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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Oct 11 - 04:01 PM gnu, That was a little bit of sarcastic satire....come on, now, grab another cup of coffee. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: gnu Date: 04 Oct 11 - 06:25 PM Really? Cause I felt like telling you to retract those or fuck off you ignorant piece of shit. My mistake. Sorry about that. >;-) Notice the happy wink face. That makes it ALLLL better eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Oct 11 - 07:00 PM Fire an arrow over the battlements, and another one comes right back. It can go on almost forever. A year later no one can even remember why. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 04 Oct 11 - 08:32 PM Yes, LH, the Repubs have long been 100% about gaining power and little else... We agree on that... The difference here is that with a "black president" they have unleashed the old hatred of blacks by their right winged flank, i.e., the Tea Party... Of course the Tea Party scream racism when they are confronted... That is so ridiculousness... Be like justifying a lynching because they thought the black guy they were hanging was a racist??? Totally stupid argument... BTW, sorry, GFinS, but I no longer read your posts... You have become the worst of Old Guy/Dickey/Sawz and the comment about my cat showed just how far you have dropped in terms of being a f'n human being... So, bye to you... Go hang with the other righties, past and present... BTW, I wouldn't let you carry Beardedbruces's jock strap... He has class... You don't... Now back to Wall Street... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 04 Oct 11 - 08:40 PM ...or Obama... Or whatever/whoever the right hates today... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Don Firth Date: 04 Oct 11 - 09:01 PM I'm with you, Bobert. Nothing to learn from that source. #### ". . . the racist, bigots and slur-bitches!" Jayzuz! Look who's talking!! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Oct 11 - 09:42 PM THANK YOU! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Oct 11 - 11:04 PM Bobert: "...BTW, I wouldn't let you carry Beardedbruces's jock strap... He has class... You don't... Now back to Wall Street... B~" As usual, you are confused....this is the, "I voted for Obama, but..." thread...not the, "Wall Street Protesters..." thread. It is both with relief, and gratitude the you and Don won't be reading my posts...Don usually misquotes them back to me, and distorts them, anyway!! ..and you are more hung up in party politics, to the point where you'd throw the country under the bus, rather than admit, that the Democratic party has been corrupted, and fucked up...even with the likes of Pelosi's bullshit, Reid, and yes, that front man for the globalist bankers, Obama. The ONLY good thing about him is that he is black...oh, and half white, too.(Ooops, there goes the 'racist' argument!).......maybe I disliked the 'white' side.....no, the black side...no, the white side...no....the crappy, phony president side! ...(I thought the Democrats DIDN'T like Wall Street, big business and the bankers...how come you like this guy who is their front man puppet?).. ....So, take this opportunity to duck out....the two of you have been getting slaughtered anyway. Learning something, and building up on it would have been a better option...but to tell you the truth, I was getting pretty tired of dealing with such stubborn silliness! THANK YOU! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 04 Oct 11 - 11:13 PM Mental illness, GfinS... My last post to you... Bye B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 04 Oct 11 - 11:27 PM Jeez! How many 'last posts' are you going to have???? Grinning and waving.... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: akenaton Date: 05 Oct 11 - 11:51 AM What is the average age of a mudcat poster?...50...55? Anyone from the real world reading this would think you were still in playschool. In Scotland, we have an old saying "Keep the heid", meaning dont lose control...dont indulge in temper tantrums its pointless and makes you look immature, I never lose my temper online and very rarely offline, but if I do, I make sure its worth the hassle......no posing please! |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 05 Oct 11 - 12:54 PM Ake, I'm not 'angry' in the least.....maybe a little disappointed in those, that with overwhelming evidence to support the FACTUAL, there are so many in here who just hold onto a fantasy of leftist's myths!..and its somewhat a shame, because some of them have become as these . GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Stringsinger Date: 05 Oct 11 - 01:32 PM The problem, I think, is that the job of president is so awesome (in the huge sense) that anyone who undertakes it finds themselves on a cliff of insecurity. I can see that it would be natural for Obama to run to those who he has familiarity with, the Harvard academics, the Bush teams who would give him continuity, and the obvious death threats he must have received by white bigots. He is probably fearful of bringing in people who the GOP would attack brutally such as Stiglitz, Krugman, Reich and those who really have a handle on our economic predicament. Unfortunately the only change that we can hope for under his administration is the change in the pocket of Wall Street. He relies on it for his campaign money and won't go against it. That's up to us to do that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 05 Oct 11 - 02:05 PM Strings: "Unfortunately the only change that we can hope for under his administration is the change in the pocket of Wall Street. He relies on it for his campaign money and won't go against it. That's up to us to do that." Well, we ARE supposed to be a government FOR and BY the PEOPLE. wouldn't it be nice if our elected 'representatives' would display SOME integrity? They don't HAVE to be susceptible to being so corrupted, wouldn't you agree? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 05 Oct 11 - 07:26 PM Well, Strings, in the words of George W, "Being president is hard..." Of course, this was George W... Everything is hard for him... But your observation that Obama finds himself in a trick bag is 100% accurate... We all learned with the Dixie Chicks just how much of BIG MEDIA is owned by Republicans and just how quickly they can strike... Obama hasn't gotten much help from the progressives but hopefully that will change with the Occupy Wall Street movement will give him some cover... Face it, the progressive movement has been blackballed for the last 34 years but maybe that is about to change... It took hundreds of thousands of Egyptians to bust up the right winged ballgame there and it may very well take that many to break up the Wall Street ballgame... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Oct 11 - 07:29 PM Being president is a wretchedly hard job. Makes you wonder who would want it? And why? But I guess some people are just born to take on such a role in life. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 05 Oct 11 - 07:56 PM Yeah, LH, seems only a masochist would want the job... I wouldn't have the job if they up and gave it to me... No thanks... Plus, where's a president gonna go to cop a little weed??? No where... You can't just walk up to Capitol Hill and knock on yer friend's door and catch you a buzz 'n a bag... Might of fact, you can't do squat... You're like a prisoner... Forget it... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Oct 11 - 10:39 PM My feelings exactly! I'd refuse the job in a heartbeat...if some fool were unwise enough to offer it to me in the first place. ;-) That's why I can't figure out why Chongo's after it. Sometimes I think he might be a few cookies short of a load. Of course...he's always been attracted to high risk situations and long odds... |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 05 Oct 11 - 10:45 PM Chongz is mentally ill... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Oct 11 - 10:53 PM Others have said that too. Chongo is not impressed by such opinions. He says, "At the end of the day only there's only ONE opinion that counts, and that one belongs to the ape in the glass. Ya who that is? Me. When I got a tough question that needs answerin', I consult the ape in the glass and he never lets me down." He might make a pretty effective president after all with that kind of moxie. I figure he will either end up on Mount Rushmore...or in front of a firing squad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 05 Oct 11 - 11:30 PM ..or both..judging from the way this country is, these days! gfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Oct 11 - 01:33 PM Well, yes....both is also a possibility. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Songwronger Date: 06 Oct 11 - 11:49 PM And the Obama wars go on. And Obama says he's against the bankers while he accepts their donations and funnels money to them. I look each day for news of a primary challenger, but there's nothing. Some mention of Hillary once in a while, but the country's had enough of the Clintons and the Bushes and that lot. Sure a demoralizing time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 06 Oct 11 - 11:50 PM Dead on, Songwronger! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Oct 11 - 12:50 PM The normal political game seems to be "Tell the public whatever will make them feel good...or scare them into compliance...whichever works...but DO exactly what your rich backers have told you to do and be a good, obedient boy till your time in office expires. What you tell the public and what you do for your rich backers are two VERY different things, and if the public fully understood what was happening there'd by a revolution." Now, the fact is, it's pretty much always been that way in politics in most times and places, but certainly not to the incredible extremes we've seen in the last few decades. The level of corruption of both government and mass media has increased to the point of sheer Orwellian lunacy, and the middle class is being wiped out by it. Voting won't get us out of this, because the political parties are controlled by Big Money. Some other kind of action has to be taken. I hope that it will be peaceful action. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 07 Oct 11 - 07:19 PM Well, voting Repub certainly won't... BIG MEDIA is owned by them... BIG MEDIA exerted pressure to pack the FCC with Republicans who have done every thing in their power to accommodate Republicans who now control 99% of BIG MEDIA... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,999 Date: 07 Oct 11 - 07:22 PM ". . . and the middle class is being wiped out by it." You use the present continuous. The past would be more appropriate, imo. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Oct 11 - 01:44 AM Well, yeah, I guess... |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Songwronger Date: 16 Oct 11 - 08:18 PM An attack by a US unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) has killed at least 78 people and injured 64 others in southern Somalia, Press TV reports. The Friday attack took place near Qooqani town located in southern Somalia, a Press TV correspondent reported. In a different incident on Friday, another US drone attack killed 11 civilians and wounded 34 more in Hoosingow district in the south of the country. http://www.presstv.ir/detail/204501.html High fives in the White House. