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Subject: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: SLM Date: 28 Apr 99 - 11:29 AM To all those lonely heart folksters out there- Do you ever feel awkward singing all those wonderful old love songs when you have no one to sing them to? Let me know how you feel. Maybe we should change this one to: "I've never had not one true love" Sorry, Grammarians |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: MMario Date: 28 Apr 99 - 11:39 AM But singing love songs can be so fullfilling - especially when you sing them to a different person at every show... *snicker* or as I did at one show, to 5 different women - vowing eternal love to each, then moving to another with the next verse.... MMario
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Pete Peterson Date: 28 Apr 99 - 01:36 PM Allan Block sings a version of Polly put the kettle on that goes Polly put the kettle on the little one the big one Polly put the kettle on we'll all take tea Slice of bread and buttermilk is good enough for anyone Choose the one you love the bst and bring her home to me Oh dear ______ how I love you Nobody else do I love like I love you Heart you have and hand I give you One more kiss before I leave you. . . I once saw him sing this at a house concert and go 'round the room mentioning EVERY woman by name and gazing deeply into the eyes of that particular woman as he was singing Back in the days when my daughters weren's speaking to me I would use their three names. . . |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: katlaughing Date: 28 Apr 99 - 01:47 PM And here I thought this was going to be a Mudcatter MatchMaker thread! Surely there ARE some of us out there who would like to hook up? Do we have any romances that have blossomed from meeting in these threads? I've always wondered. kat |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Joe Offer Date: 28 Apr 99 - 02:07 PM Well, Mick and I are still chasing after the fair Alison and trying to pretend she doesn't have a hubby.... |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Rick Fielding Date: 28 Apr 99 - 02:10 PM I fell in love with your voice on the radio Kat. From the mudcatters I've seen though, I think Joe is our sex symbol. |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: katlaughing Date: 28 Apr 99 - 04:40 PM Ah, Rick, ya old softie, you're too kind. I think I sound brash, loud, fast and way too weird on tape or air! And, I've seen your pictures.....ya'll are no slouches, ya know! Now, I am serious: are there those among us who've met and made a match here? I am doing research on anudder Mudder editorial; names will be changed to protect the inoocent and/or guilty!*BG* Did just finish the first ed. since mom died in Jan. It's not at all what I thought I was going to write; but is on the Colorado massacre and the MUDCAT is mentioned prominently! damn thing wouldn''t let me sleep last night until I got up, finally at 3 a.m. and pounded it out on the keys. I think I got about an hour's worth of sleep. Now, I am fading fast. Snnnnnnnzzzzzzzz....huh? Oh, yeh, well ma bed looks purty invitin'; time fer a KatNap. kat |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: sarah.rose Date: 28 Apr 99 - 04:47 PM Hey- I'm a single white 22 year old alto female. Totally unattached. How's that? |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Alice Date: 28 Apr 99 - 05:12 PM oooooohhh lonesome me. Besides kind and friendly words from Mudcatters, I did receive some unwanted (and scary) email back in the beginning of the Mudcat personal page set up. I had to let Max know about someone (and I hope Max has blocked him) who started sending messages to my hotmail address, saying he knew who I was and where I live, etc, etc. That really scared me. It has taken me quite awhile to volunteer personal information here, and I am surprised at how much I have actually revealed to total strangers. Sometimes we forget to be careful when we get into these conversations. We forget that anyone can log on and read them. |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: bbc Date: 28 Apr 99 - 05:16 PM I *did* find my sweetheart on the Internet (about 2 years ago) & a mutual interest in folk music was certainly one of the things which brought us together, but not through Mudcat. We met through meetmeonline, a free, international, email-based personals site. Pretty neat! bbc |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Matthew B. Date: 28 Apr 99 - 06:08 PM First of all, kat, please accept my sincerest condolences on the loss of your mother. I lost my father ten years ago, and my mother just had a heart catheterization that had us all terrified (until the results came out yesterday, thank God). So I know what it's like. I'm sending you warm thoughts for happy healing. On a happier note, kat asks whether anybody's made an actual match here. Protocol probably forbids me to name names (so I won't) but a couple of Mudcatter's recently had