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Subject: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 03:06 PM

A post on the Russel Crowe thread suggested he'd make a good Vimes; I thought he was more like Carrot. But this gives me an idea: Whom would you cast in some of the most memorable Pratchett roles? Here is a starter:

Commander Vimes
Captain Carrot
Corporal Nobby Nobbs
Sergeant Colon
Sergeant Detritus
Lord Vetinari
Moist van Lipswig
CMOT Dibbler
Igor
DEATH
Mort
The Librarian
Ponder Stibbons
Rincewind

...and...

Granny Weatherwax
Nanny Ogg
Magrat
Tiffany Aching
Mrs Cake
Ysabell (Death's stepdaughter)


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 03:07 PM

Hit "enter" too soon - could a kind Mudelf move to BS please....


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Villan
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 03:14 PM

Captain Carrot - why Jasper Carrott of course
Corporal Nobby Nobbs - Nobby Stiles
The Librarian - John Conolly
Moist van Lipswig - George Papavgeris :-)


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 03:18 PM

CMOT must be George Cole in Arthur Daley mode:-)

Lord Vetenari - Alan Rickman`

Nanny Ogg - Pam Ferris (or, giving it a folky flavour, how about Norma Waterson;-) )

Death's voice could be none other than Christopher Lee

Simon Pegg could make a good Rincewind (Or Jasper Carrot in his younger days!)

Cheers

Dave


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 03:46 PM

Whoever plays the librarian will have to wear an orang-utan suit, so we're just talking about the voice, really..... who sounds good saying ook?

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:05 PM

Dunno - I think maybe Wayne Rooney could do it...

:D


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Anne Lister
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:28 PM

Rincewind - Mackenzie Crook, without a doubt.
Vimes - John Simm
Totally agree that Vetinari should be Rickman.
CMOT - David Tennant


Anne


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:57 PM

Inspired idea for a thread!

Yes, George Cole for CMOT Dibbler. Or maybe Dirty Den.

I assume we are allowed a time machine, so as to cast people from the past, or at prevous ages.

Alan Rickman is quite wrong for Vetinari, much too overtly sinister but with an air of a bungler about him which Vetinari is not. It would be a nice role for the young Leslie Phillips, a chance to play intelligence rather than folly, and the voice would work well. How about Peter Bowles?

Ysabell I think the young Fenella Fielding.

Nobby Nobbs could be Arthur Askey, or Charlie Drake, or Norman Wisdom.

I quite like the idea of Jackie Chan as Rincewind.

I think Detritus has to be Sylvester Stallone.

Igor is Baldrick!

I may be back with more thoughts on this....



Who will do Gaspode's voice?

Old Steptoe for Cohen the Barbarian.

Nanny Ogg is Irene Handle to the life.

Sergent Colon - Mike Read (the East Enders one)

Captain Carrot - the bloke who played the Russian boxer who lost in Rocky - playing way against type.

Magrat I think is Una Stubbs - she really could act.

Vimes is difficult, there has to be the big streak of street in him, yet the obsessive virtue.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 06:07 PM

I see Vimes played by Bob Hoskins... don't ask why, I just do.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 06:28 PM

If I'd ever got past chapter one of volume one, I might have some idea of what you're talking about.

Same thing happened with 'Harry Potter'. I've seen a couple of the films on telly - they were OK but also sort of persuaded me that I hadn't missed much in not reading the books. I suspect that the same could be true of Terry Pratchett.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 06:34 PM

As Lord Vetinari, nobody can beat Ian Richardson (Francis Urquhart in House of Cards) for my money.

Why not Alan Rickman for Vimes? He could swing it.

Detritus just has to be Arnold Schwarzenegger.

A young Rita Tushingham for Ysabell?
Robert Carlyle or Ewan McGregor for Mort.
Death could be Vincent Price.

Rincewind is Charles Hawtrey (the weakling in the Carry On films)

And CMOT Dibbler, surely, is Sid James!


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 06:38 PM

Chalk and cheese, Shimrod. The Harry Potter stories are for kids. The Terry Pratchett ones began masquerading as such, but they were always for adults. The pretense has been dropped now.