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Greg F. Date: 16 Oct 11 - 09:00 PM Gotta love them drones, dontcha? The ones with two legs, too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Songwronger Date: 16 Oct 11 - 09:05 PM http://primaryobamanow.com/ A new website. I voted for Kucinich. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 17 Oct 11 - 09:30 AM "I voted for Obama, but..." the Republicans have (and are now) pig-headedly and self-servingly made it almost impossible for him to get much done on the things he told us he would try to accomplish. And in the relatively few cases where he was able to carry the day despite their determined obstructionist foot-dragging, such as in the health system legislation, they have (and are now) continued to attempt to kill the effectiveness, even though the majority of the US population approve of the individual planks. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Oct 11 - 08:10 PM And you think it wasn't planned that way? What if those 2 parties are just placed there as a "good cop/bad cop" device to lull the electorate into the very false impression that one of them might prove to be your saviour? Why wouldn't they be there for that purpose, considering that they are BOTH funded by a consortium of major corporate entities who are intent on increasing their own profits...at the expense of the general public. The Democrats are playing the "good cop". They make like they'll treat you "nice", (while setting you up for a big disappointment). This appeals to the people who vote Democratic, because it seems hopeful. It's a dream of achieving progressive change...a dream that is NOT realized when the Democrats get elected. The Republicans are the "bad cop". They make like they'll get REALLY TOUGH with criminals, terrorists, illegal immigrants, pedophiles, and other boogeymen that a large part of the public is scared of and harbors deep hatred for. This appeals to the people who vote Republican. It sells well in a country that grew up on John Wayne/Clint Eastwood stereotypical heroes and outright worship of the art of WAR. At its heart it's a dream of preserving old traditional values and the traditional white, small-town North American culture...a dream that is NOT realized when the Republicans get elected. They play you back and forth endlessly between the good cop and the bad cop. When one wears out his welcome, the other one gets voted in. Either way, you lose, they win. The game goes on. The only way to beat them is to abandon that particular game, in my opinion. Stop believing in those 2 cops. They don't work for you. They can't work for you. It's not what they were paid to do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 18 Oct 11 - 12:00 PM Little Hawk, I do believe that you are unduly cynical about the views, positions, and actions of the two major parties. Note that I don't say that your view is TOTALLY false. There are elements which sometimes tempt one to wryly suspect something like that. But as to "They are BOTH funded by a consortium of major corporate entities who are intent on increasing their own profits...at the expense of the general public," the term "a consortium" claims or at least implies a far greater cohesiveness and organization of big businesses than it's realistic to believe in. And if such a consortium exists, that the contribution therefrom is all or the GREAT majority of the funding of both parties. And that statement claims or at least implies that each of the parties is far more organized and cohesive than they are, as shown by their statements, actions, and a realistic view of human actions and motivations. And the "good cop/bad cop" equally assumes a conspiracy between the major parties. Only a confirmed conspiracy-demander could buy that. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Little Hawk Date: 18 Oct 11 - 01:45 PM I don't know how well-organized it is. I'm sure there is a good deal of infighting and competition between the major players. Still, I think they they all share certain broad-ranging interests in common and that is why they tend to agree on basic policy such as: ***de-regulating banks to allow the easy creation of vast amounts of phony money*** ***protecting specific industries such as the corn-growing industry or the oil industry... ***extending the power of the pharmaceutical industry and regulating many of its natural health competitors out of existence... I'm saying that they basically agree on a general approach which favors the very rich...and the very LARGE...and enables them to grow even richer....at the expense of their small competitors. It favors large corporate entities, it squeezes out small business. I don't call that a "conspiracy". I call it a philosophy. An attitude. A way of conducting business. A self-feeding process where the largest players promote any legislation that protects the LARGE and shuts out the small. Since the major funders have common interests in maintaining that way of conducting business, and since it benefits all of them to a considerable extent, they influence both parties to support and maintain such an approach through legislation. Thus we have seen de-regulation of the banking system since the Ronald Reagan era, and that de-regulation has grossly inflated the money supply and bankrupted the society. This was a disaster for most people, but it has not been a disaster for the very wealthy. They have done exceedingly well and increased their earnings by a large margin. Again, I don't call that a "conspiracy"...I call it a philosophy, a set of beliefs, a way of doing business. When you