their first date here in NYC a few months ago --ending up at our monthly shanty sing!! (the perfect date) He actually flew up from parts South to meet her here. I'm not privvy to how things stand between them now (as a couple or not), but they're both really nice folks, and I'm in touch with her as a new friend. Ariel, my guess is that about 20 Mudcat men jumped out of their seats when they saw your posting above, but something tells me it might be a good idea to include one's location (city & state only) in their list of "vitals." Not even as a "matchmaking" thing per se, but even as an ice-breaker for friendship, it might be helpful to know whether someone lives close enough to invite them out for coffee or a jam session. Alice, that e-mail stalker of yours sounds really creepy. Eeeew. I hardly even know you at all, yet somehow I feel like some self-appointed big brother who looks out for you. Let me know if you need me to put him in his place (and I don't mean Montana either). What a shame, too, because I'd really love it if we could all become really close friends since we're obviously (mostly) all kindred spirits here. Also on the subject of matchmaking, I submitted my photo about two weeks ago and it still hasn't shown up. Do any of you HTML-ers know how I might post it here myself and create a hyperlink to it? (You women could always use a good laugh, n'est pas?) And finally, thank you to bbc for that lovely birthday card. You were the only one. M |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: katlaughing Date: 28 Apr 99 - 06:38 PM Dear Mathew, did we miss your b-day? Was there a thread for it? I am so sorry. Thanks so much for your oh so kind words. It means a lot to me; without the Mudcat, at the time, I don't know how I would have made it past the initial shock. I know what you mean about the protective thing. We all feel that way a little I think. And, I think just the state we're in would be agood idea. The city could be safer in a personal message. Yes, Alice, it is easay to forget that not only Mudders are allowed in to read this conversations. Mathew, read the HTML Stuff thread for info on creating a link. The photos are done in the album by Bill D., so you could send him a message. He does it allon a volunteer basis, so sometimes it takes awhile before he can get to them. Patience...our hearts will still go pitter-patter when we finally lay eyes on yer mug, I am sure! Thanks, again, katlaughing and healing |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Bri Date: 28 Apr 99 - 06:45 PM I suppose there aren't any guys under 18?? |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Matthew B. Date: 28 Apr 99 - 06:46 PM Dear kat, Thanks for your kind wishes. My birthday was 4/24 and I started a "missed birthday" thread the next day when I discovered (too late) that my submission to the birthday database hadn't been registered yet. Then bbc was kind enough to send me an e-card. Yes, I did send my pic to Bill a couple of weeks ago. And yes, I've seen the massive tome on HTML stuff, but I guess there was just too much information in there for me to sift through for this. Do you know if there is some way I could post my pic on, say, my Mudcat "personal page" and then have it available to the other 'catters? Matthew PS - I'm from NY City |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Susan of DT Date: 28 Apr 99 - 07:36 PM I once met someone thru Sing Out's Songfinder column and dated him for 5 years. Then I met Dick thru a singing circle 15 years ago. |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: katlaughing Date: 28 Apr 99 - 08:29 PM Hey, Susan, that's great! Thanks for sharing that. Didja hear that, "bet"? Where is Joe Offer when ya need 'im? Matthew, send Joe a personal message. I am sure he can help you. He's really good at hyperlink stuff!!!Taught me all I know!everyone seems to be pretty careful about filling up the threads and personal pages with stuff that takes a lot of memory, so I don't know about putting your pic there. I am sure BillD. will get to it when he can. So, you're a Taurus like my son, Colin, and my dad. Stubborn, bullheaded, kind, softie, hardworker, gorgeous, intelligent, sensitive.....any other additions? NYC, huh? Later, katlaughing |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Max Date: 28 Apr 99 - 08:37 PM Hey, My wife is out of town. Do I count??? Bert (using Max's machine again.) |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Joe Offer Date: 28 Apr 99 - 08:50 PM Nope, Kat. can't help. I can't link to a page unless there's a page to link to. I leave the business of operating Web pages in the capable hands of Gene (sounds) and BillD (pictures) and Lesley (MIDI) and Bruce O.(wonderful music information). Bill does a good job of the picture album, but he does have a life outside of maintaining pictures - you just have to be patient. