Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum

Subject: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: sapper82
Date: 30 Mar 08 - 09:48 AM

Crich Tramway Museum is having its third Folk Weekend on Sunday the 4th and Monday the 5th of May this year.
Heading the bill is Julie Felix.
Details here

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: My guru always said
Date: 30 Mar 08 - 04:01 PM

This sounds really good, but unfortunately we'll be at Upton.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: foggers
Date: 30 Mar 08 - 07:17 PM

Yeah I saw that, but we will be at Whitby Moor & Coast - pity cos as a Derbyshire lass I do like to support local folk activities - but I just can't be in two places at once(damn!)

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 31 Mar 08 - 05:43 AM

Sounds interesting but I cannot find any details other than J Felix is appearing.

Anyone else?

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Ian
Date: 31 Mar 08 - 11:27 AM

Be sure to visit the RED LION PUB on site which was for many years the home of Stoke Folk club.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: sapper82
Date: 20 Apr 08 - 07:54 AM

Just to bump it up to remind persons

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Mr Happy
Date: 20 Apr 08 - 08:07 AM

On June the 14th 2008 a special concert is being held at the Sage in Gateshead to celebrate Julie's seventieth birthday.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Apr 08 - 03:44 PM

I can imagine several people on that bill being dismissed as an unanmed 'local musician'. There are several with national reputations.

Whoever the organiser of this is, he or she should be more careful of protocol and peoples' feelings. No one is in this game for the money - but they are entitled to what little prestige attaches to being booked to entertain at a folk festival.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: danensis
Date: 21 Apr 08 - 03:57 PM

Its not only the artists who have been pissed off,

John

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 08:14 AM

Who are the other artistes, wld? The Tramway site doesn't name names.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: GUEST,Guest No Fixed Abode
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 07:06 PM

I guess we are one of the "Local Artists" we are called No Fixed Abode will be doing a 30 min slot before Julie on the Sunday and Monday.

Guess you will want to know what we look and sound like so as a start try this link to youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q1GKE5JVHw
Sorry no bluey.....still please cut and paste!!


Hope this helps

Thanks

Una

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 23 Apr 08 - 04:45 AM

I'm not sure who exactly they are. I bumped into one of them so angry that he said he was withdrawing.

I get the impression theres some weird people organising folk festivals these days.

Have you seen the poster for Southwell? theres all these ubermensch types on the front page. On the reverse side in tiny tiny letters - it transpires they have booked Bill Caddick!

Like, as if one of these new people were capable of writing songs like The Writing of Tiperary or John O'Dreams.

Weird shit..! It can only mean the organisers are very Johnny Come Latelys to the folkscene.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Mr Happy
Date: 23 Apr 08 - 05:19 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q1GKE5JVHw

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: GUEST,No Fixed Abode
Date: 23 Apr 08 - 04:09 PM

Thanks for doing that Mr Happy......one day we will learn to do it for ourselves!!

Una

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Apr 08 - 04:25 PM

Mrs P and I had a lovely weekend in Matlock Bath a few years ago for our wedding anniversary - Same weekend as this. Visited Critch tram museum as well and had a lovely tine - But it was perishing cold for May - Think we had some snow if I remember rightly. Don't let that put you off though - It is a great place. Watch some episodes of 'Peak Practice' before you go and then spot the locations. Visit the Heights of Abraham at Matlock Bath as well - Brilliant.

Good Luck

Dave.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: GUEST,No Fixed Abode
Date: 24 Apr 08 - 06:38 AM

Denisis,
       Seems you have an issue...what has happened?

Una

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Mr Happy
Date: 01 May 08 - 08:29 AM

Any sessions, camping?

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 01 May 08 - 02:55 PM

Yeh. I'll have session with ya Mr Happy1 In fact I've still got that weird bottle of beer that the landlord at Wardlow Mires flogged me. £8.60 for a bottle of beer - made by trappist monks!

looking forward to it.

al

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Folkiedave
Date: 01 May 08 - 06:57 PM

I get the impression there's some weird people organising folk festivals these days.

Have you seen the poster for Southwell?

Let me declare an interest. I am a trader and I took a stall at Gate to Southwell Festival last year. I am taking another one this year because last year was a very succesful weekend for me. The organisers had a pretty good idea what they were doing and they had the best bogs of any greenfield festival I have ever been to!! :-)

The organisers as far as I could seemed to have a pretty good idea about what they were doing as far as artists were concerned and some work was done involving local schoolchildren doing longsword, rapper and singing. Their Friday afternoon concert was packed.

Of course I had the advantage of going to the festival.

Below is a link to the website. As someone who goes to a lot of festivals because I am a trader and without seeing the programme or who is on with who, that's a good up-to-date line up IMHO.

Precisely what's wrong with it? And who on there is a Johnny Come Lately?

Also it strikes me that Bill is there as a member of All Blacked Up Ceilidh Band as well as a solo spot. He gets a good review on the website.

http://www.southwellfolkfestival.org.uk/

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 01 May 08 - 07:50 PM

Dave i don't know why you pursue me round mudcat picking arguments.

