Subject: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Abby Sale Date: 27 Oct 08 - 07:33 AM My nephew, Mark, sends this link to some BBC notes on the Ediphone cylinders. It just gives the bare mention of what looks like a very valuable set of field records of shanties. Looks very interesting. Anyone know more about it? Texts online, etc? |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: GUEST Date: 27 Oct 08 - 07:46 AM The James Madison Carpenter Collection Online Catalogue |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Snuffy Date: 27 Oct 08 - 09:41 AM General discussion in this thread Lyr Req: James M. Carpenter Shanties & Sea Songs, plus many threads on individual songs or singers: Lyr Add: James Salters' 'A Long Time Ago' Lyr Add: Scott's 'Can't You Dance the Polka?' Lyr Req: Fire Down Below/William Fender Version Lyr Req: Don't Touch the Bumble Bee Lyr Req: Tiger Bay (sea shanty) Lyr Req: Bulgine - NYC fire Lyr Add: The Hat McGinnis Wore (Australian) Lyr Add: Tom's Gone to Hilo Maid of Australia etc, etc, ... |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Snuffy Date: 27 Oct 08 - 09:45 AM And if you look at the Overview page on the Carpenter Collection website, you will see that the 800 shanties & sea songs were only a small fraction of his collection, with 4000 versions of Child Ballads, 500 folk plays, etc |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Abby Sale Date: 27 Oct 08 - 03:06 PM Well, now I know what is known. Thank you. I'll keep a eye out. |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: dick greenhaus Date: 27 Oct 08 - 03:31 PM About 100 or so of Carpenter's field recordings of sea music are available on CD--Folktrax 141 and 142. Tracklists :
Folktrax 141 1. LOWLANDS (AWAY) William Fender, Barry - 1'30"
Folktrax 142 1. LOWLANDS (AWAY) William Fender, Barry - 1'30" 2. LUCY ANNA (a) James Dwyer, Glasgow (b) J.S.Scott, London (cry at end) - 1'53" 3. McGUINNESS (or THE HAT McGUINNESS WORE) James Dwyer, Glasgow - 1'19" 4. THE MAID OF AUSTRALIA Robert Yeaman, Dundee - 0'54" 5. MAINSAIL HAUL (or PADDY LAY BACK) John Vass, Shandwick, Invergordon, E.Ross - 1'02" 6. MARY'S ON THE ISLAND Mark Page, Sunderland - 0'39" 7. MIND HOW YOU SWING YOUR TAIL John Middleton, Leith - 0'29" 8. MONEY-O Mark Page, Sunderland - 0'48" 9. NOTHING BUT A HUMBUG Rees Baldwin, Barry - 0'43" 10. THE OAK AND THE ASH (a) William Rennie, S.Shields (first verse) (b) James Forman, Leith (last verse) - 1'03" 11. ONE MORE DAY Andrew Salters, Greenock, Renfrewsh - 0'45" 12. PADDY DOYLE'S BOOTS (a) Andrew Salters, Greenock, Renfrewsh (b) Edward Robinson, Sunderland - 0'34" 13. PADDY WORKS ON THE RAILWAY Mark Page, Sunderland (2 v only) - 0'44" 14. POOR LITTLE LIZA J.B.Scott, London - 0'48" 15. POOR OLD MAN (or THE DEAD HORSE SHANTY) (a) Andrew Salters, Greenock, Renfrewsh (b) James Henderson, Dundee - 1'03" 16. POWDER MONKEY JIM William Rennie, S.Shields - 0'52" 17. RAMBLING THROUGH WAPPING John Ferries, S.Shields - 1'24" 18. RANZO BOYS (a) Walter Eades, Edinburgh (b) Jack Murray, Aberdeen (c) David Atkinson, Glasgow (d) Thomas Carfrae, Sunderland - 1'58" 19. RANZO RAY (a) Jimmy Cronin (b) Jack Murray (c) James Wright, Leith - 1'58" 20. RATCLIFFE HIGHWAY Jimmy Cronin, London - 1'16" 21. RIO GRANDE Mark Page, Sunderland - 0'44" 22. ROLL THE CHARIOT ALONG George Simpson, Dundee - 0'30" 23. ROLL THE COTTON DOWN J.S.Scott, London - 0'46" 24. ROLLING HOME John Macpherson, S.Shields - 0'50" 25. RUN WITH THE BULLGINE, RUN (a) Jack Murray, Aberdeen (b) James Forman. Leith - 1'20" 26. SACRAMENTO J.S.Scott, London - 1'03" 27. THE SAILOR'S ALPHABET (A-H) (a) William Farquhar, Maud, Aberdeenshire (b) William Rennie, S.Shields - 1'24" 28. THE SAILOR'S WAY George Simpson - 1'28" 29. SALLY BROWN (a) J.S.Scott, London (b) Robert Yeaman, Dundee (c) James Henderson, Dundee (d) George Simpson, Dundee - 3'00" 30. SANTY ANNA (a) Jimmy Cronin, London (b) William Fender, Barry - 1'27" 31. SAUCY ROSABELLA J.S.Scott, London - 0'54" 32. SHALLOW BROWN (a) William Fender, Barry (b) John Middleton, Leith (c) Thomas Carfrae, Sunderland (d) Alex Henderson, Dundee - 2'53" 33. SHENANDOAH Jack Murray, Aberdeen - 0'40" 34. SOUTH AUSTRALIA (a) Rees Baldwin, Barry (b) J.S.Scott, London - 2'28" 35. THE STATE OF ALABAMA James Moncrieff, Dundee - 1'29" 36. THE STATELY SOUTHERNER (or PAUL JONES) Rees Baldwin, Barry - 0'40" 37. STORMALONG (a) William Fender, Barry (b) Edward Robinson, Sunderland - 1'16" 38. TALLY-I-O James Wright, Leith - 0'45" 39. TAPSCOTT (a) Rees Baldwin, Barry (b) John Ferries, S. Shields - 1'38" 40. TEN STONE TEN Alex Blue, Greenock - 0'40" 41. TIGER BAY (a) John Ferries, S. Shields (b) James Forman, Leith - 3'54" 42. VICTORIO (a) James Dwyer, Glasgow (b) Andrew Salters, Greenock, Renfrewsh (with chorus) (c) Mark Page, Sunderland - 1'30" 43. WALKALONG, YOU SAUCY ANNA William Fender, Barry - 0'46" 44. WE'RE ALL BOUND TO GO (or HEAVE AWAY, MY JOHNNY) William Fender, Barry - 1'20" 45. WHISKY JOHNNY (a) Mark Page, Sunderland (b) Robert Yeaman, Dundee (c) John Middleton, Leith - 1'35" 46. WINDY OLD WEATHER William Fender, Barry - 0'21" 47. YO, HEAVE HO Jimmy Cronin, London - 1'57" Recorded by James Carpenter Sound quality is pretty awful--what you'd expect from dictaphone recordings back in the 1920s. Oh yes, they're available from CAMSCO Music. Of course. |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Jim Carroll Date: 27 Oct 08 - 04:35 PM Dick, Just a reminder; The J M Carpenter material in the Folktrax catalogue was stolen by Peter Kennedy. He was asked to review the collection by EFDSS and, at the request of the librarian (and against my better judgement), I made copies of the recorded material. Of course, it made its way into the catalogue and has remained there since. I don't know if the people who are (legitimately) working on the collection are aware of the situation, but they should be informed, and permission should be sought by the owners. Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: shipcmo Date: 24 Apr 10 - 12:11 PM refresh |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: shipcmo Date: 21 Dec 10 - 12:26 PM As I muddle along with my "Great Exercise in Futility", i.e., an Index of First Lines for Shanties & Sea Songs, I came upon the following: From the James Madison Carpenter Collection Online Catalog: Page 03139 : The Ship That Never Returned [song text] James Dwyer (contributor) Genre song - forebitter First line Twas a summer morn and the waves did ripple AND, From the Frank C. Brown Collection of North Carolina Folklore Volume II, page 507: The Ship That Never Returned First Line On a summer day, as the waves were rippling Are the Carpenter texts available anywhere? Cheers, Geo |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: RTim Date: 21 Dec 10 - 12:44 PM At present - Only if you talk nicely to Bob Walser!! Hopefully they will be online sometime - Bob? Tim Radford |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: dick greenhaus Date: 21 Dec 10 - 01:30 PM Bob Walser has released a CD of sea songs from the Madison Collection. Good stuff. Available from CAMSCO. Of