Broadstairs 2009

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: banjoman
Date: 23 Jan 09 - 07:27 AM

I have been following this thread and have waited till now to throw in my twopenny worth. We have been regulars at BFW as part of the Old Trout Band for 20? years playing for Hobby Horse Club, Pub Sessions, Ceilidhs and running workshops. It really is a great week and caters for most tastes. I have had a few problems at the camp site, mainly due to my being disabled, but there has always been cooperation in sorting things out. As a former Festival Organiser (albeit not on the same scale as BFW) I can understand the problems that Jo and Kim face , especially this year with the economic climate as it is. They need all the support we cam give them if we want the festival to continue.
I say well done and keep up the good work. There will always be moaners no matter what you do, I respect everyones right to express their opinion, but have a thought for those who are working to keep the music and dance alive

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 23 Jan 09 - 10:16 AM

banjoman!!!

We have just settled down again on this thread, and then you chip in!! Please read all of the posters comments - yes, we have expressed our comments, many negative, but all of us have equally finished all of our posts with what a grand effort both the organisers and stewards put into the week. Expressing your opinion is not moaning.

OK, back to the cool, laidback Broadstairs thread where we are now happy with each other :-)

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 23 Jan 09 - 01:23 PM

It's the Great British Spirit, isn't it? You're all standing there, ration books in hand, in a queue, under your umbrellas, and what are you doing?




























WAITING FOR A f*****g BUS!

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: BB
Date: 23 Jan 09 - 02:53 PM

Thanks for all those positive comments about the singarounds - we try to please - but it's really about the people that come to them and what they contribute to them. Lots of good songs and singing, music, poems, jokes - and good listening too! Sorry we're a bit too respectable for you, Richard, but perhaps what that means is respect for those who are performing - I'm not sure.

Dead Horse made a comment a while back about deserting the singarounds for cajun music. Well, you could always get the cajun music to the singarounds - we'd love it!

But that did make me think - there aren't many 'folk' festivals where you can hear cajun, blues, gipsy swing, country, etc., all in the main mix, as it were - and they *are* all part of the folk heritage. So while we may all find styles of music that we don't much like, or even approve of being included in a 'folk' festival, I think we're lucky in getting to hear some very classy stuff that we wouldn't perhaps hear elsewhere.

Also, perhaps because Kim doesn't have all the baggage that goes with being a dyed-in-the-wool folkie, she tends to respond to listening to stuff that people send her, and booking what appeals, whether or not they are young, old, 'names' or not - that way, I've heard some people that were very new to me, some of whom I could have done without, but others that I've really enjoyed and wanted to hear more of. Thank goodness for her range of taste!

Barbara

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: romany man
Date: 25 Jan 09 - 05:03 AM

great that would see more people happy, folk comes in all styles and genres, if you dont like one thing try another, yes a good idea lets see if it happens, banjoman, just leave the thread alone we are trying to get back on track and i think we are doing so quite well, the crap has been and gone, if you want to stir it up again do it on your own time and in another place, weve all learned lessons, you obviously have not, so get your bus and go far far away. im with mr bridge.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 15 Feb 09 - 05:56 AM

I've just pinched this off the official Broadstairs website (link in the Original Posting)-

"This year there will be a full programme of late night events held at the school for those who want an alternative to the late night dancing at the Pavilion. These events will include a Music Hall with Lynne Heraud & Pat Turner, Mac & Dawn's famous Quiz Night, a night of Americana hosted by Trevor Stephenson, and a night of Morris Mayhem hosted by Wantsum. Plus Woodshed host Bob Kenward leaves the comfort of the Wrotham Arms to host the first session on Friday 7th, and there will be a Big Session on Thursday where you can all show off what you have learned during the week"

what do you reckon - are they listening?

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Feb 09 - 07:08 AM

They had something very like that two years ago. I must be awkward, to me that means there are only two nights with anything worth doing at the School - the two sessions.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: banjoman
Date: 15 Feb 09 - 08:31 AM

Romany Man - i find your response to my contribution somewhat offensive - I suggest that if that is the level you have to descend to in making a contribution to a thread, then I pity you and suggest you find your own bus to get on. I do read threads very carefully and my contribution I felt was valid and was never intended to "Stir up" anything.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Feb 09 - 10:39 AM

With respect Banjoman, it was you who termed those with suggestions for improvements "moaners".

If the festival is convinced that its own bus would not be self-financing, and would be an excessive drain on resources, how about a list of the existing public bus times and a map of the stop locations, and indeed a list of the pickup points an approximate times of the current festival minibus (officially, I think, for booked bands only), with the camping information?