Harry Potter stories are about adventure. Terry Pratchet stories are about biting humour, taking the piss of everything and everyone that catches his attention, from mathematicians to filmmakers to police to religious fanatics, to ordinary folks' little quirks.

Rawlings made the millions, but Pratchet wrote the classics.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Anne Lister
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 07:44 PM

I enjoy both Harry Potter and Pratchett (and Philip Pullman - and Ursula le Guin - and Dorothy Dunnett - and lots more besides). The great thing about music and literature is you don't have to choose just one writer to love. But it seems odd to join a thread about casting novels which you haven't read!

In terms of living actors, I'm sticking to Rickman as Vetinari. He hasn't got a bungling bone in his body (apart from the Die Hard villain) and he can act anyone else off the stage. I'm basing this comment on watching him in action in the film studio (as Snape) in comparison with Kenneth Branagh and anyone else around - the man has krisma!

Anne


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 07:57 PM

Couple of good ones there George. Sid James - love it! David Jason could do it too (remember him in Porterhouse Blue"?). Likewise Richardson for Vetinari. Must blow the rest out of the water.

But, no, Schwarzeneger is too capable for Detritus. It has to be Stallone. Schwarzenegger can be the bad werewolf in the one about the fat meteor.

I'm not sure we've got Carrot right yet. Who was the good bodybuilder in "A kid for two farthings"?


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: HuwG
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 07:58 PM

Corporal Nobby Nobbs would have to be played by Andy "Gollum" Serkis, though the images would have to be a little less benign. Only Rickman could be Vetinari - I recall seeing him play the Reverand Obadiah Slope in the BBC adaptation of Trollope's "The Warden" and "Barchester Towers", and have never seen anything quite so machiavellian.

Christopher Lee has voiced "Death" several times.

My other recommendations: Timothy West for Sergeant Fred Colon, and his wife Prunella Scales (with a bit of padding) for Lady Vimes (nee Ramkin).

See Internet Movie Database for cast list for "Hogfather", see what the industry has already come up with.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 07:58 PM

Vimes! I have it! Alec Guinness (if he could lose the RADA accent) - imagine his flawed conscience from the "Bridge over the River Kwai"!


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 08:02 PM

Mort is wotsisname from Some Mothers do 'ave 'em - Frank Spencer (character)


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 08:04 PM

Lady Vimes - Geraldine James


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 08:13 PM

Been on IMdB - David Jason is good as Albert, too.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: folk1e
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 08:58 PM

They are in the process of making the second Pratchet film (can't remember which at the moment)
How about Tony Blair as CMT Dibbler,
or following the political theme how about Prescot as either the Librarian (no speaking) or Detrius (little speaking).
Jeramy Paxman would be a good Vetinari and Billy Piper could play Anguna, carrots love interest/ Weirwolf.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Fred Maslan
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 09:00 PM

If we can take actors from the past then Lynn Redgrave from the 60's for Sybil Vimes. I see Rickman an too big for Vetinari although he could probably pull it off. And Andy Serkis would be perfect for the Librarian, though if I were him I would resist the typecasting. I still would go for Russel Crowe for vimes.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Walrus
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 10:24 PM

Just a few suggestions - unfortunately several are dead or, by now, too old.

Voice of DEATH - Christopher Lee (or Valentine Dyall)
Vimes - Clint Eastwood (in Dirty Harry mode) has been suggested eleswhere
Carrott - Dolf lungren has the build but not the charisma
Nobby Nobbs - Russell Hunter (the bloke who played 'Lonely' in the series 'Callan - for those old enough to remember)
The ArchChancellor of UU - Brian Blessed (Comes complete with own beard and bellow)
Bursar - Alan Bennett
Dibler - I think Sid James could carry it off
Colon - Bill Fraser
Magrat - Jan Horrocks ('Bubble' in Ab Fab)
Rincewind - Rowan Atkinson
Nanny Ogg - Joan Sims
Voice of Gaspode - Jon Culshaw
"...Been on IMdB - David Jason is good as Albert, too..."
I've always seen Albert as Wilfred Bramble (Albert Steptoe)

Walrus


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 10:26 PM

Billy Bob Thornton as The Luggage


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Sooz
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 03:32 AM

I want to be Granny Weatherwax!