course. |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: shipcmo Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:28 AM Just finished reviewing Bob's renditions. Well Done! This is the first "new" set in 40 years. A must for those who take their Sea Music seriously. Cheers, Geo |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: *#1 PEASANT* Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:43 AM You will have to get in touch with the AFC at the Library of Congress. I did wassail research with the material a while back. Was supposed to be digitized and on line by now but no sign yet. Conrad |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: doc.tom Date: 31 Dec 10 - 09:07 AM As this thread has re-surfaced, can I draw people's attention to Jim Carroll's message above - it still applies! I remember it happening at the time the recordings came via the Western Region Office of EFDSS on their way from the Library of Congress. |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: shipcmo Date: 01 Jan 11 - 01:53 PM Here are the tracks from Bob Walser's CD "Outward Bound": 1. I Joined a Ship - George Simpson 2. Poor Little Liza - J S Scott 3. Be Handy - John Harris 4. Hilo, Johnny, Hilo - Rees Baldwin 5. Ranzo - Walter Ede 6. The Bridget Ann - Charles Snellen 7. Down in those Valleys - William Fender 8. Allie Go Day - John Ferries(Gerries) 9. Haul Away Rosy - Rees Baldwin 10. Donnelly and the Goat - George Simpson 11. Tom Pepper - Edward b Trumbull 12. Tall I O - James Wright 13. Hoist Her up from Down Below - J S Scott 14. Tiger Bay - John Ferries 15. Saucy Anna - William Fender 16. Our Anchor is Up to the Bow - Jimmie Cronin |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: shipcmo Date: 01 Jan 11 - 01:58 PM While I'm at it, here are the Carpenter tracks from Bob's previous CD "When Our Ship Comes Home": 1. Down Trinidad - Richard Warner 2. Fire Down Below - William Fender 3. Here We Come Home in a Leaky Ship 4. You're Nothin' but a Humbug - Rees Baldwin |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: shipcmo Date: 01 Jan 11 - 02:11 PM BTW Dick never corrected the posting of the Folktrax tracks, where he posted 142 twice, so here is 141: 1. A-ROVING (a) John Middleton, Leith (b) Jack Murray, Aberdeen - 1'24" 2. ABRAHAM BROWN James Dyer, Glasgow - 1'49" 3. ALL FOR THE GROG James Henderson, Dundee - 0'27" 4. THE BANKS OF NEWFOUNDLAND William Rennie, South Shields, Durham - 2'15" 5. BLOW, BOYS, BLOW J.S.Scott, London (with cry of "belay" at end) - 2'35" 6. BLOW HIGH, BLOW LOW George Simpson, Dundee - 0'58" 7. BLOW THE MAN DOWN (a) Jimmy Cronin, London (b) James Moncrieff, Dundee - 1'58" 8. THE BOLD PRINCESS ROYAL Thomas Moore, South Shields, Durham - 2'10" 9. BONEY James Forman - 1'25" 10. THE BOTTLE-O James Wright, Leith - 0'24" 11. BULLY IN THE ALLEY James Forman, Leith - 0'39" 12. CAN'T YOU DANCE THE POLKA J.S.Scott, London (with cry at end) - 1'21" 13. CHEER UP, Mrs. RILEY Andrew Salters, Greenock, Renfrewsh - 2'21" 14. CHEERILY MEN Edward Robinson, Sunderland, Durham - 0'28" 15. THE CUMBERLAND'S CREW James Henderson, Dundee - 0'26" 16. DOWN IN THOSE VALLEYS DOWN BELOW William Fender, Barry, S.Wales - 1'31" 17. THE DRUNKEN SAILOR (a) John Macpherson, S. Shields (b) George Simpson, Dundee (c) James Dwyer, Glasgow - 1'13" 18. THE FEMALE CABIN-BOY (a) James Forman, Leith (b) Jimmy Cronin, London (2v each) - 1'35" 19. FIRE DOWN BELOW (a) Alex Blue, Greenock (b) James Wright, Leith (c) Jack Murray, Aberdeen (d) William Rennie, S.Shields (e) Edward Robinson, Sunderland, Durham (f) William Fender, Barry, S.Wales - 2'48" 20. THE GIRL WITH THE BLUE DRESS ON James Wright, Leith - 0'55" 21. GO TO SEA ONCE MORE John Vass, Shandwick, Invergordon, E. Ross - 0'44" 22. THE GOLDEN VANITY (a) George Simpson, Dundee (b) James Forman, Leith - 2'36" 23. GOODBYE John Macpherson, S.Shields - 0'25" 24. GOODBYE, FARE YOU WELL Jack Murray, Aberdeen - 0'42" 25. HANDY, ME BOYS, SO HANDY John Middleton, Leith - 0'29" 26. HANGING JOHNNY Andrew Salters, Greenock, Renfrewsh - 0'34" 27. HAUL AWAY, JOE (a) William Fender, Barry (b) Jimmy Cronin, London (c) Rees Baldwin, Barry - 2'47" 28. HAUL AWAY, ROSIE Rees Baldwin, Barry - 1'04" 29. HAUL ON THE BOWLIN' William Fender, Barry - 0'28" 30. HIGHLAND LADDIE/ LASSIE (1v each) (a) James Dwyer, Glasgow (b) Andrew Salters, Greenock, Renfrewsh (c) H.J.Hammond, Sunderland (d) Thomas Carfrae (e) John Macpherson, S.Shields (cry at end) - 2'07" 31. HILLY HALLY HO John Middleton, Leith - 1'52" 32. HILO MAN William Fender, Barry - 0'59" 33. THE HOGS-EYE MAN (a) Mark Page, Sunderland (b) Edward Robinson, Sunderland (c) Rees Baldwin, Barry - 1'24" 34. HOIST HER UP FROM DOWN BELOW J.S.Scott, London - 0'49" 35. HUMBALINA Robert Yeaman - 0'18" 36. A HUNDRED YEARS AGO (a) Edward Robinson, Sunderland (b) William Fender, Barry - 0'57" 37. JAMBOREE (a) Jack Murray, Aberdeen (b) Rees Baldwin, Barry (c) Jimmy Cronin, London - 0'58" 38. JOHNNY BOWKER (a) Alex Blue, Greenock (b) George Simpson, Dundee - 0'52" 39. JOHNNY COME DOWN TO HILO Rees Baldwin, Barry - 0'52" 40. JOHN'S (TOM'S) GONE TO HILO (a) Rees Baldwin, Barry (b) Alex Henderson, Dundee (c) J.S.Scott, London (cry at end) - 1'51" 41. JOHNNY HALL (recitation - version of SAM HALL) John Macpherson - 0'53" 42. JUBER, MIND THE BEE Andrew Salters, Greenock, Renfrewsh - 0'58" 43. JULIE (a) John Macpherson, Sunderland (b) Alex Blue, Greenock - 1'06" 44. THE LEAKY SHIP William Fender, Barry - 0'30" 45. LEAVE HER, JOHNNY (a) Jack Murray, Aberdeen (b) Mark Page, Sunderland - 1'30" 46. (A) LONG TIME AGO Andrew Salters, Greenock, Renfrewsh (cry at end) - 1'59" |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: shipcmo Date: 01 Jan 11 - 02:26 PM And, as a List Maker, here are the texts that are available here on Mudcat. A Long Time Ago: Salters Blow The Man Down: Garricy Can't You Dance the Polka?: Scott Down Trinidad: Warner [2 versions] Cheer Up, Mrs. Riley: Salters Fire Down Below: Fender Johnny's' Gone to Hilo: Baldwin Lowlands: Fender Nothin' but a Humbug: Baldwin Run, Let The Bulgine, Run: Murray Run With The Bulgine, Run: Forman Tiger Bay: Gerries(Ferries) Tom's Gone to Hilo: Scott Tom's Gone to Ilo : Scott |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 01 Jan 11 - 03:29 PM Bob Walser site, with his lyrics: Bob Walser |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Gibb Sahib Date: 02 Jan 11 - 05:51 AM Good lists, Geo, thanks. |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: shipcmo Date: 03 Jan 11 - 08:37 AM The wonders of the Internet! Trade Winds Album by Calennig "South Wales sea Songs originally recorded by American folklorist James Madison Carpenter, together with Welsh airs and tunes played on a stunning array of acoustic instruments" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0045GNB3I/ref=dm_sp_alb (MP3 for $8.99) Tommy's Gone Away Y Bore Glas/Ilo Man Llydaw Nothing But A Humbug/Hoffder Y Dyn Ifanc/Machynlleth Lowlands Tiger Bay Ffarwel i Aberyswyth/Swansea Gals The Llantrisant Set: Yr Hen Felin Wynt/Ceiniog Newydd/Tafarn y Wheatsheaf Farewell To The Sail/Walk Along You Saucy