Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight

Subject: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Declan
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 03:07 PM

I've been looking forward to tonight's coverage from the Cambridge Folk Festival on TV tonight for ages.

It would appear that BBC4 has been removed from my Digital TV package by NTL without notice. Does anybody know if the program is or will be available On-Line.

I don't really want to hear anyone's opinions as to why I should not want to see the program. If anyone can help with a way I can get to watch the program tonight (or later) I'd be very grateful. I know it may show up eventually on Youtube, but I'd like to see it as it's broadcast if possible.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 03:12 PM

It's on terrestial innit?
G

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Declan
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 03:19 PM

Not listed for BBC1 or 2 for tonight where I live. I get BBC1 & BBC2 Northern Ireland

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 03:35 PM

If you have a neighbour who will lend you a digibox (and if you have an aerial) it is on freeview.

If you have a friend who is a computer nerd he may have a freeview dongle (a little USB stick that somehow both receives and converts teh freeview signal) - but I don't know how sensitive they are for dignal in marginal areas.

I don't know about the freeview reach into NI.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Whistlepenny
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 03:36 PM

Lots of great clips here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/cambridgefolkfestival/2007/artists/

And BBC4 music programmes are always shown on BBC2 eventually.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 05:01 PM

Just watched it, and it was great BUT. The presenters were lovably twee, Sharon Shannon just lovable, and Mike Scott was a fucking poseur/pratt with a great line in monotonous singing.
Giok

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Fliss
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 05:31 PM

Caught the tail end. Was it John Tamms on stage with the chap that had been asked to write the song..

Digital TV is no patch on Analogue, it keeps breaking up.

fliss

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Santa
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 05:38 PM

I watched it, isn't ntl now Virgin? That's what I get.

it looked like John Tams to me- or was it the guy in the "Taht's better" ad?

Next week looks better.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 05:53 PM

Nothing I much liked. I wonder why the boy with the two capos (similar setup I use, actually) played such an american sounding arrangement if it was supposed to be Celtic. The specially commissioned piece was rather dull, and the mix a bit curious.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 05:59 PM

The boy with the two capos is a Shetlander, from a family with an impeccable musical pedigree, and I enjoyed what he did, but was slightly bemused by his choosing it as a song to sing.
Giok

Google the name Drever

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Effsee
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 06:13 PM

Kris Drever? Orkney my dear Giok! Orkney. Son of Ivan.
Didn't see the prog, forgot it was on.
Not on terrestial as far as my RT shows.
Typical, they usually repeat the shows in the early hours of Sat...not this week.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Effsee
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 06:16 PM

BTW, anyone who missed Folk Brittania, who may be interested in seeing it, it's being shown on Sunday morning, BBC4, 00:40hrs...all 3 hours of it.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 06:38 PM

Orkney, I apologise, it's Friday and I am tired and emotional
G

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Declan
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 09:45 PM

I saw this stuff live at the festival.

The specially commissioned piece was about an hour long. So they coule only have shown a portion of it. It was far from dull, to my mind it was excellent. But then you'd need to be able to tell the difference between two tunes to appreciate it.

Kris Drever has a wide background in music and is well able to make his own choices of material, and would thankfully not be hung up on stupid labels. One of my favourite artists and a nice person too.

NTL in Ireland is about to become UPC, which I suspect is why they are changing the range of channels available. I'm going to have to review my subscription, but that is beyond the scope of this thread.

Freeview has not, to my knowledge made it to Ireland.

Unfortunately it would appear that the program is not available on-line, at least to the knowledge of those who have contributed so far. I'm very dissapointed in this.

If as is suggested it will show up on other channels, I'd appreciate it if people would alert me if they become aware of re-broadcasts.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 09:49 PM

After that fusillade, no!

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: GUEST,Rob Henderson
Date: 07 Nov 07 - 07:57 AM

I too missed the broadcast :( trying to find out if its repeated ATM. Will drop a post if i find out.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Nov 07 - 08:44 AM

I can't believe I said what I seem to have said. Has a post been deleted to which I might rather have been replying?

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Declan
Date: 07 Nov 07 - 01:07 PM

No Richard,

I think you were replying to my post, which was probably a bit over the top. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Declan
Date: 07 Nov 07 - 01:15 PM

By the way I also asked this question on the BBC Folk & Acoustic boards and was pointed to http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/last7days/?filter=txdate%3A02-11&filter=txslot%3Aev

Unfortunately I am not allowed to use the iPlayer because I don't live in the UK, but if you live there you may be. I think you will have to move quickly because the deadline is coming up soon.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Declan
Date: 07 Nov 07 - 01:22 PM

This link might work better.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: 8_Pints
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 07:39 AM

iPlayer registration for new user details not functional!

Only one day left to view - how frustrating!!!

Bob vG

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 09:43 AM

It doesn't like Firefox either.
G

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 09 Nov 07 - 04:13 PM

Not bad tonight. A very nice contemporary song from Martin Simpson, with his usual spectacularly precise fingerwork on the guitar - which was what? A Brook? Very nice trebles on it, but a bit more thud would have been nice. And KRusby singing the harmonies quite tastefully.