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 03:37 AM

Can't blame you, if I wasn't a bloke I would want to be her! Spunky lady.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Villan
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 04:18 AM

Oh no Anything but Sooz being Granny Weatherwax :-)


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 04:21 AM

Granny Weatherwax is a very hard one to cast - there has to be the power, but without grandeur, and the tragedy of her unconsummated love in her youth for Mustrum Ridcully. Glenda Jackson or Helen Mirren? Maybe Vanessa Redgrave (again, if she can lose the RADA accent).

No, George, you don't want to be her, she's a virgin remember?

Maybe Daryl Hannah for Angua.

LTS for Perdita?

And Twoflower? If you don't like Jackie Chan for Rincewind, how about him for Twoflower?

And you can't have Wilfred Bramble for Albert, he is Cohen the Barbarian to the life.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 04:30 AM

You want me to be Perdita? I wonder why that could be?

(smirk)

LTS


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 05:27 AM

How about Magrat, LTS?
WOW, inspiration: Kenneth Williams for Death Of Rats.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 07:29 AM

Actually, now I think of it, the Muscles from Brussels for the bad boy werewolf,

Schwarzenegger for Chrysoprase.

It's the (alleged) voice, LTS...

Felicity Kendall for Cheery Littlebottom


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Ernest
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 08:34 AM

Margaret Rutherford for Granny Weatherwax - or rather Nanny Ogg?

Hard to deceide...


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 09:25 AM

Funny, something ate a post.

Mr Teatime - is it Stephen Berkov, or Boris Karloff?

Moist von Lipwig I think could be Dickie Attenborough or Alec Guinness.

I haven't yet found a part for Jack Hawkins or Lou Ferrigno...


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 09:33 AM

Mr Tulip is Michael Caine.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 09:37 AM

What about Eskarina - my favourite character after Gaspode?


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:00 AM

James Earl Jones for Death. Has to be.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:21 AM

Ah-hah - that give me an idea for Vimes - is it Tommy Lee Jones who is the hard man in Men in Black and Fugitive (notthe TV prog, the film)?


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:25 AM

I do believe so.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Ernest
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 01:58 PM

So many postings and no one suggested a role for Shatner...Little Hawk, where are you?

And I suggest Sean Bean for Vimes - there are some similarities (low upbringing, career in service) between Vimes and Sharpe...


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 02:19 PM

Shatner can play whassisname - Death's servant that only has a coupole seconds left to live if he shows up in the "real" world.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 04:20 PM

Albert. No, quite unsuitable.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 04:22 PM

Yea - James Earl Jones has my vote for Death as well!

Agree with whoever said Wilfred Bramble for Albert.

Some of the new (and old) Last of the Summer Wine characters slot in but I can't quite figure out who does what - Apart from Burt Kwok who has do do anyone Chinese (or Agatean)!

Stick to my guns on Rickman - he can do sinister realy well.

How about Prince for Buddy?

Keep 'em coming!

:D


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 04:25 PM

Oh - Spike Milligan for the Bursar.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 04:26 PM

shatner's unsuitable for any role - but if he played Albert - well, we probably wouldn't have to see much of him.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 05:39 PM

Patricia Routledge as Sybil Vimes?

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 05:49 PM

Rowan Atkinson as Rincewind.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 05:52 PM

Gerard Depardieu as Detritus....

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 07:38 PM

Good choices Kitty, I see where you're coming from. Depardieu for Detritus - excellent.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Fred Maslan
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:17 PM

Sean Bean would make a good Vimes. the problem with casting Carrot is that he is a red headed greek god with charisma. Just doesn't call up a real person. And then there is the problem of Nobby. remember he has to carry a certificate to prove he is human.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 02:15 AM

Yep, Sid James then for Nobby.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Ernest
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 02:58 AM

How about Danny de Vito for Nobby Nobbs?