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Tucker Date: 28 Apr 99 - 09:05 PM Hummmm,sdwm,51,totally nutso about celtic music, short, light and handsome, still got hair, blue eyes, aquarian,born on friday the 13th.Hair color debatable since I lie to myself...formerly blond but folks now call it kinda gray. Probably impossible to live with. Has animals out the ying-yang,woodworker, garden freak,reader,singer,writer, stained glass artist,carver,boater and canoer, likes jumping of cliffs with ropes,sleeping in tents when perfectly good hotel rooms are going empty.Loves long walks in the country ( I love that line!!! When I have asked ladies how far they like to walk they can't get off the phone fast enough when I say I like to walk 2 or 3 miles, in the actual woods). I would like to use the other famous one "full figured" but I am more full of tripe than figure. Hey Joe, this is cool. Most of the other ads just give you so many words. If you get into this you could let us go on and on and on and on, and make BIG BUCKS!!! Ok,veteran, father,psyhic,pagan,grandfather,mushroomer,firefighter(retired)bad whistle player and even worse banjo player.Decent guitar player, harmonizer,TeutonicCelticNativeAmerican. Sorry, I left out the hyphens. Oh well Brag, brag brag, blah,blah, blah |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Tony Burns Date: 28 Apr 99 - 09:46 PM Hey Bri, This is the Internet. I can be under 18 if you like. :-) |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Mudjack Date: 28 Apr 99 - 10:09 PM Marraige of 36 years to the same woman disqualifies my input.When you sing a love song, mean it. It's real tough when your running through your set for practice giving it your best heart warming rendention of your favorite love song and look down to see your loving dog with them great big brown eyes fluttering a "I love You" look. Jack |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: bet Date: 28 Apr 99 - 10:16 PM |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: bet Date: 28 Apr 99 - 10:18 PM oops! Hit the wrong button. Things are starting to sound interesting! |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 28 Apr 99 - 10:37 PM Well, I may be single, but I would not consider myself lonely. I've lots of friends and am out more days of the week than at home. For instance this week, I was out Sunday, Tuesday and tonight at "sing-things". Matthew B, if you have your picture online anywhere (ie at your internet provider's system or elsewhere), you can show it by using a command like this <img href="http://www.location.where.it.is/picture_name.jpg" alt="Matthew's Picture"> For instance, here's my picture
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Rick Fielding Date: 28 Apr 99 - 10:40 PM Kat, why on earth would you think that "brash, loud, fast, and way too weird", would be negatives? I think that you and your sister should double date with Sandy and I. Caroline and Heather would probably spill the beans and tell you that we're just a couple of boring old farts who'd sing songs til you ran screaming back into the hills. To Bri: How about the "maturity of an 18 year old?" |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: RedFez (inactive) Date: 28 Apr 99 - 11:47 PM Well, Bri mentioned under 18 year olds...fortunately I am just a little bit past that, but that brings up an interesting point. How many people interested in folk/traditional music are younger than 30? I hope that this isn't a dying pastime, and I wonder what the next generation is going to look like, if it exists. RedFez |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Bri Date: 29 Apr 99 - 12:03 AM Nope, guys, ACTUALLY under 18!! :o) I figured I was the youngest here, probably, but it's interesting anf fun and I wondered if any gyus close to my age were interested in folk too. |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: katlaughing Date: 29 Apr 99 - 12:25 AM Why thank you, Rick. Bet, how 'bout it? Shall we? Course, he's probably right, Caroline and Heather'd give us the lowdown and then, oh well, I'll keep the fantasy going....mmmmmm. Oh, Rick, I guess ya ain't heard nothin' yet. I once had a girlfriend who asked me to call her boyfriend, who'd never met me, and sing him my sexiest happy birthday. Turns out he was so smitten with the voice he just HAD to meet me! It was a lot of fun and rmembered for quite awhile, if I do say so m'self!No, he didn't leave her for me. I was an old married womon with three kids! Bri, welcome and I'm sure there are some out there your age, and if not, well when I was 21, my boyfriend was 20 yrs older, so...wait a couple of yrs?**Big grin** kat |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: alison Date: 29 Apr 99 - 12:28 AM Hi, For those of you who haven't been here long enough to remember our How old is a Mudcatter thread...... we did have a few youngsters. (warning there are 177 entries in that thread.. may take a while to load.) I don't know about the looking for romance side of it, (but Big Mick and Joe... don't stop trying... this cyber flirting is fun..).... but Mudcat is certainly a great place for making some really good friends.... there are people here who I feel I have known all of my life... and who genuinely seem to love and care about others who they have never met, and may never actually meet in person. What a great place......... Slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Bev Lawton Date: 29 Apr 99 - 05:09 AM Wow Cat you have us Taureans off to a tee : >>So, you're a Taurus like my son, Colin, and my dad. >>Stubborn, bullheaded, kind, softie, hardworker, >>gorgeous, intelligent, sensitive.....any other >>additions? How about ...generous, musical, lyrical,loving , modest! My birthday is 4th May (56 model) so how do I get on this birthday database then? Bev lawton