At risk of sounding like Mad Lizzie, Show of Hands were excellent too, singing "Roots". I know it's their song but I've only ever heard others do it until now. Powerful, passionate vocals.

Krusby's "Wild Mountain Time" was bland - and ever since that Scottish Tourist Board advert I have only been able to want to GO for it in 4/4 not the usual 3/4.

The One big Sky (or whatever) stuff I still found uninspiring.

Bellowhead are so frustrating - flashes of fiery moments - and all that crap in the background. I hate brass almost as much as I hate pianos (the exceptions being Bobby Key's wonderful underlying riff on the Stones "Bitch" and that silly pop song of a few years back with the hook line "Would you go to bed with me?")

Tams is usually great, but his featured song was bland again.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Nov 07 - 04:24 PM

Folk music was that?

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: greg stephens
Date: 09 Nov 07 - 04:26 PM

I only caught the last 3/4, but from what I saw it was a little thin on English trad music, considering it was billed as English folk night. Still, perhaps the use of Show of Hands song about people not singing English folk songs was ironic, as the show finished with Krusby singing the Wild Mountain Thyme (by McPeakes out of Tannahill).

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Santa
Date: 09 Nov 07 - 04:33 PM

What annoyed me was the BBC's inability to capture the audience singing, which was clearly so much a part of Show of Hands and Kate's piece - the latter was even mentioned in the interview. Both songs sounded much flatter than they clearly were at the time.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 09 Nov 07 - 05:35 PM

They'd usually be in trouble finding ANY English traditional folk music at Cambridge. That was about as close as it gets.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: GUEST,Frug
Date: 09 Nov 07 - 06:34 PM

Sounds as though the people's police are at large again !!

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 09 Nov 07 - 06:51 PM

So, Frug, do you know the difference, and when did you last find any there? Were you there when the club tent walked out on John Kirkpatrick, probably the God of English squeezers?

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Folknacious
Date: 09 Nov 07 - 08:16 PM

I thought Bellowhead were easily the best of the programme, but what shocked me was the audience standing there like rows of stuffed dummies (and not just for Bellowhead). When I saw Bellowhead at Sidmouth Dance House a few years ago the audience - average age much younger than the Cambridge one looked, admittedly - were going completely wild with outbreaks of spontaneous morris, people playing air fiddles and trombones and all sorts of madness. I've never been to Cambridge - are the crowd normally that staid?
I thought Kate Rusby came over as a nicer, more sensible person in interview than the usual ditzy cartoon northerner image she puts on when on stage (where I usually wish she'd sing more and talk less) and Martin Simpson was superb too. The Scottish woman interviewer (missed the credits) was also good.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: chucker
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:15 AM

Couldn't agree more with Folnacious, rows and rows of people just standing there....have seen Bellowhead three times this year and the audience were going mad at each show, it certainly looked liked there was no atmosphere at Cambridge (for any of the acts featured). Really enjoyed the Simpson song though, easily the highlight of the show.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Santa
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:38 AM

You could see the audience singing along with Kate Rusby and Steve Knightly - but the whole thing fell flat for the lack of mikes. No wonder no atmosphere came across on the screen. I suspect it would not have felt so flat at the time.

The postings above suggest you can't be having a good time without jumping about. Personally I don't quite see the need to rattle my brains when I'm having a good time, but each to their own.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: greg stephens
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 07:15 AM

Re GUEST FRug's comment about the people's police arriving. If commenting on English folk song in the context of a concert billed as English folk music makes you a member of the police, I am delighted to be counted among them. I would likewise comment if a concert billed as "Scottish Folk Night" had the climax as the Petabog Faeries and Shooglenifty on stage singing "Knocked'em in the Old Kent Road". I would feel quite at liberty to say"Hmmmm. Was that being a bit ironic then?"

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Folknacious
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 07:17 AM

Of course you can have a good time without jumping about, it's just that I've never seen an audience stand still at a Bellowhead gig, especially when doing that Fire Marengo. I almost wondered if they cut in the audience shots from another performance or performer, maybe them doing something more serious, or perhaps Kate Rusby singing a death ballad!

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 08:08 AM

Folknacious - "the Scottish woman interviewer" was Mary Ann Kennedy, folk singer & harp player, has also done quite a bit of work on BBC 4 folk music progs (music awards, 'Celtic Connections' etc)

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: Santa
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 08:21 AM

I was making coffee during Fire Marengo (no comment implied, it just worked out that way), but the audience clips from SoH and Kate did show people singing apparently the same words as the performers.

Mary Anne Kennedy is fine, but who was the male presenter? Or, perhaps, why?

OT, but did others enjoy the alpenhorn programme on before? We think we have trouble with folk police. Wonfderful programme.

Subject: RE: Cambridge Folk Festival BBC4 TV Tonight
From: GUEST,Chris Murray
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 02:46 PM

In answer to Folknacious, I think it depends what time of day it is. Bellowhead finished off the festival in the smaller tent. No-one was standing still then! They rocked. It was my highlight of the festival.

I thought SOH were good too. Sorry Lizzie!