Anna Suo Gan/Y Gelynnen/Abaty Llanthoni Nant Hodni |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Bob_Walser Date: 03 Jan 11 - 11:41 AM As Tim hinted, Carpenter's texts are in the process of being edited for eventual publication and I'm working on the maritime materials. The originals have been digitized by the Library of Congress and will, at some time, be publicly available through the Performing Arts Encyclopedia portion of the Library of Congress website. You can be sure that we'll let the world know when this goes live! One of the issues with the collection, hinted at above, has to do with intellectual property. These issues are being raised not only by folks at the Library of Congress but by the UK-based Carpenter Project team of which I'm a member. Carpenter sold the collection to LoC in 1972 so ultimately, they will make the decisions about dissemination. Part of the pleasure of working on the project has been to collaborate with the descendants of Carpenter's contributors - the BBC programmes being lovely examples. It is an extraordinary collection and I'm honored to have the chance to work with it. |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Lighter Date: 03 Jan 11 - 01:04 PM Check out this message, a reminder of just how scratchy JMC's shanty records are: Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=1308531 |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: shipcmo Date: 04 Jan 11 - 09:56 PM From the James Madison Carpenter Collection Mark Page singing Across the Western Ocean "Two dollars a day is the usual pay, Young girls goes a weepin', Two dollars a day is the usual pay, Across the Western Ocean. I thought I heard our captain say, Young girls goes a weepin', That we should have some grog today, Across the Western Ocean." BBC Requires: Real Player |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: shipcmo Date: 07 Jan 11 - 10:13 AM I have been working on an Index of First Lines of the Sea Songs, Forebitters, and Shanties, from my Library. An interest in the James Madison Carpenter Collection led me to investigate The James Madison Carpenter Collection Online Catalogue. Carpenter classified the subjects according to songs, forebitters, and shanties, and I have grouped my indexing accordingly. I will post each index seperately. |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: shipcmo Date: 07 Jan 11 - 10:14 AM SONGS Billibirumpidoodlupiday Captain John Conway, Page 03508 Oh goin down the river Music Californi-o Steamship Pilot, Page 03742 Oh the captain was a mean man, a mean man was he Copy [Croppy] Boy Charles B. Snellen, Page 03625- 03626 Twas early on last Thursday night Music Dark Eyed Sailor William Prosser, Page 03639- 03640 Oh a comely young lady fair, Music Dark Eyed Sailor H. J. Hammond, Page 03641 Love turns aside and cold does grow. The Derby Bull (Lying Song) Capt. H. J. Hammond, Page 03642 When first I went to Derby it was on a market day Music: That's A Lie Recording The Dolphin Captain H. J. Hammond, Page 03643 On the fourteenth of November, boys, in Plymouth town we lay Recording Double Breasted Mansion Captain Byrd, Page 03644 Oh the roof was copper bottomed Finigan's Wake James Dwyer, Page 03411 Right-for the dura Recording Finnegan's Wake W. Rennie, Page 03655 Tim Finegan lived in Maicus Street Music Green Burgee William Gaul, Page 03667- 03668 It's of an Irish ship, me boys Music Green Grow the Rashes O Mr Edward Robinson, Page 03403 Green grow the rashes o Music Recording Ibsen, Gibson and Johnson J. C. Collier, Page 03680 Ibsen, Gibson and Johnson as I've heard many say Music In the Morning by the Bright Light James Bland, Page 03536 Im gwine away by the light of the moon Indian Lass William Prosser, Page 03688 As I walked out one evening down some far distant shore Music Jolly Butchers Three James Masson, Page 03684 A story I will tell to you of jolly butchers three Kelly the Pirate James Christie, Page 03713- 03714 Ye bold British tars give an ear to my song Music Rob Roy McGregor O John Cardno, Page 03559 Have you ever been in Inverness Rob Roy McGregor O Mrs Maggie McCallum, Page 03559 Tally up and tally doon Rope with the Golden Strands Frank Waters, Page 03693- 03694 For sailors declare, when wind blows fair (The) Shamrock Green Captain Mark Page, Page 03699- 03700 O the sun was far in the clouds advanced Recording Taffy Rode Over the Border of Wales Harry Bowling, Page 03578 Taffy rode over the border of Wales Young Edwin, Low Lands Low Charles B. Snellen, Page 03735 Come all you good people and listen to my song Music |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: shipcmo Date: 07 Jan 11 - 10:25 AM FOREBITTERS Aboard the Handy Barque the Campanero Benjamin Bright Page, 03583- 03584 I wasn't long ashore in the town of Baltimore Recording According to the Act, Mr Hill Page, 03135- 03136 Oh its come all ye lords and gentlemen Music (Lime Juice Act) (The) Alabama and the Kearsarge Clinch, Edw., Page 03718- 03720 It was early Sunday morning 'Tune Warner's "According to the Act".' Around Cape Horn W. Ennis, Page 03593- 03594 Page 03595- 03596 Our ship she was inspected Around Cape Horn William Prosser, Page 03597- 03598 Our ship was called the Cullen Wood Music Around Cape Horn George Simpson, Page 03599 Whilst sailing down the northeast trades Recording: The Sailor's Way A Whaling Captain Daniel Mullins, Page 03733 Tis advertised in Boston, New York and Buffalo Banks of Newfoundland William Prosser, Page 03601- 03602 You rambling boys of pleasure Music (The) Banks of Newfoundland Mr Robinson, Page 03403 One night as I lay sleeping (The) Banks of Newfoundland James Henderson, Page 03606 Ye ramblin boys of pleasures Recording Big Calibar Reece Baldwyn, Page 03609- 03610 Come all ye jovial sailor boys Bold Princess Royal James Forman, Page 03615 On the fourteenth day of February we sailed from the land Music Recording Bold Princess Royal James McLane, Page 03616- 03617 On the fourteenth day of February we sailed from the land Recording Bold Princess Royal Thomas Moore, Page 03618 On the 14 of February we sailed from the land Music Recording Bold Princess Royal James Henderson, Page 03619 On the fifteenth of February we sailed from Graves end Recording (The) Cumberland's Crew Thomas Ginovan, Page 03633- 03634 Oh shipmates gather and join in my ditty Music (The) Cumberland's Crew James Henderson, Page 03635 Come all lads assemble, and listen to my ditty Recording Dark and Rolling Eye William Fender, Page 03636 As I strolled out one evening, to take my night's career Down in the lowlands a fisher boy did wander (first line) James Forman, Page 03353 (The) Dreadnaught Edward B. Trumbull, Page 03647 It's of a fine packet, a packet of fame Music (The) Dreadnaught William Prosser, Page 03648 Oh its of a flash packet, a packet of fame Music (The) Dreadnaught A. A. Foster, Page 03649- 03650 Tis of a flash packet, she's a packet of fame (The) Dreadnaught Robert Yeaman, Page 03653 I will sing of a packet, a packet of fame Recording: Bound Away in the Dread Naught (The) Dreadnaught James Henderson, Page 03654 Now then we are lying