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Zorro Date: 29 Apr 99 - 05:48 AM How about single but not lonely? I like the idea of personalizing songs by putting the names of folks in the audience. I use to do that at The Boiling Pot in Rockport Texas. I played out on the patio for the folks waiting for a tables. I remember a little girl who was there with her grandparents for her birthday. She was all of seven years old. I sang Shady Grove for her and used her name Susie Ann instead of Shady Grove in the song and she loved it. So did the g/p's. Also, in Frozen Logger I ask for an occupation and use it instead of logger. It becomes fun when you get something like Astrological Engineer.. Peace....... Z |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: hank Date: 29 Apr 99 - 08:47 AM Guilty as charged... I'm too shy to accually ask anyone out though, so I'll stay this way. (Or should I say I don't know anyone worth getting over my shyness for) No, I have no interest in meeting someone on mudCat. I'm living proof that people on the internet are very different in person. Besides, my cat has got me (it would be misspeaking to say it the other way around as anyone with a cat knows) |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: katlaughing Date: 29 Apr 99 - 09:34 AM Hi, Bev, forgot to mention my nephew is a Taurus, too! Then there's four Aires girls, my sisters and me!! I don't know how mom and dad dealt with that! I liked your additions; they are true, too. Look for the birthday thread and list yourself in it or send a message to bbc, she's the one who volunteered ot collect and maintain, kind of. Thanks BBC! Hank, I am SURE your cat appreciates your honesty or, was he/she holding you by the throat with claws extended, so you had no choice?*grin* katlaughing |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Lowcountry Date: 29 Apr 99 - 10:38 AM You know, that's a good question. I CAN'T sing when I'm lonely: my heart won't work. |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Cara Date: 29 Apr 99 - 12:11 PM I still want to know who the Mudcatters were on the date in NYC? Because being single and lonely, I haven't much else to wonder about.... |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: SeanM Date: 29 Apr 99 - 12:25 PM I guess I'm lucky... I'm single, and occasionally lonely. Our group tends to go for the comic attack on the love songs... we're all guys, and before our big 'passionate' love song, we announce that before we sing, we're going to strike our 'romantic' poses... on the count of three we do...various poses such as begging on our knees, flashing large amounts of money, lewdly throwing comic winks, whatever works. We find that this somehow makes the sappy song following it a bit more acceptable to the audience. Almost as if by throwing the big 'we're not serious' at the audience, they are more willing to take the song seriously. People confuse me... M |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Art Thieme Date: 29 Apr 99 - 02:50 PM Good folks, gettin' back to the music: I've always felt that, to a greater or lesser extent, ALL SONGS ARE LOVE SONGS. It might take a bit of reading-'tween-the-lines to see it, but they are. Some are about politics or people or animals or war or anti-war or civil rights---but they are usually pointing a loving finger at a person or an idea or a situation. Sometimes they are anti-love of something, but that's still "for" something---even if it's against something else.
Case in point: I used to do a "love medley". I'd start with the chorus to "Careless Love" and go into "Frankie & Johnny"--then "Careless Love" chorus again--- then "My Sweetheart's A Mule In the Mine" ---then the chorus to "Careless Love" again--then "The Old Lady That Loved A Swine"--- "Careless Love" chorus again, then "Rye Whisky" & "C.L." then "No More Booze" & "C.L."---then "Cocaine" & "C.L." (many possibilities: "Last Night I Had The Strangest Dream", "I Hate War And So Does Elanore", "The Death Of Harry Simms", "John Henry", "Barbara Allen"-------and I'd always end with "Father oh Father"
Father, oh dear father, I hope that you don't care,
Daughter, oh dear daughter, you're gonna have to find another, (goes through several possible husbands with the same result. Then she tearfully goes to her mother.)