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Feb 09 - 11:18 AM

I have wasted a fair amount of time trying and failing to find exact details but it looks as if the "Thanet Loop" might be useful - but there seems to be no map showing where its stops are and the descriptions on the timetable are vague. It may turn off down St Peter's road which is OK if you are on the front field but not the back.

The "weekly rider" ticket would be good value at £8 (but I expect you would need two, since the weekend splits the week), the evening frequencies are lower, and the biggest but is that the last bus in the evening would probably be too early (and swamped by people dashing out of concerts).

I can't believe it is so hard to find out what the bus facilities are!

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: romany man
Date: 15 Feb 09 - 01:38 PM

I can get a (or is it an) insured for hire, mini bus, my cousin uses it for the school run and private hire, he knows broadstairs, he knows the festival, and more importantly he knows the law, now if folk want me to pursue this line i will, he reckons that a pound a head each run only during the evening and night till about midnight, will see him ok,( but dont think he will run you if you are in his eyes too pissed,) but he will have to look at what sort of regularity would be feasable, now thats what i call progress and no red tape. Now he will have to come from bedfordshire, there must be a local if this dont work or he blanks us,

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Feb 09 - 02:48 PM

I think it would be very worth putting that up to the committee, Romany Man. The evening travel is likely to be a rush down to the town at about 7 till 8, then a quiet period then a rush back at midnight.

BTW, you know the slim young girl with bad teeth and curly hair who dances about in the pub (the Nags)? I overheard her telling someone the other day that she was "a Gipsy" - from the look of her hair I would guess Irish origin - maybe another long lost relative?

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 12:58 PM

I have had a route map from stagecoach. The Thanet Loop turns off to St Peters just after the station - so is little use.

The 9 runs past the school- but it doesn't run on Sundays or after about 7 pm.

So it's up to private enterprise or the committee.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 02:30 PM

sounds like it's up to private enterprise - ouch!

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: romany man
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 01:22 PM

Ill talk to cousin Bill see ifn his mini bus is viable, 14 seats all insured for hire and reward, pound a head, dont seem to bad, but ifn it dont seem folks want it then well no option but walk up that bloody hill, any one got a stenna, more important ifn he gets better offer,                   well he is a business man .

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 06:28 PM

I really really do suggest a conversation with the organisers, RM.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,Skywalker
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 06:31 PM

Do they have hills in Broadstairs??? Whitby Folk Week, now they have real hills...

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Dead Horse
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 11:48 PM

Its the "hill" that all the bus "moaners" are on about.
Richard, if you tell the driver which tent you are occupying and ask him nicely, I'm sure he will oblige.
Personally, if the bus gets me from the bottom of that bloody hill to the top I shall be most happy.
Once or twice, early in the week, I can manage the walk up.
Come midweek I dread it, even after suitable liquid refreshment.
And I saw absolutely nothing in Banjomans post to take umbrage about.
He merely said that there always moaners, which is perfectly true.
He did not suggest that either you or Kev were among them.
I reckon that you, and especially Kev, are far too touchy on that subject.
The price of ale nowadays, the increase in the size of the hill, the young yobboes, the unsuitable non-folk music, the unseasonable weather which seems to me to be a case of "Global Wetting" and one hundred and one other items that I could go on about - they are my constant moans. (most of which are totally unreasonable, but I still moans cos I is gettin' old an' I likes moanin' so there!)
I shall e-mail Kim to see if I can a free weeks ticket if I host a Moaners Workshop every night in the school :-)

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,dillie the oast ouse opper
Date: 18 Feb 09 - 06:24 AM

I think you'll find dead horse that my dad is a champion moaner...
maybe you could run a workshop together? However, they'd have to be short, cos he'd fall asleep half way through....ha ha!

top on his list of moans:
people who call him 'santa' - if you must do it, it's father christmas...
no disabled parking near beer.
laws preventing him from combining driving with beer
'country and bloody western'
people what don't do cotswold proper
people what do longsword too slowly...
people who drink lager out of a tankard
people who drink coca cola out of tankards
the weather
us kids 'when will you lot get married??!'
the price of bread
moaning about my mum moaning at him all the time for eating all the nice bread
his knee
his other knee
and others depending on the latest government announcement about pensions/old people/bus passes/taxes etc etc

so I reckon that's a weeks worht of workshops there!

