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Subject: Blue clickie info please From: greg stephens Date: 07 Jul 08 - 07:04 AM Now, I dont know much about blue clickies. But if I have an operational one in a Mudcat thread, I can't seem to move it into another thread. If you cut and paste it from one thread to another, it seems to lose its magic click-power. But if I am writing an erail to someone, I can transfer a clickie from another email into the one I am writing, and it still works. So, what is wrong with the Mudcat procedure?It wastes a lot of time having to remake a clicky when all you want to do is bring it into your post intact from elsewhere. Any advice? |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: John MacKenzie Date: 07 Jul 08 - 07:06 AM If you right click the html comes up, and you should be able to paste and copy that to any other site that accepts html coding. G |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: John MacKenzie Date: 07 Jul 08 - 07:10 AM You need to click on Properties, after the right click |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: greg stephens Date: 07 Jul 08 - 07:20 AM OK I'll try. Boat Band in Babylon |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: greg stephens Date: 07 Jul 08 - 07:23 AM No, that didn't work. Sorry,John,could you explain a precise series of operations; from a clicky in another thread, to getting it operational in this thread. |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: Jeri Date: 07 Jul 08 - 08:16 AM Right click on the clicky Select 'copy link location' or however your browser puts it. Paste that into the new message. You can make a link either according to directions in the FAQ or using the 'Make a link' feature. If you plan on posting the link more than once, you might want to save the whole HTML, tags and title, to a text file. It's somewhat awkward, but making it easy would make Mudcat a spammer's paradise. |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: greg stephens Date: 07 Jul 08 - 09:08 AM Does that mean I just paste it into the new message, or do I have to go through the whole "Make a link" procedure again? IU'll have a go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j28Ah6DTJZM |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: greg stephens Date: 07 Jul 08 - 09:10 AM OK, I guess it means what I started out with: you have to do it all again. Let's try Boat Band in Babylon |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: greg stephens Date: 07 Jul 08 - 09:20 AM OK I think I've grasped it at last. It's made delibearately complicated to discourage excessive publicising. I can cut and paste a link out of a Mudcat thread into composing an email, for example, but I can't cut and paste a link from an email into a Mudcat thread, or from one thread to another. That explains why loads of links on Mudcat don't work...others are fooled too! |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: Joe Offer Date: 07 Jul 08 - 11:14 AM Hi, Greg- Some computer functions, like Microsoft Word and e-mail programs, are set up so they can automatically make a link of an URL that is pasted in. If I recall correctly, Mudcat can be set to do that, but there are a lot of shortcomings and problems and shenanigans that can be caused by using that option in a public forum - so it was decided to leave that option turned off and let people learn to make their own links (or use the Make a link ("blue clicky") tool at the bottom of message-posting boxes. So, if you want to make a link, you more-or-less have to learn how to do it. You use the target URL (Internet address), a couple of HTML tags, and a reference word (note how Joe has cleverly made these colors correspond with the example below).
I find it's best to open a new browser window [CTRL-N] and navigate your way to the site you want to link to. Highlight and copy [CTRL-C] the URL (address) of the site, and then go back to your Mudcat message and paste [CTRL-V] the URL into your link. Be sure to include the http:// in that URL. The quotation marks are standard procedure, but most links work just fine without quotation marks. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: greg stephens Date: 07 Jul 08 - 01:06 PM Joe: I do know how to make a link. It was the problem of how to copy a link on to a Mudcat thread that I was asking about. And I've been answered: you can't! |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: Joe Offer Date: 07 Jul 08 - 08:46 PM Well, I dunno, Greg. I copy links and paste them into Mudcat all the time. I right-click on the link and select "copy shortcut." Then I do this:
-joe- |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 07 Jul 08 - 09:12 PM If you want to COPY a properly formed link FROM a Mudcat thread 1) Open the thread 2) Use View - Page Source 3) search thru that for the link 4) copy and paste that full properly formed link |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: John MacKenzie Date: 08 Jul 08 - 05:07 AM Highlight the hyperlink, right click, select View Selection Source, and the HTML will come up. Copy and paste from there. That's in XP, don't know about others. G |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: greg stephens Date: 08 Jul 08 - 07:09 AM If I highlight a hyperlink and right click(I do have Windows XP), I dont get a "View Selection Source". I get a "view source" option, but it doesnt give the HTML for the link. It shows a lot of guff which seems to be about the Mudcat thread where the hyperlink is. All I am saying is, I can cut and paste a link from an email straight into a new email I am writing, and it works. I can't do the same thing into a Mudcat thread. I have to go through a much longer procedure. |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: Amos Date: 08 Jul 08 - 10:51 AM Well, actually, that's because the target programs--your email program, is set up to do so. It is not that Mudcat could not, but that it was decided not to because of the risks associated with the capability. It's no big deal to type an href and a /a here and there. A |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: GUEST Date: 08 Jul 08 - 11:23 AM http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=112548&messages=16 |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: GUEST,goatfell Date: 08 Jul 08 - 11:24 AM I just don't know how to do it, and please do tell me in layman's terms, in other write very simply please |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: Bill D Date: 08 Jul 08 - 12:43 PM all that stuff around the address (the brackets and the a href and the = and so on, (LOOK at Joe's colorful example),...those tell the computer how to display the address...that is, as a clickable link. In order for it to be clickable, it MUST be typed or pasted with the 'code' around it. That code disappears when you do it right, leaving just the part in blue (in Joe's example, the 'click here' part.) It really, really is not hard once you have done it twice....unless you have trouble typing in general. If you get a pointy bracket backwards or don't put that space between the 'a' and the 'href' it won't work. |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: Joe Offer Date: 08 Jul 08 - 12:45 PM Hi, Goatfell- I've worked on an explanation for years, and the best I can come up with, is what I posted in red, blue, and black above. You can copy that link demo above and use it as a template - just replace the Mudcat address in the example, with whatever target link you want. Be sure to include the http:// Feel free to post test links in this thread. Giok, what browser are you using? I'm betting it's Firefox. In Windows Internet Explorer, you can view the source for the entire page, but sometimes that's too much information. In Firefox, you can do the procedure Gioc suggested - highlight the link (or whatever) you want to copy, right-click and choose View Selection Source, and the HTML will come up. Copy and paste from there. I don't know what other browsers have that Firefox feature - it's a handy one. If you do that with song lyrics from another source, you may find that the <br> line breaks are already in the text you're copying. If that's the case, make sure you uncheck the "Automatic Linebreaks" box in the Mudcat message box. Feel free to post test links in this thread. We'll get around to erasing them eventually.
