review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 07:51 AM

Dave Polshaw-whats wrong with been fat and from hull then?

Anyway=dident you used to be Dave the Goblin or something?

Got nowt against goblins, just wondered what you changed name for. :-)

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: GUEST,Non Aligned Leftie
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 08:50 AM

It was a small bucket of water. Hardly a beating. So please Eric, calm down. Your actions may not be violent but your language sure as hell is.

I repeat my question: are you saying Mudcat is only for pacifists? Because if you dip below the line you'll see there's a hell of a lot of pro-war, pro-violence sentiments being expressed on this site. And we're talking support for a wear that involved mass killing of innocent Iraqi civilians at the behest of Prescott's chums' government, not a poxy bit of suit-dampening!

And try not to get personal, please.

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: Silver Slug
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 09:34 AM

I bet Chumbawamba would love this, talk about thread drift! I don't know the man personally but I dislike everthing about Prescott's public personna, from his political beliefs to the fact that he's Welsh (the EU had the right idea as far as I'm concerned). He deserves every bit of ridicule that comes his way, not to mention the odd bucket of water.

As for Chumbawamba, I have enjoyed everthing that I've heard from them lately and love 'Add Me,' the sentiments of which sum up the My Space, You Tube, Facebook phenomena.

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: the button
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 10:19 AM

Les in Chorlton wrote, "So, non-violent then?"

In this case, yes.

Thing is, we live in a society where political violence is the norm, but it's pretty much one way -- from the haves to the have-nots. Growing up in Yorkshire in the 80s, I remember the vanload after vanload of coppers going past the top of our street on their way to the M62 to get to the pits -- and I remember the political violence they dished out when they got there.

But of couse that's "law & order," isn't it? It's only "violence" when those who aren't supposed to start fighting back.

I remember also the Poll Tax riot -- I must've been (let me see...) 20 at the time. Great fun. Would I do it again? Probably not, but only because I'm not so sure I could outpace the OB nowadays. Ho ho.

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: Peace
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 10:22 AM

A general statement: "Feed them and they will come."

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 11:00 AM

Non Aligned Leftie, you haven't answered my questions, why ?

eric

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: Cath
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 11:35 AM

John Prescott is Welsh? That's news to me Silver Slug and I bet it's news to John.

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 11:40 AM

Born in Prestatyn.
As is pointed out every single time this incident comes up.

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: GUEST,The Mole Catcher's unplugged Apprentice
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 12:16 PM

"but I dislike ever(y)thing about Prescott's public personna, from his political beliefs to the fact that he's Welsh"

bet the BNP loves you Sluggo, me old sunshine

Charlotte (one quarter Welsh)

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: Silver Slug
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 12:59 PM

Sorry, it's a prejudice I picked up after spending an extremely wet week in Llandudno when I was 15. The place was miserable, the inhabitants were miserable and I was miserable. My old man had to drive 50 miles on Sunday so that he could a pint (pre breathalyser) and that made him so miserable that he insisted that I took my sister to watch an awful vaudeville show, where we were the youngest members of the audience by some 50 years.

I've never forgiven the Welsh but don't worry because I feel the same way about the Scots! Flanders and Swan had the right of it!

Still love Chumbawamba , by the way.

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 01:00 PM

We can do politics or talk about politics. When people do things they get things right and they get things wrong John and New Labour did both.

Yes the total power of the State, violent and otherwise, was used to destroy the Miners, who did they think they were taking on the EFDSS?

I seem to remember A Scargill failed to take the Notts Miners with him and led off on half a strike. That's life. But we can all talk ourselves to death because little follows from talk.

"I dislike everthing about Prescott's public personna, from his political beliefs to the fact that he's Welsh "

Well thanks for a clear statement. Would you care to add any other groups?

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: GUEST,The Mole Catcher's unplugged Apprentice
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 01:07 PM

He added the Scots...anyone else while you're at it?
I mean why stop there?

Charlotte (the view from Ma and Pa's piano stool)

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: Peace
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 01:14 PM

Poor guy ain't seen a Canuck winter.

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: Marje
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 01:19 PM

I'll link that remark about the Scots with an observation to bring this thread back on topic: yesterday there was a review of Chumbawamba in the Independent. The reviewer explained how they'd used samples of "English" folk singers in their records, citing Dick Gaughan and Belle Stewart among the examples.


Marje

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: 21st Century Bluesman
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 01:26 PM

Richard Bridge - No, the rider does not come out of the band's fee. It is an on-cost for the organiser.