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 03:39 AM

Patricia Routledge only does common striving to be middle class. Lady Vimes is the real thing. Now what's the name of the woman from "To the Manor Born" and "the Good life"? Good actress too. They could give her a fat suit for the physical attributes.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 05:18 AM

Penelope Keith is who you mean.

I see Caroline Quentin as Lady Vimes - she can be remarkably cultured when she wants to be.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Walrus
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 05:37 AM

I must disagree with Milligan for Bursar - he's not nervous and put-upon enough.
Milligan could carry off Cohen or, at a pinch Albert, but not the Bursar (he just doesn't look like a man that gets bellowed at on a regular basis).

How about Edward Woodward as Dr. Downey (of the Assassin's Guild).

W


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Santa
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 08:24 AM

I see Nicholas (? - Rodney the plonker) as Rincewind.

Rickman is too charismatic and "forward" for Vetinari, but how about as the villain from Going Postal?

Carrot is difficult - maybe Kevin Costner, but perhaps a bit too old?

Keep the girl who did Susan in the TV Hogfather.

Agree Brian Blessed as Ridcully.

I see John Tams as one of the wizards - maybe even Vetinari, with a trim and hair dye.

Tom Cruse as King of the Dwarfs - or is that naughty?

Off the wall perhaps: Michelle Pfeiffer as Weatherwax.

But who is going to be Adora Belle Dearheart?


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 10:17 AM

Dr Downey - now who was the sinister gang boss (on the inside) in Porridge? Gimlet eyes!


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 12:19 PM

That would be Grouty, can't remember his name either but he'd be a good choice.

Nicholas Lyndhurst is the one you were thinking of for Rincewind, but he's a bit plumper and less put upon now. I'd cast a non-actor in that part - I'd have Michael Rosen the poet. He has that same sort of hunted air about him.

Frank Bruno would make a good Chrysophase, so long as he doesn't have to speak.

Rickman would make a good voice for Gaspode the WonderDog.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 12:37 PM

woody allen for rincewind


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 02:11 PM

No, Woody Allen for the bursar. He's got the hunted look down to a T.

I was re-reading some Pratchett last night and if you think about the way Rincewind ducks, weaves, runs, gags, etc, it HAS to be Jackie Chan. Which makes casting Twoflower a problem.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Santa
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 05:51 PM

Sean Bean isn't old and tired enough for Vimes, but might make Carrot.

No suggestions for Otto? Clarissa? Leonard of Quirm? Colon?


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 06:29 PM

Robin Williams as Rincewind. I think Alan Rickman could play everybody else, including Gaspode's voice.
Al Pacino as Vetinari maybe.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 06:41 PM

Otto - Leonard Nimoy.


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From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 06:44 PM

Leonard of Quirm - Patrick Moore


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From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 06:45 PM

Maybe Lou Ferrigno could do Carrot, with the right makeup. He used to do sensitive in the Amazing Hulk.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 06:48 PM

Gottit, yes, I've got Carrott, at last. Johnny Weismuller. (Tarzan)


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 06:49 PM

And that makes Angua Fay Wray.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 07:10 PM

Rule #1: Actor has to be alive (unless playing a zombie or vampire)

That lets out Weismuller. I like George's suggestion of Russell Crowe as Carrot, but he'd want too much money.

Whoopi Goldberg as Granny Weatherwax.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Fred Maslan
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 07:51 PM

Sybil Is not Fat!! She is generously endowed, actually, if we could bring back Margaret Dumont she would be perfect.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Walrus
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 10:08 PM

"...Rule #1: Actor has to be alive (unless playing a zombie or vampire)..."

Here! You can't go slapping on rules like that at this stage of the game!

Perhaps after this thread breake the 100 (or 150) barrier, it might be possible to produce a 'practical' list (all actors alive as they are today) and an 'ideal' list (any, alive or dead at their prime or the appropriate age).

How about the late Charles Grey (the crimanologist in 'Rocky Horror Picture Show') as Dr. Downey ?

Walrus


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 10:22 PM

Maybe we should do up a realistic live cast and a separate dead one. Or not. If we're letting dead people play roles, I think Basil Rathbone would be a good Vimes. Carel Struycken (not dead) would be a good DEATH, but he doesn't have The Voice. It's hard to speak in upper case all the time!

