Tech: Friends on Myspace

Subject: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Frogette
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 07:04 AM

Does anyone want to be a friend of Les Sullivan on Myspace. He only has two and one of those is the administrator.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 07:13 AM

He should go trawling for friends - I just put in a request for his friendship.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: mack/misophist
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 11:01 AM

Not a member. Who is Les Sullivan, anyway?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 11:09 AM

Les is a Home Counties (UK) singer/songwriter of particular note, yet his songs are more widely known than he is as a person. You may have heard "Jutland", or "Roses of no-man's land", or "Harvest of iron", or "Natasha", or... etc. His songs have crossed to the US and Australia and up and down the UK. His second album is now out; both his albums extremely worthwhile, and will be much sought after one day.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,Richie Loadsamates
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 11:15 AM

really dont understand how this modern myspace 'friends' scene works

..so what happened to the good old tried and tested ways
of buying shallow fair-weather music biz friendships
with expensive gifts and lavish parties ?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 11:20 AM

The man's only been playing since 1990 but I invited him anyway.
Chuckle!

Good Morning All, from the sunny Highlands of southern Vancouver Island.
Jim

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Surreysinger
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 12:08 PM

Ah but George - trawling for friends? This then raises the question of whether you actually want to seek as many "friends" as you can possibly get, or whether you actually want to ensure that they are people you know. are acquainted with, or have at least spoken to or know you well enough to address you by name ...

Initially I was restricting myself to just people I knew/ had had contact with of some sort, but then I started widening the boundaries somewhat - I've still only got 35 friends (although how two folk festivals and a magazine can actually be called friends defeats me slightly) - but its a small band defined by its quality (grins) . I'm hoping I am sufficiently restrained about this not to become a shameless hunter down of Friends and I'm still trying to work out how a black rapper from the Midlands could possibly think we might have something musically in common ... and he had something like 5000 friends on his space!!!)

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 12:31 PM

Not registered at MySpace, but some casual browsing indicates that those with the thousands of friends quite often are 12 - 14 year old kids who've made up a phony ID and are, literally, competing with each other to see who can get the most "friends."

The other common competition seems to be to see who can get the most flashing, blinking, blaring "inserts" illegibly onto a busy background that's the same color as the text. I found one that wouldn't load, but the source code for the page indicated 23 embedded videos all attempting to start and play simultaneously.

I don't think I'd want them for my "friend."

John

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 12:38 PM

Jeeze! Frogette is suggesting that those of like mind extend the hand of friendship to Les Sullivan in the true spirit of Mudcat!!
Did I miss something?

Let's try this again.

Subject: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Frogette - PM
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 07:04 AM

Does anyone want to be a friend of Les Sullivan on Myspace? He only has two and one of those is the administrator.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 12:48 PM

My policy.
If time allows... (it does usually, I only go on there when I've some time to spare)
...I open up the myspace of every friend request that comes in.
I listen briefly, the music may or may not be interesting.
If the site takes too long to appear (overburdened with graphics, video etc) - I reject that application immediately.
If the music 'genre' does not appeal/fit in etc - reject!...
If the applicant has not bothered to make conatct with a 'message' in some attempt to actually contact me/the band personally - I reject the applicant
(UNLESS! - I find the music DOES appeal or 'fits' with my own genre - then I DO accept)
This whole process takes five mins or (more usually)less, at any one given sitting.
I HAVE found some interesting music via this method, I HAVE made good contacts too.
I have even made 'friends' for real!
...oh, and CD sales too!
Not everybody's cup of tea, of course, but can be useful.
The one advantage over thaqt it has over our own 'website'
- is that folks have to KNOW who you are to google you/seek you out by 'name'...
...myspace has folks finding me/band by then randomly looking through/at other artist's friends - seems to work well that way.
Hugs to all (Hi George! - 'ow ist?)
Cheers - Duncan

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 01:13 PM

So what is his myspace?

And, incidentally, can anyone tell me how to upload my music onto my myspace without becoming a "featured artist"? All myspace can tell me is that I have to write html.....but not what to write.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: DriveForever
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 01:35 PM

I embarassed to even ask this, but can someone explain how 'friends'
works on Myspace ? How does one ask to be someone's friend, and how do you invite friends. If you just simply 'log-in' to your account,
will you automatically see requests ? Any help appreciated; when I
set up my account, I'll go see Les !