have a situation where words like "liberal" and "socialism" have been demonized to the extent that people in the USA are afraid of them, you have a society dominated by a Far Right corporate philosophical mindbent that perpetuates those policies I'm alluding to. Were the Nazis a conspiracy? No. They were a political philosophy in action...a tragically unhealthy and misdirected political philosophy. That's what I see guiding the 2 parties in the USA...a tragically unhealthy and misdirected political philosophy, one based primarily on making the most money for those few at the top, one that has resulted in fiscal irresponsibility on a grand scale, and both parties have been complicit in serving that political philosophy, because they are both being funded by it. For gosh sakes, you don't HAVE a real Left in the USA any longer. There hasn't been a real Left in the USA since the end of the 1960s. What you have is 2 rightwing parties, one that is rabidly rightwing, one that is tepidly rightwing, both of them serving the banking system and the major corporations and the military...both of them engaging in unjust foreign wars fought on the basis of outright lies....both of them forging an overseas empire through military occupation and client regimes. What do I call that? I call it Fascism. That's what you have in the USA...a 2-party fascist system that is still vainly imagining itself to be "a democracy"...when all it does is choose one or the other wing of the same Eagle of War at 2 to 4 year intervals. The face of the "leader" changes (like changing a mask), but the Eagle of War flies on. You put your hopes always on the new "leader", but those hopes are in vain. He's just an errand boy, in my opinion. He is not the power, he's the outer face you see...the mask placed in front of the real power. The real power is not one man....it's an imperial philosophy that moves many men, and they are rich men, and they find many willing soldiers among the poor to do their bidding, just as rich men have always done. The rich can hire the poor. They can arm them. They can point them at "the enemy" (the other poor). It has been happening that way for thousands of years. Its epicenter moves around, of course. Once it was in Rome. Once it was in London. Once it was in Madrid. Once it was in Berlin. Once it was in Paris. Now it's in New York and Washington (and London still, I expect). |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Songwronger Date: 24 Oct 11 - 08:42 PM OBAMA MURDERS 16-YEAR OLD AMERICAN BOY: The United States has now killed three of its citizens in Yemen in the past month as a result of unmanned aerial strikes carried out by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Following the deaths in late September of Anwar al-Awlaki, the U.S.-born cleric, and Samir Khan, an al-Qaeda propagandist from North Carolina, an American drone strike on October 14 killed Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, the 16-year-old son of the cleric. At the time, the U.S. government led the media to believe that Abdulrahman was at least 21 years old. The al-Awlaki family released to the media a copy of Abdulrahman's birth certificate, which shows he was born in Denver, Colorado, in 1995, to disprove the Obama administration's assertion that he was a twenty-something militant. Relatives claim the son was killed while "barbecuing under the moonlight" with other teenagers, including his 17-year-old cousin, who was a Yemeni citizen. Back on November 5, 2002, a CIA drone strike in Yemen killed another American citizen, Buffalo-born Kamal Derwish, because he was traveling in the same vehicle as the intended target, Abu Ali al-Harithi, a Yemeni accused of being part of the October 12, 2000, attack on the USS Cole. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2164005 |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 24 Oct 11 - 08:48 PM Another member of the ObamaHateBrigade steps forward... Has Sawz written all over him/her/trans/etc... (yawn) B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Songwronger Date: 24 Oct 11 - 08:59 PM So, you have to love a guy who kills teenagers? |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 24 Oct 11 - 09:03 PM Tin foil mythology... Your guy killed upwards of a million innocent Iraqis... Join the real world... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Songwronger Date: 24 Oct 11 - 09:11 PM Actually, Obama is the guy I voted for, as in "I voted for Obama, but..." So why did he kill a 16-year old American in Yemen, and then lie about the kid's age? I'm sure he had a good reason I just haven't heard about yet. Why'd he do it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,999 Date: 24 Oct 11 - 09:51 PM The post that started this joyous thread: "Subject: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Songwronger Date: 27 Sep 11 - 06:53 PM I don't like his warmongering. Why the hell is he bombing Yemen? And why did he say he didn't need congressional approval to bomb Libya? I hated Bush's baseless wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and Obama's continued those and begun even more." |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bill D Date: 24 Oct 11 - 09:51 PM **He** didn't kill anyone! In armed conflicts and military activities since the beginning of recorded history there are always casualties among the general category of 'innocent bystander'. This is not a desirable result, but it is inevitable when adversaries are near military targets...and the most evil try to avoid retribution by BEING near the 'innocent', hoping we softies will not target them! This is essentially how bin Laden escaped the first time. SOME leaders of nations and of military