down in the Waterloo dock Recording Female Cabin Boy Jimmie Cronin, Page 03137 It's of a female cabin boy as you may understand Music Recording, (The Pretty Cabin Boy) Female Cabin Boy John Gregory, Page 03147 Tis of a pretty female, as you may understand (The) Flying Cloud Jack Frost, Page 03658- 03660 My name is Edward Halliahan, as you may understand (The) Flying Cloud Jack Frost, Page 03661- 03662 My name is Edward Hallihan, as you may understand (The) Flying Cloud Rees Baldwyn, Page 03663- 03664 There is gold and silver to be made my boys Recording: The Flying Cloud, Stately Southerner (The) Girl with the Black Velvet Band W. Rennie, Page 03152 While walking one day down from Balking Recording (Ratcliff Highway) Girls Around Cape Horn James Thornton, Page 03586- 03590 Our ship she's called Cornwall Music: Rounding Cape Horn Harp Without a Crown Benjamin Bright, Page 03669 She's an Irish ship with an Irish crew Recording Hawksbury Banks William Prosser, Page 03671- 03672 One day as I strayed by those Hawksbury banks Music: Maids of Australia Hawksbury Banks William Gaul, Page 03673 On those Hawksbury banks where I played my wild pranks Music: Maids of Australia His Jacket So Blue Captain Charles B. Snellen, Page 03676 A ship's crew of sailors as you now shall hear Music I'll Go To Sea No More Captain Daniel Mullins, Page 03686, 03612 One fine day in the month of May Jackie Comes on Shore Jack Murray, Page 03711- 03712 Jackie comes on shore with his gold and silver in store Jog Along James Forman, Page 03538 O the Coalhill girls they are so mighty fine Music Recording (The) Kearsarge and the Alabama Frank Rhodes, Page 03716- 03717 It was on the eighteenth day of June Lime Juice Act Reece Baldwyn, Page 03722- 03723 Whilst walking out one morning Music Low Lands Fender, Page 03352 There was a jolly privateer as ever sailed the sea Music : The Golden Vanity Music: The Lowlands Recording Low Lands, Low James Forman, Page 03353 Gane is the ship of the old dock tree Music Recording (The) Merhants' Shipping Act Benjamin Bright, Page 03134 What's the use of growling On the Banks of New Foundland W. Rennie, Page 03605 You ramblin boys of pleasure Music Recording Our Anchor Is Up to the Bow Boys Jimmie Cronin, Page 03138 I ne'er shall forget when we parted Music Recording Paddy West Thomas Ginovan, Page 03690- 03691 As I strolled down into Great Howard street Music Paddy West Benjamin Bright, Page 03692 You have heard about the academy of Mr Paddy West Powder Monkey W. Rennie, Page 03389 Listen unto me and a story I will tell Music Recording Powder Monkey Page 03389 Soon we'll be in London town (The) Saucy Rosabella John McPherson, Page 03153 I shipped on board the Rosabella Recording (I Shipped on Board of Rosabella) (The) Seamen's Alphabet J. A. Ronaldson, Page 03564- 03565 A's for the anchor which we oftimes let go Seamen's Alphabet William Dixon, Page 03567 A is the anchor of our gallant ship Music Seamen's Alphabet (Parody) W. Rennie, Page 03566 Our ship she's got a topmast, a good standing stick Music Recording She carried stuns'ls aloft (first line) King, Page 03140 She carried stuns'ls aloft (The) Ship That Never Returned, James Dwyer, Page 03139 Twas a summer morn and the waves did ripple Recording, James Dwyer, John McPherson Sinbad the Sailor Harry Bowling, Page 03572 'Twas like Sinbad the Sailor Sons of the Ocean Santa Curtis, Page 03705- 03709 Ye sons of the ocean, your attention is called Spanish Ladies Richard Warner, Page 03474 Fare well and adieu to you Spanish Ladies Music Spanish Ladies Richard Warner, Page 03475 Fare well and adieu to you Spanish Ladies Fair copy of p.03474 Music Spanish Ladies Stanton King, Page 03476- 03477 Farewell and adieu, to you fair Spanish Ladies Music Swansea Gals Richard Warner, Page 03727- 03728 Come all who love your Nancy Music Swansea Gals Hebron George Mathias, Page 03729- 03730 The stormy cloud is rising Music Ten Thousand Miles Away Captain Lawson, Page 03157- 03158 I'll sing of the brave and the gallant bark Virginia Low Lands Low Albert Morris, Page 03149 Way down in old Virginia not many years ago Music (Virginia Lowlands) White Squall Joseph Bound, Page 03156 The sea was bright and our bark rode well, Music Yo Heave Ho James Cronin, Page 03132- 03133 : My name it is Tom Tough, Music Recording, Royal Alfred Chantey Singer, Jimmy Cronin, |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: shipcmo Date: 07 Jan 11 - 12:28 PM SHANTIES Across the Western Ocean Richard Warner, Page 03495 Times are hard and wages low Music Ah-a-a Juley Mr Robinson, Page 03403 Juley, Juley, she bode ah-ha-a-a Juley Banks of Sacramento J. S. Scott, Page 03374 When I was young and in my prime Music: Hoodah Day Recording Blow Boys Blow Captain Edward B. Trumbull, Page 03210 Yankee ship comes down the river Refrain: Blow, boys blow Music Blow Boys Blow Edward Robinson, Page 03407 Yankee ship coming down the river Recording Blow Boys Blow David Atkinson, Page 03211 A yankee ship comes down the river Blow Boys Blow Thomas Ginovan, Page 03212 Blow, me boys, for I long to hear you Music Blow Boys Blow Roderick Enderson, Page 03213 Blow, my boys, for I long to hear you Blow Boys Blow (long drag) Stanton King, Page 03214 A yankee ship came down the river Music Blow Boys Blow James Wright, Page 03408 A yankee ship comes down the river Recording Blow Boys Blow Robert Yeoman, Page 03215 We're out to sea no land in sight Recording Blow Boys Blow Alexander Henderson, Page 03216 A yankee ship came down the river Recording Blow Boys Blow James Henderson, Page 03217 Oh blow, me boys, I long to hear you Recording, Robert Yeoman, James Henderson Blow Boys Blow Jack Murray, Page 03218 A yankee ship come down the river Recording Blow the Man Down Captain D. F. Mullins, Page 03222 As I was a walking down Ratcliffe Highway Blow the Man Down Frank Waters, Page 03225 Oh blow the man down, bullies, blow the man down Blow the Man Down A. E. Foster, Page 03226 Oh blow the man down, bullies, blow the man down Blow the Man Down Charlton Smith, Page 03227 While strolling along on a bit of a spree Music Blow the Man Down G. Douglas, Page 03228 As Jack was a cruising the beach up and down Blow the Man Down Captain Daniel Mullins, Page 03229 As I was a walking down Paradise Street Blow the Man Down Stanton King, Page 03231- 03232 Oh blow the man down, bullies, knock him right down Music Blow the Man Down "The Bo'sn", Page 03233 Way bully, ho bully, blow the man down Music Blow the Man Down Harry Johnson, Page 03234 Oh humpty dumpty sat on a wall Blow the Man Down Francis Herrshoff, Page 03235 We had an old Captain I don't know his name Blow the Man Down Captain Edward Trumbull, Page 03236,03237 There was an old man and his name it was Brown Music Blow the Man Down J. S. Scott, Page 03238 : Blow the man down, bullies, blow the man down, bullies Recording Blow the Man Down Jimmie Cronin, Page 03239 As I was a walking down Lemon Street Recording, Jimmy Cronin, Royal Alfred Singer, The Bos'n, Harry Johnson Blow the Man Down Benjamin Bright, Page 03240 : I can see you're a Yank by the cut of your hair Recording, (A