Lyr Req: Confederate 'Men of Harlech'

Subject: Lyr Req: Confederate 'Men of Harlech'
From: The Walrus
Date: 31 Jul 08 - 09:37 PM

I've read a report on another site, of an ACW Confederate song to the tune of "Men of Harlech", the problem is that, while there is mention of the song, no-one seems to have any idea of the lyric or even the subject matter.

When stuck for a song, it seems logical to apply to the vast pool of knowledge here, so, please, can anyone help?

Sorry it's all a bit vague.

Tom (the Walrus)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Confederate 'Men of Harlech'
From: masato sakurai
Date: 31 Jul 08 - 11:47 PM

This may or may not be the song.

Lyr Add: March of the Sons of Confederate Veterans

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Confederate 'Men of Harlech'
From: CET
Date: 01 Aug 08 - 09:58 AM

This looks like the one that Tom was looking for. It hardly seems worth the effort. It's a piece of bombastic, racist garbage (So onward for the Southland's glory tell our fathers' noble story.
Their cause and ours is just and holy, truth will triumph yet). I have enormous respect for the brave men on both sides side of that war, and I have a picture of Stonewall Jackson on my office wall, alongside U.S. Grant, but the "cause" the South was fighting for was the opposite of holy. I can understand the motivations of the men who fought for the Confederacy, who were products of their time and mostly did not own slaves, but it turns my stomach to see lyrics like this written in the present day. It also embarasses me, as a Welshman, to see the words written to "Men of Harlech".

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Confederate 'Men of Harlech'
From: The Walrus
Date: 02 Aug 08 - 01:32 AM

Ah well! It looks like t wasn't an ACW song after all.

Thanks guys, I'll pass the information on.

Tom

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Confederate 'Men of Harlech'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Aug 08 - 02:34 AM

Hi, Tom -
What's ACW?
Oh, OK - American Civil War. The song in question was written in 1997 - March of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, which makes it even more appalling.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Confederate 'Men of Harlech'
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Aug 08 - 12:40 PM

In 1865, Father Abram Ryan wrote "The Conquered Banner."
No music is specified in "Allan's Lone Star Ballads, A Collection of Southern Patriotic Songs Made During Confederate Times," Francis D. Allan, 1874, and reprint.
The form and meter suggests that it may have been composed with "The March of the Men of Harlech" in mind.
First verse-

Furl that banner! for 'tis weary.
Round its staff, 'tis drooping dreary;
Furl it, fold it, it is best:
For there's not a man to wave it,
And there's not a sword to save it,
And there's no one left to lave it
In the blood which heroes gave it;
And its foes now scorn and brave it;
Furl it, hide it, let it rest.

Father Ryan's poem is perhaps the most poignant of those written following the loss of the War.
Full lyrics also at Civil War Poetry website Conquered Banner
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The song "March of the Sons of Confederate Veterans," lyrics by James F. Chumbley, commemorates the men who fought for the Confederacy. I see nothing specifically racist in its words.
The sentiments are expressed at meetings of descendants; The United Daughters of the Confederacy, Children of the Confederacy, and the Sons..., and at graveside memorials for veterans on Confederate Memorial Day (April 28 this year, a mandatory state holiday in South Carolina).
Photographs of the events in Jacksonville, FL at: Jacksonville

The song may be heard at the website of the Saluda SC chapter, Sons of Confederate Veterans: March

The 115th Annual Convention of the United Daughters of the Confederacy will be held in Richmond, Nov. 6-10.
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