Not true, the rider is often taken out of the act's fee.

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: GUEST,silver slug
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 02:06 PM

The French, can't stand them! I'll show my ignorance (even more of it) and ask what is a Canuck winter?

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: Peace
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 02:12 PM

Canadian winter.

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: GUEST,The Mole Catcher's unplugged Apprentice
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 02:31 PM

"what is a Canuck winter? "

Canadian winter:
when it's 45 to 50 degrees celsius below freezing, when the snow is piled high (there's actually a pile in Montreal that's currently 80 feet high, check Canadian news for that one). All this goes on for up to 5 months of the year... at least back east it does, on the west coast it's alot milder ;-)

Charlotte (doesn't have mukluks on)

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: GUEST,albert
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 02:41 PM

hey i am welsh and i started this thread and love chumbawamba!! as for prescott being welsh..totally irrelevant.But he is a warmonger and up to his neck in the Iraq debacle .
albert

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 02:46 PM

The world is run by those who turn up. If you don't like the way it is run, get you mates organised and turn up. Then it might be better.

You will need lots of mates and you will need to be well organised with short, long and medium term plans. You will need to decide what to do when the unexpected happens and what to do when you are simply wrong, because you will be sometimes.

We need you.

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: GUEST,the button (not at work)
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 03:02 PM

"The world is run by those who turn up."

I like that one. :-)

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 03:30 PM

It's a shame that those who turn up aren't a better cross section and that they often stop others from joining in

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: GUEST,Chris Murray
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 03:36 PM

As this discussion is entitled 'review:Chumbawamba' I'd quite like to know what people think of it. I love it.

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: GUEST,Non Aligned Leftie
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 03:45 PM

ERIC SEZ: "Non Aligned Leftie my arse, why are you here ? do you think it is OK for certain people to be assaulted ? as long as it's not you I suppose or your friends or relations. Why do you think it's OK ? will it be OK if I come round to your town and assault you ?"

ERIC LATER SEZ: "Non Aligned Leftie, you haven't answered my questions, why ?"

Let's start with the easy one, a starter for ten, ok? Why haven't I answered your question? Because I have a teeny weeny suspicion you don't really want me to. Am I right? Or is it 'nil point'?

Now to the others.

1. I don't know why your arse is here. So you don't fall off chairs when you sit down, presumably.
2. Personally I wouldn't assault anyone without extreme provocation. That's because I'm revoltingly forgiving. Prescott wasn't assaulted though. He was rendered slightly wet. By his own admission he's done far worse himself.
3. Neither I nor any of my friends or relations are powerful political figures. So no, I don't think it's ok to assault us. I also don't think it's ok to assault John Prescott. The odd egg or custard pie (or at the really limp end of le politique slapstique, the odd champagne bucket half full of water) is an occupational hazard. It's only assault in the way your head hitting the pillow is also assault. Some would merely call it commentary.
4. Why is it ok? Who are you again? Jeremy Paxman? John Prescott's mum? Anyway, actual assualt isn't usually ok. However, if John Prescott came steaming down the road at me in a bulldozer with a dagger between his teeth, a sharp tap to the back of the head might be in order. For instance.
5. No it won't be ok. Sounds like you might want to. Thankfully, you don't know where I live. However, if I ever start a war, feel free to pelt me with random bits of dinner and liquid (preferably Wychwood Hobgoblin, but give me fair warning so I can crank open my mouth as wide as possible).

Hope that answers your series of questions to your complete satisfaction and enjoyment.

NAL

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 04:35 PM

Aye jOhn - I used to be Dave the Goblin but I cahnged it because I shared a middle name with too many reprobates on here:-)

I've nowt at all against Fat blokes (I am one) or the good town of Kingston upon Hull. Can't stand Johnny two jags though.

Eric - I apologise. I said it wouldn't work. It has. You have suceded on burying your earlier very ill informed statement in amongst a load of twaddle about Prescotts human rights.

Well done.

:D

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 13 Mar 08 - 03:50 AM

No Non Aligned Leftie, I wouldn't dream of doing you any harm whatsoever, nor anyone else unless they were threatening me or mine with violence.

Personally I also can't stand John Prescott or his corrupted idea of labour politics but I wouldn't assault him either.

eric

Subject: RE: review: Chumbawumba (Chumbawamba)
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 21 Apr 08 - 07:23 PM

i just got there new cd, iys really nice.