Roving) Blow the Man Down, Andrew Salters, Page 03241 O blow the man down bullies, blow the man down Music Recording Blow the Man (Down) George Houghton, Page 03242 Blow the man down, bullies, blow the man down Music Recording, Captain H. J. Hammond Blow the Man Down Reece Baldwyn, Page 03243 The priest from the parish with his gallant band Recording Blow the Man Down James Wright, Page 03244 I'll put on my boots and I'll blow the man down Recording Blow the Man Down Alexander Henderson, Page 03245 Oh blow the man high, bullies, blow him sky high Recording Blow the Man Down Robert Yeoman, Page 03246 Blow the man down, bullies, blow the man down Recording Blow the Man Down George Simpson, Page 03247 Blow the man up and we'll blow the man down Recording Blow the Man Down James Henderson, Page 03248 There was an old man lived in Quebeck town Recording Blow the Man Down Dennis O'Connors, Page 03249 As I was a walking one morning in spring [Nearly identical to p. 03250] see also Child 278, The Farmer's Curst Wife Blow the Man Down Dennis O'Connors, Page 03250 As I was a walking one morning in spring [Nearly identical to p. 03249] Blow the Man Down James Garricy, Page 03251 Oh blow the man down, Johnie, blow the man down Music Blow the Man Down Harry Turner, Page 03404 Blow the man down, bullies Blow You Winds This Morning Harry Bowling, Page 03126, 03613 Heave away my hearties Blow You Winds This Morning Harry Bowling, Page 03614 Heave away me hearties Boney Edward Robinson, Page 03406 Boney was a warrior Recording Boney Jimmie Cronin, Page 03257 Oh Boney was a warrior Music Recording, Jimmy Cronin, Royal Alfred Singer Boney Was A Warrior James Forman, Page 03258 Boney was a warrior Recording Boney Was A Warrior James Henderson, Page 03259 Boney was a warrior Recording, James Henderson, Robert Yeoman Boney Was A Warrior Jack Murray, Page 03260 : Bonnie was a warrior Recording Boney William Fender, Page 03261 O Boney was a warrior Recording Bonny Laddie Andrew Salters, Page 03262 Where have you been all the day, Refrain: Bonny Laddy, Hieland laddie! Music (Hieland Laddie) Recording (A) Bottle of Rum James Wright, Page 03408 Recording A Bottle of Gin, a Bottle of Rum and a Bottle of Irish Whiskey O Bound for the Rio Grande Frank Waters, Page 03392 As I was a strolling one morning in May Bound for the Rio Grande Captain Charlton Smith, Page 03393 Where are you going to my pretty maid Music Bound for the Rio Grande Edward B. Trumbull, Page 03397 We're bound away this very day Music Bound for Rio Grande Mr Haughton, Page 03398 Boys man the capstan and let us away Music Bully in the Alley Edward Robinson, Page 03462 John Brown's body in the alley Music Recording Bully in the Alley Edward Robinson, Page 03511 I lost my jacket in the alley Music Bully in the Alley James Forman, Page 03512 O, I lost my coat in Story's Alley Music Recording Can't You Dance the Polka Reece Baldwyn, Page 03265 This old girl, she had no hat Music Recording Can't You Dance the Polka Reece Baldwyn, Page 03266 This old girl, she had no hat [Another, fairer, copy of p.03265] Music Recording Can't You Dance the Polka William Prosser, Page 03267 One day as I went walking down by the Clarence Dock Music Cheerily Men Edward Robinson, Page 03514 Well done and clever, heigh ho Music Recording Dead Horse James Stevenson, Page 03361 They say old man your horse will die (The) Dead Horse Stanton King, Page 03362 Poor old man, your horse is going to die Do My Johnny Boker Stanton King, Page 03343 Oh, do my Johnny Boker Music Fire Away Lilly, Come Down Below Alexander Blue, Page 03517 Fire away Lilly, come down below Music Recording Fire Down Below Mr Robinson, Page 03403 Rovin, rovin, he said to his crew Music Recording Fire Down Below John Rennie Fire Down Below Edward Robinson, Page 03407 Fire, fire fire Recording Go Down Below Jack Murray, Page 03518 Go dow below, you pretty girls, go down below Recording Good-bye Fare You Well Frank Waters, Page 03321 Good-bye ye fair maids, we'll not forget you Halo Ranzo Hay Baldwyn, Page 03270 Oh my name it is John Kelly Music Handy My Boys Richard Warner, Page 03273 Now Handy Andy is my name Music Handy, Me Boys, So Handy John Middleton, Page 03274 A handy ship and a handy crew Music Disc Hanging Johnny Andrew Salters, Page 03262 O they call me hanging Johnny Music Recording Hanging Johnny Stanton King, Page 03354 They call me Hangman Johnnie Music Harp Without A Crown James Dwyer, Page 03411 Hurrah, hurrah, for the girls of Dublin town Recording (The) Harp Without the Crown John Boyd, Page 03520 We'll scrape her down and scrub her around Haul Hereschoff, Page 03525 The next fish that came was a hoary old shark Haul Away Joe Frank Waters, Page 03279 Haul taut the bowline Haul Away Joe Andrew Salters, Page 03280 : Oh haul her on the bowline Music Recording Haul Away Joe Thomas Ginovan, Page 03281 Away, haul away, we never will surrender Music Haul Away Joe Jack Murray, Page 03282 Once I had a nigger girl, and she's got a nigger baby Recording Haul Away Joe William Fender, Page 03283 Away, haul away, come haul and haul together Recording, The Bos'n, Harry Johnson, Perry Haul Away Joe Jimmie Cronin, Page 03285 Away haul away! Come haul away me hearties Music Recording Haul Away My Josie Captain Edward B. Trumbull, Page 03284 Away, haul away, haul away my Josie Haul for the Grog Tom Lucas, Page 03127 Once I had a good hat, an a good hat was he Haul for the Grog Jack Murray, Page 03522 Oh shirts I've got one and the collar it's wore done Recording Haul for the Grog James Henderson, Page 03523 It's haul for the grog Recording Haul the Bowline Jack Murray, Page 03282 Haul in the bowline, keep the ship a rollin Recording Haul the Bowline Harry Perry, Page 03289 Haul the bowline, the big ship's a rolling Haul the Bowline Stanton King, Page 03290 Haul the bowline! The good ship's a rolling Music Haul the Bowline Edward B. Trumbull, Page 03291 Haul the bowline, the main t'gallant bowline Haul Together Stanton King, Page 03524 Oh, the cook's in the galley and I can't get him out Alternative title: Up Steps Herring Music Heave Away Harry Perry, Page 03294 As I walked out one morning Heave Away Stanton King, Page 03295 One morning as I rambled along the Clarence dock Heave Away James Garricy, Page 03296 As I walked out one morning, down by the Clarence Dock Music: Good Morning Mr Tapscott Heave Away William Prosser, Page 03297 Sometimes we're bound for Liverpool Music: We're All Bound to Go Heave Away Roderick Enderson, Page 03298 Tell me, Susan, tell me dear, what makes you look so gay [Handwritten bawdy verses] Heave Away W. Rennie, Page 03299 There was a jolly ploughboy, ploughing on the land Alternative title: Tapscott Music [Tapscott] Recording [We're All Bound to Go] Heave Away J. S. Scott, Page 03526 Don't you hear what the Captain say Alternative title: South Australia Music Recording: South Australia Hog Eye Man Captain John Conway, Page 03305 Sally in the garden sifting sand Music Hogeye Man Captain Mark Page, Page 03306 I was a-strolling down Pall Mall Recording Edward Robinson, [Mark Page] The Hog-eye man