is ground zero. Believe me on this. I wouldn't go there again if I was offered all the bananas in Costa Rica.