Charles Grey - the guy with no neck? Sounds good to me.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 03:10 AM

Only Christopher Lee has ever managed to sound as if he were speaking in upper case all the time. James Earl Jones would be Deaths' Boss - the one who has a single word to say that takes up the entire page in bold - and even then it might need a tweak with a voicebox.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 03:48 AM

I postulated very early on that we were allowed a tme machine.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 07:10 PM

Been re-reading the Pratchetts (starting at the beginning).

Cohen the Barbarian is DEFINITELY Wilfred Bramble.

Ysabell is equally definitely the young Fenella Fielding.

I am worried about Death. There is an element of uncertainty, of doubt, of wistfulness that we are not capturing here yet.

I still really like Jackie Chan for Rincewind - despite "Some Mothers do 'ave em" I don't really think Michael Crawford has the moves (and he'd be better as Mort, or King thingamjig).

But that does make casting TwoFlower really hard.

Windsor Davies might make a decent fist of Jackrum.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Les from Hull
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 08:12 PM

I did see Paul Darrow (Avon in Blakes 7) as Vimes in a stage production. He was very good.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 08:18 PM

Avon? Amazing. He'd have been a good Vetinari. Blake could have done Vimes.

What about the young Hayley Mills for Eskarina?


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: harpmolly
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 12:18 AM

Well, I couldn't get them all, but here's what I could think of:

I actually think Jackie Chan would be an inspired choice for Twoflower. Or else, if you wanted someone younger (though I guess not, since he has a daughter), Masi Oka of the new US show "Heroes" would be brilliant--his character essentially IS Twoflower. :)

Commander Vimes - maybe too sexy, but Daniel Craig?

Captain Carrot - buff him up a bit and I think Ewan McG. could hit this one out of the park.

Corporal Nobby Nobbs - I agree, Andy Serkis would be PERFECT.Lord Vetinari - Much as I adore Alan R., he's not as angular as he used to be. If we had the A.R. of "Robin Hood" perhaps.

Igor - which one? ;)

DEATH - gotta agree with Christopher Lee.

Ponder Stibbons - Michael Sheen? He was so endearing in "Heartlands"...


Granny Weatherwax - if we can count the deceased, I would actually say Katharine Hepburn. Her beauty could be made pretty severe, and she had that no-bullshit air about her. I think she'd be a perfect practitioner of Headology. ;)

Nanny Ogg - I know she's way too young, but for some reason Brenda Blethyn springs to mind. I think it's her portrayal of the super-flooze Mari Hoff in "Little Voice".

Magrat - I was a little disappointed in Jane Horrocks' Mag. in the animated "WS", because I'm a huge fan of hers. But none of the voices in that really made me happy, and I think it may have been the direction rather than the acting.

Tiffany Aching - hmm. For the earlier books, let's see how this Dakota Blue Richards girl turns out (the Golden Compass/HDM films).


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Santa
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 06:52 AM

The problem with permitting dead actors is that Alec Guiness could play all of the male roles and the elder females too. Olivier could play the more posturing ones (and others too, to be fair).

My wife suggests Maggie Smith for Weatherwax.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: harpmolly
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 11:22 AM

YES!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 08:44 PM

How about Joanna Lumley for Lady Sybil?

LTS


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Walrus
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 10:08 PM

I always think of Lady Sybil as being somewhat more Junoesque
Penelope Keith certainly has the height
Perhaps the woman in the British TV version of 'Life and Loves of a She Devil' (Julie something) may work.

Any recommendations for the Agony Aunts?

W


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 09:53 AM

Whassername that plays Alice the Verger in Vicar of Dibley could do a good Magrat as well I reckon. Has Dolph Lungren been mentioned as Carrot? He did a good He-Man:-)

Victoria Wood as anyone her age and shape!

:D


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 10:37 AM

Oh - and I think whoever it was may have meant Patricia Routledge, Liz - Mrs Bouquet from Keeping up Appearances. I think she would make a good Sybil but I wouldn't be able to see Vimes without imagining the long suffering Richard:-)

Talking of Sybil - How about Prunella Scales?

