BS: Foreign-Farce Football

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign-Farce Football
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 14 May 09 - 09:44 AM

It's a Northumbrian thing, Terry - but only part of an increasingly diverse British identity. Though going HERE I notice to my delight that even though I now live in windswept wilds of the Lancastrian Fylde, back in 800 this was part of Northumbria too...

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign-Farce Football
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 14 May 09 - 10:50 AM

I knew that, of course, but am always perplexed as to why people in some parts of the country like to deny a long established geo-political 'fact.' I suspect its to wash their hands of what they believe to be English misdemeanors in the past. In other words, I'm not English, I'm (insert pseudo nationality), so don't plame me, guv.

But let's not pursue it - I don't want to be accused of thread drift..........

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign-Farce Football
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 15 May 09 - 03:34 AM

Geo-political facts are forever mutable, Terry. For instance, I'm rather proud of the fact of my Northumbrian birth as back in 1961 North Shields was indeed part of Northumberland, rather than North Tyneside or wherever it is these days. As an Irish-Northumbrian-Jew brought up with closer links to Scotland (as is invariably the case in Northumberland) I've never been too sold on the idea of Englishness, let alone WAV's entirely idiosyncratic take on it. His (self-published) message is one of rank & ill-informed stupidity that bears no relation to the reality which he steadfastly refuses to acknowledge, persisting as he does with his dangerously racist beliefs. Stuff like this:

English culture is taking a hammering and, when people lose their own culture, society suffers.

and...

England was a more English place 50 years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign-Farce Football
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 May 09 - 06:18 AM

I keep questioning economic-immigration, capitalism, etc., S. But I never knock any particular culture or race - not even light-heartedly - as you have done on Mudcat, by repeatedly referring to a recorder made in Japan as an "Engrish Frute" (back when you were Sedayne, I think).

And this is the very message I just emailed to my local ITV and BBC news:

"Instead of having 'experts' question Newcastle United, please please question the SYSTEM: not that long ago it was mostly-locals in MEANINGFUL competition; nowadays it is a greedy meaningless free-market foreign-farce that MUST be regulated."

Subject: RE: BS: Foreign-Farce Football
From: GUEST,Sedayne (Astray)
Date: 25 May 09 - 02:15 PM

WAV - get a life.