               - Dave

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 01:51 PM

There are 4 "Les Sullivans" at Myspace, but I think? the one in question is This Les Sullivan.

He was online there at ~01:50 PM mudcat time.

John

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:02 PM

Richard: Here is one way to get your music on. I think "My space" may have their own radios but I like this one. Go to blastmymusic.com and upload your stuff after you register. Once you have that take the "My Space" html which Music Blast provides you. Go back to "My Space" and install the html wherever it suits you. "Your Profile", "Music Interests" whatever.
Hope that helps.
To make a friend, visit their space while you're logged in and click on "Invite" somewhere up on the left, I think.
Hope this helps.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:14 PM

I discovered myspace about 6 months ago and am hooked!

Go to http://myspace.com/ and then click on the menu bar option "music." Then you can click on the menu bar option "artist signup" at the far right of the screen. It will tell you how to do everything. Or come back here and ask after you've gotten that far.

Friends: once you're signed onto your myspace account, you can browse and search for music you like etc. When you get to a page you like, there's a link where you can "add to friends" on each one. Click on that, and a note will be sent to that site asking to be your friend. If they accept, their photo will appear under your list of "friends" and you can send them private messages (like pm's here on mudcat) or post public comments on their page. You can go look at their friends to possibly find others you might like to add as your own. Click on the photos and you get to their sites. (You can actually go to anyone's site without being signed on, but you need to be signed on to send a friend's request.)

This myspace friends thing is also apparently a good networking and marketing tool. You can post a "bulletin" which goes out to all your friends. Musicians use bulletins to announce gigs and upcoming events, band news, whatever. You can post your gig schedule, upload samples or full copies of your songs, add videos, etc.

If you have a cd on cdbaby.com with digital distribution, you can have those tracks available for sale directly on myspace via cdbaby.com's partnership with snocap.

Free.

I sound like an ad!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:22 PM

Do they take "Paypal" buttons? I was going to look at that today.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:41 PM

Tip: when you sign up as a musician (rather than as an individual), under the tab "sounds like" you should really put some genres and examples, which will make it more likely for searchers to find you and your music. If they are looking for a particular type of music that sounds like whatever, your site will pop up in the search if you have that "whatever" in your "sounds like" column.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 03:20 PM

I could never bring myself to do the "Sounds like" thing nor have I ever searched for someone who sounds like someone else. There are however, several web-sites similar to "My Space" who recommend that you do that. There is no way of figuring out what people do or why, I suppose.
I'll away and have a cup of something that looks like coffee.
Cheers
Jim

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 03:48 PM

What I put in the "sounds like" box is: Bluegrass, old-timey, folk, early country, traditional, original. That way if someone is looking for pages that sound like that kind of music they might find me (and have). Same with the box labeled "influences."

Here, have a look: http://myspace.com/shoregrass

Searching on myspace music is very tough, I've found. There are so many members that it's difficult finding anything or you get back too many hits to go through them.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 04:25 PM

i think its stupid, i reckon its for kids.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 04:32 PM

Sir John - It's obviously not for you - your call - nae worries...
I respect your opinion.... but...
I have had folks come to our gigs - and sold Cds (worldwide) - as a result of being 'found' on MySpace.
I personally don't find any element of that 'stupid'.
Some of them were indeed 'kids' - how bloomin' marvellous that
some young people are getting interested in 'folk' through such channels.
Wishing you all the very best - Duncan

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 04:40 PM

oh.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 04:47 PM

Anway-there not proper freinds, will they look after your hamster when you go in hopstal for operation? answer-no, not proper frends then.
too far away for a start!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,John Robinson
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 05:20 PM

But I don't have a hamster.

I used to have one but it died.

I do have an ants nest in the living room.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 05:29 PM

oh,sorry to hear about your ded hamster.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 05:38 PM

If you have a look at Muppitz folk club's site you can spread out links to a range of folk and neofolk musicians in a way that is interesting.

http://www.myspace.com/woodlarkfc

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 06:47 PM

You can actually go to anyone's site without being signed on, but you need to be signed on to send a friend's request.)

Mostly true, but it is possible for a page/profile to be tagged "private," in which case you have to be a "friend" of the page owner in order to see anything other than the "short profile" that shows up in search results. Or so it appears to me.(?)