I go to a lot of folk clubs and I am repeating a point of view that has been expressed to me three of four times. It could be that you know a lot more about folk music than the people I have been talking to.

However from the way you have declined to engage with the central point - namely that Bill Caddick should have been on the front page with top billing, I take it its just the regular let's have a stupid argument about sod all sort of malarkey.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 May 08 - 07:15 AM

Well, I don't follow you around Mudcat picking arguments. I don't follow anyone. If you write something I want to agree with, I may or may not write and say so. If you write something - which let's face it was pretty vehement - "weird shit" was your expression - if I disagree with it I may or may not say so on the same basis.

I am quite happy to engage with the argument that Bill Caddick should be at the top of the bill and on the front page with top billing.

I get the impression that Bill Caddick is not particularly bothered about being top of the bill. How do I get that impression? Well for starters his gig list on his own website does not seem to have been up-dated since 2006.
http://www.billcaddick.co.uk/gigs.html

Not a definitive answer I know - but it does look as if not many people are booking him these days. He is booked at a few festivals (Chester 2007, Lincoln 2008) but I have not seen him much at a festivals as as a solo artist, more as member of All Blacked Up.

I don't see how you can assume that because of where they put him there on the bill they are Johnny Come Lately's, which is what you wrote.

Are you saying that all those festival organisers who haven't even booked him - which as far as I can see is many of the rest of the festival organisers in the UK - are Johnny Come Lately's too?

I just don't think people should make allegations - however expressed - that don't seem to have much basis in fact. If the people you met at the folk clubs said something you disagreed with I doubt if you would have posted it on here.

And Bill Caddick is a great singer and has written some of the best songs I have ever heard.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 May 08 - 01:04 PM

That publicity was put together by someone who had no idea of Bill Caddick's achievements or status within the folk community. I should have thought that much was obvious.

You are picking a fight over nothing.

If your criteria for deciding someone's importance is a webpage - many of which the older generation simply haven't got round to. You have come lately to this business. i concede your name might not be Johnny.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 May 08 - 02:28 PM

I would have thought that whereabouts on the bill someone comes is reliant in part, is on their ability to sell tickets. You may feel that Bill Caddick's name will sell tickets. The organiser whose festival it is - on that piece of paper - did not. Bill is given more or less the same amuount of space on the website as everyone else.

You started the argument by calling festival organisers "johnny come latelys" and suggesting that it was "weird shit". Having had personal experience of the festival last year and attracted again this year in part by the line-up, I thought you were wrong and said so.

That's all.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: sapper82
Date: 04 May 08 - 03:37 PM

A good day today, despite the weather.
Jakc Hudson & No Fixed Abode both on top form and as for Julie Felix, is she REALLY near 70??????
Still bloody good looking and a first class performer.

Last day tomorrow.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Fliss
Date: 04 May 08 - 05:14 PM

We go to Crich for the 40s events. The one at Easter this year was like being in Siberia... howling winds and drifting snow. Our pals tent blew up, and our display tent blew down. Luckily we were sleeping in R Pod... the caravan. And the event organiser and staff were ace and let us put up our display in one of the tramsheds.

Hope tomorrow is good weather. It must be fun playing music riding the trams.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 May 08 - 05:37 PM

Nice seeing you again Sapper. We must get a good version of your song about the driver in the Great Train Robbery, Jack Mills together. Its a great idea for a song. there so many songs about bad guys. A great idea to write one about the victim. I was telling Hudson about your idea for a song and he was also intrigued and thought it a brilliant idea.

Print the words here or hereabouts. People ought to know about the idea. Some people who make a fortune out of folk music NEVER get an idea that good.

Folkiedave - we don't agree. we never shall. let's just agree to disagree.

It was a good day. A nice good humoured session in the pub afterwards as well.

Julie Felix is really a link to another generation. So many people 'do' Bob Dylan and Woody Guthrie - because our generation heard them on firstly record, we don't really get it! This lady really 'uses' those songs. Watching her - one gets the vaguest inkling of what Woody must have been like in those Labour Union Halls. Real folk music. An actual dialogue with the audience. She really is quite excellent, and I was totally unprepared for what I saw.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Folkiedave
Date: 04 May 08 - 08:49 PM

as for Julie Felix, is she REALLY near 70??????

On June the 14th 2008 a special concert is being held at the Sage in Gateshead to celebrate Julie's seventieth birthday.

So yes !! She is getting close :-)

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 May 08 - 02:49 AM

Glad you enjoyed Julie Felix wld - still a magical performer. Met her at the Gainsborough Festival three years ago, what a lovely lady. Tiny in stature, yet mind-bogglingly powerful in performance. Her performance of 'Boots of Spanish Leather' was brilliant and unforgettable. A true Star.

And good to hear Jack Hudson's on form. Would have loved to meet up with him again, but other pressing matters kept me away.

Subject: RE: Folk Weekend at Crich Tramway Museum
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Oct 14 - 07:56 PM

Is there likely to be another one of these?