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Sweeps Rochester UK

growler 11 Apr 07 - 05:14 PM
melodeonboy 11 Apr 07 - 06:33 PM
Richard Bridge 11 Apr 07 - 07:08 PM
Richard Bridge 11 Apr 07 - 07:10 PM
Girl Friday 11 Apr 07 - 08:55 PM
melodeonboy 11 Apr 07 - 09:06 PM
Richard Bridge 12 Apr 07 - 02:35 AM
Essex Girl 12 Apr 07 - 09:20 AM
melodeonboy 12 Apr 07 - 09:34 AM
Richard Bridge 12 Apr 07 - 09:38 AM
The Barden of England 13 Apr 07 - 03:29 AM
melodeonboy 13 Apr 07 - 11:25 AM
growler 13 Apr 07 - 03:49 PM
Richard Bridge 13 Apr 07 - 06:52 PM
Liz the Squeak 14 Apr 07 - 01:27 AM
growler 14 Apr 07 - 05:28 PM
Richard Bridge 14 Apr 07 - 05:41 PM
growler 15 Apr 07 - 04:41 PM
Girl Friday 15 Apr 07 - 05:00 PM
GUEST,bunnyb 28 Apr 07 - 03:57 PM
Richard Bridge 28 Apr 07 - 07:34 PM
melodeonboy 28 Apr 07 - 08:10 PM
Soldier boy 29 Apr 07 - 05:33 PM
melodeonboy 29 Apr 07 - 05:49 PM
GUEST,Growler 30 Apr 07 - 04:57 AM
Black Diamond 30 Apr 07 - 05:43 AM
melodeonboy 30 Apr 07 - 09:04 AM
Richard Bridge 30 Apr 07 - 09:04 AM
Girl Friday 30 Apr 07 - 09:18 AM
growler 30 Apr 07 - 06:13 PM
Richard Bridge 30 Apr 07 - 06:17 PM
The Barden of England 30 Apr 07 - 06:43 PM
Dave Earl 30 Apr 07 - 07:13 PM
growler 02 May 07 - 03:52 PM
GUEST,Alexis no cookie 02 May 07 - 04:02 PM
Richard Bridge 02 May 07 - 04:17 PM
growler 02 May 07 - 05:07 PM
melodeonboy 02 May 07 - 05:14 PM
Richard Bridge 02 May 07 - 05:48 PM
Black Diamond 03 May 07 - 08:27 AM
Richard Bridge 03 May 07 - 08:58 AM
Black Diamond 03 May 07 - 09:40 AM
Richard Bridge 03 May 07 - 03:56 PM
growler 03 May 07 - 04:35 PM
Black Diamond 04 May 07 - 07:11 AM
Richard Bridge 04 May 07 - 09:37 AM
Black Diamond 04 May 07 - 09:52 AM
growler 04 May 07 - 05:16 PM
growler 06 May 07 - 06:02 PM
Richard Bridge 06 May 07 - 08:16 PM
DMcG 07 May 07 - 01:55 AM
growler 07 May 07 - 02:13 PM
GUEST,Camper 07 May 07 - 05:07 PM
The Barden of England 07 May 07 - 05:22 PM
Richard Bridge 07 May 07 - 07:21 PM
GUEST,woodsie 08 May 07 - 04:03 AM
Essex Girl 08 May 07 - 05:07 AM
GUEST,Kim 08 May 07 - 10:34 AM
Richard Bridge 08 May 07 - 10:57 AM
Dead Horse 08 May 07 - 12:40 PM
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growler 08 May 07 - 04:08 PM
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Subject: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 11 Apr 07 - 05:14 PM

One has to wonder, why The Good Intent is off the map again. After last year, people found it difficult to find us, as we were placed in the wrong place on the leaflet.This year they have done even better, on the edge of the map, there is an arrow, marked 'Good Intent', pointing to nowhere.
John Barden's session is ,in the opinion of many locals, one of the best,in the festival. So can someone in Medway Council please tell people where it is


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: melodeonboy
Date: 11 Apr 07 - 06:33 PM

Quite right, Growler. As Medway Council won't tell you where it is, perhaps I should. It's in John Street, and is roughly 5 minutes' walk from the Star Hill end of the High Street. For multimaps users, the postcode is ME1 1YL.