John

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Sugwash
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 07:15 PM

Les is lucky, I have only one friend on MySpace and I don't really like the look of him.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Darowyn
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 07:42 PM

Well, I have sent friend requests to everyone on here.
If anyone else wants to add me, my Myspace site is,
http://www.myspace.com/darowynmusic
Cheers
Dave

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 09:28 PM

I am now on MySpace. Anyone who wants to be my friend can go to my site which is www.MySpace.com/borderlinefolk.

                                              SOL ZELLER

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 09:50 PM

I'll respond to yous later tonight. In the meantime,,, anybody else got one?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,Richie Loadsamates
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 12:36 AM

..actually.. now I've read all this..

I dont want any more new friends

real or otherwise..

myspace or my arse..

they always only one way or another let you down

and shag my mrs


bollocks to the lot of 'em !!!!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 12:45 AM

I honestly have no idea why I'm laughing right now.
Really! It's not funny.
Richie: Let me be your friend. Please!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 01:13 AM

Here's mine... http://www.myspace.com/FolkSingerJim

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 01:18 AM

Rabbi Sol www.myspace.com/borderlinefolk

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 01:19 AM

Sol: Nothing works for you man!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 02:51 AM

And don't take my advice on uploading music there. They cut me off!!!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 03:00 AM

I have done my bit - except for Rabbi-Sol's myspace which seems to be out of order -

Oh, and which is HipflaskAndy's myspace?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 01:58 PM

I don't know why my link is not working. I did approve 5 friends requests in the last hour. I think that I got everyone here. If I am missing anyone please let me know.

                                                   SOL

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 02:04 PM

Rabbi-Sol's link is "clickified" wrong. Here's a better one: http://myspace.com/borderlinefolk

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 02:59 PM

Thank you Barbara. I just approved 2 more friends, both from the UK.
Now I believe that I do have everyone here.

                                                 SOL

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 03:54 PM

Not quite. I buggered mine up so badly, I've cancelled my page and will start again.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 03:59 PM

I'll check shortly. I don't use this name on MySpace, and as I have two going on three identities there and am currently uploading audio for one of the other ones, I may be some time.....

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 04:08 PM

Please tell me you're not the dog!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 04:19 PM

Why?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: dj bass
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 05:56 PM

I just sent add requests to both Sol and Les.
http://www.myspace.com/sevenoaksfolk if you're interested.

dj

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 06:43 PM

If you are, I'm not biting! You're not! Are you?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 08:01 PM

Here's my new address http://www.myspace.com/celticfolkmusiconline
Sorry for being such a klutz!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 09:17 PM

OK Jim. I believe I got you now.

                                    SOL

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: DriveForever
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 11:32 PM

Hi Barbara,

   A big THANKS ! To you.   Your tips we're so helpful. Before I
read your posts, I was getting a little frustrated with MySpace.

I visited your Myspace site - really enjoyed your bluegrass selections !

                  - Dave

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Frogette
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 05:34 AM

Thank you everybody Les now has some friends and feels much better. We would always welcome more.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Frogette
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 05:46 AM

Talking about people who compete to have the most friends, can anyone beat "Tom" the administrator

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Surreysinger
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 07:07 AM

Sincerely doubt it!!! Wonder if anyone can beat Tom for the number of rejections of friendship as well???

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 07:27 AM

Some good stuff on myspace - YoungTorniquet are good (but beware, it's pretty hard rock)

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: English Jon
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:04 AM

I've found it quite a useful site - it lets me

keep in touch with my mates
pick up new fans/sell CDs
vent my spleen/indulge a certain creative element
find new and unexpected music that I certainly won't hear in HMV.

I think Sir John is right in as much as the target demographic is basically Kids, but it IS a useful tool - What amazes me is how seriously so many people seem to take it!

Cheers,
Jon

www.myspace.com/jonloomesmusic, if anyone cares!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Snuffy
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:49 AM

It now says:

Les Sullivan has 15 friends.

It pays to advertise!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 09:16 AM

What about having a Mudcat identifer on our Myspace profiles?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,John Robinson
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 10:15 AM

Having sold CDs, concert tickets and started relationships with new venues (ooh er missus) myspace has been a useful tool.

However, it is interesting that our YouTube channel now outperforms our myspace page in all those areas now, even though it is in embryonic form awaiting the "in progress" videos queued up in the studio. Maybe the link to the YouTube video drives traffic to the channel page.

When sites like these are bought and sold for stratospheric amounts of money it does make you wonder how long they have to make their money before the world moves onto the next big thing.