Mind you, John Cleese wouldn't work as Vimes!

:D


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Raedwulf
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 04:19 PM

But who is going to be Adora Belle Dearheart? Instantly I saw Lauren Bacall, for some reason.

Christopher Lee for Death, has to be.

Can't believe you're arguing about Vimes. He started out as Dirty Harry - it *has* to be Clint Eastwood (& yes, the man can act more than enough to encompass the way Sam has grown).

Can't argue with Geraldine James (Blott on the Landscape anyone?) for Lady Ramkin.

Katherine Hepburn would be a superb Granny W. (but Brian Blessed feels wrong as Ridcully - not big enough & too hammy).

I can go with Sid James for Nobby Nobbs, but Dibbler ought to be "Del Boy" David Jason. Nicholas Lindsay as Rincewind isn't perfect, but the best of the suggestions so far.

Alec Guinness beats Rickman for Vetinari in my book. Rickman isn't spare/spartan/economical enough, call it how you will (& I think Rickman is a genius!), in physique or manner.

Rickman, perhaps, for Greebo. Or Sean Bean. Or me!

Oliver Hardy for The Dean? Doesn't quite work, but no-one else has mentiond The Dean. There must be a part for Stan Laurel too, but he's halfway between The Bursar & Ponder Stibbons, for me. Lon Chaney for whatshisname, the old zombie git in the bath chair.

A young George Clooney for Victor Maraschino of Moving Pictures (presuming that Errol Flynn is not available).


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Santa
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 05:27 PM

I hadn't thought of Greebo - Johnny Depp, surely?

Having raised the point about Adora - I do like the thought of Lauren Bacall.

You mean that Ridcully isn't hammy? Not with you there.

I had the Dean when I started that last sentence......it wasn't Alan Rickman, but now I've thought of it, he could do it......I know, I know! Shatner!

I suppose someone will suggest Nimoy for Vetinari now.

For Ponder Stibbons, I keep seeing Michael Redgrave as Barnes Wallis in the Dam Busters. A bit too old, though.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 08:08 PM

Nimoy is a superb actor - and I want to put him in somewhere, but I have not got it right yet.

I think Clint Eastwood (from the early "Rawhide" days) might be better as Greebo - Greebo has to be big and to have that catlike grace. If you just want burly and evil maybe the young Oliver Reed, but he always had trouble with grace.

What's the name of that Irish actor who does the sinister psychotic undercover policeman (and the hammy TV ads for yellow pages)? He might be good for Vimes - and he is small enough too. Don't forget Vimes has to collapse under the weight of Lady Vimes (pre-wedding) when rescuing her from the dragon.

The fat tenor (is it Harry Sugg?) - Rik Waller surely (or Meatloaf).

What about David Suchet for Dr Downey? Or he could probably do the trick of disappearing so as to be Moist Von Lipwig.   Another wholly superb actor.

I am however amazed that there are those who dispute the casting of Vetinari - it simply HAS to be Ian Richardson.

When we get to "Soul Music" I have an acting role for Pete Docherty!

Maybe Roy Kinnear for the Dean?

Off to continue the re-reading now....


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: harpmolly
Date: 04 Nov 07 - 01:15 AM

Sean Bean as Greebo...are you trying to kill me??? Someone draw a bath with ice cubes, please.

Ooh, Adora Belle, what a juicy role. Jodie Foster. *grin*She can do sexy yet hardened integrity like no one else I know.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 04 Nov 07 - 02:30 AM

Greebo for me has always been Sean Connery... Don't know why.. it's just whenever I read any of the Greebo bits, Sean Connery sounds in my head.

I think it's the seducing all the ladies and beating up the men bit from the Bond movies that does it. And it would have to be him in his 'Goldfinger' days at the ball when he's turned into a human.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario
Date: 04 Nov 07 - 06:59 PM

Micca (au natural) as the "wild" Santa - which is captured to become hogfather ...or am I in the wrong series....hmmmm, I'm pretty sure that chase and capture scene is in Pratchett.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Nov 07 - 12:42 AM

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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Rumncoke
Date: 05 Nov 07 - 09:45 AM

If we can have a time machine, it has to be Hattie Jaques as Sybil Ramkin.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST,redhorse
Date: 05 Nov 07 - 02:13 PM

Richard E Grant as Moist von Lipwig

Don Henderson as Vimes?