Mother,oh, dear mother--lord I am undone,
Daughter, oh, dear daughter go ahead and take your vow, (Of course, that's followed by "CARELESS LOVE") Love to you all, Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Joe Offer Date: 29 Apr 99 - 03:07 PM Is "Father oh Father" a Child Ballad, Art? I know we've had threads on similar songs, but I think I'd need a fuzzy search to find 'em. -Joe offer, single but never lonely- Click here for a new thread on "Father o Father" |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Frank in the swamps Date: 29 Apr 99 - 04:03 PM I ain't single, and I really ain't lonely, but I still got a powerful hankerin' to git a hold of Harpgirl and go a trottin' along the Santa Fe on a moonlight night. Frank i.t.s. |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Valentine (inactive) Date: 29 Apr 99 - 06:35 PM Every song a love song? Something to be said for that. Jerry Rasmussen (long may he wave!) set up a workshop at a festival once called "Love without romance," one of my favorite workshop titles. It was for songs about loving anything except a romantic lover -- a town, a boat, a sport, an old hat, whatever. Now thanks to Art I have to wonder if all songs fit in that workshop. (It'll be awfully long if they do.)
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Matthew B. Date: 29 Apr 99 - 07:04 PM Cara - Why do you "still want to know who the Mudcatters were on the date in NYC?" Do you live in NYC too? - Matthew |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: bet Date: 29 Apr 99 - 07:50 PM Glad to hear that many of you single people aren't loney! I'm not either. I figure that if I get that way it will be my own fault and I'll need to change things then if that happens. Right now I can't possibly see how it could happen I still have many, many things I want to do with my life, hills to climb, song to sing, people to see, clouds to float on and oh yes, spoil my grandson! bet |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Matthew B. Date: 29 Apr 99 - 07:58 PM Don't assume that everybody who's written on this thread is single. We're just reeeeeaal friendly |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: SeanM Date: 29 Apr 99 - 08:01 PM I'm not. I wanna grow up to be a curmudgeon! Always loved that word... CURMUDGEON! CURMUDGEON! CURMUDGEON! Shoulda mentioned 'we're occasionaly silly as well...' Probably shouldn't be posting at the end of the workday, but oh well... M |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: katlaughing Date: 29 Apr 99 - 08:09 PM M, you and my old dog whopassed away this year! He used to cuss me out so bad, worse than the teens ever were! I was always calling him the Ole' Curmudgeon! Cleveland Armory wrote a book abotu a cat with that in the title if remember correctly. It is a grand word! kat |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: bbc Date: 29 Apr 99 - 08:12 PM To Bev, Since I read this thread, I have added you to the birthday list. It is located at Mudcat Resources Sure hope I did that right & didn't embarrass myself! If you want to be on the email list as well, send me a note to tell me, either at my email address bbc's email or a personal message through Mudcat. Hope to hear from Bev & any others. It's handy to have email addresses & a birthday list. best, bbc |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Sandy Paton Date: 29 Apr 99 - 08:22 PM Let me warn you, Sean, being a full-fledged curmudgeon ain't all that easy! Takes a lot of energy to be grumpy, you know. F'rinstance: I just growled at two of my grandchildren 'cause they wanted to watch some VCR thing when they could have chosen to read a book! Harrumph! However, years of practice might make it a bit easier. I'm just getting started. Sandy (resident folk fogey) |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: bbc Date: 29 Apr 99 - 08:26 PM Well, I got one out of two; sorry about that! Second try to link to the website: Better, I hope?! bbc |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Art Thieme Date: 29 Apr 99 - 08:37 PM Curmudgeon is not a cat. It's a bottom dwelling mud dweller---actually a dogfish (not a catfish)--ie. "cur". It is, however, something like a mudcat so it does belong here. Art |
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Subject: RE: Single, Lonely Mudcatters From: Art Thieme Date: 29 Apr 99 - 08:41 PM Joe, No, I don't think there's a link to any Child ballad for "Father". It could be a "kid's" song--but not a child ballad. Art |
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