Unfortunately I suspect I'll never be in a postion to have to make those kind of decisions!

For anyone interested:

www.myspace.com/julieellison
www.youtube.com/julieellison

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,John Robinson
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 10:17 AM

B*&^%^*^^%&x

http://www.myspace.com/julieellison
http://www.youtube.com/julieellison

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 11:20 AM

"What about having a Mudcat identifier on our Myspace profiles?"
I'd go for that but what if people started carrying "Myspace" IDs on Mudcat? Wouldn't be very fair to our hosts.
hmmmm! We need a secret handshake.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 11:40 AM

Which one of yous is Dave Gravis?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 02:42 PM

Jed, good idea. I just added Mudcat to my list of "influences." If you do a search for "mudcat" under the category of influences, all the mudcatters who have used this show up.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 03:25 PM

I missed the start of this thread, because I was away from home, visiting Les Sullivan and Frogette!

I have now returned home and joined Myspace, but my invitation to Les to become my friend has not been taken up. Have I done something wrong, or have I omitted to do something I should have done?

Kitty

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 03:47 PM

Les has to accept the invitation, Kitty.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: mick p r.m s.c
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 03:56 PM

We got one friend. Good old Tom. Ciaro Town sample track off our new cd. Blow the wind southerly is not on our new cd but the girls in our shanty group did it anyway. Give the two tracks a listen. MYSPACE.COM click music,type in, walton on the naze shanty crew.



                           CHEERS MICK.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 04:09 PM

Thanks, George P - I'm just interested to find out how this works, because I've had a response telling me you've become a friend, but still nothing from Les!

Nice to know that the friends I've met want to be my virtual friends as well, though!

Kitty

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 04:37 PM

Go to your "Home" page. You know, the one where you update your profile. Check your own invitations to see if anyone has invited you. Accept or decline. Les has to do the same thing before he shows up on your page. THEN HE HAS TO COME TO THIS THREAD AND SAY "THANKYOU" TO EVERYBODY!!!
Kitty: What's your "Myspace" address?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 04:38 PM

I've placed Mudcat.org to my list of influences too.

Seems to be the most appropriate. Second best would be ifsomeone wanted to create a Mudcat Group.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 04:46 PM

GoaheadJed!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,Drive Forever
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 04:56 PM

Hi Jim,

I am 'DriveForever'.

Thank you for probably the nicest compliment I've
ever received ! That really made my day.

                  - Dave Gravis

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 05:01 PM

For some reason myspace will not let me sign in!

Herga Kitty said she got a response indicating a new friend. How do you get that? When I've invited a few people to be friends, I have to go hunt through my friends to see who's new, and I WISH I could get a response telling me someone has become a friend, or at least give me the friends in chronological order...

Jed, I got the idea for "influence" from you. Then, after searching for "mudcat" I found dwditty. And ever since his comment on my page I can't sign in anymore... (THANKS, Rich!)

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 05:02 PM

Jim Lad - apparently I now have 2 friends (Tom and George Papavgeris) at http://www.myspace.com/180146641 !

Kitty

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 05:34 PM

Yes - Barbara. I've had the Mudcat.org listed among my influences for a while. I don;t know how many folks would cut and paste the link into their browser to see hwat Mudcat was all about, but I suspect the musicians seeing it there would do so ...

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 05:45 PM

Kitty

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:00 PM

OK - I've sorted the logo thing out.

If you look here

You'll see I've listed Mudcat as an influence and I have posted the logo with the URL noted. If you click the logo it will bring you to the front page of Mudcat.

Now - I need to be sure it's OK with Max to use his logo as such (he may have others he wants to use, or he may nopt want to attract that much attention). But if he likes the idea, we can build the HTML string and Mudcatters on Myspace who wish to, can post it on their profiles.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:22 PM

OK, I now appear to have 4 friends (thanks, guys)! How do I register Mudcat as an influence?

Kitty

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:30 PM

Crawl around in there for a while. Have a look at Jed's site. And write about yourself!
Cheers
Jim

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:34 PM

Kitty, you opened an ordinary mySpace account - not a music one.
That is why you don't have headings such as "influences", or the ability to upload tracks for people to listen to them.
It is possible to conver to a music account, but I don't know how... You may have to abandon this one and open a new one.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:46 PM

Well, I've asked for help to open a music account!

K

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: jiva
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 07:04 PM

Good to see and hear y'all.

