date last 78's pressed date 33's first

Subject: date last 78's pressed date 33's first
From: GUEST,Allan S.
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 04:14 PM

Does any one know when they stopped pressing 78 rpm records and when first 33 1/3 first released. I am searching for information on the song "Bucket mouth mcginty" released on the Capitol Americana label.
Sung by Larry Cassidy suposidly written by by McCoy-gould-Cassidy.. flip side "Thatwild and Wicked look in your eye.

Subject: RE: date last 78's pressed date 33's first
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 04:43 PM

Probably NOT very helpful , but quite a lot of early Rock'n Roll was on 78 - Very late fifties !"

Subject: RE: date last 78's pressed date 33's first
From: Bernard
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 05:28 PM

They were still producing 'singles' on 10" 78 in the early 1960s alongside the vinyl 45 - I remember buying my very first single in 1958 (I think), which was Lord Rockingham's XI 'Hootsmon' on Decca (still got it, but it's cracked) and also The Kingston Trio 'Tom Dooley' on 78 on Capitol (pink label).

I managed to get a vinyl 45 of 'Hootsmon' secondhand some years ago, but it wasn't the same without the smell of dust burning off the valves (tubes) of the old radiogram!

Anyone remember them with Cherry Wainer on Hammond Organ when they used to be the 'house band' on 6-5 Special? And a very sickly-looking Cliff Richard when he first started out?!

Subject: RE: date last 78's pressed date 33's first
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 05:39 PM

There's a pretty good synopsis of record formats at http://www.history-of-rock.com/record_formats.htm

My question, being one who never paid too much attention to pop, is:
"When did singles (78 or 45)stop dominating record sales?"

Subject: RE: date last 78's pressed date 33's first
From: pdq
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 05:55 PM

when (did) they stopped pressing 78 rpm records (?)

They never really have stopped producing them completely, especially in under-deveolped countries. I know people with old presses who could make them now.

when (was) first 33 1/3 first released (?)

In the late 1920, some transcription records and some theater sound recordings were done at 33.33, but they had the "78" size groove.

first 33 1/3 first released

Columbia made the first PVC microgroove 33.33 in 1948 for sale to the public. The same year RCA made the PVC 7" records for the juke box industry. Now called a "45", they also use the microgroove.

"When did singles (78 or 45)stop dominating record sales?"

Probably 1965, thanks to the Beatles and other British Invasion groups.   Sgt. Pepper probably would not work well as a series of 45s that you must change.

Subject: RE: date last 78's pressed date 33's first
From: Bernard
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 06:02 PM

Ooops! Slight touch of Alzheimers...!

LRXI were on 'Oh Boy!', not 6-5 Special... I was only 10 at the time...!

Subject: RE: date last 78's pressed date 33's first
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 05:50 AM

I have a couple of 78s - microgroove ones - from as late as 1968, but they are production music library discs. I think, in the UK at least, they'd stopped making them for commercial release by the end of the '50s (I've got Gene Vincent's 'Be Bop a Lula" on 78 - that must date from about 1956?). I heard tell that countries like India were pressing commercial 78s up to the 1970s (I remember reading somewhere that there are some very collectable Beatles 78s from India pressed in the late 60s)

Subject: RE: date last 78's pressed date 33's first
From: GUEST,Darren Giddings
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 05:51 AM

Sorry, that anonymous guest above was me!

Subject: RE: date last 78's pressed date 33's first
From: Mr Happy
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 08:07 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramophone_record

Subject: RE: date last 78's pressed date 33's first
From: Kent Davis
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 12:33 AM

78s were still being made for commercial release in the U.S. in the middle 1960s, at least for children's records. From around 1964 to around 1966, my grandmother bought us a new record about once a month. Most of them were 45s, but a few were 78s.
Kent Davis