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Fred Maslan
Date: 06 Nov 07 - 10:01 AM

For detritus, current IFBB mr Olympia Jay Cutler, Imp the bard Orlando Bloom, Susan Renee Zellweger.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST,sam
Date: 06 Nov 07 - 03:18 PM

what about wolfgang or the baron from the fifth elephant???


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: harpmolly
Date: 06 Nov 07 - 11:44 PM

What about our boy Johnny Depp for Moist VL? I think he'd be hilarious. He's got that combination of goofiness and gravitas. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Nov 07 - 02:48 AM

Wolfgang - the muscles from Brussells.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Fred Maslan
Date: 07 Nov 07 - 10:08 AM

Johnny Depp would be great in about half the roles. I can even see him doing a great Vetinari


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 07 Nov 07 - 06:30 PM

I have a sneaking feeling that David Tennant would make a good Moist VPL or whatever he's called... I think it's the eyes.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Walrus
Date: 07 Nov 07 - 08:57 PM

Gary Oldman (in 'Dracula' mode) in a cameo role as Otto the photographer?

W


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: CET
Date: 07 Nov 07 - 09:11 PM

I'm going to stick with live actors, I think.

I think most of the characters need to be played by Brits, or at least actors who can convincingly portray Brits. There is no escaping the fact that Terry Pratchett is writing about the British (and particularly the English). Therefore, I just can't see Clint Eastwood as any of the main characters, certainly not Vimes.

I can certainly see Sean Bean as Vimes. He doesn't come across as too young - more like cynical, mature and tough.

Depardieu as Detritus - you'd have to get past the accent, and I think you'd need somebody even bigger. Schwarzenegger has the physique, but the accent would be a problem.

I think Alan Rickman would be a great choice for Vetinari. Personally, though, I would prefer James Purefoy who played Marc Antony on the Rome series. Perhaps a bit buff, but he wouldn't be appearing in the nude, as he did on Rome in every other scene. He could certainly carry off the intelligence and menace required for the part. Don't forget, Vetinari is smooth as silk, but physically deadly and completely unscrupulous. I think Purefoy could do that even better than Rickman. Or, how about Patrick Stewart?

Brian Blessed would be an inspired choice for the Chancellor.

I can't think of any well known actor who is exactly right for Capt Carrot. He would have to be well over six feet tall, with a physique to match. I think you would have to have a special casting call.

You would have to consider Christopher Plummer for the role of Death.

Definitely Maggie Smith for Granny Weatherwax, but I could also see Cate Blanchett with the appropriate make up.

Edmund


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST,Santa
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 04:18 AM

I'm afraid that Brian Blessed no longer counts as a live actor.

There must be a role for Alan Titchmarsh, he's in everything else.

Carrot is difficult: how about Simon King, the wildlife presenter? I don't know if he can act, but he has the naive enthusiasm down pat. In which case Bill Oddie has to be found a role as one of the minor wizards.

Cate Blanchett would make the Queen of the Elves.

Ponder Stibbins is an intellectual Harry Potter, no? Problem solved. Or the actor who plays Michael in Robert Lindsay/Zoe Wannamaker's disfunctional family. Hmm. Perhaps there's a potential Magrat there, too?


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 10:39 AM

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From: MMario
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 10:41 AM

ook!


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 06:03 PM

I'm sure both Clive Owen abd Ray Winstone have a role to play but I'm not sure what. I'll think about it...

:D


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: harpmolly
Date: 09 Nov 07 - 02:01 AM

Cate as the Queen...I love it! Galadriel from Evil Mirror World! :D


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Fred Maslan
Date: 09 Nov 07 - 07:47 PM

I can't agree that all the possible actors should be british, after all Discworld may not even be in our universe. Not to mention the fact that the trolls all seem to speak brooklinese. (except of course Diamond)


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST,Corlia
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 11:22 AM

What about Simon Pegg from Hot Fuzz for Carrot?