Edward Robinson, Page 03307 Reach me down my riding cane Recording Hogeye Man Rees Baldwyn, Page 03308 We'll cat and fish the anchor when we're going out to sea Recording Hogs Eye Reece Baldwyn, Page 03309 O Sally on the mainyard a-pickin' up the bunt Recording Hiland Laddie Captain Hammond, Page 03310 O where has ye been all the day Hieland Laddie Thomas Carfrae, Page 03311 Whar hae ye been all the day Music Recording Hieland Laddie David Atkinson, Page 03313 Where ha ye been all the day Hieland Laddie John Boyd, Page 03314 Were you ever in Quebeck Music Hielan Laddie Jack Murray, Page 03315 Hey, ho, and away we go Recording Bonnie Hielan Laddie Hilo Boys Edward Robinson, Page 03406 Hilo, boys, hilo Recording Hilo, Boys, Hilo Mr Robinson, Page 03403 Hilo, boys, hilo Music Recording Hog Eye Man Baldwyn, Page 03677 Sally in the main yard That's all there is. Recording: Hogeye Man, Hog's Eye Man Hoist Her Up From Down Below J. S. Scott, Page 03527, 03528 Down below oh-ho-ho Music Recording Homeward Bound Harry Perry, Page 03320 We're homeward bound for New York town Homeward Bound Page 03322 & 03323 I thought I heard the old man say Alternative title: Good-bye, Fare You Well Recording [Good Bye Fare Ye Well] Homeward Bound Harry Turner, Page 03324 Its as we arrive in the Mill Wall docks Song Text Outward Bound Hoodah Day Thomas Ginovan, Page 03373 Whose that gal with the blue dress on Music Hoodah Day Edward B. Trumbull, Page 03379 As I was a walking down Liverpool street Music Hopjint Reece Baldwyn, Page 03529 We'll cat and fish the anchor and we're going out to sea How Can I Row the Boat Ashore Mark Page, Page 03530 How can I row the boat ashore Music Recording How Can I Row the Boat Ashore Mark Page, Page 03531 How can I row the boat ashore Nearly identical to p.03530. (A) Humble-lee Robert Yeaman, Page 03532 A humble-lee an a humble-lo Recording (A) Hundred Years Ago, Jas Wright, Page 03128 A hundred years is a very long time (A) Hundred Years Ago Captain Edward Robinson, Page 03330 Watchman, Watchman! Don't take me Music Recording (A) Hundred Years Ago William Beggs, Page 03331 A hundred years is a very long time Music (A) Hundred Years Ago Albert Morris, Page 03332 One hundred years ago, my lad (A) Hundred Years Ago James Forman, Page 03333 Oh Jonah was the man that swallowed the whale (A) Hundred Years Ago James Wright, Page 03334 A hundred years is a very long time (A) Hundred Years Ago William Fender, Page 03335 Was you ever in Quebeck Recording I Saw an Elephant John Conway, Page 03537 I saw an elephant chase a flea Music Ilo Man William Fender, Page 03533 O the ducks and the geese they are swimmin down the river Recording: Huckleberry Hunting , Ilo Man In the Morning W. Thomas, Page 03535 Oh I went down the river in an old steamboat, Music Jamboree Edward Robinson, Page 03406 Jamboree, oh Jamboree Recording Jim Crow Andrew Salters, Page 03339 I went a courting pretty Fie Song Text Victoria Music: Jim Crow Music: Victoria Recording: Very Well Done Jim Crow Recording: Victorio I Saw an Elephant John Conway, Page 03537 I saw an elephant chase a flea Music John Surran John Conway, Page 03542 Oh, John Surran was a little old man Johnny Boker Harry Perry, Page 03342 Oh do my Johnny Boker Johnie Poker John Middleton, Page 03344 Roll my Johnie Poker Music Recording Johnny Boker Captain Alexander Blue, Page 03345 Do my Johnny Boker Music Recording Johnny's Gone to Hilo Harry Bowling, Page 03491 Oh Johnny's gone; what shall I do Johnnie Boker Jack Murray, Page 03346 Oh do my Johnny Boker Recording Leaky Ship William Fender, Page 03544 Here we come home in a leaky ship Recording Leave Her, Johnny Mr Robinson, Page 03403 We'll pump her out and go on shore Music Recording Leave Her Johnny George Boyle, Page 03328 Leave her down in London town Recording Leave Her, Johnny, Leave Her Stanton King, Page 03326 Oh the times are hard and the wages low Music London Juley Captain Alexander Blue, Page 03546 London Juley is a very pretty gal Music Recording (A) Long Time Ago Richard Warner, Page 03348 Away down south where I was born Music (A) Long Time Ago Harry Perry, Page 03349 Away down South where I was born Low Lands William Fender, Page 03350 I wish I was in Mobile Bay Recording Low Lands William Fender, Page 03351 I thought I heard our old man say Recording Mammie Dido David Anton, Page 03547 Old mammie Dido had a lovely daughter Mary's On the Island James Stevenson, Page 03548 And a hoo-ding dong, and a hoodah Music Mary's On the Island Capt. Chas. Yule, Page 03549 Way are[?] ladies Mary's On the Island Mark Page, Page 03549 O yonders, Mary, yonder Recording Mind How You Swing Your Tail John Middleton, Page 03550 O the people in da Souf dey've all got tails Music Recording Old Horse Thomas Ginovan, Page 03360 I hear, old man, you've been and bought a horse Music Old Horse L. F. Herreshoff, Page 03363 Old horse! Old horse! How came you here Old Horse Captain Edward B. Trumbull, Page 03364 Old horse! Old horse! How came you here Old Joe Edward Ashbury, Page 03552 Sweet Hambone, sonny boys Music Old Stormalong Frank Waters, Page 03483 Old Stormalong was a marriner [sic] bold On a Visit Sunday Mark Page, Page 03553 When first in London I arrived Music Recording One More Day Captain Edward B. Trumbull, Page 03367 Only one more day, my darling One More Day Stanton King Page, 03368 Only one more day of pumping Music One More Day Andrew Salters, Page 03369 One more day me Johnny Music Recording One More Day James Forman, Page 03370 One more day, me Johnny Music Recording On the Banks of the Sacramento Captain Charlton L. Smith, Page 03372 Went to the river and I couldn't get across Music: Doodah Day Outward Bound Harry Turner, Page 03404 We're outward bound for Melbourne town Paddy Doyle Andrew Salters, Page 03382 To me way-hey-hey-yah Music Recording Paddy Doyle Edward Robinson, Page 03383 To me way-ay, hey-ay, hey-yah Recording Paddy Doyle Jack Murray, Page 03384 To me way, ay, ay yah Recording Paddy Works on the Railway William "Paddy" Gaul, Page 03388 Oh in eighteen hundred and forty one Music Paddy Works on the Railway Edward Robinson, Page 03407 In eighteen hundred and fifty one Recording Poor Old Man James Henderson, Page 03365 Poor old man came ridin by Recording: James Henderson , Robert Yeoman Poor Paddy Works on the Railway Mark Page, Page 03385 In eighteen hundred and fifty-one Music Recording Pull Down Below Reece Baldwyn, Page 03556 All my time I've been courting Allie Music Recording: I Went to Church I Went to Chapel, Pull Down Below Pull Down Below Reece Baldwyn, Page 03557 I went to church I went to chapel Music Notation: Pull Down Below Recording: I Went to Church I Went to Chapel, Pull Down Below Ranzo Reece Baldwyn, Page 03431 O Ranzo was no sailor Recording Ranzo Robert Yeoman, Page 03432 Poor old Ruben Ranzo Recording Ranzo Edward Robinson Jr., Page 03433 Oh Ranzo was no sailor Recording: Ranzo Boys Ranzo Ranzo James Henderson, Page 03434 Pity poor Ruben Ranzo Ranzo Edward Robinson, Page 03406 Ranzo, boys, Ranzo Recording Ranzo Page 03427 O where are you bound to, Ranzo Ranzo, Boys, Ranzo John