Charlotte xx

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 18 Feb 09 - 07:21 AM

Dead Horse - I am NOT touchy on any subject - I merely express my views in a open and honest way (too honest for some people!). I didn't take offence at anything Banjoman said in particular - just pointed out that we had had a period of bitching and back biting and that it was time for more positive posts again. I think if you read back a little, you will find that it was Romany Man who blew his top at Banjoman and not I. He is also merely airing his views, which does not make him touchy either.

Anyway, you know my views on this subject, so there is little point in stating them again. Hope the issue with the bus gets sorted.

Kev (chilled, relaxed and looking forward to the uear ahead)

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 18 Feb 09 - 07:39 AM

I, however, am grumpy.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 18 Feb 09 - 10:19 AM

We wouldn't have you any other way Hoff!! :-) Good to see you last night at the Angel. It was a good evening.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: romany man
Date: 18 Feb 09 - 01:07 PM

now ifn ya want moanin             nah i wont i said i wouldnt and i wont, well maybe a bit, or a bit more, hope no one belives in gypsy curses cos i do a good line in em          oh an they do work i can assure you, i put one on kev an is spellins gone wonky, see his last post last line , hee hee

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 29 Mar 09 - 05:50 PM

Cut and paste from the official website -

SESSION SPACE
Posted: Friday 13th March 2009

We are delighted to announce that Ye Olde Crown in the High Street will this year open its doors to all musicians who need a place to sit and play. From midday to closing time throughout the festival the pub, which is under new management, is offering a warm welcome with promises of real ale and a large room just waiting for musicians......
This is of course in addition to the more organised sessions held lunchtimes and evenings at the Lord Nelson and the afternoon Woodshed session at the Wrotham Arms

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Mar 09 - 03:09 AM

That is a very positive development - so long as they include "sing" as well as "play".

Pretty well all we need now is a bus service...

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: The Barden of England
Date: 30 Mar 09 - 05:10 AM

A very good development indeed. Well done 'Ye Olde Crown' and the festival organisers.
John Barden

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: melodeonboy
Date: 30 Mar 09 - 09:13 AM

Good news indeed!

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: romany man
Date: 31 Mar 09 - 03:51 AM

Now we are moving, well done

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 13 Apr 09 - 04:14 PM

Jen at the Wrotham Arms has a couple of events coming up for the Mayday weekend

Friday May 1st at 20.30 she has Norcsalordie
Saturday May 2nd at 21.30 is Blind Summat

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,Broadie Boy
Date: 13 Apr 09 - 07:51 PM

http://www.broadstairsfolkweek.org.uk/?page=news

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: wrotham-arms-jen
Date: 14 Apr 09 - 06:28 AM

thanks rafflesbear - please note that both norcsalordie and blind summat! will start at 8:30pm. hope to see some more catters here!
jen

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: wrotham-arms-jen
Date: 14 Apr 09 - 06:38 AM

...and for those that dont know BLIND SUMMAT! - they consist of Wendy Arrowsmith (Voice, Guitar, Accordion, Whistles, Mandolin) Joolz Cavell (Voice, Guitar, Cajon, Congas & lots of percussion), Rebekah Findlay (Voice, Fiddle, Guitar, Whistles, Accordion) and Paul Arrowsmith (Banjo, Banjola and Voice). They don't get down to these parts, south of the arctic circle very often, so please give them your support. I understand that they are also playing at Deal Folk Club on Friday but since this is a Broadstairs thread I don't need to mention that .... and anyway you would miss the amazing Norcsalordie at the Wrotham Arms on Friday!

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 14 Apr 09 - 03:33 PM

sorry about the mix up on timing Jen - I got 21.30 from the Blind Summat Myspace website - I hope they know the right time

and yes, I think Norcsalordie on Friday and Blind Summat Saturday works well :-)

Let's see some catters down there - Jen deserves it for services to folk music

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 26 Apr 09 - 04:43 PM

This is a page worth keeping an eye on for anyone in striking distance of Broadstairs

Wrotham Arms

Looks like the dust will hardly settle on Folk Week before Jen presents her own Music Festival on August Bank Holiday weekend. Already booked are The Hot Rats Duo, The Sally Ironmonger Trio, Norcsalordie, Gerry McNeice, The Odd Squad and Jumbo Gumbo!!!

Nice work Jen

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Banjiman
Date: 26 Apr 09 - 05:41 PM

Thanks Rafflesbear and Jen. Yes, we do know the start time, didn't know it was wrong on MySpace though. We're staying at The Wrotham on Friday night as well. Shame (in a way!) we are at Deal or we would have enjoyed Norcsalordie on Friday I'm sure (I've checked 'em on You Tube).
Wonder if they'll be hanging around for a late beer?