If you manage to get there, not only will you have a great time, but you will also be supporting the one pub in Rochester that is really making a terrific effort to support and promote live music in general and folk and Morris in particular.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Apr 07 - 07:08 PM

Wot, no live (folk-ish) music in the Two Brewers, the Man of Kent, the Barge?...


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Apr 07 - 07:10 PM

PS. Or the wossname just over Rochester Bridge into Strood - Prince of Wales or thingy?


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Girl Friday
Date: 11 Apr 07 - 08:55 PM

Medway Council obviously want to keep us in the High Street. After all, that is where they are, so nowhere else exists does it? One good side to this is that only those of us in the know will bother, and we can let others in on it selecively. After all we do not want the Medway Yobs finding it, do we?


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: melodeonboy
Date: 11 Apr 07 - 09:06 PM

Mmmm... Yes, Richard. I stand at least partially corrected.

Re the Man of Kent and the Two Brewers: both pubs deserve credit for supporting live music. And a shufti at the Man of Kent website informs me that they too are supporting both folk and Morris performers.

The Barge and the Prince of Wales also deserve credit although neither of them is actually in Rochester.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 02:35 AM

Girl Friday, the Good Intent is in Troytown - largely peopled by said yobs (some of whom possess unlicensed djembes)!


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Essex Girl
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 09:20 AM

The sessions in the Good Intent ARE the best, but I gather that there will be something going on in The Man of Kent, which is the nearest pub to the Good Intent, and there should be a good chorus session in the Gordon on Sunday lunchtime when Hartley Singers are there between 12.30 & 2.30pm


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: melodeonboy
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 09:34 AM

The Hartley Singers should be worth seeing/listening to/joining in with. I saw them quite by chance some 10/15 years ago at the Joiner's Arms in West Malling. It would be an exaggeration to say they raised the roof, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the roof tiles hadn't dropped off that evening.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 09:38 AM

Keep an eye out for the garden gnome with long pockets....


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: The Barden of England
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 03:29 AM

I really shouldn't be advertising another venue, but 'The Man of Kent' is going to have an up and coming young (cough) duo - isn't that right Growler and melodeonoy? Another band well worth seeing are 'Zoox' who are there on the Sunday of the festival.
Of course, I hope to see as many people in 'The Good Intent' as possible and will try and let as many people as I know where it is. It does get you away from the crowds in the High Street every now and then.
John Barden


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: melodeonboy
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 11:25 AM

Much as I dislike self-promotion of any kind (shurely shome mishtake - Ed.), the exciting new young* folk duo, Rough 'n' Ready, are not, as yet, booked to play at the Man of Kent (watch this space), but we are playing at Yalding Farmers' Market at 10 a.m. on 21st April, the Good intent at 9 p.m. on St. George's Day and I believe we are doing a set during the singaround session at the Good Intent on the Sunday during Sweeps (at about three o'clock).

Now if I were to give you full details of Jumbo Gumbo playing at the King's Head and the Gordon Hotel on the Saturday during Sweeps, that really would be self-promotion, so I shan't!

You'll certainly see me at your session at the Good Intent, John, as soon as we've finished at the King's Head. As I've mentioned many times before, your session is one of the highlights of the festival.

* Well, we are young compared to Rochester Bridge!


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 03:49 PM

I wish to disasotiate myself from the previous self promoting speaker, ( or I would if I could spell it


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 06:52 PM

Ah, Rochester Bridge, my young cousin....


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 01:27 AM

I saw Rochester Bridge last month... if that's your young cousin, your real name must be Methuselah - or do you have a portrait in the attic and a rakish past we don't know about?

LTS


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 05:28 PM

Rakish past will do


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 05:41 PM

I wish. You are confusing me with my late significant other, Jacqui. Now she had a really really rakish past. You would be surprised at some of the names.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 04:41 PM

The way she played the guitar, I doubt it


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Girl Friday
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 05:00 PM

Richard Bridge said...largely peopled by said yobs (some of whom possess unlicensed djembes)!

I know to what he is referring, but can handle a few drunks in pubs... so can Dal ! I find the beer seeking. beer swilling, can in hand yobs that sway down the High Street at night in herds very formidable. I remember when there was an overnight fatality outside the Vic and Bull. Glad I have Trevor with me now. We can finish up in the Gordon.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: GUEST,bunnyb
Date: 28 Apr 07 - 03:57 PM

The Gordon - A good place to finish in !!