We've made friend requests to Mudcatters who have posted their MySpace addresses.

Ours is
www.myspace.com/jivauk

Cheers
Jimmy & Val (jiva)
www.jiva.co.uk

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 07:15 PM

So, did I do it wrong too?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 07:42 PM

I did not join MySpace as a performer but as a house concert venue.
Can I still upload music tracks of those performers whom I will be booking to appear at my series ?

                                                SOL

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:25 PM

My musicians address is http://www.myspace.com/folksingerjim . I'm just about ready to give up on Myspace.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgh!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 09:49 PM

Yes SOL you can upload tracks for which you have permission to use. I am sure if an artist is performing at your place they'd be happy to have you post their tracks. Other venues like yours do this. I have a song on my profile that was written by Michael Troy. He gave me permission to post it (and to record it, but that another matter).

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 11:04 PM

That's it Jim, much better. Now I can hear your lovely music to make up for seeing your ugly mug! Kidding of course...:-)

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,Sharon G
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 12:20 AM

Here's another one for my band, Round the House:
http://www.myspace.com/roundthehouse

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: DriveForever
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 12:56 AM

Hi Jim,

   Hope you don't give up on Myspace; just went out and listened
to a few more of your selections - all superb !

Everyone should check out Jim's Myspace - you'll enjoy it.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 01:28 AM

Thanks: I'll keep both sites while I make up my mind. I don't know about the rest of you but I found that to be a great deal more work than any other site!
The next time we find a new Catter looking for friends, we'll be ready though.
Cheers (and thanks for your patience)
Jim

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Frogette
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 06:33 AM

Kitty I couldn't find you on Myspace by your name and we didn't receive your request to be a friend. Not that you need to ask of course. I have now sent you a request after finding you from http://www.myspace.com/180146641.

Les Sullivan says thanks to everyone for wanting to be his friend. I have posted some more photos and will try to put some music on.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 10:28 AM

Frogette: We already did the blue clicky thing to Kitty, further up.
Good Morning All, from the cool, grey Highlands.
Jim

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 10:56 AM

Great sounds, Jim!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 10:59 AM

For anyone wanting to add the Mudcat Logo to your Myspace profile (again, take a look at the INFLUENCES listed on my MYSPACE PROFILE to see what I mean) ... I have created the code to do it and a quick set of instructions. This is not rocket science, but I've listed the few steps carefully so it's easy to do for anyone with a Myspace profile.

I have to send it to you via email because Mudcat does not support placing the HTML code into posts or PMs. So if you would like to post the Mudcat logo in your INFLUENCES at Myspace, please send me a PM with your email addy and I'll send you the code and the instructions (just a few quick steps).

If enough people want to do this, we could probably get Max or Joe to set up a permathread or just a page with the instructions and code ...

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: MMario
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 11:26 AM

*sigh* like many sites, MySpace just isn't practical for those of us stuck with slow dial-up. It takes me about 15 minutes to load and sign in. and about the same to look at anyones page. I don't have access to the computer long enough.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 11:54 AM

I've just compiled a list of all the Myspace profile noted on Mudcat:

http://www.myspace.com/180146641

http://www.myspace.com/angajb
http://www.myspace.com/angajb
http://www.myspace.com/annelister/
http://www.myspace.com/askyourfather
http://www.myspace.com/barnsleyfolkclub
http://www.myspace.com/barryhunt
http://www.myspace.com/bearcreek15d
http://www.myspace.com/bensands77
http://www.myspace.com/borderlinefolk
http://www.myspace.com/bothyfolkclub
http://www.myspace.com/celticfolkmusiconline
http://www.myspace.com/darowynmusic
http://www.myspace.com/daveforshaw
http://www.myspace.com/DaveGravis
http://www.myspace.com/davenbrenda
http://www.myspace.com/davidgunn
http://www.myspace.com/debracowan
http://www.myspace.com/dixiediamond
http://www.myspace.com/dwditty
http://www.myspace.com/folksingerjim
http://www.myspace.com/FolkSingerJim
http://www.myspace.com/georgepapavgeris
http://www.myspace.com/gutbucketeer
http://www.myspace.com/hamishcurrie
http://www.myspace.com/isambarde
http://www.myspace.com/jedmarumband
http://www.myspace.com/jivauk
http://www.myspace.com/julieellison
http://www.myspace.com/lessullivan
http://www.myspace.com/lizziecornish
http://www.myspace.com/paulandkimcaudell
http://www.myspace.com/paulsachs
http://www.myspace.com/roundthehouse
http://www.myspace.com/runotmill
http://www.myspace.com/sandyandina
http://www.myspace.com/sevenoaksfolk
http://www.myspace.com/shoregrass
http://www.myspace.com/stephenleerich
http://www.myspace.com/steveandkristinebel
http://www.myspace.com/streamofsound
http://www.myspace.com/theduncanmcfarlaneband
http://www.myspace.com/thehalliard
http://www.myspace.com/thehipshakes
http://www.myspace.com/theloftcambridge
http://www.myspace.com/thunderwolf
http://www.myspace.com/timmundy
http://www.myspace.com/tomblissuk
http://www.myspace.com/twickfolk
http://www.myspace.com/vincemartinmusic
http://www.myspace.com/wearecoolasfolk
http://www.myspace.com/williampintfeliciadale
http://www.myspace.com/woodlarkfc
http://www.myspace.com/woodpussywhistlepig