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: John MacKenzie Date: 08 Jul 08 - 12:50 PM Yup Firefox Joe, not a fan of Windoze in this house. Sorry if I misled anyone there. G |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: Bill D Date: 08 Jul 08 - 12:50 PM note...IF you copy and paste Joe's example into this box, the computer WILL think it's a real address and go to Mudcat ...where you already are. IF you substitute another address for the http://www.mudcat.org part, it will make a link to THAT address. IF you type some other words in place of 'click here', those words will be displayed in blue. That can be the address again, or some descriptive term like "my page"... or random numbers! What appears in blue is totally up to you. |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: Amos Date: 08 Jul 08 - 01:24 PM Firefox has a "View Source" capability just as Mozilla did, Netscape did, and IE does. WIthin the text of the source code for the page, if you search for the VISIBLE text part of a link, you will find it embedded between two little "container" commands, starting with "a href" and ending with "/a". Each container command is encliosed in angle brackets <>. If you copy everything from the first angle bracket before the "a href". top the last angle bracket after the "/a", you can paste that whole string into any post and it will appear as a hot link, or blue clicky. IN English, these commands stand for "Anchor a hypertext reference" and "End the anchor". If you study HTML at all you will find most of the commands are in these start- and end-brackets which make up the "sides" of the "container". Same for using "b" and "/b" to start and end bolding. A |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: Joe Offer Date: 08 Jul 08 - 01:52 PM Hi, Amos - The View Selection Source feature in Firefox is a step ahead of what you get in Windows Internet Explorer - highlight what you want to copy, right-click, and choose view selection source. You will get only the part you want, and won't have to sort through the other stuff. I thought the latest version of Windows Internet Explorer might include this feature, but it didn't. I go back and forth between browsers. Right now, Internet Explorer has a few features I like, so I'm using it. Next time Firefox comes out with a new version, I'm likely to switch. I've been trying Safari, but haven't learned to like it yet. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: JohnInKansas Date: 08 Jul 08 - 03:01 PM For the obsessive compulives who "just want to know" the input box at mudcat is a text editor, vaguely similar to programs like Notepad, and can't accept any of the switches/codes/mystic signs and other "accessories" of something you paste, so you have actually enter the codes to make a link. The actual threads are in a "rich text" that can have embedded code-ish stuff that doesn't display, but that does affect the display and provides other useful functions. The "rich text" format for the threads happen to be "html" but isn't functionally a whole lot different that other "rich formats" used by many other programs - like word processors. For links that you see in a web page, IE lets you right-click on the link and "copy shortcut." Usually this copies the URL from the link, and when you paste it into the mudcat input box you'll get the "http://www.somesite.something" thingy that you can use to code a full link. Sometimes, however the "Copy shortcut" only pastes the "display text" into the input box (or into another text editor or even into a full-up word processor.) In some cases where the URL doesn't come accross, IE and other "html-intelligent" programs will offer something like "Edit Link." If this option appears, you'll usually see a box containing the URL, which you can copy, and a separate box containing the "display text." The truly anal-retentive will just right-click the link and open in a new tab, where they can copy the URL from the browser address bar while at the same time confirming that the link is still working. After pasting the URL into the <a href="URL">some display text</a> code the truly A-R person will then click the Preview box, and in the preview will right click the link and open the link in a new tab to be sure that the link they coded actually works, before hitting the final "Submit Message" button. This will also let you see if you've neglected to delet all the sidebars and other extraneous junk from your cut and paste post so that people won't laugh at you like we do at Amos. Should one wish to use a wordprocessor program to compose posts before pasting into the mudcat "Reply to Thread" box, you should also be aware that a common WP setting is to "replace straight quotes with smart quotes" (curly quotes). Some sites can accomodate standard curly quuotes and apostrophes, but it's safer to turn off the autoreplace function and use straight quotes. When you cut and paste from some websites, you may also find that the web page uses a different font map, sometimes due to use of "regionalized" computers; and their "curly quotes" and other typographical marks may paste the code for different characters than what you see on their page (and that don't conform to Unicode char definitions). When this happens, you may get bunches of funny junk that Preview is a good thing to use, if you don't spend so much time editing that the link times out before you hit the final "Submit Message." John |
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Subject: RE: Blue clickie info please From: greg stephens Date: 08 Jul 08 - 03:27 PM Blimey, that's worse than Richard Bridge on the definition of folk! |
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