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 Apr 07 - 07:34 PM

For those who want a bit of electric (electric what?) one night over Sweeps, the Chosen Few, a stonking pub-rock R&B (in the 60s sense of the expression) will be playing in the Carpenters Arms at the top of Star Hill one of the nights during Sweeps. They have recently been joined by Kris Dollimore (ex Del Amitri, Ex the Stranglers) and although there is illness in his family he should be there for at least one set that night. He also plays solo, and his solo set sounds like what I imagine Robert Johnson would have sounded like today if he were of this time. Check KD out and consider this a possible change from the crap electric westry and c**ntron bands that will be in many of the high street pubs.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: melodeonboy
Date: 28 Apr 07 - 08:10 PM

Well, if you finish up in the Gordon on Saturday night, you'll be able to see the double cajun/zydeco concert: The Dawgs (cajun) followed by J**bo G**bo (zydeco). (I can't give the full name or else I'll be accused of shameless self publicity!)


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Soldier boy
Date: 29 Apr 07 - 05:33 PM

I've always headed for 'The Man of kent' for sheer atmosphere and brilliant range of real ales.
But I'll also look out for 'The Good Intent' thanks to postings here.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: melodeonboy
Date: 29 Apr 07 - 05:49 PM

And the great thing is that the two pubs are only about 200 yards apart!


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: GUEST,Growler
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 04:57 AM

And two hundred yards from the Station


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Black Diamond
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 05:43 AM

Hi melodeonboy that sounds great - we love Cajun/Zydeco
we are coming to Rochester for the sweeps for the first time ever, being from norf of Watford Gap its quite a ways to come.
we hope to catch the morris, join a lunch session at The Good Intent, and round it off with your tempting offer - what more can u ask
can you tell me where The Gordon is??? ta nicely
Lin


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: melodeonboy
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 09:04 AM

It's in Rochester High Street, a stone's throw from the cathedral and right in the heart of the activities.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 09:04 AM

It's in the middle of Rochester High Street, opposite the cathedral, and marked on the handouts. Parking is a bathmat!


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Girl Friday
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 09:18 AM

Ah, but the bathmat of parking is compensated for by the beer and the music in the marquee that fills their carpark. You can park for free in Strood Council Car Park and stroll across Richard's ancient cousin, Rochester Bridge. Fresh air, exercise, and endless conversation with other folkies!


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 06:13 PM

I don't know how anybody can accuse Melodeonboy of self-publicity, I would be beating a trail to Richard's door, and taking the bastards to court, I would, of course be a witness for defence


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 06:17 PM

You can, of course, if you are a pedant, also park free in Strood, and walk etc.

Eats, shoots, and leaves.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: The Barden of England
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 06:43 PM

There are other places to park, but not if you want your nice alloy wheels to still be there when you return to it!!
John Barden


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Dave Earl
Date: 30 Apr 07 - 07:13 PM

Afraid I won't be there again this year (work and all that).

Was that a sigh of relief I heard ?

However herself and her mother will be in attendance. you have been warned :-)

Dave


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 02 May 07 - 03:52 PM

To save kevin self publisising, I can tell you the 'Ruff and Reddy' are playing at The Good Intent at 3.00pm on Sunday


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: GUEST,Alexis no cookie
Date: 02 May 07 - 04:02 PM

From memory, is the Good Intent in a housing estate type area with a funny gate as an entrance?
I shall be definately frequenting Man of Kent and I very much suspect the Good Intent over the weekend. Seem to remember, on a visitation to Wolfs Head's Ale Cart conpetition (current holder of the trophy) we (Slubbing Billy's) went to Upper Odnor(?) and had a grand time. Obviously southern ale prices (How much???) and southern heads (isn't that a short measure mister??) withstanding.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 May 07 - 04:17 PM

Upper Upnor. Other bank of the river. Upnor castle visible from Chatham Maritime.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 02 May 07 - 05:07 PM

It will be lovely to see you


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: melodeonboy
Date: 02 May 07 - 05:14 PM

Yes, Alexis, that's the one; your memory's not that bad! In my experience (which I deem substantial in such matters), the beer there is reasonably priced, well kept, and you get a full pint. If you want a sample before you choose, they'll usually do that for you as well.

Self-publicist - moi?


