Tech: Friends on Myspace

Subject: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Frogette
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 07:04 AM

Does anyone want to be a friend of Les Sullivan on Myspace. He only has two and one of those is the administrator.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 07:13 AM

He should go trawling for friends - I just put in a request for his friendship.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: mack/misophist
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 11:01 AM

Not a member. Who is Les Sullivan, anyway?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 11:09 AM

Les is a Home Counties (UK) singer/songwriter of particular note, yet his songs are more widely known than he is as a person. You may have heard "Jutland", or "Roses of no-man's land", or "Harvest of iron", or "Natasha", or... etc. His songs have crossed to the US and Australia and up and down the UK. His second album is now out; both his albums extremely worthwhile, and will be much sought after one day.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,Richie Loadsamates
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 11:15 AM

really dont understand how this modern myspace 'friends' scene works

..so what happened to the good old tried and tested ways
of buying shallow fair-weather music biz friendships
with expensive gifts and lavish parties ?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 11:20 AM

The man's only been playing since 1990 but I invited him anyway.
Chuckle!

Good Morning All, from the sunny Highlands of southern Vancouver Island.
Jim

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Surreysinger
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 12:08 PM

Ah but George - trawling for friends? This then raises the question of whether you actually want to seek as many "friends" as you can possibly get, or whether you actually want to ensure that they are people you know. are acquainted with, or have at least spoken to or know you well enough to address you by name ...

Initially I was restricting myself to just people I knew/ had had contact with of some sort, but then I started widening the boundaries somewhat - I've still only got 35 friends (although how two folk festivals and a magazine can actually be called friends defeats me slightly) - but its a small band defined by its quality (grins) . I'm hoping I am sufficiently restrained about this not to become a shameless hunter down of Friends and I'm still trying to work out how a black rapper from the Midlands could possibly think we might have something musically in common ... and he had something like 5000 friends on his space!!!)

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 12:31 PM

Not registered at MySpace, but some casual browsing indicates that those with the thousands of friends quite often are 12 - 14 year old kids who've made up a phony ID and are, literally, competing with each other to see who can get the most "friends."

The other common competition seems to be to see who can get the most flashing, blinking, blaring "inserts" illegibly onto a busy background that's the same color as the text. I found one that wouldn't load, but the source code for the page indicated 23 embedded videos all attempting to start and play simultaneously.

I don't think I'd want them for my "friend."

John

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 12:38 PM

Jeeze! Frogette is suggesting that those of like mind extend the hand of friendship to Les Sullivan in the true spirit of Mudcat!!
Did I miss something?

Let's try this again.

Subject: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Frogette - PM
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 07:04 AM

Does anyone want to be a friend of Les Sullivan on Myspace? He only has two and one of those is the administrator.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 12:48 PM

My policy.
If time allows... (it does usually, I only go on there when I've some time to spare)
...I open up the myspace of every friend request that comes in.
I listen briefly, the music may or may not be interesting.
If the site takes too long to appear (overburdened with graphics, video etc) - I reject that application immediately.
If the music 'genre' does not appeal/fit in etc - reject!...
If the applicant has not bothered to make conatct with a 'message' in some attempt to actually contact me/the band personally - I reject the applicant
(UNLESS! - I find the music DOES appeal or 'fits' with my own genre - then I DO accept)
This whole process takes five mins or (more usually)less, at any one given sitting.
I HAVE found some interesting music via this method, I HAVE made good contacts too.
I have even made 'friends' for real!
...oh, and CD sales too!
Not everybody's cup of tea, of course, but can be useful.
The one advantage over thaqt it has over our own 'website'
- is that folks have to KNOW who you are to google you/seek you out by 'name'...
...myspace has folks finding me/band by then randomly looking through/at other artist's friends - seems to work well that way.
Hugs to all (Hi George! - 'ow ist?)
Cheers - Duncan

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 01:13 PM

So what is his myspace?