Macaulay, Page 03428 O Ranzo was no sailor Music Recording Ranzo Was No Sailor Walter Ede, Page 03429 O Ranzo was no sailor Music Recording Ranzo Way James Wright, Page 03130 I'm going away to leave you toward the middle of the (unclear), Recording Reuben Ranzo Thomas Ginovan, Page 03417- 03418 Oh poor old Reuben Ranzo Music Reuben Ranzo Charlton Smith, Page 03419- 03420 O roving, Reuben Ranzo Music Reuben Ranzo Captain Edward B. Trumbull, Page 03422 Oh Ranzo was no sailor Reuben Ranzo A. E. Foster, Page 03423 Oh Ranzo was no sailor Rio Eade, Page 03395 Where are you going to, my pretty maid Recording Rio Grande Thomas Ginovan, Page 03394 As I was a walking one morning in May Music Rio Grande Stanton King, Page 03396 Rio Grande is no place for me Rio Grande James McLain, Page 03401 O Rio Grande is a pretty fine place Recording Roll & Carry It Along (The Chariot Along) George Simpson, Page 03562 And we'll roll, we'll roll, we'll carry it along Recording: The Rolling Chariot Rolling Chariot John Boyd, Page 03561 Oh we'll roll, we'll roll the old chariot along Row, Bullies, Row Capt. H. J. Hammond, Page 03697 From New York to Frisco, California we went Alternative title: Rounding Cape Horn Row Me Ashore Captain Captain W. Dalziel, Page 03563 Oh Captain row me ashore Music Row, Row, Bullies, Row John Boyd, Page 03696 One night off Cape Horn, I remember it well Music : Lidigo Man - Conway Ruben Ranzo Jack Murray, Page 03430 Oh Ranzo was no sailor Recording Run, Let the Bulgine Run Jack Murray, Page 03436 New York is on fire Recording Run Let the Bulgine Run William Fender, Page 03437 The bulgine's come and we all must go-o Recording Run Let the Bulgine Run William Fender, Page 03438 The bulgine's come and we all must go Recording Run with the Bulgine James Dwyer, Page 03411 Run with the bulgine Music Recording Run With the Bulgine James Forman, Page 03435 O London docks is on fire Music Recording Sacramento Mark Page, Page 03378 Camp Town races nine mile long Music: Hoodah Day Recording: Hoodah Day Recording: Camp Town Races Sally Brown A. E. Foster, Page 03441 Sally Brown was a creole lady Sally Brown Thomas Ginovan, Page 03442 Sally Brown was a gay old lady Music Notation Sally Brown Benjamin Bright, Page 03443 Sally Brown was a bright creole Sally Brown Captain Edward B. Trumbull, Page 03444 Sally Brown's a bright mullato Music Sally Brown J. S. Scott, Page 03445 You know Sally Brown is a bright mullato Recording Sally Brown Francis Herreschoff, Page 03446 Sally Brown, I love your daughter Sally Brown Stanton King, Page 03447 Sally Brown is a bright mullato Sally Brown James Wright, Page 03448 Sally Brown was a bright mullato Recording Sally Brown Robert Yeoman, Page 03449 Sally Brown I love your daughter Recording Sally Brown James Henderson, Page 03450 Oh Sally Brown I long to hear you Recording Sally Brown Jack Murray, Page 03451 Oh Sally Brown I love your daughter Recording Sally Brown George Simpson, Page 03452 Sally's daughter lived over the water Recording Santa Anna Stanton King, Page 03455 Santa Anna gained the day Santa Anna A. E. Foster, Page 03456 Santa Anna gained the day Santy Anna David Atkinson, Page 03457 Santy Anna sailed away Santa Anna Captain Edward B. Trumbull, Page 03458 Santa Anna, as I've heard say Santa Anna Jack Murray, Page 03459 It's Santa Anna, the yellow girls go Santa Anna William Fender, Page 03460 Santa Anna gained the day Recording Santy Anna William Fender, Page 03461 Santa Anna gained the day Recording Santa Anna Edward Robinson, Page 03462 Hurrah, Santa Anna Recording Shake Her, Wake Her Captain Blue, Page 03570 Have you been in Mobile Bay Music Shake Her, Wake Her James Wright, Page 03571 I once was rich and had lots of tin Recording: Johnnie Come Down to Hilo Shallow Brown John Kenedy, Page 03471 Oh have you been to Dixie? Music Shanadore John Middleton, Page 03469 Shanadore, I long to hear you Recording Shenandoah Garricy, James, Page 03466 Oh Shenandoah, I'm going to leave you Music: Western Ocean Sing Sally-O Harry Bowling, Page 03575 Say Mister Stevedore Storm Along Stanton King, Page 03485 Stormy's gone, that good old man Stormalong Harry Johnson, Page 03482 Stormalong was a good old man Stormalong Harry Perry, Page 03484 Oh storm to-day and storm no more South Australia Reece Baldwyn, Page 03577 Have you seen my bowery queen Recording Tally-i-o James Wright, Page 03579 Tally-i-o was a jolly old soul Recording: Tally Aye O Tapscott (Irish Version) John Ferries, Page 03300- 03301 As I went out one morning, on the road to Clarence Dock Recording Tapscott Ten Stone, Ten Stone, the Winter's Over Captain Alexander Blue, Page 03580 O have you been in Mobile Bay Music Recording Tom's Gone to Ilo Stanton King, Page 03489 Tommy's gone, what shall I do Music Tom's Gone to Ilo J. S. Scott, Page 03490 Tommy's gone to Liverpool Recording Tommie's Gone to Hilo Jack Murray, Page 03492 Tommie's gone and I'll go to Recording Victoria Andrew Salters, Page 03409 Victoria, Victoria Song Text Jim Crow Music : Jim Crow Music: Victoria Recording: Very Well Done Jim Crow Recording :Victoria Victorio James Forman, Page 03410 Victorio, Victorio Music Recording: Victorio Jim Crow Victori-o James Dwyer, Page 03411 Victoria, Victorio Music Recording We'll Pay Paddy Doyle for His Boots Stanton King, Page 03381 To me way- hey- hey-ya Music: Hang Paddy Doyle Western Ocean Mark Page, Page 03496 Two dollars a day is the usual pay Music Recording Where Are You Going To, My Pretty Maid [Broadside text] Page 03399 Where are you going to, my pretty maid Where Are You Going To, My Pretty Maid Walter Ede, Page 03400 Where are you going to, my pretty maid Music Where hae ye been all the day (first line) Mr Robinson, Page, 03403 Where hae ye been all the day Whiskey Johnnie John Middleton, Page 03502 O whiskey is the life of man Recording Whiskey Johnny Page 03130 Oh whiskey is the life of man Whiskey Johnny Harry Turner, Page 03404 Whiskey is the life of man Whiskey Johnny Edward Robinson, Page 03407 Whiskey is the life of man Recording Whiskey Johnny Andrew Salters, Page 03409 O whiskey is the life of man Recording Whiskey Johnny Francis Herreshoff, Page 03500 Whiskey makes the winds to blow Whiskey Johnny Stanton King, Page 03501 Oh, whiskey is the life of man; Music Whiskey Johnny Harry Perry, Page 03503 Oh whiskey is the life of man Whiskey Johnny James Henderson, Page 03504 Whiskey is the life of man Recording Whiskey Johnnie Robert Yeaman, Page 03505 Whiskey is the life of man Recording Whiskey Johnny Jack Murray, Page 03506 Whiskey is the life of man Recording (The) Wide Missouri Captain Trumbull, E. B., Page 03467 Oh Shenandoah, I love your daughter Wide Missouri Stanton King, Page 03468 Oh Shenandoah, I love your daughter Music Zanzibar Negro Work Chanty Edward B. Trumbull, Page 03581 Whitee manee, he no savey; Music: Kizimakazy Way |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Gibb Sahib Date: 23 Aug 11 - 05:30 PM Forgive me if this question has been asked. Does anyone know where, in the current on-line manifestation of the Collection, the descriptors "shanty," "forebitter," etc come