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 May 07 - 05:48 PM

It's all right, Kevin (how's the shirt?), you weren't seeing double, there is more than one pub in Upper Upnor. Dilligaf usually works in one, so perhaps you were seeing double after all.....


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Black Diamond
Date: 03 May 07 - 08:27 AM

thanks for the directions to the pubs one and all
now, can anyone tell me where that Council car park is in Strood??? I am looking at a MAP as I speak -- emmmm   write .....
Lin


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 May 07 - 08:58 AM

If you are about to cross the Medway from Strood to Rochester, it is behind the town hall, peering over the river at ROchester Castle, but you can't get there from there(!).

To get to it, go round the Strood one-way system, and start back on yourself away fromthe river, turn left at the traffic lights opposite MacDonalds, turn left again as if you are going to B+Q's carpark, and then head straight for the river. Just before you fall in you will be behind the town hall in the carpark, and you can either walk through an alleyway into Strood High Street, or skirt the townhall to the east, along the banks of the river (smelly at low tide).


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Black Diamond
Date: 03 May 07 - 09:40 AM

thanks Richard
dont worry if I fall in --- I can swim -- but your description of smelly at low tide makes one wonder if one should !!!!
Lin


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 May 07 - 03:56 PM

The mud in the Medway is wholly unswimmable. The water is suspect too. There is a school of thought that the Medway was Pratchett's inspiration for the sludge in the middle of Ankh-Morpork.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 03 May 07 - 04:35 PM

There is also the Cathederal Pricinct.Drive in from St Margerets Street and turn right at the Coopers Arms.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Black Diamond
Date: 04 May 07 - 07:11 AM

are the street signs in English, or in "suvven" (southern speak)
after all I am from norf of Watford Gap
alright ... Im going now .... LOL


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 May 07 - 09:37 AM

In Strood they are in estuarine, so, if puzzled, just grunt back. Rochester speaks the Queen's English, and indeed some residents say they have been caretakers since the restoration and that therefore she speaks theirs. This is mainly true of the area just south of the cathedral, and, of course, the King's School itself.

If you get as far as Chatham, by misfortune, jingle chav jewellery (Wampum) and barter.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Black Diamond
Date: 04 May 07 - 09:52 AM

right Im off to London now see yous all tomorrer


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 04 May 07 - 05:16 PM

Further to Richard, if you do reach Chatham, only jingle the cheap stuff


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 06 May 07 - 06:02 PM

Met some great people this weekend, Richard Bridge came up with a bigger death toll in a song than anybody else (suprise) Some great sessions with John Barden and Gastove and the newest boyband in Kent ( Ruff and Reddy ), Saw TDL in the High Street, but didn't hear them sing,( to our detriment ), No Worries are back, all in all, a splended Weekend


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 May 07 - 08:16 PM

Monday is yet to go!

Joe Stead has a great song about people dying of fever on a slave ship, must learn it!

TDL played the Good Intent tonight.

The Good Intent lost.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: DMcG
Date: 07 May 07 - 01:55 AM

I was enjoying the session with John Barden, Richard, and (I assume) growler, but had to leave it very early as my daughter was unwell. Apologies to everyone there.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 07 May 07 - 02:13 PM

Lunch time at The Good Intent, TDL did a song about the demise of the British car industry, it was bloody great. I write this, as I book myself in for rehab. Wibble Wibble !!!


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: GUEST,Camper
Date: 07 May 07 - 05:07 PM

THe Good Intent was good, as intended! But it wasn't so good in tents, brrrr!


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: The Barden of England
Date: 07 May 07 - 05:22 PM

It was great fun. Thank you all for coming and making it such a magic weekend. It's so good to see so many people, some for the first time, and others old acquaintances. It was all of you who made it so good, and made my input so easy. And a big, BIG thank you to Karen & Dal for making us so welcome, and for staying up so late. I'm off to catch up with some much needed sleep.
John Barden


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 May 07 - 07:21 PM

It was however regrettable to note that the humpties and diddlers who were unable to have their session in the Vic&Bull were less than gracious in response to their welcome from JB at his songsession, and set up in their own ghetto in the pub garden.

John runs a good mixed session, where all get their turn, whether they be singers or others, and the defection of this crew indicates that they were not content but demanded the right to take over the song session to which they had come.

