BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 03:02 PM

Another sad day.
I remember the shootings from the Library Tower of my school, Univ. Texas, in 1966. Sixteen killed by the sniper with a rifle. Shock then and shock today.

Was the shooter a student? When I last listened, that was not determined.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Big Mick
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 03:00 PM

The first thing that must be said is to express grief and sorrow for the families involved.

As to those that want to turn this into a gun debate, I ask you if it would have been less shocking if this sick individual had done a Tim McVeigh and filled a auto trunk (boot) with fertilizer and kerosene and blew up the building? Bobad did ask one intelligent question. What's the cause? Figure that out and you will end these things much sooner than some phoney gun ban. That will just leave weapons in the hands of irresponsible criminals.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 02:56 PM

Okay, that makes more sense. Anyway, I imagine that's the one Rap was thinking of.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: nickp
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 02:55 PM

And Blacksburg is a lovely quiet town. I've cvivited it several times and always felt very relaxed there.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: bobad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 02:49 PM

"L'Ecole Polytechnique, part of McGill."

L'Ecole Polytechnique is part of Universite de Montreal.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 02:47 PM

No words come to me right now except I feel a profound anger and sadness and dismay.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 02:47 PM

31 dead. Geez.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 02:46 PM

"You probably meant to say the Dawson College shooting in Montreal rather than McGill, Rap."

No, he's thinking back ten years ago or so - there were twenty some women shot and killed at L'Ecole Polytechnique, part of McGill.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 02:41 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 02:41 PM

CBS News is now reporting 29 dead.

                                     SOL ZELLER

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Alice
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 02:31 PM

To have bomb threats to the engineering building last week and now this shooting, there are reports of an off campus incident that may have been connected to this. So much more yet to be uncovered, so much pain now.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Shaneo
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 02:15 PM

So people kill people , not guns , I have heard that statement thousand's of times ,it's a cop out probably started by some greedy gun lobby. it's this thing in the American constitution that gives civilians the right to carry guns , now that's asking for trouble.
If a man walks into a school with a gun and starts shooting , there's a good chance he will kill many before he is caught.
If a man walks into a school with a knife and starts knifing the kids there's a much better chance of getting the knife away from him before he kills many.
How many children must die before the law is changed to stop civilians carrying guns.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Jim Lad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 02:12 PM

My most sincere condolences to the families of those lost on this tragic day. A special prayer tonight for all of you in Virginia.
With deepest sympathy.
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Alice
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 01:54 PM

Headlines show climbing death toll. My heart goes out to all those there who are dealing with this. My first thought
when I heard the news say Virginia was that many Mudcatters are there. For anyone reading this in the future who is touched
by these killings, am so sorry for your loss.
"ABC News has confirmed that there were two separate bomb threats last week at Virginia Tech that targeted engineering buildings. The first was directed at Torgersen Hall, while the second was directed at multiple engineering buildings. Students and staff were evacuated, and the university had offered a $5,000 reward for information into the threats."

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: bobad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 01:47 PM

You probably meant to say the Dawson College shooting in Montreal rather than McGill, Rap.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Alice
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 01:46 PM

If little girls in an Amish school aren't safe, how can we predict who will be attacked. I am feeling sick for the people involved in Virginia.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 01:45 PM

Virginia Tech is a four year college; it's more akin to the McGill killings than Columbine. Or the Texas Tower.

But I don't know any more about it than anyone else right now.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: bobad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 01:35 PM

That's the problem isn't it? Finding a solution when there are many causes. I guess one would have to look for some commonality - the one that comes to my mind is the availability of guns in America. But of course we all know that guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Alice
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 01:30 PM

Humans attack others for many reasons. A location like a campus or office building or shopping mall gives the attacker easy access to crowds of people. Horrifying.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: bobad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 01:24 PM

"What is the solution?"

What is the cause?

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Alice
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 01:22 PM

When you send your kids off to school, you worry about many things, and since Columbine, campus shootings are part of that worry. I know murders happened before Columbine, too, but these massive attacks just seem to keep coming. What is the solution?

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Bee
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 01:11 PM

I feel so sorry for all involved in this tragedy. I've been listening to CBC reports and it is just as bad as reported elsewhere. Local hospitals have confirmed at least 21 injured/wounded, and authorities now say 21 dead.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:52 PM

Apologies appear to be in order. CNN is reporting that at least 20 students were killed. Here's a link to their story: Click here for CNN

Sorry, Alice.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:46 PM

When you stop allowing people to have guns... but even then, it will only slow it down. Our borough is investigating a second killing, both victims attended the same school, but they were killed 3 weeks apart.

This is terrible news, memories of Columbine and other schools are too near the surface already.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:45 PM

According to ABC News and a Canadian report:

At least 1 dead, others injured in Virginia Tech shooting; suspect arrested

Canadian Press
Published: Monday, April 16, 2007


BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) - Officials say gunfire that erupted in a dorm and classroom at Virginia Tech has killed one person and wounded 17.
A hospital spokeswoman says 17 students have been treated for gunshot wounds and other injuries. The university says police have confirmed that a suspect has been arrested.
Students have been told to stay inside and away from windows. And police were sweeping the campus and worked to establish whether the gunman acted alone.
On its web site, Virginia Tech says the shootings at opposite ends of the campus caused "multiple victims,".

All entrances to the campus were closed and classes cancelled through Tuesday.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:45 PM

They are saying 22 dead, 20 hurt now, with the shooter dead.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Alice
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:41 PM

A quite detailed description of how he moved across campus from the dorm to the classroom shooting was given on the NBC tv special report.
Some students tried to hold the classroom door closed with their bodies to keep him out, but he shot through the door.
Madness, when will it end.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Alice
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:38 PM

NBC news reported 20 dead, 28 wounded.

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:38 PM

My apologies if you are correct.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:37 PM

Alice-

There may have been 20 wounded and one dead according to CNN reports that I've just seen. Your title of this thread should be changed unlss you have better sources.

Would you please contact one of the Joe Clones via the Quick Links and request that they change the thread title.

The news is alarming enough without making it seem worse.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Alice
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:33 PM

20 killed, 28 injured are the first numbers being reported.
One student did the shooting, also dead now.

Subject: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
From: Alice
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:31 PM

Horrible event starting in a dormitory and then moved to classrooms in the engineering building where a student shot at least 20.
breaking news now