Wrotham August Fest looks great, shame we'll be on tour in Scotland or we might have come down for the craic.

Cheers

Paul

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: wrotham-arms-jen
Date: 27 Apr 09 - 08:26 AM

thanks rafflesbear for the plug...i was planning on starting a new thread about the august bank holiday music fest at the wrotham arms....as soon as i thought of a name for it!!! any ideas?

see you friday rafflesbear, norcsalordie, banjiman and the rest of blind summat!...can't wait.

jen

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 27 Apr 09 - 04:36 PM

I'm sure that in other circumstances they would love to stay late and jam with you Paul, but at midday on Saturday they are on stage at Rochester Sweeps Festival.

Maybe you'd fancy calling in at Rochester on your way back on Sunday they are at the Two Brewers in the High Street at 12:30

How about - "Wrotham Arms Festival - August BH Weekend" for a thread title Jen?

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: wrotham-arms-jen
Date: 28 Apr 09 - 03:35 AM

its not the thread title i am working on, its the festival title
j

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Banjiman
Date: 28 Apr 09 - 03:43 AM

Wrotham Roots?

(I guess it only works if you know how to pronounce "Wrotham".)

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,dillie the oast ouse opper
Date: 28 Apr 09 - 04:55 AM

what you man like 'roffam' like what some people say in fannit?

tee hee :0)

Can't wait to get along to the wrotham during the festival, once you've dragged me out of the neptune sing... :0) x

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Banjiman
Date: 28 Apr 09 - 05:01 AM

Jen insists it's pronounced Root'em ..... but, what do I know, I live in Yorkshire!

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 28 Apr 09 - 02:46 PM

Whoops! - how about

"The Broadstairs Folk Encore"

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 Apr 09 - 09:51 PM

"The other Broadstairs festival"

"Narrowstairs"

"Ramstairs and Broadgate festival"

"Saint Peter don't you call me"

"On Route"

"Beery Walls"

"Jenghis Can and the Fizzywroths"

"Root and Jeni's What's On"

"Folkadelic"

"Armless and Legless"

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 30 Apr 09 - 04:20 PM

How about - "Broadstairs Folk Week.............End"

I'll be there tomorrow night for Norcsalordie, Jen and good luck with Blind Summat on Saturday - I look forward to meeting up again

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 02 May 09 - 11:42 AM

"Wrotham Reprise"

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: wrotham-arms-jen
Date: 05 May 09 - 04:03 AM

Thanks for the suggestions everyone, I have decided to call it WROTHAM ROOTS (thanks banjiman). I'll start another thread soon, so lets get this one back on the track of Broadstairs Folk Week, which is nothing to do with WROTHAM ROOTS ... apart from being in Broadstairs ... in August ... and with Folk music ...

So who is coming to Broadstairs Folk Week? I have seen the line-up at The Wrotham Arms and it is terrific - including - The Sally Ironmonger Trio, Tamlin, Happy Trails, Rundogrun, The Phatt B'stards, The Okee Dokee Band, The Hartley Singers, etc, etc and dont forget our daily Woodshed Sessions led by the great Bob Kenward.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,Mark Addison
Date: 05 May 09 - 05:22 AM

Hi Jen...Byards Leap aren't at the Folk Week this year, but Phil and I from the band will be down as punters for the weekend. Looking forward to relaxing at the Wrotham for a change.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: wrotham-arms-jen
Date: 05 May 09 - 06:00 AM

look forward to seeing you mark...would be great to see you at our woodshed sessions - that way we can still hear you play. this'll be my last folk week in the wrotham arms, so i'm planning on being a relaxed punter in 2010!
jen

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 05 May 09 - 02:41 PM

you can keep mentioning your August weekend here as well Jen - you're bang on subject - Broadstairs 2009

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: DebC
Date: 05 May 09 - 05:18 PM

Maybe totally off the mark here...but I just thought I'd ask:

I am performing at Broadstairs on the Tuesday and Wednesday. Would there be any kind souls that could possibly provide me with a lift on the Tuesday morning? Before I go into logistics and geography, let's see if I have any takers. I will assist with the petrol bill of course and there would be a free CD in as well.

My issue is that I only have accommodation for the Tuesday and Wednesday evening and then I am away on the Thursday. If anyone can help out

Thanks in advance,
Debra Cowan