The unjustified tirade that John suffered (until others stepped in) on Sunday evening was not only itself unmannerly, but also betrayed (by its "its true what they say" invective) that ingrates had been systematically running John down as they sat by the garden fireside, objected to having to take turns, wanted it all their own way, and had (even more disappointingly) not been shushed by any wiser heads in their group.

These latter things (not just the tirade itself) profoundly annoyed my daughter and will tend to militate against her further enjoyment of "folk sessions": a shame since she herself is such a spectacular performer and one of the two or three in total of performers present under 25. Such poor social behaviour is a factor tending to dissuade her from re-attending sessions.

Other such factors, perhaps relevant to other threads here, include navel-gazing snigger snogwriters, amplification (ie "open mic"), the absence of folk song, and lecherous old men who although they are unable to intimidate her may intimidate others. There was a bad example on one night (not, I think, a Cat member), who was fawning over a particularly contemporary singer, and making a fool of himself persisting in trying to kiss reluctant young(ish) women. Oddly, I remember her mother being critical of one or two very respected figures of the 60s and 70s folkocracy who allegedly were more (and equally unsuccessfully) interested in her nether regions than in her voce or guitar work. These were not limited to primary supporters of fatlib.

Thanks to John Barden for running some very good times. A shame that Doug Hudson would not give us a song. Joe Stead made a splendid example of the greats joining in with us.

Next year might we have: -

1. Folk music booked in the pubs, not Americana and rock and roll.
2. An accurate programme: for example the Rainham club session in the Gordon was not programmed, and hosts of sinagrounds were wrongly identified.
3. More support for the singaround an workshops in the Corn Exchange bar (Lucy Randall's percussion workshop was informative if a bit overcentred on Irish music for an English festival, and it would have been better still had the bar been open).
4. An accurate and complete map of venues in the programme
5. Information in the programme on bands booked into pubs that would let the punter know what sort of stuff they played - I tried every pub and venue on Sunday afternoon (after 2.30) and found no folk at all apart from the unprogrammed bands at the Good Intent.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: GUEST,woodsie
Date: 08 May 07 - 04:03 AM

I got the train to Rochester on Saturday was feeling quite tired as I had only an hour or so sleep after the night shift. I got there at about 2.30 pm and headed toward the High Street. Morris dancers, there were hundreds of them. Wonderful colours everywhere. I spotted Richard Bridge playing his plugged in mandolin to accompany some clog dancers, I tried to catch his eye without interrupting him but he seemed to engrossed in the spirit of the dance, so I carried on down the street. There were a bunch of blokes in red and white wearing fezzes doing a weird dance/ritual that seemed to be attracting a large crowd I caught the end of some really spaced out dance is it spinning dervish or something? There were lots of fantastic costumes, people with strange hats and feathers some with blackened faces. It was areal carnival atmosphere - much better than that shit that goes on a Notting Hill every year! As I turned the next corner I came upon a stage with PA and everything! Ty and Aisha, two greatpeople that I know from Orpington Folk club, were performing they are really good. They were followed by that great Kentish band Pig's Ear, who sang and played some real English folk songs. Great stuff. I went into a pub at the end of the High Street - Expectations I think it might have been called. There was some nutter playing over amplified guitar and alto sax along to a backing track. Flash bastard! Nothing to do with The ambiance of the Sweeps, in fact his crappy, badly played pop music, which blasted through the wide open pub doors into the street, had obviously ruined the day for the poor morris team who had the bad luck to draw the pitch outside!

Anyway as I wandered back up the high street I bumped into several of the Greenwich lot including my old mate Alex Gorham. Then, feeling a bit knackered I made my way to that wonderful pub in John Street "The Good Intent" where to my surprise I found several folkmob people, in fact there were so many it seemed like it could be a rehearsal for Knockholt. Sue & Mick Forde, Mr & Mrs Mike Porter,Annie & Fay,Richard Phipps,George, Jim Radford, Dave Kenningham, Linda Essex. Plus the great John Barden, Melodeon Boy, Growler, Richard Bridge and a few more whose names escape me. It was a great session, there again with that crowd how could it be anything else!

The only downer of the day was that I missed Tone Deaf Leopard. They had gone off to see Sid Kipper in concert.