Who is missing?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 12:16 PM

You got Folksingerjim twice!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,Drive Forever
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 12:35 PM

I think

   http://www.myspace.com/DaveGravis

    is missing ...

Not any more. - LinkFaery

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 12:53 PM

Naw! I listened to him. Dave Gravis is missing nothing!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 02:01 PM

Mudcat and Myspace

If you want to post the Mudcat Cafe logo and a link to mudcat.org on your Myspace Profile, I have posted some code and a few quick instructions
HERE

http://www.jedmarum.com/index.php?links

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 02:06 PM

... anyone willing to double check my code and instructions? I've checked it myslef, but mayeb there's something I missed.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,Sharon G
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 02:30 PM

Hey Jed, that idea to list everyone's myspace is really cool. Maybe it deserves its own thread?
Thanks for taking the time to put that together.
Sharon

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: mandotim
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 02:31 PM

My myspace page is here . Another one for the list!
Tim

added - link faery

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 03:06 PM

I've created a Mudcat Cafe group on Myspace. I wouldn't expect it to get become very big or very busy, but it can help us support Mudcat and vice versa. The group is called "Friends of Mudcat Cafe" - and the group URL is http://groups.myspace.com/mudcat

I've tried contacting all the Mudcatters who have Myspace pages - but it's hard as hell to do so using the Myspace "invite" feature (probably by design to keep the spammers and the robots from beating people to death with fake groups) - so, if you haven't had an invite to join the Mudcat Group on Myspace (and most of you haven't), please GO HERE and click the join group button ... also, once you jpoin, please feel free to invite others to join, especially other Mudcatters ... but new folks too.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 03:10 PM

Thanks for the Mudcat logo HTML, Jed - it's up on my page too now.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 03:57 PM

The logo code works for me too, Jed. I was a little anxious since I had heard on another forum that Myspace had decided to shut out connections to Photobucket, but clearly not so far.
Cheers
Dave

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 04:01 PM

OK, I've sent a request to cancel my account, because it wasn't a music account, and because the people I invited to be my friends didn't receive the invitation!

Kitty

PS JedMarum - this doesn't mean I'm cancelling you as a friend!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 04:03 PM

PS - Jim Lad ditto!

Kitty

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 04:20 PM

frig'nfeedin'frenzy!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,John Robinson
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 04:51 PM

Nice work Jed.

However, I had to smile at the inclusion of The Hipshakes. They are a punk/garage band who I worked with a while back, recording and mixing a single they had released in the US. Can't remember the context in which they came up but they are hardly typical mudcat material.

That said I'm not sure much of the material I've worked on is mudcat material, I'm only here 'cos I have friends in these parts ....

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,reggie miles
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 04:56 PM

http://www.myspace.com/reggiemiles

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 05:19 PM

I think there should be some kind of myspace permanent thread or maybe links in the members info section or something. It's obviously popular and productive to have a myspace page for things music (and otherwise, apparently). It doesn't detract at all from mudcat, which remains for discussion and information and research (and catfights and the occasional pile of garbage) and is kept updated by the individuals themselves -- or not. And it's fun. OK, I'm still a kid at heart...

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 05:30 PM

"I think there should be some kind of myspace permanent thread".....

