Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Sep 16 - 02:42 AM

I don't see why you can't cruise round your hood
in a pimped up boy racer [or evens a sensible pensioners economy vehicle] with massive sub bass ICE sound system in the boot
blasting out your favourite folk tracks at top volume...???

You've got enough savings aintcha....

I'd opt for massed marching bag pipes & battle drums... 🙄

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: Will Fly
Date: 08 Sep 16 - 03:37 AM

I note with some amusement, Bonzo, that your favourite blues guitarists seem to be white boys from London who played the music at second-hand. So much for all those black guys who originally produced the music, eh?

Much as I loved Peter Green's playing (in his heyday) how could he have made the music without people like - for example - Muddy Waters, Buddy Guy, and even Chuck Berry. The Brit blues guitarists may have rejuvenated the music in its homeland in the 1960s - as Buddy Guy himself has said on many occasions - but the fount of that music is firmly within the southern states of black America.

And all of this without mentioning giants like Broonzy, Johnson, Patton, Jefferson, Lewis, Davis, McGhee, Blake, etc., etc., etc.

Do get a grip.

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Sep 16 - 03:38 AM

The reason Bozo's posts remain is that they strike a chord with redneck shit kickers, some of whom moderate this thread from a distant "land."

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: GUEST,In good company
Date: 08 Sep 16 - 04:32 AM

come to "diverse, multicultural" Croydon and you will hear exactly what I mean!!!

I used to live in genuinely "diverse multi-cultural" (with or without the quotes) Salford. I now live near and work in even more diverse multi-cultural Bradford. I have enjoyed myself immensely on occasions in Moss Side, Brixton and many other places at sessions in pubs that have been culturally diverse since the 1960s. I have still never found myself referring to music I am not keen on as "The hideous music inflicted on us by black people"

Hideous music is perpetrated by all sorts of people everywhere and not all music played and enjoyed by black people is hideous. While blacking up may not be racist, stereotyping black people as having poor musical tastes certainly is.

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 08 Sep 16 - 05:28 AM

Anyone wanting to check the research on blackface morris should read Teresa Buckland's article "Black faces, garlands, and coconuts" (Dance Research Journal, Vol. 22, No. 2, Autumn, 1990) or the section on morris dance in Roy Palmer's "The folklore of Shropshire". There can be little doubt that the Lancashire coconut dancing and the border morris traditions were influenced by blackface minstrelsy. Alternative explanations (disguise, warding off evil spirits, miners) tend to be assertions made in more modern times, of the "it may be the case that" variety, with no evidence from contemporary accounts of dancers to back them up.

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 08 Sep 16 - 05:52 AM

My ears tell me what I like to hear. I don't care where music originated, purely from an electric guitar viewpoint, to my ears, apart from Clapton during his stints with the Bluesbreakers and early Cream, nobody has ever got near to Peter Green's blues technique during his Bluesbreakers/early Fleetwood Mac period.

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: Will Fly
Date: 08 Sep 16 - 06:17 AM

Oh well, there you go. It's always instructive to see a person with such a fully-formed and completely closed mind.

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: GUEST,pauperback
Date: 08 Sep 16 - 07:24 AM

Some guys here remind me of a experience i had online round the turn of the century...Soul-patrol, a group of aging souls soulsingers who complained how awful Rap was. I only blundered in a few months before I decided to enlighten them on how Rap gave young people solace today the same as Soul did for you once. They ran me off.

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Sep 16 - 07:49 AM

It's so sad that even well educated elder pillars [..pillocks..???] of society see life in such closed minded black and white..

..when according to a popularly acclaimed 21st Century writer,
there are 50 shades of grey......???? 😜






.. honestly everybody, we're not blacking up... it's just a very dark shade of grey...

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 08 Sep 16 - 09:25 AM

Well a certain young mixed race person of my acquaintance seems to delight in listening to Holst's Planet Suite...

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Sep 16 - 12:03 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 14 Sep 16 - 06:27 AM

At the end of the day, when it's all summed up, it's been great publicity

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 14 Sep 16 - 06:34 AM

Here's a Recap

Subject: RE: Shrewsbury FF to ban 'blacked up' Morris
From: The Sandman
Date: 14 Sep 16 - 01:21 PM

Yes, I am suspect that is their motive, Shrewsbury is in my opinion an example of an aspect of a changing folk scene, I suspect but cannot prove that their primary purpose is commercialism,Shrewsbury is in my opinion primarily about bums on seats and possibly/PROBABLY about making loads of money.
Obviously any festival organiser has to cover costs, but if the principal aim is to make lots of money, it means[ in my experience] for "loads of money to be made" a dilution away from the roots of the music, that is not something I think is a good thing.
Have the organisers of this Festival contributed any of their profits to Anti Racism funds, if they have and can prove they have, I take back my comments, if not I wish they would desist