I will be booking a hotel room for the weekend next year.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Essex Girl
Date: 08 May 07 - 05:07 AM

Thanks John for a great day on Saturday. Think I beat my record for staying in one pub all day. (The previous was several years ago in the Eagle at Sweeps) Sorry I couldn't make it to the Good Intent on Sunday. I managed to hear Hartley at the Gordon but we didn't have the energy to push my grandsons wheel chair up the hill.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK 2007
From: GUEST,Kim
Date: 08 May 07 - 10:34 AM

I've only just discovered this thread - BEFORE the Sweeps would have been good - and I don't even know what forum it's part of yet; I'll have a wander later.

Richard, I thoroughly enjoyed the one song I heard your daughter perform, and indeed remarked to my neighbour that I wished I could sing so powerfully. I would be interested to hear her view on the Monday lunchtime session; it didn't escape my notice that 95% of us were twice her age. But not boring old farts I hope!

John, I only get to attend one event per day at the Sweeps, and I almost always choose your singaround. Sadly I'm always back on kid duty at 3pm. Your event is well run, and always an interesting mix of people and styles. I like the way everyone is heard with respect at the very least; no-one need feel intimidated that they're not good enough, or not the right sort of singer for your event. Having said that, I do like the very traditional stuff best, but am very happy to hear other stuff around it. I wish I could come to the evenings too, and from the comments I see above, I want to congratulate you on not letting the musicians take over. A session is quite a different thing from a singaround, and they should be kept separate because of their very nature. In a session everyone has a great time playing along together and even the newest and shyest can join in. In a singaround, the newest and shyest would never sing if they had to push themselves forward. If like me you only sing once or twice a year, the format of a singaround allows you time to pysche yourself up for your turn and you know people will be quiet and listen.

BTW John, do you know who the lady in black velvet skirt and pink lace top was on Sunday lunchtime? (She sang Guns & Drums). I really liked her singing, and would like to chat with her some time.

Thanks again, see you next year, or at Tenterden maybe if it doesn't clash with my holiday.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 May 07 - 10:57 AM

Hi Kim. Enjoy the forum. Parts of it are excellent!

I had not heard those words to Guns & Drums before, and it was interesting. When I had a band we used to call it "Bums and Tums" after the aerobics sessions. That was the Corn Exchange bar session. Worth building up, good central venue for drop-ins.

Daughter liked the Monday session - indeed I was ready to go before she was! She did get vexed with the young lad who stood at the bar - he is another of her guitarists, but he had not practised anything vaguely folky and she says he has an excellent male voice but he resolutely refused to have a sing. She will hit him with her rolling pin, or even more dangerously, handbag, next year. His other persona can be seen on his myspace www.myspace.com/gavlikesboobies - he is a doom-metaller! Apparently he had been telling the two young ladies with him that they had to turn their phones off before going in and they did not get it, and he just said "you will see". He was there because he likes it - the experience of co-operative not competitive music and the opportunity to hear the real timbre of voices which is almost impossible through a PA (compare, for example, Mike Nicholson, terrific tone to his voice, drives PA engineers mad trying to reproduce it)

I would only add that John's sessions also permit others to join in with (as distinct from take over from) singers, and either accompany or sing harmony, and that I think is the best buzz.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Dead Horse
Date: 08 May 07 - 12:40 PM

It is with great sadness that I have to report the sudden unexpected demise of one of my closest friends during my performance in the Vic n Bull.
Yes. My triangle broke!
Metal fatigue is my guess.
I went home afterwards and drowned my sorrows in several glasses of best Kentucky Whisky.
But good news! On a recent trip to Louisiana I just happened to purchase three new ones. So all is not lost. I will still be available to act as backing percussion to all and sundry.
Sorry to have missed so many fine singers (and Richard) in the Good Intent. And I never got to enthral anybody with my own dulcet tones.
Next year, if not sooner, huh?