from? In other words, are they from Carpenter's notes (which he may or may not have made based on what informants told him) or are they tags created by the current archivists (Bob Walser, etc)? Some recordings and texts, that pretty obviously correspond to one another, are labeled "forebitter" for one format and "shanty" for another. Would Carpenter even have used the term "forebitter"? And he would have used the CH spelling of shanty, so there is *some* degree of interpretation, even if insignificant, in the current archive notes. Surely we know that the songs crossed categories. I only ask because one of my interests is in what songs historically were categorised by singers as "shanty." So I am wondering if the label "forebitter", in the archive, is a good indicator that that particular singer did not conceptualize the song as a shanty. |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Gibb Sahib Date: 24 Aug 11 - 02:37 AM Is "All for the Grog"/"Haul for the Grog" some form of the well-known "It's all for me grog, me jolly jolly grog, etc"? |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Snuffy Date: 24 Aug 11 - 02:44 AM It certainly is, what little there is on the recording - 22 seconds All For The Grog (James Henderson, Dundee) All for the grog, the jolly, jolly grog All for your pipes and tobacco For I've spent all my tin on yon ladies drinking gin And across the briny ocean I must wander |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Snuffy Date: 24 Aug 11 - 02:55 AM Versions also collected from the following (no recordings issued, so only first line available) Rennie William, South Shields, England - O I had a little boat, a jolly little boat Methias George & Warner Richard, Cardiff, Wales - Aul for the grog Bowling Harry, Los Angeles, USA - I have an old shoe with never a back or tongue Lucas Tom, Cricklade, England - Once I had a good hat, an a good hat was he Murray Jack, Aberdeen, Scotland - Oh shirts I've got one and the collar it's wore done |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Gibb Sahib Date: 24 Aug 11 - 02:58 AM Cool, thanks! Next question (!) What kind of "Stormalong"-s are we dealing with here? With the "aye aye Mr. Stormalong" refrain, or others? (I ask because, again, I am working on sorting the material, and I have been keeping track of the historical "appearances" of the various Stormalongs.) |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Gibb Sahib Date: 24 Aug 11 - 03:02 AM I wonder if "haul" was really meant at all in any of the variations, or if Carpenter merely interpreted "all" to be a possible "haul" with the characteristic "missing H" of many UK English speakers. E.g. The American, Harry Bowling's, is not represented by "haul". |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Snuffy Date: 24 Aug 11 - 03:28 AM Stormalong (William Fender, Barry) Old Storm Along went across the main To me way, Stormalong I wish I was old Stormy's son Aye, aye, aye, Mr Stormalong Stormalong (Edward Robinson, Sunderland) Oh, poor old Stormy's dead and gone Aye, aye, Mr Stormalong Oh, Stormy's gone where the winds* don't blow To me way, hay, Stormalong Oh, Stormy's gone where the winds* don't blow Aye, aye, Mr Stormalong *wind is pronounced "wined" |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Gibb Sahib Date: 24 Aug 11 - 03:40 AM Excellent!!! Last (??!) question: What do you make of "Jamaringo" and "Charmaringo? They seem to be "Jamboree," but funny that Carpenter would have left the titles so inconsistent. Echoes of "Fire Marengo" in the words, but a red herring, I think. |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Snuffy Date: 24 Aug 11 - 08:01 AM Neither of these are on the recordings released on Folktrax, so we can't tell what tune was used. I suppose it could possibly be a cross-over with Jamboree lyrics bolted onto Fire Marengo tune and/or choruses, but Jamboree is rhyming triplet + refrain and chorus, while FM is long-drag in structure. |
Subject: RE: James Madison Carpenter shanties From: Gibb Sahib Date: 13 Sep 11 - 08:28 PM I've been tinkering around with what is available -- remotely -- in the Collection, shanty-wise. Here are some of the results: http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=128220#3221736 Specifically, here's a list attempting to describe the chanty contents available in audio AND/OR text. (crossposted in long, Advent of Chanties thread) The Carpenter Collection contains some 98 different chanty-forms, by my tally. Here they are, followed by the numbers of time a variant of each occurs. A ROVING (6) ACROSS THE WESTERN OCEAN (2) ALL FOR ME GROG (8) Billibirumpidoodlupiday" ("Oh goin down the river…") BLOW BOYS BLOW (17) Blow high, blow low" BLOW THE MAN DOWN (26) BLOW YE WINDS BONEY (8) BOTTLE O BOWLINE (9) BULLY IN ALLEY (2) [remove one] Captain row me ashore" CHEERLY (3) CHURCH CHAPEL Dance Callidio" DEAD HORSE (8) + DEAD HORSE? Down in the Meadows" ("As I was a walking down the street") Down in those Valleys" ("Aye, aye, aye, Bendigo") DOWN TRINIDAD DRUNKEN SAILOR (5) Fire away Lily, come down below" FIRE DOWN BELOW (5) FIRE FIRE FIRE FISHES + FISHES? (2) GALS OF DUBLIN TOWN (2) Go down below, you pretty girls, go down below" GOODBYE FARE YOU WELL (5) HANDY MY BOYS (3) HANGING JOHNNY (5) HAUL AWAY JOE (14) Haul away Rosie. Rosie haul" HEAVE AWAY MY JOHNNIES (10) Here we come home in a leaky ship" HIGHLAND (13) HILO BOYS HOGEYE (4) HOOKER JOHN (2) [remove one] How can I row the boat ashore without a paddle or an oar" HUCKLEBERRY HUNTING (6) Humble-lee and a humble-lo" HUNDRED YEARS (6) I saw an elephant chase a flea" In the Morning" ("I went down the river in an old steamboat") IRISH EMIGRANT ("Lay me down") (2) JAMBOREE (7) John Surran was a little old man" JOHNNY BOWKER (7) JOHNNY COME DOWN TO HILO (2) + JOHNNY COME DOWN TO HILO? John's a rookey ookey" Juber mind the bee, and mind it while I sing" Kizee, Makazee, yah" LEAVE HER JOHNNY (6) LONDON JULIE (2) LONG TIME AGO (11) LOWLANDS AWAY (2) LUCIANNA (3) + LUCIANNA? Mind how you swing your tail" MR. STORMALONG (3) + MR. STORMALONG? (4) MUDDER DINAH + MUDDER DINAH? NEW YORK GIRLS (4) Nothin' but a humbug" On a Visit Sunday" ("When first in London I arrived…") Once I had a good hat, an a good hat was he" ONE MORE DAY (5) OUTWARD AND HOMEWARD BOUND PADDY DOYLE (6) PADDY LAY BACK (5) PADDY ON THE RAILWAY (4) Poor little Liza, don't say so" Pull down below" ("Johnny come down to Hilo…") RANZO RAY + RANZO RAY? (2) REUBEN RANZO (14) + REUBEN RANZO? RIO GRANDE (10) RISE HER UP ("Hoist her up from down below" ) ROLL BULLIES ROLL (2) ROLL THE COTTON DOWN (7) ROLL THE OLD CHARIOT ALONG (2) ROLLING HOME (3) ROSABELLA (2) RUN LET THE BULGINE (5) SACRAMENTO (7) SALLY BROWN (14) SALLY RACKET? ("Old mamie Hackett") SALT HORSE RHYME? (2) SANTIANA (13) SHALLOW BROWN (4) SHENANDOAH (6) SOUTH AUSTRALIA (2) TALLY TEN STONE TOMMY'S GONE (8) VICTORIO (4) Walk along you Saucy Anna" We're the Boys to Drive Her Right" Were you ever in Fairy [?]" WHISKEY JOHNNY (17) White Man Thinks that a Nigger Can't Steal" |
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