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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Charley Noble Date: 27 Oct 08 - 09:05 AM Welcome aboard, Sen. Pressler! Fare-ye-well, Rig! Give our regards to the sharks! Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Amos Date: 27 Oct 08 - 09:44 AM Alas, poor Rignslinger. I knew him Horatio. A fellow of infinite sarcasm, of most jaded fancy. He hath bored me through with barbed and barbatric thinking, a thousand times, and now how abhorr'd in my imagination it is! My gorge rises at it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: CarolC Date: 27 Oct 08 - 09:51 AM I don't think this is the time to gloat. McCain has been closing the gap a bit in the last few days. I think this is the time to volunteer ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 27 Oct 08 - 09:53 AM As Joe Hill might have said "Don't gloat,organize"... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Riginslinger Date: 27 Oct 08 - 10:08 AM "McCain is going to lose this election. Whose fault is it? MCCAIN'S." Actually, it's George Soros'! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Big Mick Date: 27 Oct 08 - 10:34 AM McCain, I believe, will lose this election. But to blame it on McCain, Soros, or any other single issue/person is naieve. He will lose it as much because of Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich as any other reason. They are the ones who sowed the seeds of the crop that is being reaped in front of our eyes. Folks in the USA might still be spouting silly cliche's in their political dialogue, but they have woken up to the failed economics of the trickle down era and its successors. They may still mouth the silly whisper campaign generated drivel, but they are finally wising up to the fact that they have been voting against their own best interests. And they are seeing that the old "work hard and get ahead" crap was merely a feint to get you to look other places while the money lords got you to finance them, and transfer your wealth to them, through the use of over financing of credit debt. I saw an interesting stat on one of the morning shows today. It indicated that up until the recent past, Americans were saving an average of $10.00 out of every $100.00. Today that number is about 60 cents out of every $100.00. At one point a few years back it was actually a negative number. Now you can lay that off to irresponsibility on the part of the general population if you are looking for neat little answers. Or you can use your brain and look at it rationally, in which case you will understand that there was a massive push to take advantage of folks, get their money, and it led us to this moment. Yeah, McCain will lose IMO, and it will be largely due to his embracing old and discredited policies, being out of touch with where folks are really at, a lousy choice as his VP (probably his largest error), stacking his campaign with folks that have an agenda (Rove-ites, lobbyists, etc). There will be plenty of blame to go around. One last thing. For those who are Obama supporters, or who have hope that this young man will save us, be aware that the day after the election (presuming Obama is elected), the largest assault you have ever seen will begin on him. It will make the assault on the character and credibility of Bill Clinton seem like an episode from Mr. Roger's Neighborhood. I believe Obama has all the tools needed to effectuate the types of changes necessary, but only if the rabid supporters continue their activism after the campaign is over. You may rest assurred that the dark forces are already planning their strategies to neuter this young man and reclaim control of the money system. These will be revolutionary times, and the stakes are nothing less than the future of your children and grandchildren. We must have a mandate in order to do the things that must be done. We must change the makeup of the Congress, and get the types of majorities necessary to allow this man to lead effectively. Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Riginslinger Date: 27 Oct 08 - 11:04 AM "He will lose it as much because of Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich as any other reason..." I would say more because of Reagan than anything else. He's the one who started the country towards financial ruin in the first place. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 27 Oct 08 - 11:27 AM He [McCain] will lose it as much because of Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich as any other reason. I was a straight-ticket Republican for thirty-six years. But then came the Gingrich years, with their tricky, ruthless, meanness. I went back to my roots. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Amos Date: 27 Oct 08 - 11:30 AM Rig: I think that was the smartest thing you've said on this site. Mick: Well said. I hope Obama and Axelrod's brilliant organizing skills will extend to post-election deflection of the kind of attacks you predict (I am afraid quite accurately). Otherwise the ducks will nibble and tanglefoot him to a standstill. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Wesley S Date: 27 Oct 08 - 11:30 AM "the day after the election (presuming Obama is elected), the largest assault you have ever seen will begin on him. It will make the assault on the character and credibility of Bill Clinton seem like an episode from Mr. Roger's Neighborhood. " Sad but true Mick. I was thinking the same thing as I was coming back from rehearsal the other night and listening to the "Savage Nation" radio show. The unadulterated hatred that's out there for Obama by some of these AM radio yahoos will be a big hurtle indeed. It's not going to subside after the election. It will just get worse. The Clinton years will seem like a walk in the park. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: GUEST,heric Date: 27 Oct 08 - 11:37 AM I prefer to envision them coming along kicking and screaming. Come along, now. Nobody's gonna get hurt. But you're probably right. The unpleasant noise will probably be like an incessant jackhammer when you're trying to work. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Riginslinger Date: 27 Oct 08 - 12:03 PM I think those of us who are skeptical critics will at least allow him to do something wrong first. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Wesley S Date: 27 Oct 08 - 12:59 PM In that case you'll have no trouble finding it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: kendall Date: 27 Oct 08 - 04:51 PM Just sending Obama to the White House is not enough. We need a big majority in Congress. Otherwise, it's just more gridlock. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: DougR Date: 27 Oct 08 - 05:06 PM Right, Mick, and according to your VP candidate, Obama is going to be challenged by a major terrorist event designed to test Obama's mettle. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Amos Date: 27 Oct 08 - 05:08 PM Those were not his words, IIRC, DOug. But I expect if Obama gets tested he'll pass. He's shown over and over he has resolve and the will to face whatever comes up. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Bobert Date: 27 Oct 08 - 05:10 PM Mick is right.... McCain has run a very negative campaign and has really pissed off his base who will even even more pissed off if McCain loses... That's a bad thing but because of the manner in which McCain has run his campaign is going to happen no matter who wins... It almost as if McCain is purposely sabatoging the next administartion... That says something about how confident he can possibly be of winning... He has ensured that there are going to be a lot of pissed of people either way... Probably more so than even after the 2000 electtion... But, with that said, I do believe that there isn't a better candidate than Obama as someone who just might be able to bring the storm under some level of control... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: DougR Date: 27 Oct 08 - 05:10 PM Rig: see Amos' post at 11;30AM, 27 Oct. There is an excellent lesson in that post. If you seek the approval of a liberal, all you have to do is post something he/she agrees with. Simple. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Amos Date: 27 Oct 08 - 05:19 PM Or at least, if you want his approval, post something he approves of. And you say this as if it is a revelation??? I also give approval when people intelligently and articulately state something I don't agree with, if they can show me why they believe it. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 27 Oct 08 - 05:23 PM Doesn't that apply to everyone, Doug? And so it should - if someone whom we have regarded as an opponent says something we agree with it's only right to welcome that. Why, it's in the Gospels: "There is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Big Mick Date: 27 Oct 08 - 06:34 PM Doug, don't be smug. Biden simply stated the obvious. It is no different than when JFK came into office. You folks always talk about Biden's comment, but you always leave out the last part where Biden said that Obama has steel in his spine and will pass any test put out there. Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Bill D Date: 27 Oct 08 - 06:53 PM But...short **SLOGANS** are always easier to sell! Of course they leave out all the relevant parts! "He'll spread "He 'works closely' with terrorists" "His running mate SAYS he will be tested!" "He has no experience!" etc... ad nauseum |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Riginslinger Date: 27 Oct 08 - 06:58 PM I agree, he has so many slimey associations, it looks like they'd use something more damaging. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Amos Date: 27 Oct 08 - 07:15 PM Rig: I suspect John McCain's slimy-associates list is twice as long as Barack's. After all, he 's been in Washington much longer! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: heric Date: 27 Oct 08 - 07:20 PM I suppose y'all have seen the news about the two skinhead kids and their plot. Maybe I shouldn't have taken this animosity thing so lightly. I must say, however, that I apparently live in a very sheltered world. All this stuff sounds so foreign to me. I can't relate to it at all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Riginslinger Date: 27 Oct 08 - 07:48 PM Once they round up all the skinheads, they can go after the Aryan Brotherhood, and the Neo-Nazi's, and the KKK, and World Church of the Creator, and... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: PoppaGator Date: 27 Oct 08 - 10:22 PM "He will lose it as much because of Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich as any other reason..." I would say more because of Reagan than anything else. He's the one who started the country towards financial ruin in the first place. I don't give Reagan that much credit. This whole generation-long scenario was put into motion by Richard Nixon, inventor/creator of the Repubican party's "Southern Strategy." Make a conscious appeal to the fears and prejudices of underpaid white people ~ and persuade them to support you while you make sure they remain underpaid. Reagan was merely the product of that strategy's growing success through the 1970s. I believe he himself was a person seduced by a process that was already in place, who became a true believer, and whose communication skills and obvious sincerity made him a near-perfect figurehead, enabling his brain-trust (i.e., controllers) to firmly establish more power than ever before and really kick-start the process of redistributing wealth upwards. I don't think of Reagan as the "mastermind" of anything. He was never much more than "Only a Pawn in Their Game." It was Nixon who was the original evil genius. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Amos Date: 27 Oct 08 - 10:26 PM ANd who trained him? Henry Kissinger? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Ebbie Date: 27 Oct 08 - 11:00 PM "As I was saying to Henry..." Sarah Palin lol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Colin Powell supports Obama From: Riginslinger Date: 28 Oct 08 - 07:10 AM PappaG - I would agree that Reagan was just a pawn in the game, but he was the face his handlers put on "supply-side economics" and bringing superstition into government. Nixon imposed wage and price controls, so I think it started after him. |