And, incidentally, can anyone tell me how to upload my music onto my myspace without becoming a "featured artist"? All myspace can tell me is that I have to write html.....but not what to write.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: DriveForever
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 01:35 PM

I embarassed to even ask this, but can someone explain how 'friends'
works on Myspace ? How does one ask to be someone's friend, and how do you invite friends. If you just simply 'log-in' to your account,
will you automatically see requests ? Any help appreciated; when I
set up my account, I'll go see Les !

               - Dave

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 01:51 PM

There are 4 "Les Sullivans" at Myspace, but I think? the one in question is This Les Sullivan.

He was online there at ~01:50 PM mudcat time.

John

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:02 PM

Richard: Here is one way to get your music on. I think "My space" may have their own radios but I like this one. Go to blastmymusic.com and upload your stuff after you register. Once you have that take the "My Space" html which Music Blast provides you. Go back to "My Space" and install the html wherever it suits you. "Your Profile", "Music Interests" whatever.
Hope that helps.
To make a friend, visit their space while you're logged in and click on "Invite" somewhere up on the left, I think.
Hope this helps.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:14 PM

I discovered myspace about 6 months ago and am hooked!

Go to http://myspace.com/ and then click on the menu bar option "music." Then you can click on the menu bar option "artist signup" at the far right of the screen. It will tell you how to do everything. Or come back here and ask after you've gotten that far.

Friends: once you're signed onto your myspace account, you can browse and search for music you like etc. When you get to a page you like, there's a link where you can "add to friends" on each one. Click on that, and a note will be sent to that site asking to be your friend. If they accept, their photo will appear under your list of "friends" and you can send them private messages (like pm's here on mudcat) or post public comments on their page. You can go look at their friends to possibly find others you might like to add as your own. Click on the photos and you get to their sites. (You can actually go to anyone's site without being signed on, but you need to be signed on to send a friend's request.)

This myspace friends thing is also apparently a good networking and marketing tool. You can post a "bulletin" which goes out to all your friends. Musicians use bulletins to announce gigs and upcoming events, band news, whatever. You can post your gig schedule, upload samples or full copies of your songs, add videos, etc.

If you have a cd on cdbaby.com with digital distribution, you can have those tracks available for sale directly on myspace via cdbaby.com's partnership with snocap.

Free.

I sound like an ad!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:22 PM

Do they take "Paypal" buttons? I was going to look at that today.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:41 PM

Tip: when you sign up as a musician (rather than as an individual), under the tab "sounds like" you should really put some genres and examples, which will make it more likely for searchers to find you and your music. If they are looking for a particular type of music that sounds like whatever, your site will pop up in the search if you have that "whatever" in your "sounds like" column.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 03:20 PM

I could never bring myself to do the "Sounds like" thing nor have I ever searched for someone who sounds like someone else. There are however, several web-sites similar to "My Space" who recommend that you do that. There is no way of figuring out what people do or why, I suppose.
I'll away and have a cup of something that looks like coffee.
Cheers
Jim

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 03:48 PM

What I put in the "sounds like" box is: Bluegrass, old-timey, folk, early country, traditional, original. That way if someone is looking for pages that sound like that kind of music they might find me (and have). Same with the box labeled "influences."

Here, have a look: http://myspace.com/shoregrass

Searching on myspace music is very tough, I've found. There are so many members that it's difficult finding anything or you get back too many hits to go through them.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 04:25 PM

i think its stupid, i reckon its for kids.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 04:32 PM

Sir John - It's obviously not for you - your call - nae worries...
I respect your opinion.... but...
I have had folks come to our gigs - and sold Cds (worldwide) - as a result of being 'found' on MySpace.
I personally don't find any element of that 'stupid'.
Some of them were indeed 'kids' - how bloomin' marvellous that
some young people are getting interested in 'folk' through such channels.
Wishing you all the very best - Duncan

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 04:40 PM

oh.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 04:47 PM

Anway-there not proper freinds, will they look after your hamster when you go in hopstal for operation? answer-no, not proper frends then.
too far away for a start!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,John Robinson
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 05:20 PM

But I don't have a hamster.