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: The Barden of England
Date: 08 May 07 - 03:17 PM

Kim - That lady I'm pretty sure is Sue Forde who goes to The Folkmob at Eltham. They are a great bunch of people and I would heartily recommend a visit to them if you can possibly make a Wednesday night. Some stunning singers and players, and always welcoming to newcomers. I enjoyed your contributions and hope you keep up the good work. Thanks for making the effort, it is much appreciated.
John Barden


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 08 May 07 - 04:08 PM

Woodsie
It was great to see and hear you, hopefuly much more of the same next year


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 May 07 - 04:28 PM

No, John, it wasn't Sue - it was the other lady sitting to your left in the Corn Exchange session on Sunday. I didn't know her.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: The Barden of England
Date: 08 May 07 - 04:36 PM

Thanks Richard. I'm afraid I can't place her either. Hmmmm. The other person to my left was Derek Moore. I'll try and wrack the brain cells a bit.
John Barden


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 08 May 07 - 04:58 PM

Don't forget the session at the Tudely Oak on Sunday 20th May, hasted by the all new 'Ruff and Reddy'


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Girl Friday
Date: 08 May 07 - 05:51 PM

We leopards had a great time. Sorry not to have been there at same time as Folk Mob, but Mumbling Len had never seen Sid Kipper. Douggie put us on first at Folk Factor so's we could dash off to the Corn Exchange. Earlier we were there at Gastove's singaround, he went outside twice for a smoke, both times there was a strange fellow outside too. Trev, in full leopard said to him. "We'll have to stop meeting like this" to which Sid replied "Yes, people will talk".
We reckoned without winning the competition but got a good reception which was nice. We did get up to Good Intent on Sunday night until gone one, and on Monday lunch. Both were really good, apart from the trouble so well described by Richard Bridge. I dispensed a few of my glares in their direction to no avail. Glad that Growler has admitted liking our car song. Don't feel guilty about it. We will let you have the words once the rewrite is done. Trouble is, those bloody car enthusiasts keep relaunching old brand names.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: melodeonboy
Date: 08 May 07 - 07:09 PM

Many thanks to John Barden for his sessions at the Good Intent, which are the highlight of Sweeps for me. It was also great to see not only the usual reprobates there, but others such as woodsie and Essex Girl that I see less often.

Knockholt, here I come!


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: GUEST,woodsie
Date: 09 May 07 - 04:18 AM

They want £80 a night at the Gordon hotel for the sweeps weekend next year - anybody stayed there? Is this a rip off?


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 09 May 07 - 04:25 AM

Woodsie

Yes - but it is right in the middle of things.

Try the Steam Packet or the South Eastern Railway Hotel in Strood - a walk over the bridge, but no problem for a youngster like you, even carrying a guitar or tinnies.

Be warned, however, they are in sub-truckdriver territory....

Bob adn Kath used to use a little B&B right in the middle - Was it the Blue Boar?

I also think there is a sub-trucker B&B just off the Star Hill end of the High Street, oposite the derelict dairy site.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: The Barden of England
Date: 09 May 07 - 04:39 AM

Woodsie - Try Grayling House on 01634 826593. That's where I stay, but get in quick.
John Barden


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: GUEST,woodsie
Date: 09 May 07 - 05:02 AM

I need somewhere as near as possible cos Kay (wife) is not well and is not very mobile.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: synbyn
Date: 09 May 07 - 07:04 AM

saw signs for £10 b&b going up the hill, promising exotic dancers on weekdays... sorry to miss JBs sessions due to lugging guitar about too much and bit of an ear thing (which meant I could see TDL but not hear them), but great to see No Worries back in circulation. Thing with the Sweeps is that you spend a lot of time catching up with pals & finding out how they overwintered (barns, woodwork, owls' nests) and the time just flashes by. So see you asap and if I didn't respond when you spoke to me cos I wasn't looking, I apologise!


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: The Barden of England
Date: 09 May 07 - 07:11 AM

There'sa lways The Kings Head on (01634) 831103, but I suspect all the places in the High Street will be about that price.
John Barden


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 09 May 07 - 07:47 AM

I think, synbyn, that will probably have been the Star Tap.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: synbyn
Date: 09 May 07 - 01:04 PM

i'm intrigued as to what counts as exotic in the medway towns...


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: growler
Date: 09 May 07 - 03:42 PM

A pup with no underage drinkers


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: melodeonboy
Date: 09 May 07 - 05:57 PM

Bendigo?


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 09 May 07 - 06:08 PM

A person of gender who drops her drawers faster than her aitches.


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Subject: RE: Sweeps Rochester UK
From: Girl Friday
Date: 13 May 07 - 05:40 PM

Woodsie... as discussed on Friday the £80.00 is for adouble room, so not too expensive as hotel b and b's go. Have stayed in the one opposite the dairy, but it's a long walk down. Then there's the trains. The Gordon is where it's at for us. They have a family room at £95.00 so it's reasonable we think.


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