I tried to touch on this, gently, yesterday. This is excellent networking by a bunch of artists of like mind. However, we are all guests on Mudcat and I think we may be straining our hosts' sense of hospitality by using their network to endorse another.
Know what I'm saying?
Kind of like setting up a "Sears" stall in "Woolworth's"

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 06:30 PM

Actually, I believe we're using Myspace to draw to and support Mudcat. There are lots of using Myspace ofr the business and networking stuff ... and many are longtime Mudcat fans and users ...

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 06:35 PM

Hey, I'm the new guy. I'm sure someone will step in if we're crossing the line so I'll take your word for it. Anyone who can play as many Highland Games as you do, can work with anybody, I'm sure.
Cheers.
Jim.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 06:48 PM

Don't worry Jim, the Mudcat God is not a jealous one! Some incense and a couple of incantations will cover it.

Indeed the two environments are complimentary. On mySpace I can find out more about fellow Mudcatters and listen to their music, see their mugshots etc. On Mudcat I can chat with fellow mySpacers, solve the world's problems, share likes and dislikes, argue and nail the definition of what is "folk" (my little joke), and so on. The two together provide an ideal environment, sort of a myCat or Mudspace...

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 06:49 PM

Now, what's the bet on Max selling out to Murdoch?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 06:56 PM

Way over my head! wheeeeeeee!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 07:01 PM

bongledog is not on there

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Surreysinger
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 07:12 PM

I've got the same problem that Kitty has/had. When I signed up to MySpace over a year ago, I hadn't appreciated that there were two avenues of entry (they don't exactly signpost it clearly do they - or have I been particularly dense?). So I have built up more than a handful of friends (not that many, but enough to make it a pain to have to start all over again!!), and blog entries. Originally I didn't have any music available to put up - but do now. Tech help so far from MySpace help has been a bit lacking in coming forth (got an email today which was definitely not a reply to the query which I had sent them - a new one has just gone off into the ether). Does anyone out there know if it is at all possible to switch one account into another without all the hassle of cancelling/starting afresh??

For what it's worth, my current Space is to be found at My space

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 07:22 PM

I got around things the second time by using one of my spare e-mail addresses to register. Don't take your old site down yet. Start a new one and see what works for you.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Surreysinger
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 08:02 PM

Thanks for the advice Jim ... but presumably I'll still need to start re-asking friends to be friends all over again (if you see what I mean)?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 08:29 PM

That's why we call them "Friends".

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 12:24 AM

Thanks to Jed the Mudcat logo and link has been added to my profile under, "My Music".
                                                SOL

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 07:19 AM

If you need another email address to join myspace in whatever identity you need, go to www.sharpmail.com and create one. It's easy. I have a number of them.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: MMario
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 09:09 AM

myspace and mudcat are compatible. Myspace allows you to post stuff that mudcat isn't setup to handle - such as music and video etc.; the forum and the DT are mudcat's strengths.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,Dave
Date: 20 Apr 07 - 12:02 PM

All this info has been very helpful -
I'd like to be able to enlarge my Photos
on my Myspace page - I can hardly make out the image.

            - Thanks for any help!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,Scabby douglas
Date: 20 Apr 07 - 12:32 PM

Oh well, we can have a Myspace Mudgather.

StevenClarkSongs

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Chip2447
Date: 20 Apr 07 - 11:45 PM

Although, I haven't done any thing with it yet I can be found on MYSPACE http://www.myspace.com/cmartxv

Chip

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 12:59 PM

Chip - your Mypspace page s set to "Does not accept friend requests from bands" - so you will not be able to connect with your udcat friends, unless you go looking for them.

Dave - Myspace will set the pics sizes to the parameters you've applied when creating them. Myspace does compress the pics also. You can use photshop or other programs toadjust the size and resolution of your pics before loading them. Lots of the picture loaders for PCs give you soe control over this too.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JedMarum
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 01:02 PM

So - have we all connected? All the Mudcatters interested in having other Mudcatters as friends, and all interested in being part of the Mudcat group?

We gotta get some more pics up on the group page ... please don;t be shy!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,Dave (DriveForever)
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 02:21 PM

Thanks so much, Jed, for all of your help !
You opened up a whole new world for us !