I used to have one but it died.

I do have an ants nest in the living room.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 05:29 PM

oh,sorry to hear about your ded hamster.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 05:38 PM

If you have a look at Muppitz folk club's site you can spread out links to a range of folk and neofolk musicians in a way that is interesting.

http://www.myspace.com/woodlarkfc

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 06:47 PM

You can actually go to anyone's site without being signed on, but you need to be signed on to send a friend's request.)

Mostly true, but it is possible for a page/profile to be tagged "private," in which case you have to be a "friend" of the page owner in order to see anything other than the "short profile" that shows up in search results. Or so it appears to me.(?)

John

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Sugwash
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 07:15 PM

Les is lucky, I have only one friend on MySpace and I don't really like the look of him.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Darowyn
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 07:42 PM

Well, I have sent friend requests to everyone on here.
If anyone else wants to add me, my Myspace site is,
http://www.myspace.com/darowynmusic
Cheers
Dave

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 09:28 PM

I am now on MySpace. Anyone who wants to be my friend can go to my site which is www.MySpace.com/borderlinefolk.

                                              SOL ZELLER

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 09:50 PM

I'll respond to yous later tonight. In the meantime,,, anybody else got one?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: GUEST,Richie Loadsamates
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 12:36 AM

..actually.. now I've read all this..

I dont want any more new friends

real or otherwise..

myspace or my arse..

they always only one way or another let you down

and shag my mrs


bollocks to the lot of 'em !!!!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 12:45 AM

I honestly have no idea why I'm laughing right now.
Really! It's not funny.
Richie: Let me be your friend. Please!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 01:13 AM

Here's mine... http://www.myspace.com/FolkSingerJim

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 01:18 AM

Rabbi Sol www.myspace.com/borderlinefolk

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 01:19 AM

Sol: Nothing works for you man!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 02:51 AM

And don't take my advice on uploading music there. They cut me off!!!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 03:00 AM

I have done my bit - except for Rabbi-Sol's myspace which seems to be out of order -

Oh, and which is HipflaskAndy's myspace?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 01:58 PM

I don't know why my link is not working. I did approve 5 friends requests in the last hour. I think that I got everyone here. If I am missing anyone please let me know.

                                                   SOL

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 02:04 PM

Rabbi-Sol's link is "clickified" wrong. Here's a better one: http://myspace.com/borderlinefolk

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 02:59 PM

Thank you Barbara. I just approved 2 more friends, both from the UK.
Now I believe that I do have everyone here.

                                                 SOL

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 03:54 PM

Not quite. I buggered mine up so badly, I've cancelled my page and will start again.

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 03:59 PM

I'll check shortly. I don't use this name on MySpace, and as I have two going on three identities there and am currently uploading audio for one of the other ones, I may be some time.....

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 04:08 PM

Please tell me you're not the dog!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 04:19 PM

Why?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: dj bass
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 05:56 PM

I just sent add requests to both Sol and Les.
http://www.myspace.com/sevenoaksfolk if you're interested.

dj

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 06:43 PM

If you are, I'm not biting! You're not! Are you?

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Jim Lad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 08:01 PM

Here's my new address http://www.myspace.com/celticfolkmusiconline
Sorry for being such a klutz!

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 09:17 PM

OK Jim. I believe I got you now.

                                    SOL

Subject: RE: Tech: Friends on Myspace
From: DriveForever
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 11:32 PM

Hi Barbara,

   A big THANKS ! To you.   Your tips we're so helpful. Before I
read your posts, I was getting a little frustrated with MySpace.

I visited your Myspace site - really enjoyed your bluegrass selections !

                  - Dave