units have **intentionally** targeted innocents as part of 'ethnic cleansing' and other weak motivation, but the USA has drastically reduced "collateral damage" in recent years by technology such AS drones. It is verbal balderdash to try to label anyone in Obama's position as a 'killer'....as if he KNEW there was a 16 year old who was likely to be hit and planned FOR such a death. Death in war is sad, regrettable, tragic, terrible...and as many other adjectives as you can imagine.... but so is shrugging when those whose avowed purpose is to kill US are running loose! |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 24 Oct 11 - 10:09 PM Thank you, Bill... I doubt seriously id the wrongerman voted for Obama... Sounds like just another very partisan died-in-the-wool Republican Obama hater who thinks that everyone is stupid and will believe his right wing BS if he prefaces it with "I am a Democrat but" or "I voted for Obama but"... Very tiresome lie... I've read this line of attack by Obama haters everywhere on the internet and its BS... I mean, it's okay to have voted for him, like I did, and then criticize an aspect of his policies but to go into the "I voted for..." right into tin foil is a stretch for anyone with an IQ greater than that of a box of animal crackers... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,livelylass Date: 25 Oct 11 - 10:37 AM Something for those frustrated by Obama (offered without comment !): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji2ma2mfyhU&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLA57CB565A33D6845 |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bill D Date: 25 Oct 11 - 11:11 AM I really, really DO wish those who offer YouTube 'help', without even bothering to make a clickable link, would at least give a general idea of WHAT I am expected to see and how long it is. ¾ of all this sort of thing are either silly or one-sided propaganda. If it is really informative, tell me what it is about! Right now, Obama needs support, because the Republicans are doing everything in their power to demonize him! So help me, if he walked on water, they would accuse him on one hand of "showing off" and on the other of "being afraid to get his feet wet"! Even if you wonder & worry about the exact tone, methods, timing and progress his administration is making, do remember that he KNOWS what people are saying, and has access to way more data & expert help than most of us sideline kibitzers. Just yesterday he ratcheted up the pressure on the Republican members of Congress by promising to take unilateral action (thru presidential proclamation) to deal with issues they refuse to address. Sure... go on and speculate about what YOU think needs to be done, but keep in mind that if Obama does not get enough real support for relection, you will get one of **those** Republicans now making stupid statements and acting like born-again clowns! |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 25 Oct 11 - 01:22 PM There is one thing, Bill, that the Republican Party is good at and that is winning/stealing elections... They think that is their only goal... They certainly don't know anything about governing... Or economics... Or science... Or, or, or... But they sho nuff use their ownership of BIG MEDIA and their massive corporate $$$$ advantage to win/steal elections... Gotta give the crooks credit for something... BTW, in South Carolina the Repubs have successfully removed 70,000 older black voters from being able to vote??? These folks crime??? Being born into poor black families at home... Yup, now that's a prime example of just how the Republicans win/steal elections... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Stringsinger Date: 25 Oct 11 - 01:50 PM The big mistake you can make is to put your trust in leaders. We are all leaders and that's what the Occupy Wall Street movement is proving. We are witnessing an American Spring and those who are nay-saying about it, please get out of the way. The more the police abuse, the stronger the movement grows. Remember that those leaders who we put in office work for us. Don't expect Obama or anyone else to do the job. Get out and occupy! We saw the spin that the mayor's office and the media put on our occupy Atlanta. The barriers are coming up now in the park, the portapotties have been removed, the "kettle" is starting to close. Occupy Atlanta |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 25 Oct 11 - 05:55 PM Agreed! These so-called "leaders" like Obama are empty suits. If he gets replaced by a Republican, that's just another damn empty suit. Be yer own leaders, people, cos the guys in the suits are not servin' YOU at all...they are servin' their main funding sources...and the military-industrial complex. They build bombs and cruise missiles while Main Street dies and yer cities decay. They don't give one banana about yer future. - Chongo |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 25 Oct 11 - 06:13 PM Agreed, Strings... The Occupy Charlotte movement is doing the same thing with consensus building around issues but it's all done democratically... And if you don't agree, you have an opportunity to argue your opposition position... "This is what democracy looks like" for those who might have missed how it works... That's what bugs the righties... They don't like what OWS stands for and they hate democracy, to boot... The weird thing is that even though the Paul people are still very much a minority they not only feel welcome but are welcome and seem to be part of the movement... That's cool with me... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: I voted for Obama, but... From: Bobert Date: 25 Oct 11 - 07:18 PM BTW, 200... B~ |