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 03:03 PM

Jed, I just posted to the myspace forum that I can't figure out how to upload any pics on the group photo page. Maybe we're looking at different options than you, the group leader? Point me in the right direction and I've got a photo of Vixen and Reynaud sitting in with ShoreGrass.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,FFF
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 01:21 PM

another superb folk duo from the UK now have a MySpace site - Scolds Bridle:

check it out (and their new CD)

http://www.myspace.com/scoldsbridleuk


FFF

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 05:08 PM

Reverting to my earlier posts in April (and thanks for your suggestions Jim Lad) I eventually got a reply from the powers that be at MySpace to confirm that it was impossible to transform an "ordinary" MySpace page into a Music one, and that it was necessary to start all over again ... so I've taken Jim's advice, left the old page open, and opened up the new one... and am now going through the time consuming business of inviting "old" Friends to become "new" Friends.... what a palaver!!! Thanks for the advice, though!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,Surreysinger
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 05:15 PM

Sorry - that last was me - I seem to have dropped my cookie somewhere (probably no bad thing as I'm supposed to be on a diet) - will go and find it again!!!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Dave Earl
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 05:21 PM

Just signed into the group.

What happens next?

Dave

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 05:29 PM

Surrey Singer: I took my own advice. Opened two sites and let one go, last night.
Like you, I lost some friends and don't want to bother them.
Invite me please at http://www.myspace.com/folksingerjim
Some pretty weird techno stuff happening on Mudcat, today. Copy your messages before sending them.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Dave Ruch
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 08:52 PM

Just opened one yesterday. Come visit!

www.myspace.com/acousticforum

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Dave Ruch
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 08:55 PM

Oops!! Let's try that again: http://www.myspace.com/acousticforum

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 07:10 AM

Reviving this thread so all the people who have posted their link don't have to repeat themselves on the newer myspace page. Can someone cross-reference the threads?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 01:36 PM

refreshing

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: treewind
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 01:53 PM

Perhaps instead of Mudcat having a permathread about Myspace pages, or ineed in addition to that, The Mudcat Café should have it's OWN MySpace page and all the Mudcat-Myspacers can be friends with it!

Anahata

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 01:58 PM

It does.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Surreysinger
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 08:11 PM

Thanks for that Jim Lad - I'd completely forgotten the existence of it!!! (I remember looking it up when this was first mentioned, but never got round to doing anything)> Anahata - the posting was Jed's of 17 April 07 on this same thread.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Gulliver
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 11:12 PM

I've just started a site and am populating it with friends and pictures, etc., thanks to the advice of the good folk here. But I think I've made the same booboo as mentioned above, ie, my account is probably not a music account (how can you tell?). If I could just upload a few tracks and/or videos I think I'd be happy to hang on to it. Otherwise it looks like I'll have to open a new account to be able to upload music--is that correct?

It's not a big hassle really, 'cos I could keep the present site for family/friends and pictures and stuff. It's at www.myspace.com/donconlan

Thanks to Jim and everyone else for the help!

Don

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: SouthernCelt
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 01:55 PM

Replying to Gulliver:

Yes, you can open both a personal page and a music page, which I've done. With the music page you get the option of uploading a limited number of your music tracks (can't upload covers to which you don't have rights or upload other people's performances as though it's your own). You can put a song from any band on your personal page however. Also there are scripts for embedding standalone music players where you have more options of music to add to your playlist but if you do this you need to kill the one-song MySpace player or you'll get two songs playing at the same time. I don't have the standalone player so I don't know how you go about finding the script for it.

SC

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Surreysinger
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 04:51 PM

Gulliver - yes, quite a few of those have been caught like that. If you have what one of my MySpace friends called a "vanilla" page (ie non-artist) there is no means of changing it into an artist's Space. You just have to start the rigmarole of signing up friends and putting up your profile all over again. In fact MySpace have now got a set of FAQ's which covers that one somewhere (don't ask me where!)

Next time you go into your MySpace page have a look at the bar at the top - to the right somewhere you'll see a heading which is either artists or Music - sorry can't remember which. Click on that and you'll get an invitation to sign up (if I remember rightly) .... I'm sure you'll find someone on here who knows the details more intimately than I do, but at the moment without coming out of here, and going to have a look my memory is a bit hazy on it!!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Gulliver
Date: 08 Jan 08 - 08:20 PM

Thanks for the info, I'll investigate this further. It looks like I'll open a new site for music. Most of the music we do is traditional, so I guess uploads of this kind of music should not be a problem (?).

Thanks, Don

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 03:23 AM

Makes no odds, Gulliver.
No Genres in MySpace.
Do with it as you please.