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 05:45 AM

Carrot has already been cast and had his own series - the Mountie in 'Due South'. Think about it - the knowing everyone in the neighbourhood, unflinching good manners even in the heat of the chase, the doggedness, and underneath it all the feeling that he'll come out the winner.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST,Wyrd Sister
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 05:46 AM

...sorry, mi cookie's gone...


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Greyeyes
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 10:51 AM

Granny Weatherwax is clearly Liz Smith (Vicar of Dibley, Royle Family).


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Greyeyes
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 11:03 AM

Incidentally it's "The Colour of Magic" they are filming at the moment, David Jason is playing Rincewind. Blicky


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Greyeyes
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 11:05 AM

Or even Blicky


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 11:52 AM

Oh, no! David Jason is far too old and unathletic to do Rincewind. A young Michael Crawford might have done him.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Santa
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 01:50 PM

The one thing Rincewind is good at is running.

And who is going to play Ffahrd and the Grey Mouser - or whatever Pratchett called them in the book?


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 01:54 PM

Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 05:45 AM

Carrot has already been cast and had his own series - the Mountie in 'Due South'. Think about it - the knowing everyone in the neighbourhood, unflinching good manners even in the heat of the chase, the doggedness, and underneath it all the feeling that he'll come out the winner

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I think you have a point there, guest - too bad you didn't sign a name so we could give you credit for it.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Ernest
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 03:43 PM

I think Pete Postlethwaite (sp.?) deserves a role - how about Fred Colon?


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 04:26 PM

100+ posts and no mention of Anthony Hopkins?
Vetinari possibly, the calm, smooth manner, with an undercurrent of threat!

Rosie Palm: Billie Piper in her 'Belle de Jour' persona.


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 04:47 PM

There is no doubt.   Vetinari is Ian Richardson. It is perfect.

Hopkins could do either of the new Firm

Billie Piper does nothing but annoy me (as does the arrogance of the alleged call-girl demeaning the great film and book Belle de Jour by nicking the name)


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 05:32 PM

Thanks Mmario (1.54 pm)- if you check the next post you'll see I did 'fess up to the Carrot/Fraser!

To be really honest, it was my son who pointed it out. I think we watched the first series of 'Due South' arouind the same time Carrot was introduced. Since then I've not seen him as anyone else. Even to the 'human' wolf companion, now I think of it...


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Walrus
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 08:54 PM

Wyrd Sister,

I like the idea of Paul Gross (Benton Fraser) as Carrot (so, does that mean the dog 'playing' Deifebaker as Angua in Wolf form?)
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Richard Bridge,

I agree, David Jason is too old for Rincewind, the actor needs to be young and thin (he does spend his life running from everything).
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Ernest,

Pete Postletwaite as Colon? Oh No, he's totally the wrong shape. Colon is a middle aged man run to fat (at one point it is said that he fits his breasplate as a jelly fits a mould), perhaps William Simmons (Alf Ventress, the fat desk sergeant in 'Heartbeat' on TV) would be a better choice.
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Nigel,

I think Billie Piper too young for Rosie Palm (except, maybe in Night Watch), I think Siobhan Redmond [(Midwife in "Mary Shelley's Frankenstein"(1994), Kate Higgins in "Beautiful People" (1999)], might, IMHO, be a more suitable choice.
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Walrus


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Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 03:16 AM

Yes, Walrus, Ventress would be good as Colon. Apt casting is still escaping us on many of these.

Vimes himself is still elusive. Many have not remembered his despairing vulnerabilility when first introduced - a failing alcoholic. Others forget his revolutionary pride as descendant of regicide, and his stubborn reliance on cheap boots. Then there is his tenderness for Lady Ramkin/Lady Vimes. Again there is his "policeman's policeman" persona as he re-grows. And the acuteness as he starts to find his feet in Vetinari's world of somoke and mirrors, and the half-lies of inter-state diplomacy.

In some ways Clint Eastwood has already done most of these, but he is now too old actually to cast for the part. I have never seen Tennant manage the inner despair, nor, quite, the pride.


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